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Europe is ready for war!
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Europe is ready for war!

from Elizabeth Lane TV

May 27, 2026 | 01:12:42 | News & Politics

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In this episode, Pascal and I dive deep into the political, economic, and cultural crises reshaping the West. We discuss Europe’s self-destructive policies, the growing instability inside the European Union, mass migration, energy dependence, censorship, and the widening disconnect between political elites and ordinary citizens. We also explore Trump’s unpredictable and polarizing political strategy, the future of American power, rising global tensions, and the increasingly dangerous geopolitical situation involving Europe, NATO, Russia, and Ukraine. Beyond headlines, we examine the deeper forces driving global instability: media manipulation, ideological extremism, economic decline, the erosion of national identity, declining trust in institutions, the weaponization of information, and the psychological climate of fear and confusion affecting millions of people across the West. We talk about the collapse of long-term political thinking, the influence of corporate and financial interests on governments, and the possibility that many Western nations are entering a period of irreversible transformation. This conversation goes far beyond surface-level politics. It’s an honest, unfiltered discussion about power, propaganda, leadership, civilizational decline, freedom of speech, technological control, and the uncertain future of Europe and the world. Whether you agree or disagree, this episode challenges mainstream narratives and asks difficult questions about where modern society is heading. Pascal's channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@UCHdLVKdAeG6zAeZMGZh91bg
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Transcript

00:00:00 - 00:00:32 | Speaker 1:

Hello everyone and welcome back to my show. I have a very interesting show today. Pascal Lottis is back in my show. He's been a great guest. I love having him because his mind is just so fascinating. He's a professor at Kyoto University and he also has a YouTube channel, which I highly recommend. Go and subscribe to his channel. It's called Neutrality Studies and I'm going to put a link down below. He talks about politics, economy and other social issues as I understand. So thank you so much for coming, Pascal. I appreciate it.

00:00:33 - 00:00:34 | Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me again, Elizabeth.

00:00:35 - 00:00:53 | Speaker 1:

Absolutely. So we thought this war would end. Last time we had this discussion, I believe that we were talking about Zelensky being in a position when he just had to be done with this. And look where we are now. It's almost like, I just can't believe, Europe is gearing up for war.

00:00:54 - 00:03:45 | Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, they are. And they are gearing up in, like, very, very obvious terms. I mean, they talk about it, especially what I hear from my German colleagues who are also engulfed in, like, German, you know, watched mass media over there. And not just mass media, but who are exposed to other parts of society. It seems that they're gearing up. I mean, the scariest thing that I've been told recently and could verify is that the evangelical churches of Germany, at least of one of the of the German states, the Bundesländer, actually sent out, didn't send out, but started preparing a memo of, you know, how the churches have to go forward with their, not the pastoral services, but the, you know, the kind of mental health, mental care services that they offer to their flock, to hire more people who can offer these kind of services for the parents and wives and so on of the young men who will go and have to die in the East. You know, that they are preparing the kind of, you know, the support network for when the war comes, right? And it's like a 26-page paper written in very boring kind of, you know, admin speak of, oh, what's the problem with the challenge and, you know, how can we address it and how can the evangelical and eukomenical, so, you know, church going beyond the individual churches, right? How can we work together in order to kind of provide that service that we know will be necessary and that we know will be a big crisis, so let's start preparing. So, you know, you see, it's not, and that's an internal document, right, that just leaked, it didn't leak, I mean, they actually put it on their webpage, so it's not like a big secret or something, but it's more one of these kind of administrative things that several parts of society now do, including the evangelical churches. so and then I talked to a propaganda researcher Jonas Turgel just last week the video will come out on my channel pretty soon who like for the last couple of years looked at how German mass media works and who wrote two books one of them on cognitive warfare in which he like just just went through NATO's publications in which they openly talk about how important it is to not only focus cognitive warfare on enemy population, you know, when you try to directly dishearten and everything, the enemy population, and tell them, look, resistance is futile anyhow, so why don't you give up and overthrow your government? But you do the same at home, and they write about that, how important it is to do cognitive warfare against your own population, right?

00:03:45 - 00:04:10 | Speaker 1:

This is a very American thing, too. This is a very American thing. The CIA, NSA, FBI, these people are more focused on pretty much brainwashing americans then they care to focus on other people right because it all starts at home if your home is not ready and if they are protesting and opposing you you can't do shit so that's why it's so important for them to propagandize and lie to their own people

00:04:10 - 00:05:44 | Speaker 2:

so they can go on board yeah and you know on a different podcast on lena petrova's podcast i made a very a mistake that a lot of people told me about i said that you know already mr goebbels back after the Second World War at the Nuremberg trials talked about this, that's of course wrong. It was Mr. Goebbels, Mr. Goebbels actually killed himself and his family, his entire family, they suicided. But it was Mr. Göring, who actually at the Nuremberg trials, you know, when he was in interrogation and in talks with his council and so on, he was making the point, look, no population wants to go to war, nobody, neither in dictatorships nor in democracies. But it's the job of the leaders to make sure that everything is prepared and that they can use fear and anxiety of people, fear. from being attacked to use that offensively and then go and do what's important for the nation. This has been a study playbook and we know about it. The Nazis knew about it, the Americans know about it, the Germans today know about it and of course they're not the Nazi regime anymore, but the thing is the underlying psychology of war has never changed and we are in that psychology of war now, certainly in Europe and I mean Ukraine is the visible outcome of what four years of that kind of war wouldn't do to a nation, but the psychological aspects of it were actually very similar. Because if you remember, the Ukrainians were dead set against war with Russia. 70% wanted a better relationship. That's why they chose Mr. Zelensky, because he

00:05:44 - 00:06:49 | Speaker 1:

promised that. Yes, yes. Absolutely. You are absolutely correct. And I don't know if you watched Tucker's interview with Zelensky, the West Secretary, right? Pretty much everything, what we were saying and we were demonized for, she confirmed. She worked for years for Zelensky. And she says, no, that's exactly how it is. Zelensky does force people to the front lines. We elected him because he wanted peace. He hates his own people. He's absolutely happy with corruption. He wants more money. And above that, he mentioned garbles. I want garbles propaganda. I want that. Like, go, let's list propagandize people. That's what she said. Look at a Jew. calling for Nazi propaganda and propagandists to be recreated in Ukraine. I mean, you would go crazy if you heard it on TV somewhere in the movie. You would be like, what is wrong with these screenwriters? Like, what is wrong with these people? Like, a Jewish Ukrainian is calling for Nazi propaganda in Ukraine?

00:06:50 - 00:08:39 | Speaker 2:

You know, in a very sad way, current times just confirm once again humans are humans it doesn't matter what kind of religious creed you adhere to because we have a Jewish Ukrainian man calling for you know Nazi methodology in order to implement a war with Russia and we of course have the Israelis implementing a genocide slash holocaust against a largely defenseless civilian population in their immediate neighborhood in West Asia so it's like you know the the warfare and the belligerency of certain parts of the european establishment and i count the americans as part of that because at the end of the day that's the part of europe that emigrated so i genocided the north american continent and then uh put up their own settler colonial uh enterprise of which we are now have like 250 years right um and an irreversible one i mean that's that's just gone i actually looked up the the numbers there are still nine million um people of um uh native american blood in the in the in the north in the united states but i was trying to find somebody to talk to and if you go to the home pages of the apaches and the and the navajos and so on i mean it just shows these you know what these people are are what they write about on their home pages that look like they were made in the 1990s they write about water we extended water supply to another 50 uh houses it's i mean i i still um it's what happened to the to the indigenous population in the in the united states is absolutely it's insane and you know the the europeans they did that they did that and they're still going about this kind of affair which is um yeah i i honestly i don't know what to do but it seems that um we are caught in that in that kind of mouse wheel of belligerency i don't know how to get out of it but

00:08:39 - 00:10:25 | Speaker 1:

seems to me like that i know how to get out of it it's called revolution and people are so dumped down and so feminized you know in the worst way possible i yeah like it's crazy that they can't fight you know it's just they can they can't fight and look at what's happening in the u.s right now we have a full-blown nazi dictatorship here we do we really do look at the data centers i don't know know anything about these data centers they are bringing in just in utah where i am right now we have a protest planned um on the 23rd they are bringing in this ginormous data center huge one facility pascal uses more energy than entire state of utah jesus yes and it also causes co2 emissions more than entire state of utah people are so dumbed down some of them are protesting some of them will go they have no ability to fight and this kevin o'leary's of the world this canadian foreign foreign investor who lives in florida coming in and saying like well i'm sorry you don't like it but it's just happening anyway that's what she said he says you know i wish understood that we are at war with China and it's a cold war on ai and we gotta beat them and we don't care dude do you hear us like did you hear us what we said we prefer to live a healthy life we want to breathe healthy healthy air we want to actually live up to 60. like that's that that that should be not even negotiable right we're not talking about 150 how about 60. americans every age right now is 75. no but that's i mean that's that's the

00:10:25 - 00:13:21 | Speaker 2:

important thing to realize you know these people who do the wars uh the the all of these foreign wars and go and kill people and bomb them in tehran and you know drop the equivalent of several hiroshima type atomic weapons on gaza the people who do this and implement this and it's not just you know it's not just netanyahu and trump it's the it's the entire chain right the entire production chain of death they used to call them the merchants of death but at this point we should We'll call them the factories of death or the factory CEOs of death that then do that. The same people, they also hate their own people. They hate you too. They hate people in Utah. And if you need any kind of statistical proof for that, just look up the number of people incarcerated worldwide. And then you will find that the top spot in, you know, just absolute numbers of absolutely incarcerated people is held by the United States with roughly something between 1.8 to 2.2 million people in prison, incarcerated. Number two, only to China. China is somewhere around 1.5, 1.6. But you must also realize that China is about four times, three to four times the population of the United States per capita. per capita the the incarceration rate of the united states is insane so you put these you put a lot of your own people and and you incarcerate them right and you you you criminalize them and you make sure that you know a good part of the black population and so on never gets out of like certain problems then you you you start bombing people in the in the um in the caribbean kill about 200 fishermen or whatnot accusing them of whatever drug problem that you at home are obviously using in order to keep a good part of the population under the poverty line where they belong, right? So the level of problems is insane. And then these people will tell you, oh, but there's nothing that we can do, you know, because most advanced countries on earth. And then you go to China and look at what China does. And China has near universal health care. China has, you know, lifted 800 million people out of poverty and into the middle class in the last 30 years. massive housing I was just in Shanghai it was it was fantastic it's it's a city that runs actually very similar to the city of Tokyo like it just runs it works and people people are there and have energy and have uh they they they have electric cars not not a single like a motorcycle all of them electric they're so silent they scare me because they actually drive on the on the on the side on the sidewalk and that's a little bit scary but um but you know you see how a how a functioning society and a rising society actually works and then you look at both Europe and the United States and you start feeling very sorry for the people there because you can just see how things are getting undone and are being deconstructed. The American dream has been long

00:13:21 - 00:13:29 | Speaker 2:

dead. It's certainly by now a nightmare for tens of millions of people and it's just sad to watch.

00:13:29 - 00:14:59 | Speaker 1:

It's very sad to watch. I would push back slightly on China. I don't think that I want to sacrifice what Chinese people sacrifice to be where they are. But the argument I would make is I don't have to sacrifice it. And the United States not so long ago was an example of it. You don't have to sacrifice and become this weird, you know, communist slash social capitalist state as China is, because China is not full communist. And like, you know, have your bank account deducted because you crossed in the wrong way. So that is a no go for me. But again, we don't have to be that China is what what is appropriate to China. China was always like that. You know, China was mentally always in a way there. it's just how it was as i understand chinese community i'm not claiming to be an expert but not every nation is made equal and not everything every tool is made for every nation right like everybody's different like go ahead and implement how georgians like to live in france i guarantee you it's not going to work right so that's the thing it's very different and we don't have to be china but what we can do is what chinese government and this is where i agree with you did for their own people they recognize that okay so chinese people are in a certain way they cannot function if we don't have what we have in china right now as a model right so the first way to track like fast track our success into something is what we are doing right right now

00:15:00 - 00:16:38 | Speaker 2:

China. You have to put them in a closed box. You have to implement certain things. And at some point we'll get out of the poverty. And they did. And absolutely they did. Another big thing about China is they understand generational growth really well. What do I mean by that? Grandpa and grandma will sacrifice their own life for future generation. So they will work in a sweatshop So that their grandkid doesn't have to. And that is still very much alive in China. And their understanding, and this is something that politicians actually said multiple times, we have to take the generational burden, so that young generation gets to be more free. Okay, so they live by that. In America, it's the opposite. it. It's like in America, your 17 year old kid, a father will come and say, well, go, go get some work. If you want to buy a new phone, go get some work. Oh, you want me to fund your education? Why should I fund your education? And this is like somebody who actually has, you know, money to fund it. Right. But there's their mindset, like burden the young people so that you can have your 80 year old vacation somewhere nice. And again, not everyone is like that in the US, but that's the culture. And I said the similar things in Europe. I might be wrong about Europe, but I see it, you know, more similarities with America than China. But that's the thing. Chinese government figured out what works with their people, even though we don't like it and these like restrictions on their freedom and so on. It's there. It worked for them. Now we have to figure out what will work for us. And the similar restrictions that China has is not going to pass in the United States.

00:16:38 - 00:18:13 | Speaker 1:

it's just not going to happen no no and you know when i when i when i said that i didn't mean to say that the united states should try to become china not at all it's more like when we also do you know in in um the development sector and so on uh with within within academia you know what we do is we do comparative studies right and we look at how how certain states do things and it is well understood that those things cannot be implemented one um one-on-one in another place but it's to say like look a this is possible b um let's look at the factors that made certain uh certain outcomes successful and then you cannot you cannot repeat that right you cannot obviously because the united states is not china right there's also something called um social scientists call it very fancy they use the term uh path dependence what they mean with that is just that there's history you know so china of 2026 in the united states of 2026 obviously have a couple of 100 years that are quite different, right? And you cannot just undo that and just say, like, okay, now let's implement the Chinese model. No, you can't, because things just work differently to the point where we already came, right? But you can look at what made certain outcomes possible and that you could get there, right? So the argument that, oh, this could never work, you know, gun violence, you know, gun violence is just in the DNA of the United States because you cannot eliminate it, right? It's impossible. It's just like you cannot change a tsunami or a typhoon coming in. It's just natural to occur. No, no, look at Canada. Look at Switzerland. I mean, they have similar gun ownership rights and so on, and they don't have these shootings.

00:18:13 - 00:18:20 | Speaker 2:

Actually, I would never let go of guns in the United States. And you don't have to. Yes, yes, absolutely. You're right. We don't have to.

00:18:21 - 00:18:32 | Speaker 1:

You don't have to. What needs to be realized is that it's not a necessity to have the gun violence, right? So what needs to be done is to do these studies and figure out how to change that, right?

00:18:32 - 00:20:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. So gun violence comes from here in the culture. That's it. And there's also some kind of false flags on these lone shooters. Like, don't buy into that shit. It's absolutely. So I don't want to divert away from this subject, but there was something like Petcon. I don't know if you've heard of Petcon operations when FBI ran like this fake domestic terrorist groups when they actually created the gun violence. And then, yeah, so it's it's the U.S. is an anomaly. This is what most Europeans don't understand. What's happening here is you can't write a script of a movie. The United States is a different type of monster in the world. Like, this is the country that its leadership has no problem killing its own people. It had no problem presenting President Kennedy with a plan to shut down the U.S. civilian plane so that they can blame, real story, so that they can blame Cuba for it. This is the government full of globalists literally running the country who do not think of themselves as Americans. they think of themselves as world citizens and as long as America is a milk cow and right now it is because most money is here they will do whatever it takes they want to poison their citizens they will it's not a problem something goes wrong territorially in America they can always move to Switzerland that's fine for them this is their mentality this is why so many data centers are being built here and not in china they keep scaring us that oh china's china's gonna go ahead and like develop ai better than ours we're gonna lose this work complete nonsense you know where china is compared to us not even we we are

00:20:16 - 00:22:10 | Speaker 1:

90 ahead of china when it gets to ai ai specifically but you know the ai the ai thing is interesting Because there's a good chance here that there's another problem going on, which is probably an overestimation or a misestimation of what the midterm future is going to bring. I mean, the whole data center craziness and why they do that and then build that there is built upon the idea that you need much, much more capacity to run these large LLMs and that all of them will be run in the cloud. and that that will that that's the future right bigger bigger bigger bigger but already like a year ago like some of these um i think it was entropic that that came out and said that um there's there's an end to the curve you know it's it doesn't it doesn't keep growing exponentially so even if you build more data centers you're going to run into into into certain limitations of just the nature of the the nature of the of this technology and there is a second strain developing right now and actually the chinese are following that one more than than the first one that's like on device on device and you know efficient llm processing with an with an end to it instead of ever larger data centers which then also centrally process um all of the data um so i do think the what we are currently seeing with when it comes to ai to me looks a little bit like what we saw in the 1990s when it came to the internet right and you had all of these crazy ideas about what the future would be and you had large bubbles forming and then they burst and actually in japan the dotcom bubble was i mean it was one major factor that then really kind of wrecked stuff in the 1990s for them but the um there is the chance that here we just also are talking about economical misperceptions or or projections about the future well yeah that's

00:22:10 - 00:24:06 | Speaker 2:

what we said in the in the show too that it is a bubble the the money will be made mostly in a support technology and whoever gets it first right and that's it but the ai is not profitable i think it's more about control because here's the thing uh they keep running into the same issue and they are telling us population you know this overwhelming population of people we've never been here it's too much we gotta decrease population i mean they tried everything this is real this is not a conspiracy theory when the the king himself comes out and says well we have a population problem and we have to deal with it and when all these professor professors or all these people that have like god knows what agenda tell you they want to depopulate they mean it they mean it so the reason for it is a well a lot of things but one major reason is that they're losing control they really are look at what's happening in in here with media revolution in america europe has not seen it yet but this is a media revolution in america you know what's happening right now in the u.s you know who thomas messi is thomas your senator yeah yeah congressman thomas messi is fought by the deep state right now deep state is the the apex and such people are spending millions of dollars to get thomas messi out of congress and you know what happened all these independent influencers went to kentucky such a thing never happened in american history this is all the independent journalists going to support messi because there's a media revolution in america people realize that if we don't stand up right now we are doomed so all these media members that realize that they don't have to rely on big channels for money and food and they can make their own little money and it's enough that's it that's it you know and in a sense this is what

00:24:06 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 1:

makes me hopeful i mean you you see that there is also what's going on with tucker carlson and candy so and so on who are breaking with the establishment who are breaking with the israel lobby and you see the proliferation of channels like yours that that you just have more people who then take over the responsibility and the burden to actually, you know, go after these kind of issues. And the good thing is that even if they take one or two down, if you have thousands of such channels and thousands of, you know, small channels and so on, then you have an actual kind of defense against it. It's like what the Iranians did with the Americans in this war, right? Their whole strategy was built around mosaic defense. and meaning like okay we have a lot of we are not we it's not one single chain like you decapitate you kill the the ayatollah and we are all paralyzed and nobody can move anymore no because we're not

00:25:00 - 00:26:14 | Speaker 2:

not a pyramid. We're many, many, many, many, many little pyramids. And we all follow the same strategy because we've communicated that. It was beautiful. I mean, it was smart and beautifully done. It's extremely smart and efficient. You know, the thing is they just had to be able to absorb the shocks, but they were willing to do that. They build their defense facilities, these underground bunkers to absorb the shocks. It's like, okay, we know they will hit us they will so let's build something that will not break when they when they hit us and then we strike back until they stop and by now they stopped so in a in a sense if you do that on a on a societal level through like you know mosaic journalism then um there might be a chance for this um we'll see but you see also how how scared this this establishment is and what they did to charlie kirk um you know it's very dangerous it's very dangerous for tucker Carlson it's dangerous for Candace Owens because the basic strategy of these people just like with JFK is of course to go after the big fish. Absolutely. You shoot the big fish and then you you know you subdued you don't need to subduo everybody just just a few key people and I mean Tucker Carlson is living very dangerously these days I believe. Oh Tucker is under serious danger

00:26:14 - 00:26:29 | Speaker 3:

now I don't know if you know Trump and it was not just Trump but they introduced the new law that they are going to monitor this speech. They're going to monitor this speech. And if they don't like your speech, you will be a domestic terrorist and you will be arrested.

00:26:30 - 00:26:31 | Speaker 1:

Scary.

00:26:31 - 00:26:38 | Speaker 3:

Real thing, real thing in America. So everyone keeps saying that according to what they put out, Tucker Carlson qualifies.

00:26:41 - 00:27:42 | Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, the one thing, not the one thing. I mean, there's a lot of good things about the United States, but one of the best things that I admire is that you actually have it in your constitution, the freedom of speech. The US Constitution holds so much value in the entire system. It's like the holy cow of the United States, right? And even nobody can officially say like, no, we don't have a good constitution you need to change that thing right and that's a that's that helps it to to the extent that you can you can litigate this um so i would hope that even more than europe i have more hope for the united states that freedom of speech remains but of course you know it hangs on a threat also our channels here on youtube you know the the sad fact of the matter just is that our channels are nothing but a checkbox on a spreadsheet somewhere in a google on a google server if If somebody removes the checkbox, we're gone. All of us.

00:27:43 - 00:27:59 | Speaker 3:

That's why I have this idea to actually build an independent network. And we're working on it. We would love to have you, too. I'll reach out to you when it's done. But, yeah, you're absolutely right. And, yeah, I feel for Tucker now I got into it because I interviewed Candice. I don't know if you saw my interview.

00:27:59 - 00:28:02 | Speaker 2:

I saw it. Fantastic show. Well done.

00:28:02 - 00:28:24 | Speaker 3:

Thank you so much. Yeah. So you should see the wave of attacks that came on me right after. And I was like, I don't know how Candice lives with this, but she does. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. From very well-known people to some obsequious trolls, like everyone, literally everyone. It's crazy. But this is the reality.

00:28:24 - 00:28:30 | Speaker 1:

They have insanely thick skin. I mean, their thing is thicker than...

00:28:30 - 00:28:45 | Speaker 2:

I mean, I don't know. I like the metaphor, but just thick skin, it just doesn't impact them. although some of these people of course try to be extremely mean but I guess that's just what it is and only the ones with with the thickest skin can make it up there because the others will break

00:28:45 - 00:29:11 | Speaker 3:

earlier absolutely they are demonic and Pascal let's move to Hormuz uh most of the time my when I do these episodes I want to kind of update my listeners where we are and I always ask my guests to portray like a little general picture of where we are now with Hormuz with Europe what what is europe's role in all of this um what is russia's role in all of this projections like

00:29:11 - 00:32:09 | Speaker 2:

what's going to happen with hormuz and so on it's just my monday right and we just had donald trump come back from china and you could clearly see how he you know this whole china affair going there was quite important to him obviously right and he the original idea was of course that he would go to china a month earlier in april with you know a big iran victory in his pocket like The regime toppled Iran either already under US control or in huge disarray, but basically a victory for the United States, right? The regime gone and eliminated and now Iran on its path to host the next big US airbase and whatnot and help in this ring of fire that the US is putting up around China, encircling China and that of course backfired big time. The U.S. actually showed that the Iranians are able Thank you. to defend themselves the way that we just said, that they forced the United States to stop, not because the U.S. wants to stop but because they were running out of missiles. The U.S. is running out of things to shoot at Iran and at some point they had to kind of come to an agreement that the Iranians keep saying and I talked to Professor Muhammad Marandi on this, they said like after 10 days, they had the first signals from the US through Pakistan that they want ceasefire and the Iranians ignored them for another 30 days. So after 40 days, they said the US, the pleas for ceasefire were getting harder. And of course, this is the Iranian side portraying this. So we take it with a big, big grain of salt. But it is undoubtedly clear, and there's no doubt, because Donald Trump actually said so, that after 40 days, they accepted the ceasefire based upon the 10-point proposal by the Iranians. They wholeheartedly just said like okay fine these 10 points of yours even though they contain things like you know US bases need to be completely withdrawn and whatnot, we accept that as a basis for the ceasefire and then we negotiate and then of course they said yes to that but that was only to stop the firing right and both sides more or less stopped although the Israelis of course keep firing at lebanon and whatnot and and break this kind of ceasefire agreement because they're part and parcel of it iran says israel needs to stop as well um our allies are are part and parcel of everything so but it was but like it got it got the job done in terms that the united states doesn't fire at iran anymore and iran doesn't really doesn't fire at at u.s bases and so on and anymore in the in the region so that's there but ever since then we've we've been in a phony uh phony ceasefire basically where both sides still do um war like implement warlike measures on the u.s side of course a blockade uh an extended blockade that they say like no iranian ships go in

00:32:09 - 00:35:06 | Speaker 2:

and out of the strait and the iranians say like okay fine then we do a proximity blockade and um Only ships that we like and we green like can go through the Strait of Hormuz and they need to pay us money for that. So basically the Iranians assert their control of the Strait of Hormuz, which in fact is against what the international law of the sea says. But we don't need to get into that because also the blockade from the American side is illegal and what the Americans have been doing on their side has been illegal. Everybody reinterprets what they want in terms of what they can do. But we see that the Iranians are, again, able to do this. So the strategy of Scott Besant was, of course, oh, we're going to put even more hurt on the Iranians and the economy is going to collapse and then regime change. Yeah, it's not happening. The Iran is still able to control the actual trade. And they let, actually, it's not the case that the trade is completely blocked. I mean, they let in and out a couple of ships. And then the Americans on their side, then they go and do some piracy to a couple of those that went through. But we are at a situation where the capacity of what was coming through the Strait of Hormuz is nothing compared to what it was before. And the impact, of course, of all the oil and LNG infrastructure in West Asia, in the Gulf states and Iran, has been has been really it hasn't been eradicated completely but it has been crippled to a large extent and this is going to have downstream effects um we are we are already feeling it now but this is going to last or even increase over the next uh one to two years um even if even if the everything um even if the straight is like opened again completely and we are at the point right now where we're waiting for the decision from the united states if they actually gonna basically give in and say like okay fine we're going to do this as a with a political settlement which means political settlement on Iranian terms or if they want to escalate again militarily and even the Iranians are waiting for that and there's two ways either you restart the bombing because by now they managed to refuel a couple of these you know stack the missile silos again although there's not a lot there's really not that much left anymore people like people said about about between 30 to 40 percent of the entire capacity of offensive like weaponry that can be shot um from you know small and medium um short and medium range missiles have been shot i have no way of proving uh of knowing whether that is true but a lot of it's kind of very evident you know like yeah and the united states just doesn't produce enough it just cannot physically not produce enough a year in order to keep up the pace that they had before for more than than that a month or two right and um so the other option then so that one option is like bomb a little bit

00:35:06 - 00:35:10 | Speaker 2:

more and just hope just hope that this time you know the iranians are then going to say like okay

00:35:10 - 00:35:16 | Speaker 1:

we're going to give up we're going to do a japan 1945 please uh we're we're your future allies in

00:35:16 - 00:35:30 | Speaker 2:

waiting um that's one the other one the the other one is that people are still talking about some form of ground invasion because apparently there's still about 50 000 personnel there which seems even more suicidal because the iranians literally told me we're waiting for that

00:35:31 - 00:36:42 | Speaker 3:

iranian foreign minister came out and said okay you want to ground invasion come on come at us bro like let's go we are waiting and they are waiting because much like you you said they very meticulously and strategically designed their defense machine because they realized what was going on they I realized that Israel is a deep state, fake, fakely created deep state. What do you want to call it? It's not even a country. It's like a fake entity. OK, so it but it controls the United States. It's funny. Here's how I say. Tell me what you think. I feel like the real control is in the United States. It's not even it's not even debatable. OK, but what do I mean by real control? All these elite members, the banking industry and the corporate world is the one who created Israel. So this entity controls Israel while Israel lobbies back the Congress. So it's almost like Israel is the middleman, the bankrolling Congress through AIPAC so that they can do whatever they want. It's almost like a three headed dragon that constantly goes around, you know.

00:36:42 - 00:38:23 | Speaker 2:

it's not it's not it's not it's not a bad metaphor but you know to me the more I think or the more the more I look at it the more it seems that the question you know who controls who is it is it Israel that controls the US or US that controls Israel and and uses Israel as a launching pad for for its Middle East or West Asian escapades that question seems the more I look at it seems to be something like the question of what control who controls your body your brain or your heart? And you're like, yeah, obviously they work in tandem together to produce the outcomes, right? So it's like, sometimes we think that these countries, they're separate of each other, right? But when we look at the political processes, obviously the body politic of Israel and the United States, and including also NATO and Europe and so on, they are intertwined, right? And they influence each other. So it's like one kind of body that works in with with different parts that then at the end produces that insane violence which is why I actually think it's not too bad to think of what's going on in world politics currently as a civilizational uh contest where you have certain parts that are integrated in the body like uh Israel Europe United States then you have you have China you have you have Russia which are which are largely uh you know self-contained kind of bodies of course they have they also work with others. And when you look at Iran, you could also take Hispola and others and try to figure out how this interaction works. But it's definitely the extent of the body politic that actually then matters for the outcome is more contained than what it is with the West. Maybe that's also why we call it the West, or Richard Sacqua calls it the political West. And I think that's the way to

00:38:23 - 00:38:40 | Speaker 3:

look at it. Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. So yeah, well, unfortunately, I don't know what trump will do next i mean i i'm pretty sure you have not seen it or you would be laughing at it he just put out a picture with him and an alien i i kid you not it's real go check it out well

00:38:40 - 00:38:45 | Speaker 2:

i mean i i have i have one request to the alien if you if you take him don't bring him back

00:38:47 - 00:39:48 | Speaker 3:

i don't know i don't know yeah i mean he's not i pascal i don't understand i You know what I think? I think he doesn't understand the situation fully. I don't think he grasped the full situation and where he's going with this and where he's dragging the country with this. I think in his world, get this, he still has time to play golf, call random people, tweet around, do this. Each president that actually runs the country has time like that. For hours and hours, a day or week or whatever, who has time like that? he monitors and watches shows he watches mark levin he watches fox news i don't watch fox news i don't have time for it the the politics moves so fast that if i'm not on every what's going on here what's the update fox news is a propaganda channel but even if you thought it was a great channel like you're the president of the united states you're the first source of the information

00:39:48 - 00:39:59 | Speaker 2:

you have time to watch fox news yeah yeah but you see that's the that's the that's the thing about real power real power comes with the ability to watch

00:40:00 - 00:40:09 | Speaker 1:

Fox News and do what you want. Because with a stroke of a pen on a piece of paper, you can kill thousands or tens of thousands. You can just do it. And somebody will bring you the paper and the pen.

00:40:10 - 00:41:19 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's it. But you're not in control. Right now, Trump is not in control. If he was, he wanted to stop this war. He genuinely wanted it. Again, most people are like, no, he was always this devil. No, he actually was not. His education level doesn't allow him to grasp the situation. so he relies on every single advisor he has they are running the country just like when biden was senile he was not in charge trump is not senile he's just stupid that's the two different like absolutely different personalities but again trump is run by people who advise him period this is this is the brilliant part about having trump someone like trump in power he comes out and always stupidly tells you what happened he came out and says well who would have thought that they would close Hormuz what everybody like as in literally everybody exactly and except except for him you know why because that option was never presented to him this is a man victim of his own stupidity and people who feed the information to him period I don't know I don't know like we could

00:41:19 - 00:43:01 | Speaker 1:

also you know the thing is the system works like that right the system engulfs the leaders in in envelopes and so on and some of them want that some of them don't i don't know if look after 250 years my guess is just that the u.s system is is at this point good enough to deal with any president you can throw at it you throw at it a a dementia patient it deals with it uh and and and it keeps running in the same way in the same tracks as it was before you you throw at it and kind of an anti-foreign war um outsider it deals with it it engulfs them it envelops um that one and then and then changes track you throw an anti-cold war president at it the system gets rid of him with a bullet right i mean there's there's there's something that the system can do and i'm not saying that there's like you know five people in a in a back room who go like who puppeteer everything it is how these different parts including the including the banks the mic uh including the different branches, including the mafia and so on, how they interlock and then produce outcomes. And that's the system. So in a sense, it's like, you know, you're on the Titanic. You're headed towards the goddamn iceberg and you discuss what to do and your solution then is let's get a new captain. Put him there, but before he... No, no, no, no. Now we discuss again. Maybe we need another captain again and you just change captains, right? So it seems states are incredible, like sociological machines or monsters or however you want to call them. But once they're set on a track, it's extremely hard to maneuver because even if he tried to use the steering wheel, he would figure out probably that it's not connected to the rudder in the back.

00:43:02 - 00:44:38 | Speaker 2:

Well, we are not a direct representative democracy, right? we have an electoral college which is a scam you know all this so we don't even pick our own leaders we we vote for the president think about what our system actually looks like we vote for the president who is just a temporary employee uh back in the day i think it was truman during truman where military completely signed off the uh major decision making parts away from the president Etchison manipulated Truman to do so. And it happened. And since then, other than Kennedy, no one actually challenged the system. President is a need-to-know base, okay? President is on need-to-know basis. That's a reality in the United States. That's why no one cares. They will outweigh Pascal any president they want. And real devil, you are right, real devil lives in the system, period. So now they realize they can't kill Trump, but they can manipulate him. How is it possible that men who was best friends with Tucker Carlson, invited him everywhere, listened to him, spoke like him, advocated the same things, all of a sudden thinks Tucker is a terrorist? What? In like just less than a year? Well, that's what indoctrination and misinformation looks like. He's listening to all the wrong people. Every single one of them is telling him that you've got to get rid of Tulsi Gabbard, you've got to get rid of Tucker, you've got to get rid of Marjorie Taylor Greene. These people are crazy. You have no idea. He's manipulated.

00:44:39 - 00:46:38 | Speaker 1:

That's how politics works. That's the sad part of the political process. I mean, we keep thinking of politics is voting. No, it's not politics. It's like the power play between the different centers that have certain abilities of doing things. And that includes then people like Massey, of course, on the one hand, that has a different vision. on and then it includes uh lindsey graham on on the other side and if you if you're like a a horse whisperer and you've got the the the ear of the horse then well it's it's much easier to get somewhere where you want um and you know i'm very disillusioned also with like um electoral democracy in in general because if you think about it what you do is you just you just elect your for four years your current dictator right and then guy can implement anything and yes in theory you have you You have Congress and so on, but you also know that these places are in control by the money much more than by the people who actually elect them. Because you need the people to elect, but you need the money to get the people, right? And then you've got the whole problem with the Israel lobby, but lobbyism, lobbying in general. So it's a very, very flawed version of democracy. It's not the version where they ask you, what do you want, and then you pick a policy as people on the ground. it's where they ask so which face would you like to be under for the next four years and there's this beautiful simpson episode right where in the end you have the choice between two aliens because they imitated to be like a bill clinton and and and bush and the system okay i i have to choose one of the two and then two years later everybody's enslaved and and get humor gets the whip and he's And he's like, oh, and Mark says, like, don't look at me. I voted for Krog. The Simpsons are so brutal in how precisely they're able to dissect some of the major problems of society.

00:46:39 - 00:47:55 | Speaker 2:

With predictions, too. Oh, yeah, predictions. There's some weird predictions. I never watched Simpsons. I know what's going on because every single one of us has at least seen one episode, right? So, but yeah, they are weird with predictions. I almost think we are in a simulation and somebody knows out there, not me, not you, but somebody knows where we're going. It's obvious. I mean, you know, somebody knows. For example, I had, I don't know if you watched the, you saw Candice's interview with me, but Candice said Charlie knew that he was going to die. He just knew, you know, sometimes it's weird and bizarre, but people have this weird ability to see the future. Sometimes they do. And, yeah, Charlie knew, like, you know, I'm going to die young, but I'm going to do what I'm here for to do, period. And I think, honestly, I think it's a spiritual battle. I know Europe is completely out of it, maybe because they are so ungodly that they don't feel it anymore. But in the U.S., you can see it. It's a real spiritual battle between good and demons. Like, they are real demons. These people, they are real demons. Like, what kind of people mock God? okay let's say you don't believe in it why would you mock it when you are the number one guy of

00:47:55 - 00:48:11 | Speaker 1:

the superpower why would you mock it you know um you know i i i try to avoid the this this interpretation because as soon as we as we typify something as evil and demonic it it it absolves

00:48:11 - 00:48:48 | Speaker 2:

us from trying to understand it right i used to approach it like you because i wanted real explanation with real facts i didn't want to hear that these people are demonic i wanted to hear these people are just bad people they are the ones who steal money and so on because bad people exist right it's just nature but i've i'm actually open to both options now i'm open to options of they don't have to be a separate thing pascal you can have a very logical explanation to why people are doing this that it's about money and power and all that and you have a spiritual aspect as well and they don't have to be separate they can be tight they can they can they can be tight

00:48:48 - 00:49:19 | Speaker 1:

but we must also realize that the the um differentiating between good and evil is a typical uh european thing to do right it's a typical way in which our um you know thousands of years of of religious practice and so on then wire our brains that we do this binary this dialectic between between what's what's godly and what's what's of the world of the demons and that the danger that comes with it is that it then taints our interpretation of reality. I mean, the thing is, they...

00:49:19 - 00:50:17 | Speaker 2:

Can I challenge you on that? Because it's interesting. Does it alter our understanding of reality of what it really is? Okay, let's think about that. Why are people in the US, let's take Lindsey Graham. Why is Lindsey Graham doing things? What's up with Lindsey Graham? What is his real purpose here? he has the money that's not the problem he has a ton of money so he doesn't have any kids he has all the gay lovers he ever wanted right i'm just saying i don't know if he's gay or not but seems to me he is so he has all the tools to be happy but he's not happy and somehow he's driven to do bad things like kill people It's real. He's on record saying, we're going to kill a lot of people, it's going to be great. It almost brings him some kind of satisfaction when he sees that he's above other people, like Iranians, and he's killing the kids, right? What is that other than demonic?

00:50:17 - 00:51:09 | Speaker 1:

Well, you can call that a demonic or a very evil manifestation of something that I would say if we go into the individual psychological reasons, we can maybe, you know, probably, most likely, we can find an explanation in narcissism, in psychopathy, you know, lust for power and so on. And maybe, you know, I mean, the guy probably sees himself in messianic terms and says like, no, no, no, look, I am here to extinguish evil and evil is on the other side and I need to extinguish that. And if I extinguish evil, I thereby do good. So I am actually more or less like Jesus, just coming down from the cross and taking picking up the sword in order to to, you know, implement the the the the realm of God.

00:51:09 - 00:51:16 | Speaker 2:

so within there and who did that pascal who else did that any any any any monster in history they

00:51:16 - 00:51:58 | Speaker 1:

all do that so that's why you know the one of the best proverbs to me is like the path to hell is um is what's the word in english the the path to hell is good intentions They all believe they do good, and in the process of it, they become and undo monstrous deeds. The thing is, if you successfully do them, if you successfully implement that, you will be remembered as a great man and replace them. You're going to be remembered as a founding father and not as a genocide, right? You're going to be remembered as, you know, the great people who...

00:51:58 - 00:52:02 | Speaker 2:

I don't know about that, because Hitler was not remembered that way, even though he successfully...

00:52:02 - 00:52:08 | Speaker 1:

No, that's the thing. The only war crime that gets you hung by the neck is losing a war.

00:52:09 - 00:52:10 | Speaker 2:

How about Stalin?

00:52:11 - 00:52:15 | Speaker 1:

How do the Americans remember Roosevelt, Truman?

00:52:15 - 00:52:26 | Speaker 2:

I guess, well, Truman or Roosevelt, because those are two different, right? I can't tell you how I remember Truman. I remember Truman as a stupid man. he's the man

00:52:26 - 00:52:37 | Speaker 1:

who signed the piece of paper that eradicated both Hiroshima and Nagasaki he was a stupid man and these people never were persecuted for any of that

00:52:37 - 00:53:47 | Speaker 2:

it doesn't mean they're heroes you know who's remembered as a hero I'm going to push back none of these people are remembered as heroes but you know who is? the man who lost, Kennedy John Kennedy is a hero in America he's a hero and most beloved president by every american i meet including mine he's my favorite president but he lost he got a bullet in his head he lost everything he worked for went to toilet like if you know got flushed in the toilet but here's the thing back to the why you should not and this is my advice because you're so bright and so you know you you make analysis that most people can't even fathom right so this is why i think you should bring spirituality in your analysis and religion because here's the thing everything you just named whether it's Hitler thinking that he's going to clean up the Germany or Lindsey Graham I don't think Lindsey Graham thinks anything good but you know Hitler was better than Lindsey Graham because Hitler had at least good intentions like you said Lindsey Graham has selfish intentions I swear I will stand by that that Hitler is a better man than Lindsey Graham I will stand by that so I make a point out of not trying to compare

00:53:47 - 00:53:57 | Speaker 1:

them like is you know the hitler the hitler analogy always always lands you in a in a in a bad place so i would i would love to just leave it leave it out but but we we can't i mean hitler is kind of

00:53:57 - 00:54:49 | Speaker 2:

faked into this yeah i'm not afraid of where i land with people that's the thing about me pascal like i understand that kilo is a terrible terrible person but the only reason i'll say that he was better than lindsey graham is because lindsey graham betrayed his country sold his country out and then on air told americans israel is more important than you now hitler got rid of drugs in germany got rid of prostitution got rid of a lot of bad shit and told germans i'm gonna build an empire for you now was that a real thing that he actually actually did no did he built the army for Germany. Heck yeah, he did. He did. He at least had good intentions, like paved itself with good intentions. Well, Lindsey Graham is a different kind of animal. Lindsey

00:54:49 - 00:56:41 | Speaker 1:

Graham is a traitor. That's why... Yeah. I swore to myself I will never say a good word about Hitler because he also got rid of six million Jews and Romans and so on. But the I mean, the levels of. crimes are insane but but you are absolutely uh correct in the sense that the crimes of a lindsey graham and others in the united states are also absolutely insane they kill over a longer distance and with other weapons uh just the number that you know uh it's now estimated in in in land in the lancet journal from from last december that you know just between the 19 1972 and 2022 u.s and european sanctions unilateral sanctions which are illegal under under under the un killed something to the to the extent of roughly 38 million people um you know over the over a period of 50 years like half a half a million people die every year out of these from these sanctions and you know these kind of crimes are of course comparable to the crimes of the nazi regime in terms of scale of what they did um there's other things but the reason why i tried to escape i i i tried to escape hitler but it doesn't succeed because like whenever people then use hitler they usually also on the other side they use it in order to then implement even more violence it's it's insane like the europeans at the moment they're they're gearing up to for a war with russia and they've been fighting a war with russia through ukraine for the last four years with the idea that hitler now sits in the kremlin so you know the and i kid you not the germans talk in those in those terms it's like no we are this time the goodies and hitler sits over there and we're gonna fight hitler and the guy hitler somewhere deep down in hell must be laughing it's like ha ha ha in my name they're gonna go to the east again and fight the russians again ha ha the late success of the first long shadow isn't leaving i agree i agree and it's just crazy

00:56:41 - 00:56:54 | Speaker 2:

to me that the audacity to these german psychos to first of all you have to be on your knees asking for forgiveness like you have to be on your knees and if you're not gonna ask for forgiveness

00:56:54 - 00:58:06 | Speaker 1:

at least shut up at least shut up you know that there was a there was kind of a viral clip recently where because it was the 9th of may right the the the victory day for for uh over the the the european theater of the second world war and the there was a german journalist in that was asking one of the spokespeople of the German government, who was saying like, yeah, when the Americans liberated us, and then he's like, well, what about the Soviet Union? And it was the Soviet Union that liberated most parts of Europe, including, of course, Berlin. And then the other guy was saying like, well, you know, it's well understood who liberated what. And then he's like, so could you please, could you please just enumerate the countries that liberated Germany? And then the guy over there just just sat there and just smiled. It's like they refuse to even acknowledge historically that it was the Soviet Union that liberated the Germans from the Nazis. And, you know, this is a kind interpretation because it separates the Germans from the Nazis, which they also did very successfully over the last eight years. Right. It was the Germans themselves that were victims of Nazism. And then finally they were liberated from that. That also absolves you from any kind of guilt.

00:58:07 - 00:58:20 | Speaker 2:

I love this, Pascal. I love how they think that we should think that Germans were victims of Nazis and they also got liberated. They were such victims. They didn't kill anybody. But Soviets were all guilty. All guilty.

00:58:20 - 00:58:24 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Russians, today's Russians are still guilty for all of them.

00:58:24 - 00:58:26 | Speaker 2:

We're guilty of all Soviet Union. Yeah.

00:58:26 - 00:58:41 | Speaker 1:

And that's how horrible this mass psychosis is that then drives entire nations into wars. But of course, that's exactly what some parts of society would love to see happening. And that's what some of these politicians in Washington and Brussels are working on.

00:58:41 - 00:59:39 | Speaker 2:

Oh, my gosh. OK, before I let you go, I want to talk to you about this possible war with Europe and Russia. OK, so situation is really hard right now. Even in England, like UK is like acting absolutely nuts. What do you think they're going to get out of this? Like they want the war with Russians. You know, you have this like bipolar situation in England where they want to hurt Russians. However, whatever they can do to hurt Russians, they will do. Whether it's war, whether it's just getting Europeans to fight the war, whatever it is, right? So do you think that they will ever have the guts to actually attack Russia if that happens? Do you think that Russia is stupid enough to repeat World War II, where the United States was happy and fat on the other side, fueling money into both parties to fight each other, and then we ended up with Marshall Plan and the enslavement of Europe by the United States? do you think russia is dead down to do it again or do you think they're gonna nuke this psychotic

00:59:39 - 01:00:07 | Speaker 1:

weirdos well the the uh i don't have premonition i can foresee but the the sad thing is that by now people like mr karaganov in in russia i mean they used to be uh outsiders that called for nuclear strikes and for change to the nuclear doctrine of russia because the nuclear doctrine still says in russia we will own

01:00:00 - 01:01:47 | Speaker 2:

strike second only if we are hit we will actually fire back and Mr Garaganov and others are now saying like no we need to change that you know there's only one nuclear power that has a has a nuclear first strike doctrine there's two one officially the other one unofficially the official one is the United States the unofficial one is of course Israel but they have first strike doctrines where they say like under certain circumstances we will we will do it first and the russians have a second strike it's just like the chinese right and they are now talking about changing that and mr putin is coming under pressure because he is of course a moderate and he doesn't want that and he's he's been on the record for the last 50 10 years like saying that a nuclear war cannot be one that must never be fought right an absolute dovish thing to say and of course the europeans don't register that and so on but the um the within russia and my discussions with Russian colleagues, especially Stanislav Krapivnik, tell me that the Russians are not changing their opinions. They go like, you know, for the longest time when the Europeans said we want war with Russia, they kind of said like, ah, it's that, you know, they just said that in the Ukraine context. They're just mad and whatnot and lunatics and so on. But four years of war, they changed that. It's like, okay, maybe they mean it. They're still saying that now, even as they are losing Ukraine, maybe they mean it. And maybe we should take them seriously. And And if they mean it, then, well, we should gear up to win. And that's what they are now working on. So we are now within the process of a self-fulfilling prophecy where both sides then start saying the other one will attack. Therefore, we must prepare to go to war. And once we're prepared, we'll go to war. And then it won't even matter who fires the first shot because, you know, once the first shot is fired, all you do is, all this does is to, on both sides, confirm the expectation.

01:01:48 - 01:01:49 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely.

01:01:49 - 01:02:45 | Speaker 2:

You see a chocolate cookie, it looks delicious. You take it, you bite into it, it is delicious. And that's what's going to go on. It's not going to disturb anyone's cognitive framework of what the world is about. And then they will go into war. Because warfare is, of course, the art of mobilizing the masses against each other. It's difficult to mobilize masses against each other. Because, again, they don't want war. But once everybody is in a place where you see the cookie and then you get the cookie, well then you know you have you have actually fulfillment and then and then and then that's when when the when the real tragedy and when the real horribleness and slaughter will start it's going to be different than when the war between uh when 2022 happened right february that was a surprise at least for a lot of people and i think in russia and in and in europe it was a surprise maybe not for everybody but for a large part of the population but the next one the big one with europe is going to be different it's going to be the cookie moment when you just when you didn't

01:02:45 - 01:03:36 | Speaker 1:

just ah ah right right now now now it's happening i agree i think europe is very uh sure that they are going to win this war against russia i think they are going to be very surprised i think they have this mentally deranged hatred of russians because russians just simply won't let go of self-interest of russia which is exactly what every country should have they they think that Russia is this wild, wild west that somehow doesn't want to get on board with global, you know, WHOs and, you know, World Economic Forum and these global organizations that the elites of the world get to run. And then Kevin O'Leary's of the world get to run. They come back and tell us, you don't have a say in your data center. Well, Russia said, no, sorry, no.

01:03:36 - 01:03:50 | Speaker 2:

That's the thing I don't understand. I mean, Russia was and still is to a very good degree integrated into the same structures. I mean, the WHO is a good example, right? Russia was on track also with COVID and so on, developed their own vaccines and whatnot.

01:03:51 - 01:03:53 | Speaker 1:

Slightly on track. Slightly on track.

01:03:53 - 01:04:19 | Speaker 2:

Slightly on track. So it's like what I don't understand, if we take the view that, you know, these elite circles, they coordinate among each other for their own good. It's like, why do the Russian elite circles, which try to integrate into the Western elite circles, because it was insanely profitable for them as well. Why were they outcast and Chinese elite circles? Why do we not see a large, like global, like elite integration across the borders? There it breaks down and I don't quite understand why.

01:04:20 - 01:05:00 | Speaker 1:

I think I can give you a partial answer to that. So without like going into a long story, there was this professor slash advisor, political advisor in England that I knew. uh incredible man very very smart and he uh attended the notorious Bilderberg meeting okay he attended because of a Russian billionaire so Russian billionaire uh who's uh I don't know if you know him Mordechov Severstol okay huge uh still company so Mordechov was invited to Bilderberg And the whole point of inviting Morda Shah

01:05:00 - 01:06:38 | Speaker 2:

was to get into the Russian markets and have Russians do what the world elites want them to do, which is join us, become the part of the gang. But for that, you have to give up the sovereignty. You have to give up the wealth of your nation. We control your nation. You can control it with us. I mean, we'll open the doors for you. It can be what we are, like a group of elites, but you have to open Russia up for us. So meaning, Pascal, you have to dissect your nation wealth and feed us with it, right? So Mordechov very nicely listened to them and said, no, I'm not going to give you my country's wealth so that you can control what happens to Russian people. So he gets up and leaves. And my friend, who's now passed away, weirdly from a very weird disease, like sudden pneumonia. So he called him up and he said, listen, Alexei, if you say no to these people, they will close all doors for you this is like the the door to the the world like what they are offering you will catapult you into one of the top people in the world you can't say this they will close all doors for you he's like i don't give an f let them do it this is why they they don't like russia because russians have a different mentality pascal they have a different they don't like to be slaves this is why soviet union didn't work with russians it never works for not russians not georgians look at what happened in georgia who would have sought this tiny three million country would have withstand the revolution and not allow the the what was it seven different agencies operating on the ground could not conduct a revolution right i mean that

01:06:38 - 01:07:31 | Speaker 1:

that what you what you just presented would be an answer if it if it starts breaking down on the on the cultural and individual psychological level right that people work and network then differently across the actual, let's call it, civilizational divide, that then the integration doesn't work anymore. That would explain it, yeah. Exactly. Most moderate, most Western-oriented wanted Russia to be part of NATO. It's like, you know, you couldn't, again, the weird thing, the really strange thing about the U.S. empire is that, as a Georgian friend of mine once said, because he said it about Georgia, but it's true about other places as well, the Americans don't accept yes as an answer. they just they just don't take it it's it's yes and even much much more and now you jump higher over over the stick little dog and if you don't then well you're obviously an enemy of freedom

01:07:31 - 01:08:01 | Speaker 2:

yes well and well thank you yeah go on go on you when you wanted to say something yeah i wanted to tell you to um you know leave us with some wise words here what what's next and what what should we watch out for really and is there anything that europeans specifically americans have a different battle right now we are engulfed in a whole different battle than than europe right now what europeans can do who are listening right now to better the situation the only thing you can do

01:08:01 - 01:08:56 | Speaker 1:

is what i what i told actually a japanese uh um recently uh we we somebody i didn't know just talked a little bit and and he said like yeah well you know when if things go really bad then I will have to pick up a weapon and go and fight the war, right? And then I told him, no, no, no. If somebody asks you to pick up a gun and shoot somebody else, just say no. Just say no. Don't go. Just refuse, say no, and leave it to them. And all you have to do is to have the guts to take the consequences. If they put you in prison, you've got to... Well, that's what it is. Refuse the militarism. And if somebody, again, if somebody tells you to pick up a gun and shoot somebody else, you say no. Let them go. let lindsey graham go and pick up a gun and go and and try to shoot iranians okay because i know the iranians know how to deal with that so just say no just personal refusal to to to accept the

01:08:56 - 01:09:15 | Speaker 2:

dictum of the lunatics i completely agree with you and real quick can you tell the audience this story because i loved it how you told it you do lectures right real quick real quick story and um the hatred of russians like you had a men get up and oh yeah so i was i was in i was in

01:09:15 - 01:10:57 | Speaker 1:

switzerland in february um and i gave a couple of of public like lectures or just just talks and in one of them i was actually talking about neutrality you know and why it is important for switzerland to stop sanctioning other countries because sanctions are are are one form of warfare and in order to get back to a proper neutrality we actually need to stop the sanctioning business and so on and I was just talking about that I wasn't even talking about Russia but at some point after about ten minutes a guy got got mad and said like what is that stop sanctioning should we stop sanction Russia the Russians are the ones who are ruining and wrecking the planet or at least Europe and Ukraine and you want us to be to be friends with with those monsters it's like look because actually the point of neutrality is to remain friends with everybody, right? you remain you you even the ones that you don't like very much you maintain a working relationship and i was trying to explain that and the guy got up and said like this bs i'm not going to listen to this to this russian putin bs and and i don't want that it's like oh but come on don't you want to be friends with russians i mean if they stopped everything wouldn't you want to be friends with russians just to to appeal to him say like on the on a human basis and he looked at me and said like no i hate the russians i hate them i want to fight them it's like wow wow if that's if that's your if that's your inner inner framework then well you're you're gone my friend um there's there's no way back if if actually the destruction of the other one is what you wish for there's only there's only a way out if if if you perceive the other one as somebody who who also needs something and you You interact on a human level, but if it is out of pure spite and hatred, and luckily it was one guy who did that. And there were other people.

01:10:58 - 01:11:01 | Speaker 2:

How many, Pascal? Out of how many? Don't tell me it was five and one.

01:11:02 - 01:11:52 | Speaker 1:

No, no, it was, we were, I would, 45, 50 people in the room, one got out, and then there was a Russian guy there as well, who actually says, like, no, you're misunderstanding Russia. Russia is a bad country that suppresses its people. I mean, part from the Russian diaspora that is kind of anti-government, let's put it that way. he's certainly not anti-russian but anti-government and you know with these people you can have you can have a discussion of course and there are legitimate grievances no doubt no no government and no country is is is purely good or bad right and and and and the the the current government in russia certainly absolutely has its problems that are legitimate to talk about and that you can discuss whereas the hatred of the guy that stormed out that it's not discussable anymore It's beyond what you can grasp with an intelligible debate.

01:11:53 - 01:12:03 | Speaker 2:

I absolutely agree with you. And now, one more time, is there any other platforms that people can find you? So your YouTube will be down here below, but any other platforms where they can follow and study from you?

01:12:04 - 01:12:41 | Speaker 1:

So I have neutrality studies in English, the YouTube channel. I have the same YouTube channel also in Russian, Chinese, Japanese in a translated version. I have a Substack, pascallottas.substack.com, and I always struggle with that one, you know, because the Z in my name is actually silent, so it's pascallottas, but if you write it like that, then you don't find a Substack, so whatever. But on Substack and on YouTube, and I have a homepage where I gather all of my, all of the videos, and you can subscribe to an RSS feed in the language you like. That's neutralitystudies.com.

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