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Today we're talking about a very interesting story and one that remains unsolved, spoiler alert, but this happened back in 1959 in Russia where 10 hikers decided to go up into the Ural Mountains

in January. Bad idea boys, don't do it. Russia in January, Ural Mountains, nothing lives in Ural

mountains in Russia and some very strange incidents happened when they went up there so this story is known in the news as Dyatlov's Pass okay guys I

gotta I gotta admit something okay so like Whitney is someone who allows the possibility of ETs and stuff like that most of the time right all the time all all the time. I'm like the skeptic here. Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm a, you know, I'm a political journalist. I do factual stuff. Like, I'm like, what are we, what are we talking about? ETs? Like, do, do aliens exist? Are they visiting us? Probably not. But this case is so weird to me that this is the first and probably the last time that I allow in my head the possibility of some other forces getting involved

in our business. Okay, let's start from the beginning and explain what happened.

I don't want to. All right, let's start. So it's actually a fascinating story, okay? And I grew up with this story because, you know, I'm from ex-Soviet countries, so everyone was shocked when this happened and, like, it became Russia's, I don't know, like, what is the biggest mystery in the U.S.? Like, Russia's Roosevelt or even worse. Yeah, because no one died in Roosevelt. A ton of people died in here. Spoiler alert! Alright, so a very brave, very smart guy, a student, a hiker, Igor Dyatlov, decides to do the impossible. I think he wanted to just make his mark in history and I don't think I actually know because he wrote about it. So he wrote that he wanted to leave his mark in Russian history or something like that. Oh no, he said he wanted to leave his mark on Russian map and he ended up leaving it on the map of the world instead of just Russia, right? So Igor Dyatlov was very young and this... 23 years old when he started. Yeah, 23. I would, you know, he did... honestly if I had been 23 going on this expedition I would be dead in a day, just saying, like 23 year old. But here's what we know about Igor Dyatlov. Okay, first of all he had a somewhat of a photographic memory okay so he was extremely smart he was extremely capable for a 23 year old and for a 53 year old too I would say you know most 53 year olds are not as capable as he was and he well back in the day you have to realize this is time where you know maps are we don't have like Google Maps or we don't have these all the gadgets that that tell us where to go and what to do. Yeah. So this is times where even maps are not that well made and accurate and so on. Especially of the mountains. Exactly, especially of the mountains and they didn't really have a map. So he kind of carved his own map and like he memorized it in his head and then he put it on the paper for the rest of them. And he got into this like hiking because of his brother. Like all these people covered these Dyatlov pass, especially western sources covered the Diaz Lopez and they miss out on so many details and we're not going to do that today. So he got into hiking because of his older brother. He used to go on, you know, hike with his brother and then he just caught the wind and, you know, the excitement and all that and he just never could give it up. So he puts this crew together and what's really important about this crew is that none of them are just like walk-ins. All of them are very experienced hikers. They know what they're doing and this is important because we are going to get to the point in the story when you realize why this is important so there were 10 hikers in total by the way it was supposed to be nine but then last minute the the financiers you can say of the expedition decide that one more was needed and this very important too so Zolotaryov which in Russia would be Zolotaryov

joined the crew a little bit later right before departure but let's let's you know talk about these guys and who they are and forgive me I have to read this because there are too many indeed I can barely remember my two brothers names so like I have to so Igor Dyatlov was the main one obviously charismatic smart young man 23 23 Zinaida Kolomogorova she was a she was a badass I have to say she was a female who got into this because she wanted to prove that not only guys could do it, that women could perform such hard stuff.

and, you know, go out there and conquer the Oral Mountains. So, yeah, so she decided that, you know, she wanted to go out there with the guys and prove that girls can do no less, right? Like, she was a badass. So she was also an incredible professional. There was another woman with them, Dubinina, Ludmila Dubinina. She was a very skilled navigator, another exceptional woman. Alexander Kolovatov was also a very good analytic in the group and then Slobodin was the most less athletic one Slobodin if I'm not mistaken he was also the youngest I'm not sure yeah I think he was also the youngest Doroshenko Doroshenko was another one Krivonoshenko also very skilled hiker so Nikolai Brioni or like I always mess up his name for some reason we call him Nikolai today okay? So, and of course the last one was Zalataryov who joined the group as the last person, but there was another one, a tenth hiker that never gets recognized and his name is Yuri Yudin because he actually ended up dropping out and we'll

discuss that too. So, the story goes they trek up or they begin their trek up into the Ural Mountains. I think it was they were supposed to return back through the whole trek and return back on February 15th. February 15th rolls around and nobody's coming back. 16th rolls

around. Nobody's coming back. No words from the guys. And this was very bad because first of all like we talked about it like Dyatlov was actually very. He was a very skilled hiker so he knew what he was doing. Yeah and responsible too like so they they had to hit these checkpoints right and they hit the first one, and all of a sudden, they're not coming back. So, no word from them at all.

So, they sent out the search parties, and what the search parties found was horrifying. Dun, dun, dun. Very scary, very scary. You want to start with the first thing they found? Sure. So, they did find, they found the tent. The tent was cut open from the inside. But that's not the weird part, was everything that was in it was not touched. so it's not like there was a struggle so it's it begs the question why did they cut open from the inside why wouldn't they just use the zipper now some could say the zipper was frozen but they clearly were using tents that were meant to be in the siberian yeah and of course there you know we

again we couldn't underline this more that these were skilled hikers they know how to unfreeze

right there was no no sign of struggle at all so they found the tent it was on the side of one of the mountains. All right, so when the searchers finally go out and to look for them, they found the tent first. It was cut open from the inside. There was no sign of struggle on the inside. All of their belongings were left untouched. They didn't grab anything and run. And then they noticed some footsteps. So they followed the footsteps naturally. And they found two of the hikers, unclothed, bizarre. So why would you take your clothes off in the middle of the, you know, winter in Siberian mountains, like Ural mountains in Russia. What? Yeah. And they checked them out. One of them had a bite mark out of his hand. So they speculate that maybe he got frostbite and he wanted to check, but why would you bite a chunk out of

your hand? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about this a little bit later. So let's go with like what they found first and then the theories can flood in and like, we'll talk about, I'll talk about all the theories and kind of debunk all of them because I think I actually know what happened. Sure. Except for what killed them. I don't know what killed them. Maybe. Right. Okay. They found

the two by a tree and the tree was missing some of the bottom branches. No, it was not missing, it was broken. Yes, it was broken branches on the bottom so they don't know if there was a struggle

to get up. Who knows? Maybe they were escaping something. Right. God knows what happened. Who

Who knows? And then they found three other people a couple days later, and those people, it was

bizarre, one of them had a crushed skull, cracked skull. Well, yeah, the skull was cracked, but it was not an injury that could kill him. So after these two, they find Dyatlov himself and two others with Dyatlov and I think he was slow body that had the the crack skull but it's weird because the injuries he had like how the doctors described was like it was not from one fall it was like constantly falling like if he was constantly falling right like which is weird like it was was like a repetitive injury that he like got up. fell, got up, fell. But the problem is that person cannot fall in exact same way every single time. You know what does that? Like the injury that is consistent is if you're actually banging your head against something, because then you can definitely get that injury or someone hitting you, right? But the problem is that none of them really show, like none of them had injuries. Signs of like struggle or anything. Yeah, like or cut skin or anything.

so no external injuries were found. Yeah, no external injuries were found. They did find burn marks on his arms and legs, right? Strange burn marks on the arms and legs. Doroshenko had

strange marks on arms and legs and... That resembled burns. Well, kind of, yes, and like their bodies, like the first two bodies, Doroshenko and Krivonoshenko, it was weird because they were like purple-ish weird, and also Krivonoshenko had like some type of white foam and or goo or something coming out of his mouth which is like okay whatever killed him right what does that have to do with the this goo or foam or whatever so that was

weird yeah and they also apparently looked like they were frozen in place

trying to get back to the tent so after they discovered Dyatlov in these three two others so three of them it's weird like how the whole thing went for months like there were no discoveries like no new bodies no nothing and of course family was going nuts back in Russia. They were like, well, what's what happened? They're still looking for four more. Yeah, for more. And finally, after months, they find the four bodies. But what they find was just, just shocking. So with this first two, you can still make some kind of excuses and explanations. Okay, maybe this like the only thing that doesn't fall, you know, within the story is the phone. Okay, maybe they just got, I can say like, okay, something happened they had to get out of the tent and they made fire and they were just you know warming up and they didn't realize that you you can't just warm up on fire outside like you're gonna die in you know urls um so anyway you can make excuses all of them died from hypothermia so that makes sense like they are not well dressed so they died from hypothermia but what doesn't make sense is the remaining four bodies so remaining four bodies were found and they are just i mean i still today cannot quite rip my head around this so their injuries are like as if one truck hit them yeah like it's their their ribs were just ribs were compressed from

the inside like broken broken on the inside right yeah and then one of them the woman i think was

Tobinina was missing a tongue.

She was missing a tongue.

Yeah, I mean, what's amazing is that, you know, I watched a lot of Russian investigations in Russian language that is not translated, and one of the experts said, like, well, it was not just missing, it was as if someone, like, pulled it out, like, the tongue out because of how the body, like, the autopsy said it was, like, ripped out. So, I'm like, like, what, you know, what's going on there? so anyway um and then their injuries were there's the skull was crashed injuries were so bad that it's almost like if a truck hits you like 150 miles an hour there's nothing left of you the only problem is that external injuries again were not present nothing so whatever killed them no

nothing right yeah whatever killed them they did have traces of radiation on their clothing

yes that's an interesting part but there's like a lot to discuss here okay so they find the first two bodies, you know, they said, okay, died from hypothermia. That's Toroshenko and Krivanashenko. And they finally find Dyatlov. Dyatlov is better dressed with the other two. And, you know, they are also dead from hypothermia, according to the official results. I mean, official investigation. And, um, but the other four have these weird injuries and they died from those injuries. They didn't die from hypothermia. There are many versions to what happened to the hikers and quite honestly, all of them are bullshit. And we will dive into all of them today. All right. So theory number one, and this is really sad. Like some people say, oh, they had a fight. They had a fight. First of all, bullshit. They didn't have a fight. These are, what people don't understand is when professionals like this get together, present feelings, all kinds of petty things are you know put on this side all right so when you have a fight things get messy we didn't see that first of all no one was punched in the face nobody had an injury like tent was perfectly set up nothing happened between the guys okay and one thing that people speculate on all but you know Zina Kolmogorova was in love with

Doroshenko and they were actually an item like couple before this and then in Zeno's writing you can see like she writes like it's just weird how I feel because we're not together but we are together and it's like just weird right but then people say that Dyatlov and Zeno got together afterwards so it's like two boys and one girl but again like could that explain why he wasn't wearing clothes but I guess not her no it cannot explain some weird gay thing going on no no definitely not definitely not so these are very like i said these are very responsible people and it's not that they are like dietlov and zina are not together right okay so um and she was also saying that you know there was not a problem for these two to actually do this expedition it was like like i said professional thing so exclude the fight out of it and then are some other theories like oh my gosh avalanche hit them and that's why like first of all nothing hit them when avalanche hits a tent geniuses 10 gets moved yeah that's the thing and things gets messed up none of this is present okay guys so uh okay avalanche hit them and they somehow cut the tent like it doesn't make sense all right so no avalanche is present i don't think it is uh there they found like the tent inside the snow but they could be explained with heavy winds like winds are always present in there. There was a Russian investigation, Russian team actually went over there and did the whole path and did an investigation. I highly recommend watching it because you will find out why the avalanche does not

make sense. The theory of the avalanche. Also if an avalanche went through they wouldn't be found the way that they were found. Exactly. Well they were saying that

maybe like before it went through like they ran or something like none of that makes sense. So and again like the tent was just too perfectly set up. and we'll talk about this too there was a theory of some type of infrasounds or something like that see this at first I was like maybe that makes sense but the problem is you know that doesn't explain the phone that doesn't claim the burns purple skin what about the injury is like broken reason okay they went crazy and did what like you know it was crazy is that foul play was excluded because no person can inflict such trauma to another person without any weapons. Exactly. And even if they did have weapons, like they said, like, no person... And no external injury. Yeah, it cannot be a hammer. Like, if I hit someone with a hammer, they are not gonna get such injuries. So, out of question, not the case. Well, then there was a speculation that military was involved. I don't agree. Well, here's the thing. I think military was involved, but not the way you think they were. Who found them? Well, the search team found them, the search team that was deployed to find them. But we'll get to that, okay? I don't think that they were the ones who found the bodies first either. So let's talk about the real stuff, okay? So why was the tent cut from the inside and all of that. First and foremost, the setup of the tent. Guys, you have to understand that tent was set up on the slope, okay? No experienced hiker would have set up their tent on the slope, let alone someone who's so good and so experienced in his job. Dyatlo would take just one look at that slope and he was like, nope, we're going back to the forest. So you have to understand, I'm no hiker, but I listened to many who are and who are really experienced hikers and the team who actually went out there and did the whole investigation themselves who were hikers and they said I would not set up a tent here. It was not a mistake. Dyatlov did not make this stupid mistake. They don't make stupid mistakes like that. So do you think it was moved? No, it was set up. Like tent was just set up there. I think the tent was set up meticulously by the military. I think military found them first. I think when they missed their first check mark and they didn't come back in time they deployed military check on them because first force back in Soviet Union that would have been deployed in in such conditions would be military so I think they were the first to find the hikers. Dyatlov had a choice all right so forest was right there not so far away it's like only one kilometer or something away so there was a speculation oh Dyatlov didn't want to

lose the altitude they gained? Really? Because here's how Dyatlov would have thought of all of this. He looks at the slope. He knows the winds are unbearable. He knows that the tent will not stand in this wind. So he knows that, okay, so we are under serious danger if we set up there. So I'd bet I'd rather lose the altitude and set up in...

heaven in the forest, then up there when we sow like 90%, there's a chance that we are going to lose the tent and our lives. So I really doubt that Dyatlov would make such an idiotic decision to stay on this slope. No other hiker would. So why do we assume as a genius of a hiker made that mistake when other hikers who actually did the expedition was like, no way. And what's amazing about this Russian team, and I hope we can get the footage, Russian team of hikers actually recreated this path and they went up there in much nicer weather and they tried to set up a tent. And once they did, when it got darker, the tent was like, it was at the brink of getting destroyed by the winds. There was no way, they had to leave the tent. There was no way that they could stay in the tent and actually survive, all right? So Dyatlov knew that he was not stupid. So I don't think that that tent was ever set up there. I think that what we saw was a setup. Like I said, avalanche theory doesn't work. The fight theory doesn't work. Some type of sonics and whatever winds don't work because if, yeah, it messes with human mind. Yes. But if it did mess up with that mind, then how do you explain the injuries? What happened to the injuries? Like a, I don't know, Coca-Cola truck hit them in the Ural mountains. it's stupid. So none of this makes sense. But what does make sense is something happened to these guys. Something really weird killed them. When they went through their belongings, all right, they found some weird stuff. No one talks about the fact that a military flask was found on the scene. Like what military flask? Like, you know, they didn't have any. And if you want assurance that they didn't have any it came from Yuri Yudin so remember this person that actually had to leave the expedition so they were 10 of them Yuri Yudin had like some health problems so he detached from the group and yeah he was sick and he went home but he knew all the belongings because they would go through it together so he knew exactly what was going on on the hike and he said that this doesn't make sense we didn't have any alcohol and this military flask was found with alcohol in it so they were not even allowed to bring alcohol in this expedition that was a big thing right like they you're you didn't was like well you know i'm kind of a medic of the group and i was not allowed to bring in russian it's called spirit spirit so i was not allowed to bring any alcohol so i'm pretty sure that this was not from the crew so who had it well that's another interesting thing also one of the bodies from the four really really damaged

bodies that we found in the ravine they had a camera so when they found that the four bodies that was by the way and an interesting thing that they were missing for additional few months, like a couple months or so. They found these four bodies and Zolotaryov, the guy who was attached to the group, the last, had a camera. And he was like, of course he had a camera. They documented all the entire, like they were on an expedition, they documented the entire path. So of course he had a camera. The problem is it was not his camera. So when Yuri Yudin looked at the military flask and then he was like, well, yeah, we had like a few cameras, but that's not ours and I would have known about it that's not the camera he had right so so it looks like a stage thing to me and this is what everyone is missing like here's what I think happened all right I think that boys got lost which they did because they diverted from the weather exactly because of the weather and once they realized that they got lost they tried to get back on the path when it's very important to say in these areas there are uh local tribes like mansi tribes another theory was like maybe mansi tribes like got them and again like not humanly possible to what happened to them so and mansi tribes are very like nice people they they're not you know hostile power they're very nice and you know they live their quiet lives without interacting with the society they have their own language by the way in mansi language it's very important many people get this wrong they call it like a mountain of death. It's not mountain of death. First of all, it's a dead mountain. The name of the mountain, right? Yeah, the name of the mountain. So, Otorten Mountain, the name of the mountain. Many people out there get it wrong. Is there a mountain of death? No, it's a dead mountain. And also, the area in local language means do not go there. Do not go there, yeah. Maybe take an advice in the world. Red flag. Red flag. Right. So what happens, I think, is. that when they get lost, they set up the camp and knowing so much about, you know, Dyatlov himself, again, he would not make a mistake to set up a camp on this slope. So I think he set up in the forest. I think he set it up the camp in the forest and then something really bad happened to them. And when they missed their checkpoint and when they did not send the letter back, as he promised Yuryudin when Yuryudin left, he said on the 15th we'll come back but you'll receive a letter they didn't what happened is soviets call whatever you want soviet government but they were really good with their you know checkpoints and uh you know checking on people and so on so i think that they sent the the military first before they ever sent the uh the arm uh sorry before they ever sent the search party i think military went out first and there's

one more thing. Here's what people speculate on, that it was a KGB experiment, whatever, because Zalataryov worked for NKVD and, you know, he had KGB ties. Well, this is absolutely normal, people. You have to understand that, you know, in Soviet times, again, speaking from the experience of my family, like, in Soviet times, KGB was everywhere, okay? You know that they were on usual flights, like if you were going to Italy or something, like, but they were unimportant KGB members. They were like low operatives and they were just very careful because that's how it was. Like secret police was everywhere. And I think that when such an expedition happens, of course, they're going to assign someone because first of all, safety. Second of all, who knows? Maybe they are meeting up with some secret American spies. Who knows? You never knew. Right. So I think that Zolotor Yov, and this is just a speculation, my opinion. I think that one thing is that Dyatlov was sending the letters that hey this is where we are this is where we are but I think that Zolotorio was placed in the group to alert the military and KGB hey this is where we are this is where we are and I think Zolotorio was doing his own little things like sending his own little letters to the military yeah and I think again speculation no evidence of it but it's just my personal opinion either way even if he wasn't or was it doesn't matter because once they missed the checkpoint and they didn't send the letter they were supposed to, I think military was deployed to find them. And I think they found them. And I think they found them in bizarre circumstances. And they were as shocked as we are. So I think what they did is this delay into the search party and sending the search party. You know when the search party was sent? When parents started acting up, when the 15th mark was missed, here's what got missed in many Western sources. The investigation is actually dated before 15th. So how the heck did military know something happened before 15th? Official investigation started before and that like we actually have a document of it, right? So one would say like, well, what if they had, you know, suspicion that something happened to the group way before they got back or something? Yeah, could be the case but highly unlikely that the investigation would start earlier than you know than the deadline of them coming back right so i think what happened is um either zalatorio was sending letters separately or the military knew that something was up and they sent the guys to figure out what happened and once they found these things they were like okay so what do we do here because the parents want to see what happened they are not going to shut up and i think they just staged the scene I think they put up the camp because it's really weird in the winds in the gusty winds that this like slope has there's no way that the

camp was standing up straight when they found it up to like almost like a week after right right like it wouldn't survive it wouldn't survive it would be like all like broken up all this nicely like put things like what are we even talking about like I think they set up the tent and they drop the bodies in different places and there is no coincidence I said that like pay attention to how the bodies were found the the most weird ones which is like the last four bodies with all these injuries were never found until like two months later but they were not far away though right so how do you know sense it makes no sense how do you not find bodies there is like literally walkable distance from the rest of them I think the bodies were never there they hold on to these four bodies I think for figuring out what the heck happened to them and when the parents were not taking this lightly obviously they shouldn't it I think only then they decided right like there's no explanations to this there's nothing we can do so maybe we'll just place rest of the bodies down there in the ravine right so you think it was military no I don't I think some i think russians didn't lie about the final conclusion i think they lied about a lot of things well not russian soviets lied about a lot of things like every other government would um when they like put down all this like whatever they did right but but the thing is i think they were so confused and the final analysis say that like final investigation results say that they They died from an overwhelming unknown source. Unknown source. Overwhelming unknown. They might as well say ETs or some kind of spiritual beings or something. But I don't think they lied about that. I think they meant it. They couldn't figure it out. And some overwhelming source got them, obviously, that they could not overcome. So that's final conclusion.

Yeah, I don't know. i i am i don't think that it's ets personally i don't think it's of extraterrestrial because it doesn't make any sense interdimensional things like that's certainly not yeti okay right like it's not a big food any interdimensional beings or extraterrestrials they don't want to be caught why would they do this in such a peculiar way right well who's i mean we had in the u.s ourselves

like you know cow modulation cases and so on why would they do that i could be but i think i think they were i think it could be government involved okay if government is involved you know what they do they shoot you in the head they bury you in a no man's grave maybe they want to plant it on

something unknown maybe they want people to think unknown maybe they stumbled upon a base or a secret base or something and they needed to make it look strange again they would just make you disappear no because then they wanted people to never go in that area again right but no but no

no because they did the opposite like people don't get scared of this shit now they're doing expeditions there no like if maybe it backfired on them that's the thing like they actually made it more famous so that that would make no sense to me i think that they genuinely like ran into something that shocked them so much that they were like if we hide the bodies what are we hiding them from like you know like what happened to them right it's obviously not a fight it's obviously not caused by another human so i think honestly what they wanted to do they tried to figure it out themselves they couldn't because it's so weird like everything around this case is very weird you know yeah so people say there are some like you know rumors that okay so what if tent got disrupted by an animal and they had to cut it because they were all scared and run out like it makes no sense they also say that the reason they were in their underwear is because you know they died from hypothermia and then other people grab their clothes and again bullshit because here's the thing you have to really read the investigation like you can't just rely on youtubers to tell you the truth because how their clothes were cut clothes were cut up from each other or something like that they were like oh they were wearing the the friends clothes like no first of all the cuts were made so meticulously and so clean it's almost like Like a military autopsy person cut the clothes not to destroy any evidence. Like no person that's freezing to death has time to nicely cut the clothes. No, they rip it off. That's what they do. Nothing was ripped. So clothes were really neatly cut. Yeah.

The tongue thing is weird. Yeah. It almost like to me, my mind immediately. What about eyes? Yeah, my mind goes to, that's a symbol. Like you saw nothing, you say nothing. Right. that's what it to me that's the first thing i think that's a good point yeah i never thought of yeah they could like i think somebody i think you're on to something when you say they were found by somebody maybe military and they saw what happened and they were like you saw nothing

don't say anything yeah but she was still alive when the tongue was ripped out of her how did they know it's the autopsy that's what they say how do they know that though it's very medical thing. For example, when the blood circulation, I think it was not Slobodin, it was one of the four that was found in the ravine, their blood was still pumping when they got crushed. They know that. That's a medical thing. It's really easy to know. So he was face down and they knew that when they got hit by whatever, they were all still alive. They were not dead from hypothermia or anything. What else they know, and this kind of reinforces my theory, is that the bodies of Slobodin, either Slobodin or the other four, they were dead when they were moved. So dead bodies don't move. So if aliens killed them, then it would be just found exactly in the position. But one of them, the blood circulation in the body and the heart had already stopped when one of the bodies were put face down, flipped over, flipped over. So, who flipped them over? Right. Again, I think that all these theories of something scared them. They were, you know, they were feeling cold or tent got destroyed. All of this is bullshit. I think that military was there. How do you explain the flying? The foam was weird, too. Yeah, foam was just bizarre. Exactly. Or the burns. Burns are weird, too. Like, some say, well, because they were, you know, going into hypothermia, they couldn't feel, you know, their hands. Yeah, it could be possible. But again, I don't think that the fire that was made was made by Doroshenko and Krivonoshenko at all, actually. You know what I think? I think that when military found them and they were setting it up, they got cold. And they made that fire and they sat there. And I don't think that it's Krivonoshenko's and Doroshenko's footprints. I think it's military footprints. And they were wearing probably some kind of protective gear. And it leaves like no boot marks, right? Like protective gear doesn't leave the boot mark. It's protected like white, white, what do you call it? White four. like hazmat suits but yeah so exactly so i think when military found them the reason that footprints were weird it's not that it was left by like socks or anything because you have you know a sock print no they assumed that it's a sock print because it's not a boot print right yeah well who else wears a suit that is like leaves no print yeah in the lab you know and when military found them i think when they realized that something bad happened they had to suit up what if they are contagious what if they are radioactive which they were right they had right yeah so everything to me sounds like military found them first they couldn't figure shit out of anything and they were like okay well we'll just place the bodies we'll set up the tent and we'll pretend so you don't believe that anybody has any idea

what happened you don't believe there's not one i think that i think that something extraterrestrial not extraterrestrial i think that something unknown force hit them i really do believe that it's some type of either, like call it demons, whatever you want. Like, I mean, it's, it's a mountain where Muncie would go and like sacrifice like some, yeah, like some type of something because locals would sacrifice some like goats and stuff to some kind of weird, like deities, where I don't know what hit them. What I know is military state did. I will, you know how like Candace Owens put the entire, uh, like journalistic reputation on Macron being, um, on the line. yeah on the line i put my entire reputation on the fact that military set this up they didn't kill them but they set it up i don't know if they killed them let's let's put this right but they set it up right like the the wrong camera these morons probably confiscated all the cameras and they back in the day it was not like a lot of options in cameras so they probably put a wrong one like back in in the hands of the the hiker and it's so like i think that they were the ones who set up the fire. I think, I don't know what broke the branches. It could be that either military when they were setting up the thing. It could be they're also trying to break branches down to make a fire. Exactly. Exactly. For the military because, well, the branches up there are dry and lower parts. Yeah. So when they set it up, yeah. And military would know that because they are trained to know that, especially in that area. So I think that they really set up this scene. I think that the reason that these bodies who were damaged so badly were not found in time was that they were still experimenting and figuring out what the heck happened to them. And when they couldn't find anything, they just ended up dumping the bodies there and saying like, oh, look, we found them two months after, right? So interesting. Yeah. Such a fascinating case. Absolutely. And what's crazy is that out there, I don't know a person that has a military theory. They have a military theory that they clashed with military and military killed them. I don't think that's what happened. I think military just set up the scene and it's very important. Yuri Yudin, before he died, this one that left, he said, the military flask was not ours. I'm a hundred percent sure. He said, and neither was the camera. So you make conclusions. I think these Murons, these military guys, which they are Murons in so many cases, like knowing so many of them, like they, they probably like set up this scene. They had good fire because they would be cold and they accidentally left the flask and they accidentally left the wrong camera in there and there's always something left behind like they're just they're not you would think that they would cover their tracks absolutely and what's crazy is that you know what take military out of it and all these things that actually tell you like the body that was already dead and moved right you know face down like what

like the body moved themselves like no it didn't whatever killed them someone else was there yeah and he was placed face down, right? So that only reinforces my theory. But another interesting thing is, can you imagine how

scared they were the military themselves then that the final conclusion was overwhelming force like if I was military and I killed them myself right I'm putting down like I mean you know take an example from Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton like I'm putting down all the wrong you know autopsy results and all the wrong but they didn't though they could have said oh you know they all died from hypothermia and they had a I don't know crash with a cow I don't know like something right like crash yeah like they found a wild cow and the you know wild cow did all of that i mean they could have come up with so many different theories if they really wanted to cover it up i don't think they wanted to cover it up i think they were shocked yeah my theory is that i still stick

with the theory that they wanted to scare the living lights out of people to keep them away

from that area i whatever you don't have me that because like that's the i understand why would you think that but it did the opposite though that's the thing it always does and i don't think they

were that stupid i think that was their their initial thing that was their their they wanted to set that up because if military just wanted to kill people they just kill people yeah right but who killed them though that's my point i don't know but it's i i think it's outside of some kind of secret base i think it's more plausible that it's like energy weapons that they use

You have to understand what time we're in. I really doubt that. And if it was energy weapons, then how come others died from hypothermia and these four were damaged this way? Exactly. Nothing adds up. Nothing adds up, exactly. Unless we talk about some entities that we still don't know about, right? Then everything adds up because they can inflict wounds like that. They can also

So, you know, they could have been stumbling upon maybe a home or something of these interdimensional beings. Yeah, possible, could be.

But it's certainly something that I can explain the cover up with military. I cannot explain what what actually happened. Right. Yeah. So it stays a mystery. We'll never know. We'll never know.

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