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What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flay Grinch. And today we are feeling optimistic. Today we are feeling good. The New York Knicks have advanced after 27 years to the NBA Finals, man. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Big, big, big applause. We got our boy Nate Jackson here who came to celebrate the Knicks victory. He was in Herald Square. He was driving by. You guys probably know him from his comedy. You've seen maybe his Netflix special. You've seen him online. But even Nate, a person from the West Coast, wanted to feel greatness in this city. He booked his shows at the Brooklyn Improv. He did two weekends in a row to make sure that he could be here just in case the Knicks extended past four games. But they swept, obviously, is what we do in the playoffs now. So, Nate, thank you so much for your contribution to New York's Knicks lore.

I think I'm the reason you guys won. just because like you needed somebody who missed basketball as much as me to be in the city so that they just felt that energy yeah buckets you know what i mean yeah uh i don't know if this is good for the city or bad um obviously it's like good because you needed a win but like you guys

don't know how to act like this is ridiculous yeah yeah we're united man we're this is this It just feels like 9-12.

You're united in, that's a list. You're united in anarchy, though. Like, they are literally, like, there's, like, I saw a grandma crowd surfing. Like, it's, yeah.

Yeah.

It's pandemonium.

People think New Yorkers are relaxed. I don't know why. We've never been relaxed.

That's never, nobody has ever been like, let's talk about New Yorkers. Yeah, people think we're chill. People think they were just vibing and cooling. They smoked a weed. That's us. Is that you guys? You guys are welts up. What's up, y'all? What's up? It's Brick out here, y'all. let's fucking break out here what's up son oh my god son look at that

wow son but you usually just see us angry and disappointed right you guys are loud but we're loud and positive no no you didn't see positivity oozing in the streets

it's not positive or negative the normal New York that I know is just like loud and it's not and they're like peanut butter my girl left me yeah yeah yeah like it's not sanity that's insanity yeah we're insane people we gotta be insane in this city we're passionate people yeah yeah you got

Pull it.

I mean, people are just going crazy. There's a million of these videos. And that's his inside voice. That's what I'm saying. And that's the women. that's ridiculous but doesn't it remind you when you had a basketball team yes go sonics we're back they gave they approved the two expansion teams so seattle sonics will be back are they going to name them the sonics yeah we kept our name really yeah that's why oklahoma's the what are they called don't hate don't hate now you salty so we kept our name and brand and then vegas is the other expansion that the nba team in vegas is just bad news bro i mean that's what we said about hockey and it did that hockey i'm not worried about because they're gonna drink anywhere but they and then the uh oakland a's are i mean they're the vegas athletics now yeah

they're gonna have every sport yeah it's just gonna be bad like nba players know how to actually party and people know who they are. Baseball players nobody really knows who they are. Hockey players nobody

really knows who they are. Well the baseball players don't speak English so they don't kick it how we kick it. How do they kick it? At Latin night. A little carne asada? Yeah. A little rooftop. Yeah. Still wearing cleats. Still wearing cleats.

Sign them in. You would never complain about your hotel ten years ago, Nate. I wouldn't? No. Absolutely would. Always been bougie.

that's not a bougie complaint i've been there for 11 days by the time you hear you can tell what shoes they got on like i'm on the 10th floor of the rooftops the 11th no i was cool for five days of it yeah you just got me on the back half of like really what how on a sunday on a it's memorial day weekend yeah they've been kicking it extra but 15 years ago when you're on the road

and you're at some comedy club and you're at like a motel for the weekend you're not even worried about the sounds that are coming out of the rooms next to you right now you're at a different level of success where latinos can't be stomping on your roof oh they had a black night a white night a

latin night but what was the loudest oh asianite yeah run and then it'd be quiet for a second and then it'd be real loud so i think i don't Is that a kick? They got wooden sandals. That's why. It's extremely clicky clacky. Now, did you go peep the Asian night? You got to at least look at it. I didn't go up there at all on any night. Really? Yeah, but they do go way longer than West Coast parties because we're wrapped by like two at the latest. Yeah. They're winding down at four. Yeah. Yeah. We're at 4 a.m. And then they had day parties, too. So it will go from like that brunch, like 11 a.m. all the way until 4 in the morning. This is a real city. We have real drugs, bro. It's not, we don't like smoke weed and do edibles. Hey, y'all own them. Y'all own them. It's the hardest thing. Yeah, you guys are out here. It comes here first. And that's what's in these videos. I see drug abuse. I see a little bit of mental, just a little bit. Just a little bit of, you know. This is patriotism. I mean, this is beautiful. Look at that. That's an epic shot. America! That's America's team right there, baby. But what is on the flag?

Something's on there. Let's not, we don't got to worry about all that. Oh, yeah? Let's not make a political statement. We're just united as a city. We're coming together. There's something on that flag. on that flag we want to talk back to blue it was the only flag he had in his house he had to bring something you know you can't always plan no it's amazing to see al how you feeling man so i really feel this is a win for america right here yeah it is a win for america this is a win for america why do you feel like that because like new york is america like all the other states are just like you know y'all there but this is you know you know what it is if new york is up if New York is up, the country's up. Yeah.

Okay. I mean, this is crazy. This guy just crowd surfing on the street. And they caught him. That's insanity. They caught him.

God, that's...

Come on. There's someone in that car trying to leave. They honked. I mean, this is what they're responsible for. And this is just the Eastern Conference finals, bro. If we win the finals, they really got to shut down the city. No, I saw that. I literally... My car... My car was fighting. You went by that bus? Literally. So we were about to leave and make a left out of there. And they were setting the barricades up. I was like, we can't go left. Like, they made us go straight. And that bus driver and that Prevost bus was turned. He was up in the window, hung on. So here's the reason that everyone was like, yo! And then when the clock expired at the game, like, all the cops were like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, hitting them. So the whole street was crazy. Like, this is a problem, you guys. Like, if this is your control, this is crazy.

You're going to have to do a pain shit. You know when he, like, blew up all the bridges in Batman? That's the only way you're going to stop pandemonium in New York if the Knicks...

They're going to tear up the Statue of Liberty. They're going to tear up, what's that, Moynihan? They're going to tear that up.

Where did you watch the game? At my house. And what was the emotional breakdown quarter by quarter?

I mean, it was a blowout by half. So it was really just like, don't fuck it up. They won by, like, 40.

Yeah, it was crazy. I know, but the paranoia of New Yorkers... I didn't answer the group chat until there was three minutes left in the fourth.

A lot of people have been like, don't talk to me about it, because they've torn my heart out many times.

Literally, my hands were doing that. Dan Soder is at the cellar telling me, he's like, yeah, you guys are up 20. And I'm like, Dan, don't do this right now. Do not ruin this right now. Everything is okay. Everything is okay right now. So, yeah, I'm absolutely terrified. I'm still fucking terrified. I'm putting on, like, fake bravado. Who's on the other side then?

What do you mean?

Aren't they still playing?

Yeah, they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, see. 2-2 right now, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Where does Calci have the Western Conference, like, odds? Can you pull that up, Miles?

They still got OKC up.

Yeah, OKC's at 61%, San Antonio at 40%. Yeah, I think, I don't know why I think San Antonio got it.

So it's either the alien or the refs.

Or the refs. So here's the thing about, like, if OKC played, and you probably got animosity for OKC because they used to be the Sonics and they left your ass. No, I have just nothing for them. You feel nothing?

Nothing.

Not at all?

Not at all.

There's not a little nostalgia play? There's not like that? You see my franchise and they yanked it away from you? Of course there's nostalgia.

There's nostalgia. Yeah. They brought, they had a Durant game, and they just like, whatever team Kevin was on at the time, they came back and played in Seattle, and it was just like, it was like we were back.

Yeah.

It was just to watch Kevin Durant play.

You know what is kind of crazy is like, great sports city, Seattle. To lose the franchise is the most peculiar thing.

Unannounced. I just don't understand it. We didn't even know they were for sale. It was like July 2nd, 2008. And kids were trying to get into the arena. And they just put it. Somebody just came up and taped a lined piece of paper. College ruled piece of paper. They're now in Oklahoma City.

Yeah.

Wow. Dirty. Go Thunder.

Dirty. It's all that money out there. Apparently that was the Starbucks guy. Howard Schultz. He did what? He sold it? According to Chattopity, it says he owned the Sonics. The team was losing money.

No, don't put that on me now. And wanted a major renovation. They hate billionaires now.

He might have had a T, but... He might have had a T. It sounded... How'd you say his name? Howard what? Schultz. I don't hear the T pronounced, man.

That's Schultz. Yeah, there's a lot of T, man. There's too much T in there. Fuck that guy. Fuck Starbucks.

So in order to upgrade the arena, he tried to do this whole thing, but officials didn't want to give him a deal. So in 2006, he sold the team to OKC, led by Clay Bennett, this group.

Can someone explain this shit to me? Why is it that we always have to pay for the arena to get upgraded, but we don't own the team?

I don't know, but Green Bay owns their team, and I'm just jealous sometimes.

Yeah. Yeah, but that's the only way they're going to have a team there. Yeah. Because if it was one guy that owned that team, that team would be in Vegas already.

Yeah. Yeah, that's for sure.

The only way you could keep a team in Green Bay, Wisconsin, is if every single person in that town owned a piece of that team.

I haven't had a good time in Green Bay. You've done shows? Yeah, I've been out there. I haven't had a good time yet. Why? I don't know. It's just like it's not my speed. I feel like everybody's got the inward on the tip of their tongue. Where else do you put it? What part of your tongue do you place? I got a tip for you. That's what you want to say real bad.

Speaking of, what do you think of the roast?

I was there, man. I thought, first of all, I don't think anybody's talking about how easy it is to just get caught up in the moment. Because it was like a comedy Super Bowl.

Yeah.

And a lot of wild shit was getting said, but you're like, fuck it. You're eating a charcuterie board off a table and there's a camera in your face. You know what I mean?

Oh, did they catch you laughing at some crazy shit?

On the live feed, I was in it like seven times, according to my nieces, and then ended up staying on, I guess I was in it three or four times. Really? So they were like.

Did you get shit for laughing at stuff that is a no-no?

No, no, no, no. I didn't get shit for laughing. I think one of my big ones, I was cracking up hard and they caught me, but it was when Cat Williams said something about Cat Williams. But it was like, people got to understand, like, what people are, because if anyone's seen it, you've seen that there's been, like, I don't know if you call it hate or, you know, it's just been, yeah, it's been some backlash. But this thing was three hours long. And so if you took the time it took to say every word that pissed people off or whatever, it's like they're mad about about 50 seconds of content out of the whole thing. But I said that on, when Charlamagne asked me on the breakfast club, I'm like, I feel like Hinchcliffe had it. He didn't need that last joke.

Yeah.

He had it. He had every household.

And he was crushing.

He had every household. He had five times the last per minute than anyone else. Yeah, he was on fire. It was nuts. Yeah. He had notes. So he was going teleprompter from his mind, from his notes. Like, he was like, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. And then at the end, he says to George Floyd, I literally was like, I turned to Deon Cole. I was like, he ain't have to do that. He had the country. He had everyone. And then he was like, and by the way, tear back in half.

He had everyone. So you think there was nothing else that he said? You think that he would have been just unanimous, best part of the roast? If he didn't go there?

We might be nitpicking over something else he said, but it wouldn't have been something that is so blatantly, like, both sides are like, yeah, he went a little far.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It would have been easy to be like, you're tripping. Funny's funny. like some of that stuff was like on paper yeah that ain't that funny even with delivery you know what I mean but it wasn't necessary to say you know I mean look at how hard he went so hard he just logged Cheryl his second career you know what I'm saying like she's back she got a book a Netflix special she killed it absolutely

and she's a beast she's been a talented for decades man facts I was a kid watching Cheryl both

so that's what I'm saying and it was epic because she said everything that needed to be said and then got a chance to defend herself and then you saw her going to having fun and then telling everyone why it's okay to have free speech she kind of touched on all four things that needed to be said in the moment but the first, if Tony didn't go that far, that hard I don't think that is received just as much, you know what I mean

you think that was the one thing that framed it because it seemed like i don't know i don't know like there's been some people talking about it yeah i mean chelsea's been talking about it a lot

lately what did chelsea say so she's really like saying like she's she's she's like casting them out badly yeah i mean like she's like they're sexist they're bigots they're they're like there's nothing to do with what's funny and she even she even brings up what cheryl wasn't offended

by and said that she would be so she's trying to tell cheryl what she's offended by no you can

watch it right there she's on a pod with deon and this is basically what she said this clip got like 14 million views but yeah i mean it went crazy viral but this is basically we can cut through

a couple parts but tony hinchcliffe and shane and their backgrounds i had girls ex-girls

blowing up my dms that had dated shane and were telling me stuff about him so based on that i was

like oh these guys are pretty bad so you asked something on him that you was wrong you could tell us now what uh

it's just everything you know that they're racist that they're biggest that they're sexist you know that they think they're like invincible that they've been canceled for being like you You know, Shane got fired from SNL, but then was on SNL years later. So he got fired. So what happened in between those two events? So he believes, this is per one of his exes, that he's invincible. He's like, doesn't matter. I can say anything I want.

Yeah. Do you think that now a lot of, like, white comics, they feel as though that they can say something racist and it's going to further their career?

Well, yeah, they're going to get in with that group of, like, Roganites and that Austin group of Joe Rogan and all of those guys. he isn't and i just you know like that's their mo even some girl comics have started to do it

to be like in with that with that group yeah man that epstein comment hurt her bro that's got to be down since she was at the island not even the island she went to like a like a small dinner small dinner's worse like if you had like a big event he was at like if you were at coachella's like i didn't know he was gonna be at coachella's but if you had his house with like seven other people damn yeah but what if you don't know you just still not know i know who's at the dinner with seven other people maybe how many minutes you've been to with seven other people this is

that's so exotic you're like just trust me we're going to this bomb ass island we're about to have

dinner i don't think it was at the island yeah i think it was in new york city we're about to have this bomb ass dinner yeah you know what i'm saying and if there's a chelsea i think she talked about it a bunch before this she did i think she did like in a book and like did it in like her special She talked about meeting them before.

So why is she framing them in this light? This is what I don't understand. Oh, I thought it was the Zionist comment that got her.

That's what I thought turned her up, too. Because right now, that's radioactive right now.

Oh, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so what is she? She's saying she's a Zionist. No, he said that.

He said it all in one, in her intro. Yeah, yeah. Just a throwaway. And chuckled all the way through it. Like, no, I'm serious. She really didn't go to a dinner. It's fucked up, man.

But anyway, it is funny that like she's she's sitting there and saying that like Shane and Tony are Nazis and she's sitting next to Dionne Cole, who's literally like bringing Kanye on stage, who's selling like Nazi merch. Like there's no conversation about that at all. You see a lot of hypocrisy? Guys, here's all of our dates in 30 seconds. June 5th and 6th, I'm going to be in Virginia Beach. And then August 8th, I'm going to be in Halifax, Nova Scotia with SNL's Cam Patterson, Lucas Zelnick, and Mark Gagnon. TheAndroidSchultz.com for those. And then also, we have the Life Paddle Classic Charity Tournament, June 4th. Shout out NeuroGum for doing this with us. All the proceeds go to BabyQuest, which is the IVF charity that my wife and I work with. many other people work with and just helping people start families a very expensive process so it's alleviating that pressure for them and neuro gum has the dad bundle the andrew shows dad bundle that they're selling right now on their website and if you buy that or you just want to donate you don't have to just buy that but the proceeds will be going to baby quest so you can help support also come out to the tournament it'd be absolutely great you can sign up you can play and uh yeah we're just going to raise a bunch of money for people trying to start families playing the most fun sport that there is. Awesome. I hope to see you guys there June 4th. Paddlehouse in Dumbo, New York. Love you guys. Mark, what you got?

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And then she goes on to talk about Cheryl and like that whole...

she felt about the jokes at the end, I think it's right around here. I'll take it, though. I'm okay with her being like, I don't want you talking about lynching black people as a joke. Even if her... Even if the soapbox she's standing on is tattered. Somebody gotta say it. And it doesn't need to look like us. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you prefer if it's somebody else saying it. No, I do prefer if it's us, but somebody needs to keep that going so it's not like, the blacks are still mad. I get it. So it validates your anger when somebody else is saying it. It's not about—we're pissed already, but you guys don't respond, and you guys being white. You guys don't respond until you see other white people involved. Like, look at the history of what it took to get real change in the Civil Rights Movement. Like, they had to see some white people get hurt. It's like, oh, okay, now they've gone too far. Yeah, yeah.

So you're saying that white people are the real good guys.

But I'm like— Yeah. It's just when you get what you think is a win, the way you act. that's all i'm saying they used to have the same size parties and it wasn't for it wasn't for winning so i'm just glad something was said but i you know i hate that we have to

sit back like do you ever have to battle that like you're like i'm a comedian and i say fucked

up things versus i'm a black dude of course but i walk up to the line of what's acceptable i might put a toe over and then i back up off of it like i'm not some people are enamored by what it does to cross the line like what are they gonna do when i get on this side and i play over here like let's play in this area of like like let's elicit responses like the response i want is laughter so i just want to stay on the funny side of things yeah as far as uh the the black part like i am like there's nothing i can do to keep being put that like comedy segregated what

do you do yeah you know what i mean what do you mean comedy segregated comedy segregated yeah meaning what like there's you know segregation honestly i don't see color so like so it never made any sense this podcast is segregated right now there's so many water fountains they should

have made you ball rock you would have seen color after that you're gonna be a black character so

let's see how you feel so you you mean like in terms of like there are circuits there's like the black circuit the white circuit there's the latino now it's building up yes that's literally

what it is but you've done both i've done both i came up in the black circuit facts but why does there have to be a circuit it's only because of necessity black people wouldn't have to be like we're gonna do it our way over here like this if there was a fair inclusion i think it's two things

i think it's fair inclusion but i also think it's like people want to see the comedy that they relate to reflect it so like if you go to some like mainstream i'm performing in theaters that black

people weren't allowed in like these we aren't in new theaters when's the last time you were in a brand spanking new theater no no i'm not they're all old like they're all yeah and literally black people weren't allowed of course of course and we built it so that's i was at the rhyming like naked naked naked naked i hope everybody understands that that needs to be said by me on this stage now let's start the show yeah it was like that yeah yeah yeah mexicans built the rhyming because

they redid it but yeah i think the initial the initial version i think people in the room would have said that we're before a lot yeah a lot before y'all were like finally

but there's we went to one we went to one theater and they still because it was like uh

what did you see it's in alabama we were there and it said and there's a colored section that they kept up in the back where black people used to sit at shows we did that one you remember that

well this isn't what i was talking about but this is very interesting i didn't make black people sit there i actually should have so progressive no what i saw was uh there was one that kept their sink it was like this was a blacks only sink and it was in the back and it didn't work but they were like just so you know like so all these theaters at one point not allowed then they let mezzanine seating then it's like now y'all can come wherever and then we were allowed to perform yes yeah yeah so it's not that far off we're not talking like my dad remembers yeah you know i'm saying yeah your dad remembers i saw that video y'all walking in man she's old enough yeah my dad

is alzheimer's he doesn't remember you don't see color he doesn't remember but no it is it is um yeah i guess that is it's i don't know it's also like it's weird for me because like my introduction to comedy was deaf comedy jam you know and it was like i don't even think i saw white comics like i was like aware of like seinfeld and that but i never saw seinfeld stand-up until late years later i saw the show first so it was this like thing that i saw and observed and i also like grew up in new york so it was a little bit different obviously for me than somebody who like never saw diversity at all like it wasn't like a weird you guys are

definitely very cultured out this way like but i do agree with you like less represent

Presentation in the mainstream clubs, way more now, but definitely less initially. But why are we calling that mainstream? Do you see what I'm saying? All of these definitions are because somebody was like, nah, let that be over there.

Well, I think they called it mainstream because of that reason, right? It was called the Chitlin Circuit when I was coming up, which was like the black circuit. Because you guys love that food all day. Yeah, they would give free Chitlins out at all the shows, dude. That's why I went. I got five minutes of a bucket of Chitlins, dude. Shout out to Smokey Suarez, man. I love you, Smokey. I love you. Thank you, Sam. I never got any chicken.

She had a parrot and shot his shit. I put Smokey's on my plate. Is he? Oh, yeah. I want to talk about that, too. If you look at the definition of chillings, it literally is why it's called the chilling circuit. It's the part of the pig that nobody wanted to eat. So they're like, here, y'all can have that. And then they made the most of it. And now it became cultural delicacy or whatever. So I'm not trying to like rah-rah for like the black comics. I just wanted, I'm just saying it is. It is what it is. And the fact that you have to circumvent and go around or whatever. The proof is in the pudding when part of Hollywood goes, let's just go to Austin. Explain that. Well, Austin is very red. Austin is not. Austin is like. Texas is red. Texas is red. Yeah, Thompson Girl was like, what you want is to be in a blue city and a red state.

But isn't that every, like, conservative state? It's like the Capitol's always, like, the most, like, liberal place. You go, like, the reddest fucking state. Facts. But they're like, keep Austin weird. Like, they put effort into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep Austin's a real thing. That's what being Democratic is. You guys are fucking weird over here. Like, gay people get married. Yeah, it's fucking odd. But isn't Washington like that, too? Isn't Washington super red, except for? No. Washington's blue. I thought Washington was like, where did KKK went or some shit?

No, I think you may be thinking about Idaho.

No, maybe Oregon. Or maybe I'm thinking of Oregon.

Potentially. Medford, Oregon. Those are the same to me a lot. All my dads are like, don't stop there for gas. That's all I know. Did he say that? When I was younger, yeah. Like when we were on college road trips, he's like, there's a lot of places you can get gas. I wouldn't recommend Medford. Gresham. They just had a high population of skinheads. Like legit. Just like, yeah.

Tight black boots, big tight jeans, big boots. Now that you can go to Turkey, I feel like that skinhead shit is done. I feel like they were leaning into that a little bit because of hereditary reasons. Germany too? They had hair over there. Not the ones that were in them boots. They didn't. I thought they had, they used to say, did my haircut look like that? That's the old school. Back in the day, the old one.

You got sideburns now.

No, I got sideburns. That was the thing.

I knew nothing of it. I was like, who the fuck is that? But no, it's a segregated thing. And that's why I like kudos to you. Like I give roses because you come up cultured, right? Like bet. Matt Reif, right? Matt's little Ohio kid. He's been, I mean, came up cultured. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's not like, it doesn't feel like because of a thing, that success is a thing. I'm just saying, like, it's, like, this is how crazy it is. Chocolate Sundays. Yeah, yeah. No, I love it. Moe Better Mondays. Yeah, Trippin' on Tuesdays. Yeah. Wildin' Out Wednesdays. Crack Em Up Thursdays. Those are the black shows in LA. And you can legitimately do those your whole life. Yeah. And never do The star of chocolate sundaes Come down on a Tuesday And they're going to be like You alright? You must be here for a check So just to describe

It's a refried Wednesdays

That's Richard Villa's brand

I know Slanted comedy

That's Edwin San Juan That's the Filipinos You think I'm making it up That's what they call white night

College night

i swear to god no way yes and the weekend's like all-star comedy night where somebody from each

one can pop in on a friday it's called all-star yeah but there's never white people in the all-star

game have you seen an all-star game we have to come do something called the enhanced games yeah but he's german white he's like we don't really claim foreign whites yeah that don't You know what I mean?

Like, Luka's kind of white. But look where the one black show, the one produced black show is at the store.

What you're describing was the L.A. comedy scene where there was, like, a night, there was a black night for all these different days. It was. It's still like that. Yeah, but, like. What shit? Do you think it has the same cultural impact that it did maybe 10, 15 years ago? Like, I remember those nights, to be honest, were the only nights that the clubs were sold out during the week. now you talking that shit but like this is okay then how come industry don't go to those nights so here's the thing that's interesting to me is that industry did start to go and then those guys did start to pop off and then those guys started to become part of the all-star lineups and then all of a sudden now the mainstream show or the the all-star show or whatever you call it that now it's just a kind of normal show where like everybody's involved in it and then that took i think some of the heat off of the Black Knights. I don't.

I think that they went to Black Knights and they didn't grab, they grabbed who was safe. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, like, I'm from Seattle. I see it all. I'm black, but in a wildly diverse and or heavily white area. You just see it. I just see it. So you think they were taking- You're telling me the crowds are there on Black Knight. Why not the cameras?

I'm telling you, or did you just say it?

I'm telling you what. For the last 50 years in comedy, let's go, as long as we could perform publicly, who's been the top five grossing comics?

Oh, I mean, yeah, no question. But, like. No question of what? Who it's been, like, color-wise? Sure. I mean, in the last few years, maybe it's different. Facts. You hit the scene. Shane is also absolutely crushing it. And all of that's fine, but I think that. But yes, you're talking about Chappelle, right? You're talking about Chris Rock.

First of all, everyone is welcome to do Stata. I don't want to be like, oh, I'm a separate, I'm separated. I'm just, I'm saying, here's what I see. Yeah.

And then I know my own journey. Well, pull it back even far because I think this is an interesting. So back in the day with the clubs on the road, there would be like a week and a month that they had like a quote unquote black comic come in. Yep. But from what I've been told, that weekend would pay for the rest of the weeks that the club is over.

Never heard that before. Wow. Wouldn't doubt it, though.

Because the whole community would come out. And again, this is a community thing. Like, you've seen it also with, like, Latinos. You've seen it with Asians. It's like when a community has representation, and I think one of the things that happens is, like, when whiteness is ubiquitous, you need to be, like, specific about your white. Like, whiteness doesn't have a culture around it. It has, like, okay, here's, like, white nerd culture. here's white angry at women culture here's white blue collar culture here's the what were those guys that did like uh it was called blue collar comedy tour right so it's like now you need to be like specifically niche within it and i think that's also starting to happen with non-whites which i think is very cool right which is like okay here's a black nerd archetype and i'm going to build a fan base around that here's the hood superstar here's the black like uh sophisticate whatever like to me this is the what happens when something becomes bigger than just the niche group right but there's certain acts that are for everyone yeah exactly but back in the day

it was like one black comic that would come to the club and the whole community would come out trust me i get it but what i'm saying is in the black community we don't get to have those different whatever you're just the black guy but i think now that's starting to happen you got on

glasses you don't see that you don't see that one got a book you don't see this is a thing but do you feel like it's changed at all or do you think like like for me like you're a perfect example of you building your own audience people coming out now you're doing these venues that like maybe would not be afforded to certain people 10 years ago 20 years ago they're in your position and you're just proven through commerce that's basically like they have to come

to you if they want people to come to the club a hundred percent but that's not my goal i'm from a place that's very not black right like my like my crowds are 40 40 and 20 black white and then other like i have very diverse crowds yeah right i can tell when a club puts me in the let's market them urban right i could how how how well first of all there's not enough ranch for the customers that are coming that's first i had to tell gary abdo it's facts i had to tell gary abdo stop ordering chicken and order pepperoni pizza he's like yo i'm so glad you called me and told me that because we were leaning into the chicken order i said the crowd's not gonna be all black it affects everything you don't even think about

that like because you own a club so you get it now right i'm telling you i know it's hilarious gotta order is so funny because i remember early in my career my crowds were majority black right i was doing like damn tv shows and i was doing brilliant idiots with charlemagne and i remember having this moment every single weekend it was my first time in a club yeah where the owner or the manager would come to me and he'd basically be like he'd say like wow there's a lot more black people than we thought without saying that how do you say it it's diverse exactly the diversity they say the same thing to me but they don't know how to say it because when people say diversity it's white with other things black with other things that's just called i guess y'all welcome to the barbecue he's like it's just like your shots are judged funny it's funny you see what i'm saying funny it's funny right like and what i saw was my videos if i'm interacting with Samoans or white people or gay couples. I like that pronunciation. That's what's coming to the show. I like how you get

that pronunciation right there. The Samoans. Yeah, Samoans. Yeah! He's got everybody. He's outside. That's the barbecue connection. He's outside. There's hella Asians. We call that the luau.

Yeah. But if you look on my page, I'm talking to everyone. Yes. I'm looking for the funny in your life, in your life, in your life. So that's who's coming because you feel welcome if you see a video go oh okay he's not bashing gays he's at least talking to us and having fun you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah and so i'm i'm inclusive in that sense and so it's a trip when i see that with me as being inclusive as inclusive as i am how i can be marketed because

somebody in their mind was like he's black bro they're not used to it it's just like and it's something that who's not used to it the clubs i think no it's not that it's just they think it's

the archetype so they go why do they think it's the archetype no they're not used to me coming in breaking them what they thought that's what i'm saying facts no i can see every time it's a part of our advance we're like just so you know oh wow you're about to get we have to oh wow we have to

have it in the advance they're like hey there's gonna be not black people here yes you have to

say yes because it affects their liquor order try having an asian headliner and you don't and you didn't order hella hand whiskey yeah yeah you're screwed what do you mean you out of bottle business this effect like if people are paying it it affects it right so i can tell when i come and do 13 shows with brooklyn improv 98 black even my openers are like what are they doing different because this is very very black i'm like what is the club doing different yeah you think that

they're promoting you specifically to black 100 because then i went and talked to the guy doing

marketing he was like i mean i mean the you know who it goes out to he had and then like you're

obviously furious because there's only black people there right or no people are coming to

laugh but but if my crowds are normally 40 40 and 20 and we did 13 shows with just black people yeah there's another 13 with white and there's another six with non-white this is of people missing this is what we always said i could have done a i could have i don't know what's the garden hold uh 15 000 18 000 i could have tiptoed up to the small configuration you should do it

you should do it we should that way they know everyone's welcome listen yeah i mean i think it's cool what you're doing like it's weird it's like we're always the first people to know what our audience is and who we are fast and it's like we can be annoyed at the club for not knowing it but also like they haven't experienced this type of thing in comedy especially if you had a comedy club for like 30 years they don't know what to think right i'm sure like when i'm sure when they first had gary in some of these clubs they're like wait what's going there's all these black women in here what what like there was no expectation of gary to have that if they're not

doing the research and now they do the research on you yeah but look at the research of his career now of course it's because other is now even to the crowd he had this whole time he's like doubled up yeah no everybody gary gary owen by if you close your eyes that's a black headliner if you go off of the audience that's sitting there if you walk out and had to guess who's performing yeah the black headliner he's the host of comic view yeah okay now because of social media and the algorithm and stuff that he's done that different people helped him do and what he's built in the footwork the algorithm doesn't look at him and say that same thing the internet looks So the algorithm goes, this is a white man. Send this stuff to white people. Right, so he's doubled that white audience with white guys. It is lines, and it's beautiful. The line is checkered all the way down. Right. Right? And same goes for, like, a Joe Coy. Yeah. Hysterical. Yeah. But the internet, the algorithm is going to send them to every nurse in the tri-state area. Not just the Filipino. But that's because it is typecasting us. Whoever is at the place.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And I can't get, there's no way to be like, hey, Facebook marketing, when I say these interests, I don't mean the black people that are interested in that. Just let me just put, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm not going to be running ads to cauliflower fans. What is the key words for how we get to the white folks? Because they like laughing at me. Yeah. We share funny.

a good time yeah but they look at and they're like oh big black dude no put him over there but i've always dealt with that i won the bay area black and they're like

what kind of black are you from seattle but what do you mean you won you won the bay area black and who was like what type of black are you memphis black people mississippi black

people florida black people new york black people are like he a different kind of like i went to florida memorial college as an undergrad straight out of high school it was my first time seeing more than two types of black people. Because in Washington, you got, I moved here to raise my children blacks. And then you got, look, it is what it is. Those are the two blacks. Okay? I got to Florida. Tell us, tell us. You got a Florida boy right here. So then you know what I'm talking about. It's the Caribbean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I met Trinidad. The IED. Tobago's. I met Jamaicans. I met Jamaicans from New York. Jamaicans from Jamaica. And they had beef.

I was like, yeah. We call it oxtail. But yeah, yeah.

All of them?

That's wild. I met Haitians. Yep. So that was the first time you met black people with an identity. I had a culture shock as a black man. But it's identity outside of American blackness. Because that's what you're describing with people who have Caribbean heritage. Yeah, but their identity. It's like when you meet an Italian, they could be from Jersey. They could be from New York. but they have this identity that is outside of america and outside of being white in america and the same thing exists when you meet a nigerian that grew up here jamaican etc there's like this other culture that is framing their world the way that they eat the way that they interact with they speak and when you're growing up in washington what do you call an italian from italy no joke that's what we call okay the straight ones moved here and then they're out there making pasta okay no uh what do we call an italian from italy yeah uh yeah wop i don't know what do you call something guinea a fucking guinea a wet-ass pussy

so i think that like the fact that we have that in but somebody on the outside i'm like

those are italians well that was an interesting thing that happened with sebastian do you get that yeah on the outside go those are italians i would go those are the jamaicans and they're like

ross cloud yeah jamaica jamaica new york jamaica and then new york jamaica like south side jamaica queens yeah yeah yeah upstate jamaica yes okay yeah canadian jamaicans yeah okay yeah to me not knowing anything about the culture i go that's all the jamaicans yes put them all over there they can argue inside the truck they can argue inside the building once they're there what kind you are yeah okay the italians you you if you're familiar you're like that's a a wet-ass pussy one and then this is a jersey italian okay yeah then you guys sure that's different right that's different they act different yeah okay so but i'm sure that's the italians no but you know like when you grow up in the city you know that if that's why i said new york is the exception because you guys don't have a choice. Yeah, you just didn't have the experience with that. You see people living other lifestyles. You got to at least get familiar. Yeah, it's wild, though. But even then, there's different types of Jewish people. Yes. Yes. Right? But if you don't know, you're like, damn the Jews. Right. And they have to tell you, like, well, no, I'm a different kind of man. I'm a Hasidic Jew. Yeah, I'm Ashkenazi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay? So if that's what it is, then please know it's the same thing for blacks. But you had to stop at that. To be like, those are the blacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dominican blacks aren't even black It takes effort to be like I'm going to show that I'm not just with the blacks black I'm going to go out of my way To go to the other nights I'm going to make a point To not just go where they tell me I'm welcome I'm going to go everywhere And the person that does that Does sound, move, talk, and walk different Maybe it's more cultured or whatever But they just do I see a cultural difference between Cat Williams and Chris Rock Of course There's somebody pulling some strings that doesn't play blacks you also didn't see it until you went to school in florida facts so it's

an education process which i'm not knocking that but i think that you're the education process for

a lot of these people i'll take all of that but if you own a comedy club for 30 years if you're in the industry there's no excuse well there's also racism i don't know

all of that to get back to explain yes it is when you're getting when you're asking for friday saturday and they're like but you're black we're gonna put you on sunday yeah you're tuesday wednesday thursday sunday you guys go during the week you sell out the whole thing and it pays for the whole month the deals are different too interesting for sure you weren't just getting whole door even when you

during the week you like if i threw my own show if you were doing like a weeknight they would obviously give you the majority of the door by the time i was eligible for door deals yeah but then you're doing weekends anyway and then you just yeah but there's some leapfrogging that happened with me and the internet but i own a club i own the biggest black on comedy club in america at 280 seats i get the calls from the agents that are like do you want this person i wish i could say name so you would understand they're like here is african-american female beast for x amount i'm like that's doable also if you have a weekend open for unknown never heard of white guy 85 interesting and then what do you have to say are you out of your mind you're paying her that and him that why wouldn't you be offering me his deal for her that person has 30 years in comedy That person is hysterical. That person's, like, what's the difference? Yeah. And it's not even about asses and seats. You just got this person's 30-year career set up to be half-papered forever? Wow. Interesting.

Even though that person's a draw, and you know that that person's going to sell it no matter where they go.

It's not about selling out at that point. I mean, for— The unknown white guy wouldn't know draw. They're like, let's grow it together. Oh, wow. So even the way that they're marketing clients to you. You don't even know it. Holy shit. People don't realize it. And that's what I'm saying. When I'm sitting here talking, I'm not, I could easily just be like, oh man, he's all wound up. Or I could literally be seeing this shit every day. And then when I go into the city and I see a hundred percent black audience, I'm like, somebody missed something. Or if it's all white, I'm like, okay, we went too hard the other way.

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interesting like my trajectory

trajectory with the with the business i came before they were defining what pocket to put you

that's the thing and so it's like you know what i found out yeah matt rife you were his you were his impetus he saw you posting the videos and he was like i'm gonna do that yeah yeah yeah he was mine he came to my club he didn't sell one year and the next year he did and then he was i said what did you do he was like get on tiktok yeah that was it yeah that's the rest on me but yeah So, thank you. You're welcome. Who was yours? Who's the start of this? Let's film ourselves and put it online. Did you see someone do something? Russ.

Russ, the musician.

Really? I thought you were going to say Russell Peters.

No, I mean, shout out Russell Peters. And Russell Peters gave me a glimpse. So, like, early in the career, it was basically like I want to make it through, like, the traditional ways or whatever. get a premium blend get a fucking comedy central half hour all those things i was never you know given any of those opportunities and like me too but they wouldn't put me on the channel exactly if i go on black entertainment television so i couldn't even get on that right well i did i got an mtv2 which was basically black mtv2 they just didn't want to say it like that but and it was awesome and we got all these crazy things and then i did the pod with charlemagne and charlemagne is just the fucking man and like you know all this is downstream from him by the way and uh but like i you know i was able to kind of build up a little audience online and then there was some maybe residual of the mtv stuff but i was never like really selling out with the mtv stuff okay tried to do one more show was like for vice or something i was like if this shit don't work out i'm putting everything online and i put out a special that i couldn't sell anywhere online and then the next weekend i like sold out a club but it was like paper sellout either way they came bro you know back in the day if the room is full i move the needle and plus the people don't know

anyway they don't they don't they have no idea the person next time paid five exactly they're

the only ones to think that they didn't pay yeah each one is like i got a deal exactly so i put it out and then i saw russ doing this thing where he put out a song a week i saw that too and i was like i don't know how long his run was but he was on he was on it yeah and i was like i'm not working hard enough so i started put i was like i'm gonna do 52 weeks of comedy and for every week i put out a new clip and i was just cutting myself a lot and then it was just like captioning was a bitch i didn't so i at first i didn't understand captioning and then we figured out the idea was basically like most people are watching this shit on the subway or or the bus so they can't put it loud you know they can't have the volume on unless they're i just figure i'm like they're

sneaking i figure they're sneaking at work or sneaking to work so i'm like okay we need to

at least engage in some way so there's other things that we started to like find you know different things some things happen by accident like when we were doing the turn your phone videos we just didn't want to re-edit the whole shit vertical so we were just like turn your phone and it was so funny like the way that people reacted they were like they found an engagement hack when you turn your phone you can't scroll and we were like oh yeah that's what we did

but anyway i thought that was so ingenious that was that was mark and i and uh and alex and just

like just locked in the fucking room and shout out robbie slovak but like we just put out we just put out content and then things started to build and it built in the coolest way because it just sent to people who fuck with the comedy. Were you teleprompted for those? For when I did the turn your phones? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It had to be. It was just too high. I was like, how big is this motherfucker's brain? I was sitting on my toilet like, God, you said a lot of words. Very small brain. But yeah, it was like, anyway, putting the stuff out there and then all these different people got to access the content. So when I did hit the road, it wasn't this like, hey, let's build this act together like they used to, you know, kind of like pitch the clubs back in the day.

we were able to get people in they still do it but then you got diversity right away but so you got the internet that's like i like this guy exactly yeah and i hate to say but the internet doesn't see color unless we literally make an effort we force them yes and if you don't force them to everybody's just going to come to your stuff because you're you're watching it all in private yep and even if if even if you're a little old white lady and your whole community there's no black people yeah in that when you get in the right algorithm you're like this is my thing so then when that person's coming to town here's a little white lady at a show where you were like okay i did a show in a theater they had a another theater william shatner was there okay the the staff was like literally couples were coming up and they're like you guys going to see william shatner yeah you guys go like my manager's assistant dad and his girlfriend came these are like really old they just came out and they just started guiding them to william shatner like through both lobbies all right where are you sitting yeah they're like uh we're here for nate jackson like yeah really oh well go back that way follow the blacks like that like and so that's the most genuine form of it i agree but what i am concerned

with a little bit is like now that there's so much content on the internet not just stand-up in an effort to get it to the right people the algorithm gets more sophisticated and then i think you lose a little bit of the diversity like the algorithm doesn't take a chance like it used to where they would just send a clip that you did to filipinos that got nothing to do with filipinos but they're like ah they like stand-up so they'll probably like this thing now i think it's getting so specific that it might send it to the exact group of people they think will like it and then you lose a little of this cool flavor of somebody experiencing something that had nothing to do with them that they actually enjoy. So I'm like, there's a little part of me that goes like, does everything just become heightened in a specific niche especially in this time? Yes.

Are you noticing the same thing? Yes. Because you put out a lot of... Yeah. I put out like 40... I don't know. I think I'm putting out somewhere between probably three hours and somewhere between three and four hours of material a month it's crazy it's going out yeah it's the volume is and so i know it's getting niched off right you know what i'm saying and feel it right yeah but i make an effort to be like we're posting the fishing video we're posting the video with the amputee we're posting the video with the gay couple like

oh interesting so you're i literally have to come out and be like fighting back against where the

algorithm wants to send you i'm paying attention to what the internet's doing and i'm adjusting my set that's which is what we all do right like you saw i sat down on stage i used to i'm very physical i was the biggest physical guy big old just running around me and akin to like a rodney perry and then i ran out of the video i ran out of the damn screen i ran off camera two three times like let me sit my fat ass down so then i sat on the stool and that's why they're like does he even stand up right because i didn't have people i just had a tripod i set it in the back when i ran off and when nobody was there to be like get back between those lines now it's different but yeah

i remember those days you got the tripod the tripod the back half the clip got like a server's clattering and she ain't even serving she's just like watching the show yeah like you can't be upset in the way the people laughing and the camera shaking yes you know like this is but this was at a different time in the internet where like rough things were really valued yeah because people thought that they were almost stealing they're like i get to watch yeah stand up for free i can only watch that on hbo i can only watch that on comedy central yeah and then we were serving yeah not to get caught up in nostalgia but like there is a beauty to the roughness of it you know i always think about like how do we bring an a version of that back where it feels heightened but it has that intimacy of the early days i thought of a couple ways

talk to me stop bagging up phones and encourage them to film bro i i want you guys to start filming when you leave home yeah you know what i'm saying film from the house like make it a make a vlog and i want to see it from your little dirty angle with the fat guy's ear in your shot and all that like you're just getting out like it's you don't you know because we're we're we're doing table kills like you'll take take that table out that table out put the tripod right there there is no way someone's in the way but if you're like just getting gully with it like you take but and you guys all airdrop it to this macbook before you leave and then you got this

wild footage from all over aren't you worried about losing material because i know you're doing

a lot of crowd work but like i don't know that's the conversation we have a lot i don't i don't post jokes i don't but i have like my set right now we're trying i'm trying to get it back down but it's i'm doing like 88 minutes on average right now wow and so there's like 35 40 of of just i just come out on their ass pause now and then and then i'll open it up to crowd work but

are they so basically whatever you give people is their expectation for you so if you give people crowd work they're gonna go okay this whole show is gonna be crowd work oh they're for sure online being like all he does is crowd work and people like go to a show it's way more no i'm saying when they show up yeah i've had that too and are they upset when they don't see it no because they

get it got it okay jokes so it's not like it's not like me doing my material keeps it here and then i go all right crowd work and then we come up here your material is conversational in the same no i'm ripping i'm sweating wet wiping my brow and then i'm like are you motherfuckers ready for some crowd work after that then they're like oh like the other night a guy was like that wasn't the crowd work but he didn't even realize i'm just i'm just i came out yeah i'm i'm trying to that's that hunger that young you know when you're like i gotta kill i gotta kill i still have that yeah and now it's a chip to where i'm like okay y'all think that the crowd work is how can that possibly be better than something i looked at twice yeah yeah yeah

also how can it be raw like if it's the second time i said it i'm trying to channel how i said it so that it felt as authentic the first time right the crowd work is the most authentic purest form of stand-up period otherwise you're just you're you're just you're a teleprompter yeah do you get what i'm saying yeah i the pushback the pushback i would

say is that like i don't think that a joke you really believe in and care about is inauthentic i think that i'm creating that but i wouldn't say that's pushback i'd say that's just a different

conversation yeah if we're talking about material bet yeah like you're talking let's say the material is about your father right like how can that be inauthentic exactly right yeah but if you talk to somebody and right there they tell you they have all timers and then you are pulling from your yeah of course what you know about it and i think people not crowd work and

i don't think it's fair i think that i think there's a lot of frustration around comics who maybe they don't they there's one a lot of shitty crowd work out there but there's also a lot of shitty just jokes out there yeah but like i also think that there's a lot of comics who like they just don't feel inclined to talk to the audience they're really not curious about the audience and they don't they're maybe not good at it but they see crowd work as the way to succeed so there's like a little resentment maybe for it but i think if you're if you're genuinely curious about the audience and you enjoy the interaction i do you shouldn't shy away from it like because some people are being critical of it i feel the same way about impressions like some people like hate impressions they're like it's not stand-up it's cool but it's not a joke but then there's some people that do impressions that have jokes built into it brilliantly and you're like that's unbelievable so i just think there's levels to all these different styles of comp people are gonna get

money people are upset or frustrated by crowd work just because they see so many clips of that like those are the clips that people are putting out more than their actual because that's what you can recreate you can't put the four hours of jokes out every week so now people are just like

oh this is what everybody does now well that's what i was tempted to do because like i i like how josh johnson is like i'm gonna focus on this one thing and lock in it's unbelievable and just pin game it it's all good he has to have a writer's table i don't give a fuck i don't think josh does i'm sure it's all him but i'm just talking shit but i just i'm like are you fucking kidding me Like, on what flight did you write that hour?

Well, here's what he has that you don't have, is autism. And that allows you to lock in and put the pen to paper for seven straight days with an hour of new material about it. It's unbelievable.

Yeah, we were asking him, like, yeah, how do you do it? And he was like, that's just all I think about.

He told us. Yeah, he just literally focuses on it.

He was like, I just spent the whole week working on it.

He also said he has, like, memory tricks to remember it. Like he was like I create these like Memory loops in my brain

Yeah he's like I'll think of a word That's the first letter Of each chunk And I go through the word And I hit all the letters Da da da da Oh like mnemonically

Yeah exactly So he'll do a set list It's cars Women Turtles And he memorizes CWT Yeah exactly Something like that People do that for scripts too Right Yeah that's basically

And he's got a script That he gotta remember

Every week Right But even when I'm like Breaking down sides and stuff are about to go acting to a scene and I'll take the most powerful word from each whatever, each block, and then I'll remember it. You need triggers. It's miraculous. There's somebody out there that goes, another black.

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I was just about to stock in it. Did you really? Are you shitting me? No, not good. I did it.

Not good. I mean, it's just like a, they're just trying to pump up peptides, right? Like, that's all it is. That's not peptides. Well, they're trying to get people to, what I imagine is, is like the people who are owning the Enhanced Games are also like deeply invested in all these pharmaceuticals that like help you. Is that today? Yeah, that's in the red, my boy. I don't know.

How much does that drop though? 40%. Oh, just 40. Yeah, but what's the monetary value of it? Right now it's trading at, what is that, like $3? $3.18? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I should buy more right now.

You buy the dip. For anyone that doesn't know, this is an Olympics that is basically enabling and accepting.

But you can't really use steroids. So there's all these restrictions in it. Like your testosterone can't be over $2,000 because there's liability. Like if you just get juice to the gills and someone dies, then it's on you. You can't even use BPC-157. So there's all these peptides you can't even use. And then the worst thing that could have possibly happened is the dude that didn't use any steroids in one of the swimming races won.

That also happened with a sprinter as well.

So it's like what you want is a guy who just ran in high school to get on juice. Yeah, but that's what we watched.

i say the opposite so you got a bunch of average joes juiced up keeping up with a pure athlete like this guy was just on his couch two weeks ago but these guys aren't average joes these guys are

elite guys that lost to a dude that's not even on steroids so they're elite as well yeah but what

made them elite they're like former olympians or they're like like this guy was a former olympian but the drug look at all that meat i'll come off his back that's drugs yeah that's the drugs right And without that, imagine what he'd look like without any of that muscle mass. Just an accountant. No, because he was an Olympian before all that muscle mass. Yeah. What color's below bronze? Azul? I guess the point is, is like. He won, though.

Did this guy win?

I can't. I don't know specifically. Yeah, he won like a porpoise.

No, but I don't like the fact that they're putting limitations on this shit. Just let him go. You can't. Because they'll die. Like all these weightlifting dudes die at 40 So we watch UFC fights

Sammy Sosa is white now bro I think that's a before and after

But I'm just saying we watch UFC You went from Deadpool to this Yeah So Fred Curley ran 100 meter in 9.97 I saw that But how old is this guy

How old was he in the picture on the left Cause that says 20 Isn't that 2008 What is that behind it Which Olympics is this?

I don't know which one that is. I can find out, though. He looks a lot older in the face on the right. Yeah, I mean, steroids would do that a little bit. Yeah. Steros will aid you.

Now, if he's only six months different, I'd be like, okay, touche.

But the claim was that these were going to smash all the records. And I think this guy even said, like, yo, give me a million bucks, I'll juice to the gills, and I'll break the record.

Well, that was the thing. If you break a record, you get a million bucks. I think a couple guys might have did it, or, like, one guy did it.

There was one swimmer that did it, I think, with a swimsuit that was banned in 2008. Oh, so that's not even you. And so it's not nationally, it's not recognized by any governing body, even the ones that would acknowledge a steroid war. Yeah. Because they're like, well, the swimsuit plus the steroids, and then he just beat it.

So I was talking to his trainer, and he basically said the problem is the elite, elite guys don't get that much benefit from steroids because they're already genetic freaks.

Now we're saying the same thing. Yeah.

Whereas, like, the regular guys, like us, if we got on Juice, maybe we get closer to those guys not on Juice.

You're still seeing shoulder blades and butt cheeks, but you're way closer to Usain Bolt. Yeah, yeah.

Right. And I think even the people in, like, the 100 meter, for example, like, he ran a 9.97. Usain Bolt was, like, a 9.5-something or something like that. But I think, like, the high school Texas state championship would have still beat this guy. So it's like, maybe better steroids, guys. Yeah, exactly. but also now people are saying that the regular olympics is an allegation is also the steroid

olympics yes without getting caught yes you get off what is it they say you start the cycle and you get off of it within enough time where it doesn't come up in any samples they try to test

it's not like boxing that they can just test them randomly i don't think they test all year

so they stay out of the testing pool and then there's like a you know a few months or whatever it is like now these guys are all always in a tournament if you're doing it but the olympics this once every four years so there's probably a way to get as juiced up as possible get it out the system and then when you're in the olympics you're already on it so people are saying this

is the the olympics is like the enhanced games with the most elite athletes whereas the enhanced games is the second tier most elite athletes with steroids yeah you know like so they're like hey

we're just telling you we're enhanced yeah the olympics is enhanced yeah exactly that's what

people are saying so they're like the olympics is already the enhanced games and this is kind of proving that to some people then other people are going the other way saying nah this proves

that steroids doesn't do anything in the face of elite that's that's silly you can look at a person on roids and be like golly there's changes it does something yeah oh it makes you look amazing yeah but the enhanced game isn't who looks the best but i think people are saying which i get but we're taking average people and turning them into monsters and then letting them go out there

with gifted people yeah well they're not even average these people are like olympic competitors

No, they were. That guy is way younger on the left than he is now. I would love to see the difference in age. Plus, the Olympics, you train four years, if not eight, or your whole entire life. And this seems like they're like, hey, man, we're about to do enhanced games in six months. Get your needles.

You know what I'm saying? They got to just do it with us. They have to take people who are, at most, high school athletes and then pump them full of shit and see how competitive they can be.

And I think some of them are still happy with this. So, like, the dude, Curly, I forgot his name, Eric, or Fred Curly. Like, I think for a regular event, he might win, like, 20 grand if he wins 100 meter or whatever. I think he won, like, 250,000. He did. Wow. So, even for him to not break a world record, to just show up and beat everyone at these enhanced games, he's still got a crazy payday. Yeah. So, for him, he's like, yeah.

i'll do it where's his where's his air i know it was completely private oh really he was invite only so how the fuck are they making this is why i bet i was like i'm betting that because as soon as they have tickets for sale i'm who wouldn't want to go see yeah a human pterodactyl doing

gymnast stuff and then people were even saying that this dude started like sinking the water i'm pretty sure like that was like what people like he wasn't playing i saw yeah because he's like so muscle dense and he was jumping in the water and like sinking so to a certain extent all this extra muscle mass might be a detriment when it comes to moving

through the water. Oh, wow. But if they figure out the right regimen for a swimmer, it's over with. Yep.

Unless they've already figured it out and that's what they do in the Olympics.

Interesting. Maybe. What else we got? Okay, there's a couple other things right here. Hold on. Let me pull this up. There's a guy on Fox News that was allegedly wearing a mask.

I saw that. Did you see this? I think the neck was loose. Yeah. Here, I'll pull it up right here. This is a... But why are we saying allegedly? We all saw the neck.

Well, he wasn't wearing a mask.

Well, it's difficult to say. So this is the... He's not wearing a mask. Does he have the smoking thing?

He's in the position to demand those. So I think in that sense, he controls the narrative of when he would strike...

So you see the neck part here.

Yeah, so we're saying that's a skin flap? So you see, people see this video, plus they also see Fox News having a history of bringing on people that might not be the people that they're interviewing so like there's been a bunch of clips where it's like former antifa member talks about how they're gonna destroy cities and it's just like a dude with a mask yeah and they're like oh this is just like an actor someone that they brought in to like really yeah to like talk crazy shit so that's what the whole allegation is everyone's kind of run with the story that this is a guy wearing a very realistic mask but now people have come out specifically this guy uh doctor or captain disillusionment he says this is called like a double shadow this guy rules by the way if you ever watches youtube videos he breaks down dr disillusion breaks down a lot of stuff on the internet he's very cool so he's saying that you have lighting in the studio coming from above that creates this lighting coming from below that creates that and then in certain effects when you put them together it will create a shadow from his neck from the collar on his shirt onto his neck let's go back that's a mask bro it's probably a white table nah and people are saying that's a shadow coming from the bottom of a shirt interfering with the shadow coming from the top nope nope if he had eyebrows maybe but no right that's a lizard yeah it doesn't help that he looks like a mask anyway it is and they didn't

even finish it like they didn't give him hair they didn't give him any sort of like yeah not a single wrinkle the guy's seven years old like there are other issues with this a hundred percent

Yeah. That's not shadows, man.

It's too crispy.

Right? So this is what people have been online debating. But I don't know.

He sounds like he's wearing a mask. Like, those are new lips. That's how it sounds.

But now, the only thing that makes me think it isn't is that if you were wearing a mask, you would have a turtleneck on. Like, you wouldn't unbutton three buttons because you know you're wearing a fucking mask.

He's supposed to be buttoned up. somebody's like we gotta mic you up it has to be outside of your thing and he's like well i'm a rat

so how do you want to navigate this but it seems like there's an obvious mistake that even if you're

running some type of psyop to cover someone up i'm like i feel like you would you would fix that

unless that's what they want us to think that's a mistake that's a that's a mask so you're saying

that's definitely a bad i'm not i'm not convinced i think it could be a double shadow oh did epstein He didn't kill himself also. And then go viral.

Hey, it's not me. This guy's not had eyebrows since 2011. I'm trying to find an old photo. He always finds a good one. He got his neck in 2011, though?

Okay, Thomas Massey loses his seat in Congress. I don't know if you saw this.

Nate, what do you think about that?

I don't know what we're talking about.

Well, there's this guy who's basically saying, like, we should expose all the people that were involved in the Epstein stuff. And he's like, why are we going into this war in Iran? and he's like, why are we ballooning the budget? And then people were like, that guy seems like an asshole. We shouldn't vote for him.

He was a whistleblower, basically?

Not even. He was just proponent for Epstein transparency. And he just went against Trump's agenda. Where? In Kentucky.

It was a primary. It wasn't even the main election. So they just brought this guy out of nowhere. I've never even heard of this other guy, Ed Gallarine or something like that. Really? Yeah. Ed's whole thing was like, yeah, let's not expose anything about Epstein and let's send your kids the diner on and let's blow the bucket. And then people in Kentucky were like, that guy sounds like an American, dude. That's a real patriot.

Yeah. And Trump kind of blew up this whole thing in like a small local election in Kentucky into like this national news story and use his leverage to get him out. all these lobbyist groups spent fucking

millions of dollars. He brought national... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trump's going hard being like, we gotta get Massey out of here.

Because Massey is a Republican but votes against the party a lot. Oh, well, yeah. That's what time it is. He votes against the party in times where he should.

But they don't want it. He doesn't want anybody to be pushing for... Hell no. So, yeah, where I can get you out, I get you out.

But they just spent so much money. They spent $30 million on this fucking... In the little primary. in a primary not even the main election for who's gonna be the republican candidate yeah that's

insane and his groups that got nothing to do with it i don't like that the pet the packs don't even

have nothing to do all the packs and the packs aren't even they're not even pushing the agenda of the pack they're just being like yeah this guy's an asshole i didn't i i what i think is

interesting is like if i'm gigging and i'm like in a place i will actually like be exposed to it to see how ridiculous it is. But now it just sounds crazy shady to me.

Yeah. So now people are very disillusioned. Anyone that had any symbols of hope where they're looking at a Thomas Massey like a Ro Khanna being like, these guys are fighting a good fight. The second they do it, they get it.

He's more dangerous now, though. Ooh, what do you mean by that? Because now he's his own boss. That's not his boss anymore. By way of how politics is set up, you can make way more noise outside of politics. He keeps talking his shit without the restrictions of the government. Martin Luther King Jr. was no senator. He was not next. And people say he's going to run in 28 for president. Yeah, that's interesting. He'd be way more agitating if you're not in the system. That's interesting.

That's a good point. And he seems successful on his own right, like before politics. Yeah, he went to MIT. Went to MIT, started and sold his own tech company, independently wealthy.

But now he can really focus on agitating.

Yeah.

Right? He was doing his job and being an agitator. Now, just agitate.

and you got the information because you were on the inside like you knew who the Epstein client list was I heard him say he was going to say before he left which would be fire yeah his final day he was going to drop the bomb before he left

say the names he'd be like Chessie Handler was there

yeah he said on his final day he was going to like out it all because he's also in all these closed hearings like hearing all the real shit like I think he went through all the unredacted files and all that stuff yeah so it would be interesting to see

light it up man and light it up.

Colbert officially had his final episode. Did you watch? No. Not when it was ever.

Nope. Did you ever do a late night?

No.

Was that ever a dream of yours?

Yes. Really? I'd like my own late night show.

Oh, but that's different. Did you ever want to do like five minutes as a comedian? Yeah. And who was your goal growing up? Like, what did you want to do that five minutes on?

Well, I was watching, you know, Johnny because I was just a kid and a sneaky. How old were you watching Johnny?

We watched reruns. You don't watch reruns and stuff? Reruns of Late Night? No, Carson was a different thing. So I've watched clips.

There's a phenomenon. Like, you could do five minutes on his show. And if he says, come over to the couch, the next day everything is different. Oh, really? Because there was four channels.

And there was like 25 million people watching every episode. Oh, wow. I think when he got married, they filmed it or something like that. I think it got like 50 million people. In the last episode, it got 50 million people. That's like a quarter of the country at the time.

Yeah.

Like, these are insane numbers.

That's like small Super Bowl numbers. But, no, I wanted to do Fallon just so that I can rock out with, like, The Roots or something. It feels pretty inviting. You can sing, too. Yeah, not now, though. Why? What happened? I just lost my voice yelling 13 shows.

Oh, not now, meaning this day. Yeah. But, like, your vocal cords aren't fucked up forever or nothing. No. I saw some clip. No, I saw a clip of you when you were singing, and, like, you actually have a great voice.

Yeah, I grew up in...

Did you grow up in the church?

Tenor, all that. Oh, wow. Yeah, I could sing. I have two songs I put out.

No way.

Yeah. They're both about pretty much eating coochie, but one of them's got... I got features. One of them's got Too Short and Zero from Texas, and then the other one has Twista. And so I was like, I should keep going. Because it is possible to be a number one. You can make a number one. Lou Duval? Yeah, I was just going to ask you, is this like fun comedic songs like Duval? No, I'm talking about seriously eating coochie. Nothing funny about that. But not Duralik. This is called Beat It Up. Okay. Can't play that in church. Beat up that lord. Beat up that devil.

Beat up the devil.

But yeah, so The other one's called the Cookie Monster Remix But we don't have to make this about this

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Were you inspired by Duval coming up? I'm inspired by everybody coming up. Everyone? Yes. There wasn't a single person that didn't inspire you? Okay. But I find inspiration in that too. Honestly, with me owning the club and even running nights or whatever, I see people where the vices have taken over their brains, and I'm like, inspiration. Yeah, don't do that. Exactly.

But Duval did your club, right?

Yeah, two or three times.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Duval is a huge inspiration for me, like big OG for me. He's another person, and I should have brought him up around left. But when were you with him? I mean, the guy code days. I've known Duval forever. Oh, facts. Yeah. No, I fucks with him. He was the guy to me that I saw doing comedy on the internet. Like, Russ did the model, but he did comedy on the internet.

He was like the soldier boy for comedy.

Yeah, I mean, like, he just knew audience and knew how to get things out to people, knew how to communicate with the audience constantly. And still does. Still does brilliantly.

I think he just throws a bunch of shit against the wall because he's just high and having fun. But every now and then, I don't know if I have anything to do with it or if he's already masterminded this shit, but, like, how he's sitting there squatting in front of that waterfall right now. like a couple months back he just did one fucking round and I was like more of this than throw your own Camp Flagnon

and now it looks like it's happening but he's been doing a Camp Duval for a while

yeah I know but it didn't feel like that well he didn't get that property until recently right but either way I'm a fan of it I'm a fan of of you know being your own boss you know I mean he's flying little he has his own little planes and all that stuff

yeah he flew to your show yeah I think he came when we were doing Jacksonville. He came. But just his understanding of the game, he may be one of the smartest people I've ever met in terms of just understanding human condition.

Yes.

And pure absorption, right? It's not like he got the chance to go to some fucking fancy school where you just study it all day. He literally watches people and sees through them what they actually want, no matter what they say, what they actually want. And he's just, yeah, he's just a genius, man. He's just a fucking genius. It's just, yeah.

I'll do you.

Oh, you remember this?

I'll do you. And I'll leave you my number. And you better call a nigga today.

As a matter of fact, you just give me yours too.

And bitch, I'll call you.

Instead of you, bitch, because who you think you just mislaced? Boo-boo written on my forehead. I done bought them drinks. Bitch, you is my girlfriend.

I don't want to hear that she thought you just came out.

Do you have a nice time out and just chill?

What a ledge. Genius. That's so funny. Yeah, he came twice. And what I thought was the most, he did something really dope, right? As he came from Florida, he brought Erica Dutchess, Nod, and I didn't realize that none of them had seen snow. So he got a rental car, and they drove to Mount Rainier. I love it. And it was like spring or summer. And he posted a video of them throwing snowballs. I was like, where the fuck did he go to find snow? He went to it. He went to the mountain. Like, actually, White, let's go to it. Duval can find snow anywhere. He figures it out.

He's also like the most traveled dude. very much so like he's everywhere before it's hot like when he stops going that's when it will get hot right like it's yeah like every vacation he's always there before and you can never like surprise him with a location oh yeah i was there they got some really good chicken wings that's the other thing he eats fast food whenever he travels yeah and like we were doing like some mtv because he can trust it like and i'm like we're in germany dude why don't we just go have some fucking german food he goes man i don't trust this shit and i'm like dude we're not in fucking thailand like this is germany literally everyone on the crew except him got sick see and he was like at mcdonald's like listen i know i travel this is good for you guys yeah i know what

happens out here yeah yeah yeah but what i thought was the dopest part of it wasn't that he just went and found snow it's that i knew he was cultured enough oh to go look for it he's the snowboards yeah no it was that he wanted to show his openers that yeah yeah like he took a whole day spent whatever. Y'all get in the car, I want y'all, y'all gonna see what, and Nod's country, I'm like, god damn, it's your man, it's your homie.

I'm like, I'm like, god damn Nod, it's your daddy, shit. Nigga, my cup, my hands, trying to come with me, and I don't know what we're doing.

It was like a fucking upward bound trip

with the inner city kids. I watched over, they came and they showed him to the club, like, man, I ain't sure a car, I ain't no sight, no shit like that, man. Why do y'all really fuck, man? Anybody call me fuck, nigga, I'm gonna kill

i remember i went to his place in the bahamas and uh he took me to just like a he has a place

in the bahamas yeah yeah yeah that's where he flies back and forth that's one of the places

he'll go back and forth and like uh and and uh it's first of all it's funny like his level of clout in the bahamas like i came there with like cameras and shit because i was doing this like little vlog with him and i just wanted to like experience life with him whatever and uh they stopped us at customs and they're like you can't take cameras into the into the country like you need like a permit for this and i was like i was like man i'm just going to hang out with and i swear to god the customs person was like all right

only film him oh yeah this is it oh that's wow look at how clear that water is dude this is

recent i was narc you don't understand like he's taking me to places and i'm like there's no way I'm jumping in that pit. Yeah, this is this pit. He's like, yeah, just jump in. You're going to be good. Yeah, he won't do it first.

He wants you to trust his word. Like, if he jumps, he'll be like, all right, fuck it, let's go. Look, I get a little...

The tree is too mad. Come on, man.

So you just want me to go?

Yeah, use the rope.

Yeah, jump.

I don't like how that rope looks. I'm just butchering.

That a Shane Gillis rope?

Man, it's not too cold. It's age of the green. You got your shirt off. How deep is it? It's about 50 feet. You're not going to touch the bottom.

I just want to put a little more water in it.

That's a great... Some coming?

Hey, maybe nobody say your name. There's somebody coming.

Don't nobody know your white ass here on this black ass island. Nobody's going to say Chelsea.

Don't want it, man.

Maybe they'll go first. Maybe we'll just make sure that nobody... Ain't nobody here but us. It's not weird that nobody is here?

Why are we the only ones in this beautiful shit, bro? Come on. Because I don't let everybody know where it's at.

Jump.

Jump.

This is hysterical. Bitch, we've been ready. Jump.

Yeah.

He did it.

He did it. He jumped. He never put a blunt down.

Now you got to climb the wall with cramps on you. You didn't tell me that fucking part. You didn't tell me that shit at all.

Oh, man. What day of the week is this? It's the weekday, obviously. Yeah.

we work so but this is years ago man yeah but he's got that part figured out like that right there this is inspiration I have I have to have more fun I'm a

he's gonna live his life I'm a worker you're gonna work you're gonna work I'm the same way but it's like if you don't live you got nothing to talk about facts and like he will prioritize living his life and enjoying shit and he'll just be on a dock on his property smoking weed looking at the fucking stars just enjoying shit getting emotional looking at the stars He had me just sitting there with him looking at the stars. I don't smoke. Maybe I should like. He didn't either. You know, he didn't do it. He didn't smoke or drink or anything like that. I don't think he drinks anymore, but he didn't smoke. And then one day he's like, yeah, I think I'll smoke now. He's the most fascinating person you've ever been.

But I watch people do it and then they get off track. You need to have discipline in terms of like what you're going to do. Or you have to be the type of person that can smoke and then still do stuff. I can't. Which I think he is.

He is. I can't.

I'm a vegetarian. You can do stuff. I just go full vegetable.

You can do shit. you smoke you made a whole play out of a lamp oh yeah i took an edible when we were in portland and then i started recreating the pixar theme with the lamp okay you know how the but you made the lamp a character the lamp was the character in pixar and i thought it was the funniest shit ever i literally i was like i think i got five new minutes bro and then the next day they showed me a video of me and i was like man i'm retarded like i am the most retarded i could never do it

again oh i was so i wondered people tell me it matters which one you do right like they say in the couch yeah i'm always in the couch i never smoked weed and i got energy yeah i one time i did a sativa and i was creative but everything that i made up was like trash yeah but it was hilarious in it so i understand yeah but there's people that are just like always they're always on it always and i just can't like my uncle's like that he's i my entire life i've never seen him sober

You're saying, like, he can still be functional in his own one?

Yeah, he owns a landscape and architect company. But I've literally never seen him that high. He's always been high.

I mean, that is the type of company to own if you like weed. Yeah, he's out there pushing the mullet straight.

But he still has to negotiate and go get paid and do all the things and run a business. But I'm telling you, my whole life, I'm really kind of having an epiphany right now. I've never seen Dennis not high. Wow.

Bro, you got to do a weekend with Duval in the Bahamas, man. Really? It's weird to say, but it's just like he's like a Sherpa in a way. Like you just talk to him for like two hours and your mind will be fucking blown. Just a wise guru. Also, like no judgment. Like anything that you think.

Yeah.

There's not this. You know some people are kind of like critical or judging. Yeah. He will assess it through you being honest about that feeling. and then you feel incredibly comfortable sharing because you're not worried about being judged for this thing that you're feeling

right

like he might like disagree with her and be like oh that's from this but he won't be like you're bad because of that

or you're good I think if you say a certain thing he might be like I can't go for that he absolutely would no but I I like Lil Duval he's one of the people that's what I'm saying there's inspiration everywhere like but what was the trip and I really wanted to know like where did because Matt just was like, get on TikTok. People will write off whatever I've done and be like, he must have sat you down and gave you the keys to the city. I'm like, what the keys? I had to literally figure out what the hell was going on in the app. Absolutely. But for him, I saw it on a post recently where he was like, yeah, shout out. It was because it's so cool. Yeah, yeah. So I wanted to know what it was. I wonder where Russ's was. Or is Russ our... He might be the... You think Russ is the pure source? He could be the pure source. He's been independent so long.

Someone got to inspire him, you know? Someone's got to inspire. Everybody's going to have an inspiration. You know what I mean? Like, somebody inspired Steve Jobs. There's somebody that's the original thing. Adam. Probably. Outside of Adam. Eve was tripping, man. Like, Eve didn't have the discipline, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Like, Adam was locked in. Adam was happy. Adam was living life. Eve needed more. He was Duval. He was Duval.

We're Eve. Right. You know, we're working seven days a week. Right. But I think the creativity, like, there is somebody that, you know what I mean? Like, even if you trace the Steve Jobs things, like, you can be as motivated as you want or inspired by Steve Jobs. But if you can't code, you're just going to be wearing black v-necks. Like, what is the thing that inspires you? I think where did Russ get the, like, you were like, I'm going to put comedy online. And I'm going to do it at this frequency. and i'm going to uh like i'm gonna be i'm gonna care i'm gonna post material i'm gonna post whatever i'm gonna post if it's funny it's going online i'm not gonna hold back no more according

to this article i still hold a lot i had material because i would go i was like a road dog i would go to a new

market every year and i always wanted to do new yes so like i had an hour or more of stuff i wasn't doing anymore because next time i go to columbus i don't want to give them the same show right because there might be 40 people there that saw it so i was able to put some stuff out and then the reason i started doing more of the crowd work stuff was because i could generate i can continue putting it out this is i'm sure why you do it versus you know material why everybody does it and uh but yeah and then like volume is probably the game right now for better for worse

i don't know i think there's been a shift talk to me within the last 15 days oh i like this i think that you can get more traction right now if you don't throw everything at the wall if you throw the best moment and wait because if my thing is i want to put one to two videos out a day the quality like it just is what it is yeah now if i hold and i go okay out of 13 shows in brooklyn give me the craziest two moments and so then i just post once a week like the quality of that clip will go i'm happy with the level of quality i'm hitting even at this quantity but it's exponential if i go if i tell my whole team we aren't pushing for one a day what we'll get if i go just give me the best video for a week and you can scrape everything from the last five months they're coming back with monstrosities like it just there's just been some moments you know i mean that's that's what i think uh that's what i think it's always been i don't because i went to

tiktok and they're like just keep just keep on bouncing well i think what happened with me when we blew up on tiktok i had all these people on tiktok hadn't seen years of stand-up that was already on already on instagram and on youtube right right so then it got to flood tiktok so we have to flood with heat but i'm doing snapchat now exactly never been on there so it's like you get to flood with all your super a plus yes and that stuff works cross-platform because it's good yeah it's great regardless all the shit even where man i posted some clip randomly that was

just old recently and it just went crazy same thing happened to me but it was um um the brooklyn improv just took a clip they liked collab me on it and it went nuts again because great shit works

and great shit will cut through when there's a lot of slop out there tell me what you think about this talk to me the blues clues you know what i'm talking about no like i know the show okay yeah so

but what people don't realize about the show because we're adults and we just put it on to walk out the room is that they play the same episode all week long yeah yeah every episode

and the kids really the kids actually

so by like by Friday I think it was in a Malcolm Gladwell book I'm not so I don't want to act like this I'm psyched but anyway so by Friday yeah the kids are literally standing in front of the TV reciting the episode with and we were watching like what do you mean where's the iron it's right but the kids are like on Monday they can't even see it Tuesday it's going to be on this side of the screen by Wednesday they're up touching the screen pointing by Thursday they're like they're yelling while they're introducing the segment you got kids no you gotta put it on not in them put it on them not in them go ahead

new song coming soon no the uh what happens is like uh when you read a kid a book like they're like getting used to the book it's books are like music to them or tv shows are like music they want to hear it more right with us i think our brains are so developed like after you read it once you're like i don't need to read this again i've already digested it i'm with you on this But, like, so Blue's Clues figured that out with kids. They're like, yo, we don't got to need a new one every single time. They actually prefer to milk that shit the whole week. It will drive parents crazy, but the kids will like it. But I think the familiarity.

But so also I notice if I'm in a movie, the scene that people laugh the hardest at is the one that was in the trailer. It's obnoxious. I'm like, we saw that for four months. Why are you? But that's why they put it in the trailer. which I get but it's not that they're not laughing because they haven't seen it before they're laughing because they're like oh there's a familiarity with that what do you mean you people then Tropic Thunder like we saw that for six months then went to the theater then the moment happened and you laughing like oh that's from oh that's from it's a nostalgia it becomes music facts yeah but what if we shifted and did that with this week's gonna be this bit and I'm gonna drop that every day bro this has happened like

I mean that's like the TikTok music play Which is like, hey, let me just drop the same part of the song Over and over Three times a day with maybe a different voiceover Maybe a different thing Like they changed the visual stimulus But it's the same part of the song

But there's a girl that blew a song up by playing it She posted, I think she said 2,200 times straight This is what Yeah, this is what And then like the 1700s one was the one that went viral It just caught the right wave Yeah Yeah, so there is a familiarity aspect

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he says he dropped 11 projects none of them broke through and all of his albums were getting buried but then he saw people that had singles that would catch on yeah and so he was like let me just drop singles every single week and then i'm just gonna drop single after single and according to him that was the thing that that inspired the idea i also think when you reach critical mass

there is an important play which is like now less can be more so when you reach the point like you're already beyond it i think that less but high quality stuff or incredibly random thing like you said there's something to happen with like an amputee in a crowd or whatever like that it's just such a random concoction of events that it's like really special and i think that that does work because now you don't need to like introduce yourself to people as much now it's a reminder

and you're bringing new people in with heat right but i'm i'm facts but i'm looking at the the five people I see posting the most content right now and I think that there is schools of thought on it like I think I think I think maybe Ali posts once every two week a stand-up bit I think Mojo's doing one a week and here I am throwing like five a day just yeah so maybe

there's a version where she's like well what is the what is the tip of the spear well I think

there's it's a risk to me I think because somebody can be like let's see what the all the hype is you know crowd work whatever let me check out nate jackson and then they see one that's not a banger banger and they're like oh that's not even you know what i'm saying did you just hurt a ticket or help a ticket but i'm confident that like one will get you to go like that and see the

next one well that's the other thing it's like more shots on goal is more goals right and it's only going to take one of those to go crazy and then you can also let the algorithm decide too which is like if it's not that good not that many people will see it if it's crazy a lot of people will see it so there is that version of it i can archive it too like that it's not ready

but you know what i used to be able to do which i think we all can be like once you get a feel for the audience or you you'll be like we got a banger yeah oh we got a bet you know like wait till we post this one with this lady where she whatever right yeah and you would post it and then it would do what you thought it would do yeah and now there's a disconnect now you're like i know I got a banger you put that one on there and that it might it might just like barely and then you're like oh man just post the next video and then that one go crazy yeah I'm in the comments of the one going crazy but look at the last one though no y'all got it wrong yeah they didn't

get this one right and that's where it's like putting out the things that you're proud of or you think are really fun or you think are really interesting ideally can be the thing that offers and satisfaction.

But I almost want to like keep the, this is what I'm thinking. I want to keep the consistency that we're at because that's what I pay people to do. But I think like putting like a gold ribbon on ones that I'm like, this one's a little nutty. I think might be something. Maybe it's like a watermark or something.

Maybe. And you kind of hedge it. Or it's a specific day where you drop like, Friday is, this is the clip of the week.

Right. And then they have all week to whatever to get it. Yeah.

Yeah. And I saw you on your YouTube channel, you have comedy just going for 24-7. When did you start that? Yeah, that's a new thing. You like that? Yeah.

Do you know what you're talking about? Yeah. They just hit me up, the people that do it. And I was like, who do you already work with? And they were like, we work with Ali Sadiq. And I was like, what does he play on there? Because he has so many specials.

You just run the old stuff.

You treat it like TV. Yeah, but what I didn't like, because Ali's long form. He's storyteller. Yeah, yeah. So I feel like because I'm such a quick clip, it's like Chive TV. You know, you go sit in the bar and you see the guys, like, all the little tricks and all that. Like, when you go to the bar and you watch the blooper reels, that's Chive TV. So I feel like if I have a ton of four-minute snippets, like, I would be perfect in the live space. Can you go to my YouTube real quick? Yeah, it's up right now. I was like, oh, shit. Oh, no, I know it's live. I mean, we basically took all my crowd work joints. It's been maybe three months.

It's also a good monetization thing. It's like you're getting ads throughout the entire day.

Well, we'll see, but I mean, it's just always on. And then they're commenting. They're going. What I'm trying to get them to do is enable Super Chat over there. So that, you know what I'm saying? Which is what I thought the green comments were. I opened it one day and was like, you mean they all pay me a dollar? But they're in there talking. I mean, I don't, does it say how many people are in there right now? Look at this nice white audience shot. No live. 214 people watching right now. That's crazy to me. Wow. Imagine if 214 people were sitting right there. Wow. Like, you're like, oh, this podcast is pet. But there's, there you go. But look at that. I don't know where we are, but that's my crowd makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

It's fascinating. Okay, you want to rip through a couple more films? Yeah, let's do it. All right, this is, I mean, the white people doing white shit. But I don't know if you saw this. This is fucking a wild clip. This is a woman in Austria paragliding. I think I did it for plane. That's it. She's flying around.

Oh, shit. Yeah, I did see that. It's so crazy that even though I said that, it's still crazy.

Pulls out the emergency parachute. Yeah. The emergency parachute is not amazing.

Is it ripped up? The first one? Yeah. No, the emergency. Oh, no, that's a cloud. The emergency one is the white one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, bro. That's fucking terrifying.

And then you got to figure out how to land with the emergency one. Oh. Your emergency shoot's not going to slow you down as fast. So you're just landing. How old is she? Hard. She's not a young lady, huh? Yeah.

This is how married I am. I'm enjoying those moans. I was going to say

she's not making enough noise I would have been like whoo survival so those grunts did something oh yeah that got across my leg nice to hear

you got to rub it right away

she didn't fake that landing her ass hurts for real she's going to feel that for a while

wow that's what it sounds like alright one more and then we get out of here my man

yo that's crazy crazy right yeah And she survived, and then the people in the plane were apparently fine, and they're doing an investigation on how the fuck that happens.

There's a lot of space up there to get in an accident. That's what I'm saying. That's intentional.

This was a clip that was a century. It also shows how fast planes are going.

Bro, this guy cracks me up, man. What's the name of this? There's a name. Derek? Is it Derek something?

Let me find it. What's his name? David. David.

David understood our comedy.

Pause, pause

So what he does is He can do every accent pretty much And he can also like fake speak the language But he's not saying anything

Okay

And he walks up to people And then he starts fake speaking their language

Right

And then that's the video And he does it with every You walk up to Chinese people He'd fake speak Chinese And nobody hit him? Not because they're trying to figure it out They see a white guy speaking Chinese

And they hear enough to be like, I think you should have to.

You'll see it right from the beginning.

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Feelings, no facts. This is a, I mean, this, F.A. sent this one in because he wanted you to see it.

Okay.

It's a woman who's at an event and sells feed juice. So she has a sign that says feed juice for sale. She dunks her feet in here, and then people drink up the feed juice.

Nah, this gives up for the bad name, bro. This is. Wait, what do you mean us? Just the people who enjoy feet.

Oh, you a foot guy? He's one of those. I thought I was until I saw that. Yeah, this is nice. This gives perspective.

I mean, when you say you're a feet guy, what's that mean? I don't like to do anything to them, but I just think they got to look nice. Yeah, for sure. Like, I don't like you to grow fucked up feet.

Like, back in the day. Yeah, but this is a lot.

No, this is weird. But let's just say you saw, like, a very attractive woman and she had bad feet.

You not smashing? No, boomerang.

Boomerang, Al.

Does that mean you smashing? No, it's a movie.

Eddie Murphy. Oh, no.

He gets with Robbie Gibbons and she's crazy bad and then he pulls back the covers and her feet are just like... Can't do it. And you won't do it. Yeah. No, that wasn't her feet. That was Iva LaShawn's... No. Either way. I remember the woman. A beautiful woman. He laid in the bed and he was literally like, let me see the cover. And when they pulled back, she had like your feet. And so then he sneaks out of the bed and out of the room. But that's what you would do? I want attractive feet. Yeah, we. No, I still do it. Are you one of them brothers that's like, you ain't smashing the feet like what if i want to i ain't touching the feet what if i do want to

smash no i'm not touching the feet like if the body's right like that's you know if everything else is for wifey for wifey or just like for one night obviously who cares like no you one night if they had bad feet you wouldn't even oh when i was in argentina i was looking for a girl who's missing a finger like if you're there for just like an amount of time no but like if it's wifey Like obviously you're going to have to look at those things all the time.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we on the safe page.

This guy brought up an interesting hypothetical. Would you rather be a 5'2 white dude or a 6'5 black dude?

Ooh. 5'2 is pretty short. Yeah, 6'5 black dude.

Yeah.

Yeah. What would you rather be, Nate?

Never thought of that. I don't know the life of a 5'2 white guy. What, is it just rejection everywhere?

Yeah. But you might not get harassed by police as much. You know what I mean? You won't. You might get... You are the police.

There's gotta be a cop. I'm kind of liking this journey I'm on here and what I got. But that is interesting. So is heightism worse than racism? No. Yeah. Because, no.

Boy, you'd rather be a 6'5 black dude than a 5'5 black dude.

I can't tell how tall he is in his car. Fair. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can't tell. He can wear heels. Yeah, that's true. He can put on a boot.

He can't wear heels as a guy, man. No, they got those heeled boots.

Yeah, who would ever do that?

Yeah, you know, shots. They're going to wear some legs now.

Give you a little extra. It's not wrong with that. 5'2 is crazy. 5'2 is tough. There is a number where you do it, but like 5'2 is crazy.

All right, would you like to be a 5'2 black guy? You can't be Duvall or Kevin Hart.

Hold on, 5'2 black guy or 5'2 white guy?

Nope. Just a 5'2 black guy and there's no or. Just a third one.

The third one is, so I could be a 6'5 black guy, a 5'2 white guy, or a 5'2 black guy.

Or a 7-foot Asian.

Oh, that's fire. A 7-foot Asian is kind of lit, to be honest with you.

7-foot Asian, 100%.

Yeah. Yeah? Even though you have the smallest dick out of everybody on the list.

But it's 7-foot, it's for Asian dick, you're the biggest.

No, it's small for Asian dick.

You're adding another caveat to this. It doesn't have a downside.

Why wouldn't we all want to be the gigantic Asian man? There's no bad side.

Gigantic Asian guy with a pretty big dick, but it's not big for seven feet, but it's pretty big. No.

Micropenis. This is... Micropenis is terrible. Fuck it. Yeah, you're a gigantic Asian. Yeah. Pinky toe. Nah. I love feet.

I love feet. This has a tough one for me. Seems like I just got more foot. Yeah. You got an extra toe. That's kind of nice. I can't do micropenis even if you're 7 foot Asian because what's the point

but you go to the league if you're a 7 foot Asian and you sell your jersey all over China

yeah but you got a micropenis now that's crazy now what would you do you gotta be 5'2 black dude right

yeah

with a massive hog

that's not bad that's what they keep saying about Kevin Hart you got a piece yeah that's what I for the whole week of the roast yeah I kept seeing all these videos by what's the white guy that paints his nails that was on the roast?

Big Jay Oakerson.

Big Jay Oakerson kept on dropping videos about how big Kevin's dick is. Really? Yeah, I just, all week I was like, hey, yo, come on, come on, Farouk. You got a different algorithm.

What's your algorithm, man? I didn't see any of those videos.

I don't know. I just saw Chelsea Handler whining. I thought as much stuff about roasts as I could see. Yeah. And so I just got, I was like, and that's enough. I saw everything now.

On the topic of uncomfortable hypotheticals, and this might maybe even be a good place to really try to focus in our energy. Okay, okay, go. This is what people are talking about outside of the Knicks stadium. I would let Jalen Brunson sleep with my girl, my mother, my sister. I'd let him sleep with anyone he asks for. Would you let Jalen Brunson sleep with your girl for the Knicks to win it all? For the Knicks to win it all? Yes.

Would you let Jalen Brunson sleep with your girl for the Knicks to win it all? I'd let him sleep with his girl. I would let Jalen Brunson sleep with his girl.

So this is the question. Nah, nah. For the Knicks to win it all, bro.

Nah. I'm going 42 years without it, man. It's not like you're not used to it. It's not like I'm a championship. I got too used to it. I'm unfortunately comfortable with it. Sleep with your girl is crazy. There was one where a dude says that he would take strokes. He would take a backstroke. He would take back. Black dude, by the way. This is promise, bro. Nah, but he's from Jersey.

Wait, wait, wait. What's that got to do with anything? There's no way. What's that got to do with anything? There's just no way. You're telling me Jersey's more progressive than New York? There's just no way in New York. Are they gayer in New Jersey? Nah, they're way gayer here. A black New Yorker would not say that. So he's not claiming that. I think New Yorker's gay, but a black New Yorker did say it.

He did.

Nah. You just put it on Jersey. Yeah.

But no, I think Jersey's like a few years back. I don't know if they're playing with the gay fund yet. Think? Nah. New York, New York is there. White boy fund has crossed into black culture in New York.

How do you feel about white boy fund? You know how they, all the dick stuff. Um, you gotta get used to it. But like, who taught you about it? I'm from...

Washington State. So the Whites introduced him. Our football team was not checking. Really? Yeah, they were like, run down to the goalpost and come back. And on the way back, if somebody's bullish, he's like, the coach would see it like, stop. Like, it was the whole thing. Stop, not checking. It really played. So did you grow up with it? The quarterback was not checking the center. He couldn't even run a play. So hold on. So did you grow up with it and it was normal, or did you get introduced to at a certain point in time and then you had to acclimate? It was just normal. From what I remember, like middle school, high school, like people would just be playing too much. Now, did you ever play with other black dudes that didn't know anything about it? And they're like, you know, what is going on? Nah, as a matter of fact, I remember very distinctively Big Irish Jay, a comedian from Boston that's in Vegas now. He still plays like that to this day. And he'll get you. Like, you're like, oh my God, I can tell you this. Fucking my left, not only, it's ridiculous. but he came to something where it was like it was like a pretty urban function and he was in there on that same energy and I was like man seriously like this is not we're not doing that today like full on truce no nut jacks truce he sure has to call it truce it's the death jam after party please I got on a tux he's like this is the best time I know the shiny right now I'm like Jay I swear to God if you hit me in my nuts in this goddamn party. We can't be friends anymore. He's like, yeah, no, no, it's cool, it's cool. Jay! They don't care. No, they don't. Okay, before we go, I want you to let us know about the thing that you were recreating. Oh, Comedy Jam? Yes. Yeah, so I did Comedy Jam because I felt like it was needed. It's been a very, very long time since we've had a structured show with micro sets. And so I brought 54 to 56, I'm not sure, something like that. I think it was 54 comics, flew them out to the club, spent about $160,000. You did it all at your club? I did. Wow. Yeah, so it's intimate, and it's there, and nobody had a bad set. And it sounds great, looks great. It's the same team that I did my Netflix special with. So there's a lot of people that should see a needle push, even if it's just to give them some phenomenal content. Where are you putting it out? What's the plan? Your channel? Yeah, my team is actively trying to sell it right now. But I was like, no matter what you do, this is going to be on my YouTube. Yeah. So I don't know how, I don't know what that handshake looks like, but it's going to have to, like, maybe it drops simultaneously. Or the TV one says, go look at this or something. But it's going on my YouTube. Started with that intention. So it's called the Super Funny Comedy Jam. And it's starring 54 of the funniest comedians in the country. Who are some names?

um smoky suarez smoky rob stapleton rob um tony roberts yeah uh i mean names i think people would i mean ryan davis did it ryan's great man um uh reg that just did he was in the finals on It was funny AF, Black Ron, Just Niche, Clayton Thomas, Martin Amini. This really funny white dude I've seen when I did a showcase in D.C. named Matt something. He was really good. I'll have to look it up, and maybe I'll shoot it to you so you can look at what his name was. But no, it was just great. We did three or four comics per episode. How many shows did you do to film everything? Wow. I wanted to do 10, and then I was like, I'll do an 11th, because I just couldn't keep saying no to certain people. And so then I was like, all right, well, the 11th one will be my pilot if I'm going to take it out or whatever. And then my team was like, no, just go out with 11 of them. Yeah, why not? I'm always better. We'll see. So we'll see. I mean, we're going to see if there's a network that wants it or whatever. But everyone right now keeps on saying, like, oh, no, we don't want that format for comedy. right like well it's in the top five our top is the top five on Netflix right now it seems to be doing all right yeah you don't want short-form comedy yeah wow but I just remember when we came up you could watch comic view premium blend you could watch Def Jam you go there was always something where you could see and then just for the last 25 years there hasn't been anything really yeah nothing that's stuck like Def Jam had a chance but then Russell got the me too so then they swept it under the rug and so it's that's the that's the uh that's the itch that gets scratched with this and so i'm hoping that it moves the needle for some people at least it puts them in a conversation to be doing clubs to make some money to possibly you know build some money on their tables yeah that's it and so uh super funny comedy jam and if anybody's interested in the comedy club it's nate jackson super funny comedy club in tacoma washington in. Biggest black-owned comedy club in the country. Shout out to you. Yeah, Tommy Davidson's coming here soon. Oh, legend. Yeah, we have a time. Can you click view all at the bottom? Yeah, so let's see what we got coming so people can be proud of us. Hey, Fionn. Tricks from Funny AF, Tiffany Haddish, Tim Tropshire, Funny Marco. Oh, great, dude. I just ripped Michaels, Bill Bellamy Bill Bellamy so we do the opposite so go to hell, bam Rosebud Baker so once a month we have a white house and that will pay the bills for all the blacks to come

I want, and to be honest with you I want the most diverse lineup possible, and when I say diversity I don't mean hella black people I mean I want everyone we can see on the screen that should be we don't need this many it looks like an NAACP meeting it's hella black people but the agents assume because it's black owned those are the clients that they read off to me and then people just don't take it serious because it's not a big chain club our text message from 6 years ago has an offer in it from me to him great offer I came strong strong as you can come from jersey i don't want to put i don't want to put it out there because he might have less strong offers you can say i'm full transparency i talk money yeah yeah you're gonna it would sell out like that come work on some shit yeah it's nothing you hang out with good people i definitely want to see some snow if you want hell hell hell you know what i'm saying but um yeah and those kind of offers are out for particular people that i'm a fan of or inspired by And we've had a few, but then other, you know? Yeah. So just, I don't know what it takes to crack through the noise of all the different places people can perform and all that stuff, but we do well. So, but I just want to see more people that I'm already, like, like, I think people will get it. Like, Dave was at the Netflix brunch, and he was like, I'm going to come to you, clap, man. Oh, that'd be fire. I think, yeah, but I also think, like, it makes people go, oh. There's a thing. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's exciting stuff. I appreciate you having me here Nate Jackson man everybody go check out Nate thank you bro thank you so much bro appreciate you man thank you bro