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The Big Drake Diss Everyone Missed, & The Fall of Chud the Builder
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The Big Drake Diss Everyone Missed, & The Fall of Chud the Builder

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May 20, 2026 | 01:49:40 | Comedy | Explicit

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YERRR the boys are back and so is Drake?? - Kendrick fallout, disappearing streams & rap recency bias - Rick Ross, J. Cole, & what does Khaled do now?? - Drake and Shane Gillis, Budden, & Lucian Grainge smoke - Kars4Kids conspiracies, AP watches, & the Knicks All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Cornstar takedown in Vegas? 11:47 DRAKE IS BACK 18:04 Hating just to hate + Recency bias 21:46 Going at Kendrick, Variety + Streams disappearing 28:25 What does DJ Khaled do? SAY IT + Scottish scandals 34:18 Rick Ross + Riri no posting ASAP Rocky? 37:30 Explaining lyrics to GF + Light w/ J Cole 40:01 Fighting Lucian Grainge + Ms Richie connection 46:33 Jay-Z/Pusha T, Dr Dre + LeBron bars 50:13 Budden & Drake love each other 52:30 MARK IS GLAZING + Shane Gillis in music video 55:47 White House edit + Drake's BACK 57:45 Chud the Builder arrested + Art vs Attention 1:04:47 Bail set at $1.25m + Words have real meaning 1:10:54 People willingly support + "Get over it" 1:14:00 People can be offended + Pleading to Adin Ross 1:18:06 Clav got mogged by Judge 1:19:11 Kars4Kids scandal + The Mascot 1:26:47 AP x Swatch, Fake watch market + Collabs 1:33:36 Genesis cars, Driving perceptions + Dollar van 1:38:28 Chinese Bus service 1:41:00 Knicks bustin that ass This episode is sponsored by Kalshi. This episode is sponsored by Sesh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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00:00:00 - 00:00:33 | Speaker 1:

what's up everybody and welcome to flagrant yes we're back okay finally for the first time this is for the first time we have we have not uh already done the podcast Alex is already hating on Drake which is pissing me off listen we're gonna get to the Drake stuff yeah we're gonna get to the Drake stuff relax you yeah you don't don't turn the fans off me just give it at least five minutes well can we get to Drake in one second we have an important story to tell we're We're just washed dads on the road doing comedy. Shout out to everybody in Salt Lake City. And a friend of ours will remain anonymous.

00:00:33 - 00:00:33 | Speaker 2:

Yes.

00:00:35 - 00:01:11 | Speaker 1:

A friend of ours will remain anonymous. Anonymous. Last tour was with us. Took down a porn star in Las Vegas and did not share this story with us. Okay. Yeah. So this is when I think I was out there too, right? I mean, if it was a fun city, I would imagine you would find it. Yeah. oh i gotta record a podcast in barcelana and they're like yo we're gonna be in vegas oh they got that that's totally fine you know we're gonna be in kansas city this weekend my la studio is getting renovated this is what happens though

00:01:11 - 00:01:47 | Speaker 2:

god we're not starting to pot over again believe it believe that name okay so a random anonymous front of ours uh says or told he's like yo thanks for uh thanks for letting me have your penthouse suite oh so nice he gets you he gets a penthouse suite at one of the casinos because he's performing there okay but what did i choose to do he had a red eye back to go see his family family man he's leaving and he has his penthouse suite for the night so he gives it to one of his friends he goes hey you can just have it so he finds a porn star that looks exactly like dove

00:01:47 - 00:01:53 | Speaker 1:

i don't think so i think she's hot to be honest no no she's she's a very attractive girl

00:01:53 - 00:01:57 | Speaker 2:

obviously she's very successful dove is that what you just said i mean this dove

00:01:57 - 00:02:23 | Speaker 1:

this dove's not bad she's a little manly like why are we starting out this uh mean this is a beautiful girl no beautiful and dove i think is a handsome guy yeah and when you get is also beautiful yeah beautiful so when you get to that level of handsome there's going to be a little bit of crossover dove was stacked like that i guess he kind of is but if he was was was yeah

00:02:23 - 00:02:49 | Speaker 2:

was was but he's telling us a story like kind of in passing definitely no chemical compound but he brings us a story just like oh yeah thanks by the way and all of us just like record scratch like what and he starts telling us the story he's like yeah you know i hooked up

00:02:49 - 00:03:15 | Speaker 1:

with a porn star you know in the penthouse and he's doing that classic thing that this specific friend that will remain nameless uh does where like he drops like the most interesting little tidbit and then like pretends to walk away from it you do the same show you do that Picks want to know him, my dog. Only Master knows another Master. Max, you do that shit. Come on. If you want to catch fish, you need bait. My boy.

00:03:16 - 00:03:51 | Speaker 2:

He'll be scrolling through his phone like, whoa, and just keep scrolling, just waiting for somebody to be like, yeah, what? What's the world? You do that shit. But he also loves that, though. Do you remember when we were doing the Netflix commercial, me and Miles were in one of the back rooms, and we were like, yeah, watch this, watch this, watch this. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then Scholes and me, they're going to say, what? You guys having fun in here? I'm like the neighbor from home to prove me. You got a little joy in there? Let me have some of that. But he starts telling us the story. And we're all so washed that we're just listening with so much intention. Yeah. And then we all start just slow playing. And we're like, no, tell us every detail.

00:03:51 - 00:04:23 | Speaker 1:

Can I just back up? He starts telling the story like a woman. He tells us he's like, yo, I hooked up with this porn star. And then he starts going into emotionally what he was dealing with. like he starts going to be like yeah i was so nervous because you know she's been with all these guys and we're like yeah nobody gives a flying fuck about your nerves or anxiety tell us how much coke you had to give her to get her up to the penthouse and then tell us what happened in the penthouse how much money that's the funny part it's more of a barter he met the

00:04:23 - 00:04:37 | Speaker 2:

two he met two porn stars together and then they were hanging out he was like yo am i about to Get the double up. And then one of them got a call that she had to tend to. She had to go to work. Okay. And then the other one, I guess, didn't get a call. Okay.

00:04:38 - 00:04:58 | Speaker 1:

Damn, that's kind of fucked up to put it that way, Mark. Well, I mean. That is messed up to put it that way. Is that how it happened? Is that how it happened? I mean, one had to work that day. I can't. I can't. The way we were saying it is, you know, one to charity. Sometimes you got to give back.

00:04:58 - 00:05:00 | Speaker 2:

She gave our friend a promo.

00:05:00 - 00:05:15 | Speaker 4:

code that's the way that's the way she got the flagrant 20 yeah yeah he got the promo code and so he redeemed it and got the the value of the the proposition but he starts any barter services

00:05:15 - 00:05:29 | Speaker 5:

no not at all they're just up there they're vibing okay but he's telling the story and he's talking about like what he's going through he keeps on like harping about this like we're up in the room and i don't know exactly what i'm talking about i'm like bro fast forward get us to the good part

00:05:29 - 00:06:00 | Speaker 4:

do you make out with her does she make the move whatever and he's like well we traded whatsapp numbers and then we were texting back and forth she sent me like an emoji and he's like keep going get through this part and schultz is like muhammad ali in fight camp just like he needs every detail explained to him by like the other people around you know just like every so at one point our friend is like yeah you know like i was i was looking out at the at the vegas you know skyline looking at this fear in this giant penthouse and uh she started sucking me off

00:06:01 - 00:06:13 | Speaker 1:

and she goes wait wait wait wait wait wait did she unbutton your pants or did you do it important important detail now yeah but he needed every single detail i'm not gonna lie i didn't

00:06:13 - 00:06:27 | Speaker 5:

want to tell you guys this i got a little hard ass i did i did i did i know i know i know not fully but like too much no no no because i was asking the question i wanted to know yeah that's I was towing the line, dude. Yeah. Oh, no. Towing the line. I was over the line.

00:06:27 - 00:06:32 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, but your friend's right there because you have to picture his dick in this scenario. I pictured it.

00:06:32 - 00:07:04 | Speaker 5:

And I made it bigger. I was very kind and generous to him in my mind as I was thinking about it. And we all wanted to know because it's a porn star, right? Like there's an expectation. If you play one-on-one with like Steph Curry, like you want to know where he's pulling from. and like we go when she went down did she do all the things or did she have like was it like a night off because I'm sure that they do it casually too there's a different level of performance when the cameras are on and the lights are on you're getting paid for it

00:07:04 - 00:07:08 | Speaker 3:

because if it's OnlyFans that's like an author that's self published

00:07:08 - 00:07:11 | Speaker 4:

this girl's studio this girl's studio

00:07:11 - 00:07:13 | Speaker 5:

this is not Dr. Umar's books

00:07:13 - 00:07:16 | Speaker 4:

that's what I'm saying

00:07:16 - 00:07:20 | Speaker 5:

this is the real Yeah, okay, a guy in the Schuster. Yeah.

00:07:23 - 00:07:24 | Speaker 4:

This is Random House.

00:07:24 - 00:07:25 | Speaker 5:

So she says she went for it.

00:07:26 - 00:07:26 | Speaker 4:

Yeah.

00:07:27 - 00:07:30 | Speaker 5:

Tried to eat the booty while he was standing.

00:07:31 - 00:07:32 | Unknown:

He.

00:07:33 - 00:07:52 | Speaker 5:

Come on, Miles. Come on, Miles. Tried to eat. This is a little early in the pod to even share something like this. Nah, you got me now. Tried to eat the booty while he was standing. I'm about to get rocked. See what I'm saying? Made him spread his legs like a cop, right? He did have spread the legs and he rejected the booty lick. Gay.

00:07:53 - 00:07:57 | Speaker 2:

Stop and frisk. Gay. Unless he's a little dirty.

00:07:57 - 00:08:12 | Speaker 5:

Of course he's dirty. They've been at a nightclub partying in Las Vegas, but the fact that she still went for it. Ow. I mean, it's like... He got one. I want one too. It's truly...

00:08:12 - 00:08:14 | Speaker 2:

That's yours for the F. That's yours for the F.

00:08:15 - 00:08:16 | Speaker 5:

Everything else is in.

00:08:18 - 00:08:27 | Speaker 3:

And then the funniest part. How do you turn that down from a porn star? That would have been probably the best, cleanest his ass would have ever been.

00:08:27 - 00:08:42 | Speaker 4:

Oh. Anyway. The funniest part is that he's in this penthouse suite with a whole panoramic view of the entire Las Vegas skyline. And he was like, yeah, dude, she was blowing me. It was awesome. And we were like, which way were you facing? Oh, yeah, because she put him up on the window.

00:08:43 - 00:08:52 | Speaker 5:

He got pinned up. So immediately I'm like, wait, wait, what? And I was like, your back is to the window? He's like, yeah. And I'm like, no.

00:08:53 - 00:08:58 | Speaker 4:

No, not at all. He was almost Patrick Bateman. He was like this close. He was like looking out on the city.

00:08:59 - 00:09:07 | Speaker 5:

She shouldn't have the view because she can't see anything. Exactly. It should be reversed. And then you're seeing the entire Vegas skyline. You're seeing the sphere. Oh, yeah.

00:09:08 - 00:09:14 | Speaker 3:

Everything. Then one arm on the glass. You know, it's a little support system. Come on. We've been there before. Come on.

00:09:14 - 00:09:26 | Speaker 5:

Massive fumble. I'm glad that we're thinking the exact same thing. I'm glad we're thinking the same thing. You can't turn it around. Listen, I think when you're in a situation like that, you're just trying to hold on for dear life.

00:09:26 - 00:09:28 | Speaker 3:

Son, you're a DP. Get your angles right, bro.

00:09:28 - 00:09:34 | Speaker 5:

What's DP mean? Oh. Those are the different meanings. It comes to this. Double montage.

00:09:35 - 00:09:36 | Speaker 1:

Okay, Drake.

00:09:37 - 00:09:41 | Speaker 4:

Okay, Drake. But yeah, that was our wonderful week in the solo.

00:09:42 - 00:09:45 | Speaker 5:

Imagine holding on to that story for two years and not telling your friends.

00:09:45 - 00:09:52 | Speaker 3:

right did he pipe yeah oh okay last one well that's the annoying part this

00:09:52 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 5:

he goes yeah you know like uh because we asked that i love how you're asking every question i love how you're asking

00:10:00 - 00:10:22 | Speaker 2:

exact same questions that we were asking right the important because we were like yo how long did it last and he was like well you have to understand like emotionally what i've been going through i'm gonna slap bro i'm getting frustrated we need this we needed it bad bro we needed it bad you know what number he threw out there how long he lasted he's like it was all right

00:10:22 - 00:10:40 | Speaker 1:

just guess the number that all right is knowing him i would have been like he probably said like 20 minutes or some shit like that bang on dude yeah it was almost like you were there with us that's crazy oh come on why you got a front you got a mediocre display of 20 25 yeah like and

00:10:40 - 00:10:46 | Speaker 2:

we're like that's the cumulative she don't got one video 25 minutes you just gave it a long

00:10:46 - 00:10:55 | Speaker 1:

that's a nut rest nut again right yeah yeah he said he said uh he said uh he said he had to play

00:10:55 - 00:11:05 | Speaker 2:

pool for like 15 minutes before they hooked up. And we were like, why? He goes, that blue chew ain't kicking. He literally did the ad. He did the ad.

00:11:07 - 00:11:16 | Speaker 1:

He needed the blue chew gold. I know, it wasn't invented yet. Any other questions that you're ruminating on? Did he circle black?

00:11:16 - 00:11:36 | Speaker 2:

No, we asked the same thing. Have you circled the block? And he said no. It is really amazing how we have the exact same curiosity. There's only 10 questions, I guess. Yeah, but, like, all of us wanted to know the exact same thing, and somehow when he was communicating it, none of these things were answered. Like, I almost wanted him to tell you the story without you asking questions.

00:11:36 - 00:11:39 | Speaker 1:

I really was getting frustrated at, like, the level of, like, come on, man.

00:11:39 - 00:11:43 | Speaker 2:

Because I would get hard, and then it would soften up again, and I would get hard, and it would soften up again.

00:11:43 - 00:11:46 | Speaker 1:

At the place, pool. Yeah. Yeah, dude.

00:11:46 - 00:11:48 | Speaker 2:

Anyway, y'all listening to that, Drake?

00:11:49 - 00:11:50 | Speaker 1:

Iceman is out.

00:11:50 - 00:11:51 | Speaker 2:

The Iceman cometh.

00:11:52 - 00:11:52 | Speaker 1:

Yep.

00:11:53 - 00:11:58 | Speaker 2:

Listen, I know there's a lot of you guys out there that have been dying for us to review this triple album.

00:11:58 - 00:12:00 | Speaker 1:

Yes, our rap take is very influential.

00:12:00 - 00:12:41 | Speaker 2:

Our rap take is very influential in the hip-hop community. I know the asshole army really wants to hear it. I mean, if you're just thinking about it, we have a black guy, we have a white guy, and we have a guy that everyone seems to think is Jewish. So together, we are probably the most qualified group. We're Drake. We are Drake. We're Drake, bro. At the end of the day, we're Drake. I'm Iceman. I mean, facts. I think you're Iceman. I think I'm made of honor. I think you're Habiti. You're definitely Habiti. Yeah. You're definitely Habiti. Yeah. You know, fuck you guys. How about that? How about that? That's so Habiti. Yeah, right? That's so Habiti. Listen, we got to talk about it. What did you think?

00:12:41 - 00:12:43 | Speaker 1:

I want to hate, but Drake is back, bro.

00:12:44 - 00:13:00 | Speaker 2:

Wait, wait. You don't want to hate. I said I want to hate. Oh, you want to hate, but Drake is back. Drake is back. It's heat, bro. Drake is back. Is he, like, it's fun to listen to, but if you're, like, a rap, rap, rapper, like, you like bars, it's crazy. Yeah.

00:13:00 - 00:13:35 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's crazy. And you know what it was? Drake's been on top for so long that it was just kind of fun for him not to be on top for a little bit. So we just had just some fun, even though I'm a Drake fan. But it was fun just to clown him for a bit. But he's back. If you hate on this album, you're just a hater. You're a hater. This shit is fun. Which one are you talking about? Iceman or all three? The whole girly shit, I haven't even touched that. Like, I played a couple songs on it. Habibdi? Two out of the three. That's good enough for me. Two out of three is insane. I mean, it's a lot of songs, bro.

00:13:35 - 00:13:53 | Speaker 2:

Sure, that's the thing. I think most people, and we were talking about this this weekend, I don't think most people have even really digested three. Yeah. I think they're like listening to Iceman and they've like jumped around songs on the other two. So I think there'll be other songs that start to pop up from the other two. But Iceman got some slaps.

00:13:54 - 00:14:16 | Speaker 1:

Biggest win, Toronto. Talk to me. They finally have some pride back. Because that's all they had. The Weeknd. He barely claims them. He's always in LA. You think he's more LA? Yeah. He's more LA. But he's still theirs. Yeah. He's still theirs. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, now they got pride again. They're smiling. They weren't smiling for a good two years.

00:14:16 - 00:14:50 | Speaker 2:

And I don't like them down. Like, Canadians are their best when they feel good, happy. Like, they were getting bullied by Trump with the 51st stage shit. Like, they were just going through a lot of, like, torture. We beat them at hockey. That's how bad they were. If he dropped this album before that game, we might have a silver medal. We might have a silver medal, man. Yeah. I thought it was fire. But I'm also a Drake Glazer, admittedly. Why is he glazing to appreciate the person who's the best at the thing? Am I a Michael Jordan glazer?

00:14:50 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 1:

No. Yeah. I was talking to him a little bit before the pod. And so the one that where he sounds like Kodak Black. And I'm like, would you like it?

00:15:00 - 00:15:04 | Speaker 2:

if somebody went on stage dressed like you and told the jokes exactly like you do it if it was

00:15:04 - 00:15:09 | Speaker 4:

right no you don't think he got the co-sign from kodak for that one it's not about that it's like

00:15:09 - 00:15:28 | Speaker 2:

either have a feature with him on the song don't just steal his sound and his flow but wasn't he locked up whatever so then don't do it god it's just a weird thing to do like it sounds like him it's the same flow the flow is identical to the what was the transport yeah the transport song

00:15:28 - 00:15:43 | Speaker 4:

that Kodak did. Do you think we were trying to get you? I just got to watch out. Yeah, just watch out. I thought that was fine. I thought Chivaldi's was good. I thought... What? Nah. You saw that one? You saw that one? You didn't get that. It was too quick.

00:15:43 - 00:15:47 | Speaker 2:

You got to sandwich it in with something. You can't just... I tried to. I didn't even get the other

00:15:47 - 00:17:10 | Speaker 4:

part of the bun on it yet. Shut it down immediately. All right, guys. Important announcements. June 5th and 6th will be at Virginia Beach for shows. We'll also be August 8th in Halifax, Nova Scotia for a show out there. Great Outdoors Fest, fantastic. And also, we're doing something really good for the world, okay? June 4th, the Life Paddle Classic. We partnered up with NeuroGum and the IVF charity that I've been working with, BabyQuest. Amazing charity. Shout out to BabyQuest. They do incredible work helping people start families that are dealing with obvious financial constraints that come with IVF. But NeuroGum has set this thing up. You go to NeuroGum.com slash pages slash Schultz. You buy that dad bundle. It's got your wake-up mints. It's got your go-to-sleep mints. It's got everything you possibly need. And all the proceeds from the entire event are going to go to BabyQuest. And if you're not able to show up to the event and you just want to support, go get some NeuroGum as well. Because all the proceeds from that link right there that I just told you about are going to be going to them. And there's also a button that's going to be on that website where you can just donate directly to BabyQuest. Again, you'll be changing people's lives. It's an absolutely amazing thing that you could donate to. So that event's going to be taking place at Paddle House Dumbo, Thursday, June 4th, 1 p.m. to 5 p.m. Come hang out. Come play. Enjoy the day. And shout out to NeuroGum and BabyQuest.

00:17:10 - 00:17:28 | Speaker 3:

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00:17:28 - 00:18:02 | Speaker 2:

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00:18:32 - 00:18:51 | Speaker 3:

No, I thought it was fire. And I think people have been wanting to clown on it. And like there's bars that people are like pulling out and being like, oh, this sucks. I don't know. I just feel like the whole Kendrick Drake thing, just people being like, yeah, I wanted to hate on Drake for a year. I'm like, all right. It just feels lame to me that people want to just hate on him just because they want to hate.

00:18:51 - 00:19:48 | Speaker 4:

I mean, it is super lame, but that is kind of how we act towards people who have immense success for long periods of time. Yeah. Like, I remember Jordan going through it. Yeah. Like, Jordan was obviously the best player in the league, and there are people that are saying, ah, but he's never going to be magic. He's never going to be burned. It's like, yeah, he's better than both of them. You know, so there is this, like, natural reaction. and you almost need to see somebody suffer so that you can celebrate them. We're very weird like that. And the people that manage suffering, meaning they share a lot of their suffering, are easier to root for. Have you noticed that? But the people who just crush it is harder to just celebrate. Are you celebrating someone who's only winning? Fucking everybody's girl, making tons of money, putting out the best music? Like, yeah, there's a natural human instinct, I guess, and it sucks that we have it in us to kind of pull that person down. But if you're being objective, he's nice at the thing.

00:19:49 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 3:

And so many, like, albums aside, just so many good songs over such a long period of time. Like, what, 12 years? Yeah, this has been the greatest run in hip-hop.

00:20:00 - 00:20:08 | Speaker 1:

Even if there's only one good song on the album, he's putting out good songs every single year for 12 years. I'm like, that alone is impressive.

00:20:09 - 00:20:35 | Speaker 2:

So here's my question. I have two. One, I want to know every one that he got at that I didn't even think he got at. Like, where are all the disses? Who are the craziest disses? Who are the disses to the people that it's not even really publicly known yet? And then two, does this erase the Drake Kendrick beef? let's start with two because yeah you don't start with two you don't think it erases it

00:20:35 - 00:20:49 | Speaker 3:

does it chip away from it no in in the same way that pusher t beat drake but drake came back with good music where it's like people aren't really talking about it anymore but it's still an l on

00:20:49 - 00:21:51 | Speaker 2:

his record yeah but we don't even i forgot he lost to pusher t i didn't like i again i'm more casual about it but like to me i think with music or with sports there's this recency bias where like you could get knocked out in a fight like for example francis and gano this past weekend before this francis and gano got knocked out by anthony joshua if i'm not mistaken in a boxing match he comes in this week and he fights a guy who's definitely a lesser opponent but he looks so unbelievably intimidating that you're just like yo this guy's the baddest man on the fucking planet ronda rousey too like ronda rousey was getting fucked up in the ufc i mean holly was a holly home i think knocked her out pretty easily and it's like then you see her just take out gina carano 15 seconds yes gina is much older hasn't fought in a long time but there is this recency bias in us for things and i wonder it's like if kendrick not dropping anything and he probably isn't and this is the last thing that we've seen is he back on top well i think to me this is just

00:21:51 - 00:22:15 | Speaker 1:

what I kind of expected him to do, which is like the same with Nas and Jay-Z. It's like, yeah, you lose the battle, but you win the war. And I think Drake is just going to win. It's all said and done 20 years from now. Drake will have won the war 10 times over. The difference with Nas and Jay-Z is that they're now both billionaires and friends. I don't think Drake and Kendrick will ever be friends. I don't think they're ever going to patch it up in 20 years and be cool.

00:22:17 - 00:22:21 | Speaker 2:

Decision to continue going at Kendrick in this. Right decision

00:22:21 - 00:22:31 | Speaker 1:

or wrong decision yeah you have to yeah i think if you avoid it it's like ah you you you acknowledge you lost you bowed out and that's it but i like that it wasn't like whole songs dedicated to it

00:22:31 - 00:22:37 | Speaker 2:

it was just like yo this beef is forever i'm gonna continue sunning you the whole album is

00:22:37 - 00:22:42 | Speaker 1:

kind of dedicated to it in a way but it's dedicated to everyone that shows up yeah yeah so it's him

00:22:42 - 00:22:56 | Speaker 2:

plus everyone it's not a specific diss track it's like a little bar here a little bar there If it's a specific diss track, then Kendrick might have to get back in the studio. But does he get back in the studio for a line or two?

00:22:57 - 00:22:58 | Speaker 3:

I think no.

00:22:59 - 00:22:59 | Speaker 2:

So it's almost.

00:23:00 - 00:23:27 | Speaker 3:

I'm not going to lie. Drake definitely played it good. Selfishly, I wish he had one song. Dedicated. Yeah, because I remember when, even after the Jay-Z Nas situation on Blueprint 2, Jay-Z just had a whole song just destroying Nas. and it's like people don't really talk about it but i'm telling you this was the hardest diss track of all of them sure but i love that so just as a fan of battle rap yeah i would have liked another

00:23:27 - 00:23:47 | Speaker 2:

one you would have liked as a fan but strategically it's like in the smart play you don't want kendrick to drop and then fuck up your rollout true because if you do some crazy shit kendrick drops now we're talking about the back and forth beef again and you just put out 45 songs and now you got to get back in the fucking studio it's like you want to do just enough where you're taking shots and he's

00:23:47 - 00:24:50 | Speaker 1:

not responding which is why i think the triple album is smart for a bunch of reasons it's like one i'm acknowledging everything that's gone on in the past two years so it's like that's iceman and then it's like i'm also going to put songs for the women kind of like the drake that you know that's like habiti and then here's where i'm gonna go and that's made of honor it's like kind of it's more experimental he's trying out different sounds and it's like pushing kind of like here's the next wave that y'all are going to jump on so he kind of does everything all at once like here's where i'm at here's the old me here's the new me and it's just flooding the plane and on top of that miles pointed this out to me michael jackson is the only artist to have three of his albums chart at the same time top three one two and three right after he died oh wow right after he dies he has the three albums chart he's the only artist to do it and drake it seems like he's making a push with this to try to do the same thing and the nod with the glove yeah apparently he's the guy who bought the glove yeah 150 000 for the for the diamond glove i thought that was kind of a steal right i thought he rented it for that i'm being 100 no i think he bought it

00:24:50 - 00:25:00 | Speaker 2:

from what i understand it's he bought it between michael jackson's diamond encrusted glove is only 150 000 but there's a pokemon card that is worth seven

00:25:00 - 00:25:08 | Speaker 4:

million yeah yeah doesn't that seem off but i wonder if they have a few gloves that's what i think i think there's a few gloves and it's not diamonds probably like rhinestones something like

00:25:08 - 00:25:16 | Speaker 1:

that yeah i mean who cares what the stone is just the fact that michael if there was i'm pretty sure there's multiple there's multiple but there's multiple pokemon cards that to me just feels

00:25:16 - 00:25:28 | Speaker 2:

so odd well if you're talking about the pikachu illustrator psa 10 there's only one there's only one of those yeah there's only one of those what i'm not trying to get you that's what do you think

00:25:28 - 00:25:43 | Speaker 1:

has been in the hands of more kids absolute banger absolute banger you're welcome you're welcome great job Chelsea

00:25:43 - 00:26:04 | Speaker 2:

he dissed everyone so obviously there's the Kendrick disses on like a bunch of different tracks damn who was this guy for real I guess a magician 100 million streams vanished no one's got questions talking about the Kendrick streams that all of a sudden were there and then they got pulled down a little hypocritical because some of your streams disappeared as well that is kind of funny to do

00:26:04 - 00:26:18 | Speaker 1:

that is kind of funny to do it's like it's like uh nancy pelosi and like trump talking to each other about rigging the stock market yeah you rigged it more yeah okay all right uh and mugsy

00:26:18 - 00:26:56 | Speaker 2:

bogues don't for once even i'm a bit amazed kind of funny this one was one that people specifically on black twitter he got kind of there was discussion about it white kids listen to you because they feel some guilt and that's how your soul gets fulfilled handing out turkeys on camera inside of your hood and then you go back to the hills how many houses you built how many souls did you heal off the back of your deal so he's basically saying white kids are listening to kendrick because they have white guilt he's like they listen to you because they want to be like an activist and a part of this whole like you know black cultural movement and that they do it because you represent that in the space, not because they actually like the music. I'll be honest, I never met a white person unless it's a Kendrick, bro.

00:26:57 - 00:27:06 | Speaker 4:

No, you go to a Kendrick concert, it's, they're buying most of the tickets. Is that right? Yeah. Well, that's also- That's most of hip-hop. Yeah. Most of big acts.

00:27:06 - 00:27:20 | Speaker 1:

But that's just a numbers game, isn't it? At the end of the day, it's like, when your genre is the most popular genre of music in the world, and you live in a country where black people are 12% of the population and white people are like fucking 60 or 70, like the chances are that numbers are going to be skewed.

00:27:20 - 00:27:25 | Speaker 4:

But like NBA Youngboy show, it's a bit more mixed than a Kendrick show.

00:27:25 - 00:27:27 | Speaker 1:

The whites ain't getting after the NBA Youngboy show.

00:27:27 - 00:27:30 | Speaker 4:

They like them, but it's a bit more mixed. It's a little day in the skybox.

00:27:31 - 00:27:55 | Speaker 2:

It's a little day in some of those shows. But he's calling out Kendrick's hypocrisy because he's like, he's basically trying to say, oh, Kendrick, you say you only make music for black people. You're a black artist for black people. But then your show is, you know, 80% white. What I would say is like that's not Kendrick's fault. Like he can't decide who buys the tickets. But he's just saying, you're misrepresenting who you are. I'm being honest. My music's for everyone. That's why my audience is Indian kids and white kids and black kids.

00:27:55 - 00:28:01 | Speaker 1:

That is true. I would say that he's more ubiquitous. Drake is a more universal artist. Yeah.

00:28:02 - 00:28:09 | Speaker 4:

But sometimes he'll frame things trying to make them like this when they aren't. Because that's a good thing.

00:28:09 - 00:28:15 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's like, you just make music for black people. And then Kenny's like, yeah. Yeah.

00:28:15 - 00:28:22 | Speaker 4:

like when he said you rap like you're trying to free the slaves I'm like yeah it's a good thing you don't want to free the slaves

00:28:22 - 00:28:25 | Speaker 3:

you want them to stay there

00:28:25 - 00:28:28 | Speaker 1:

I mean like you know Drake is half wants them

00:28:28 - 00:28:38 | Speaker 3:

so you're like he'll try to frame shit like that I'm like bro look at the bear man that's why people keep telling him look at the bear

00:28:38 - 00:29:00 | Speaker 2:

that would be a good movie if some guy did rap and freed the slaves that'd be a fire movie would you not watch that? if rapping freed the slaves yeah mark keep going okay that's a wild comment he goes to dj khaled that one went super viral and oh everyone's in khaled's comment what does

00:29:00 - 00:29:22 | Speaker 1:

khaled do what is khaled because i think he thought it was just gonna like brush past or maybe some pr firm told him like hey it's better you don't say something whatever but like this is not going away and now he's so late to saying anything that if he does it will just look performative like he's doing it because he's getting criticism so what does he do he just

00:29:22 - 00:29:48 | Speaker 2:

doesn't go outside anymore but then another thing so hypocritical because jewish drake i hear you speak out about israel well he did sign the creators for peace thing fuck is that this was like basically a big coalition of artists that signed like a ceasefire activism plea that was very public and he signed it like that's the quietest way you can say free palace it's

00:29:48 - 00:29:57 | Speaker 4:

louder than khalid i didn't even know that i didn't even know that alex i guess it's a little

00:29:57 - 00:30:00 | Speaker 1:

louder than khalid khalid can't even say

00:30:00 - 00:30:31 | Speaker 2:

it that's true that's insane like yeah i mean free palestine is it that crazy like what's the opposite of free palestine enslaved palestine like how could you not say like sometimes i see people that they can't even say the words yeah i know you know and you're just like well what are you trying to say if you can't say the words like i understand like words might have different meanings etc but like you should be allowed to say the words don't you want everybody to feel free like how could you not want anybody to be free it is a politically charged con of course

00:30:31 - 00:30:45 | Speaker 1:

it's it's same as a crisis king no that's factual you know what i'm saying that's just factual that was like that judge we were watching the brilliant idiots he's like they were asking him a direct question like oh can trump run for a third time based on the constitution motherfuckers couldn't

00:30:45 - 00:30:51 | Speaker 2:

even say yeah i know they couldn't even say it's unconstitutional that shit is crazy but now

00:30:51 - 00:30:56 | Speaker 3:

everyone's in cal's comments just being like yo say it you have to turn off the comments right yeah

00:30:56 - 00:31:03 | Speaker 2:

So what would you do if you're Khalid? What would you do? You've got to join Hamas. That's the only way, right? You've got to go extra. You've got to go.

00:31:04 - 00:31:14 | Speaker 3:

They've got to dig bigger tunnels, though. He needs to. That's going to be a little tunnel. If Khalid joins Hamas, he's like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:31:14 - 00:31:21 | Speaker 2:

Bro, there's no way he's paragliding. There's not a fucking parachute thing. He's going to look like Indiana Jones. That rock.

00:31:21 - 00:31:46 | Speaker 3:

No, but for real, what does he do? What would you do if you were— Now you've got to ride it out. I'm assuming that in his mind—because he's half-Palestinian, full-Palestinian. I think full. Like, in his mind, I'm sure people got on his ear and they're like, hey, you're a pop star. You make music for everyone. You're one of the biggest artists in the world. You're getting all this money off of making these hits, so you work with everybody. You don't need to say anything. Just because you're ethnically from a place, you don't got to do it. I'm sure people told him that.

00:31:47 - 00:31:48 | Speaker 2:

And they probably said, this is going to go away.

00:31:48 - 00:32:20 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, and they'll be like, this is all smooth out, and you're going to be fine. You can privately have your beliefs, but publicly you don't need to say anything. and i'm assuming that's what his position was it was a political one and now he's made enemies with people and now they're applying pressure a la drake like mo almer said the same thing in his special he called out khalid too yeah yeah and so now people are noticing being like bro you're us and you're not saying anything about this that's crazy and there's even been videos of people that have interviewed khalid they're like yo say free palestine he goes peace and love to everybody yeah i know that shit is good what i don't understand is like what is he worried about

00:32:20 - 00:32:28 | Speaker 1:

saying it maybe his partners whatever backers are like wouldn't they understand that he would

00:32:28 - 00:32:44 | Speaker 2:

feel that way like wouldn't he understand that he would want his family members over there are they that understanding they don't have to understand they don't have to understand their position but they could empathize with his position can they you i mean do you not i think it's one of those

00:32:44 - 00:33:08 | Speaker 3:

things where they're like hey remember that rich you know like zionist billionaire that you performed at his kid's bar mitzvah two years ago and he paid you crazy money to go do it? Do you want those deals to dry up? You can either make a stand and gain financially, maybe something, maybe not a ton, or you can say nothing and still be able to play both sides of the ball and make money from everyone. I'm assuming that's what happened behind the scenes. Do you think he's going to keep getting Weight Watcher

00:33:08 - 00:33:14 | Speaker 1:

deals while he gains weight? That only happens when you're cool with a lot of people.

00:33:15 - 00:34:02 | Speaker 2:

So he thought that being a we're assuming here obviously but he thought that like his ability to be this celebrity for everyone this like public figure that can have access to all these different rooms would be limited by taking a stance on this cause that's what i assume but it's the same shit drake does interesting you're like drake isn't loud enough about it to call out yeah but i think he got pushed back for that too but i think in drake's position he's like i don't have to say anything i'm canadian yeah it's like these aren't my people whereas like you should be feel compelled to talk about it because they're your people yeah now you can feel compelled to talk about because you're a human being yep absolutely but like if something's happening in scotland it doesn't matter to you probably as much as it might matter to me no it matters to me because you're my brother bro

00:34:02 - 00:34:10 | Speaker 1:

yo man come on man thank you bro what's going on over there i don't give a fuck yeah what is going on over there yeah what's going on with them sheep fuckers damn

00:34:10 - 00:34:16 | Speaker 2:

bro that was crazy you you proud of that though yeah this doesn't you didn't mean it that way

00:34:16 - 00:34:36 | Speaker 3:

yeah we both like big asses fair enough i mean what about the political scandal the 2026 hollywood election yeah that was crazy remember that that was crazy i yeah the scottish national party was facing that that difficult election cycle i know i know just fucking what's your take on that

00:34:36 - 00:34:47 | Speaker 2:

howdy scandal was fucking nuts that was a crazy scandal out there and i'm like i'm glad we got through it as a country and a people it shows our resiliency you know what i mean free palestine I was going to say Free Scotland. Free Scotland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:47 - 00:34:52 | Speaker 3:

There you go. And then he went at Rick Ross. I actually, I like this bar. I thought it was cool.

00:34:52 - 00:34:54 | Speaker 2:

I mean, it was very clever.

00:34:55 - 00:35:09 | Speaker 3:

Aiden Ross was streamed before Aiden Ross had ever streamed. I thought that was good. Great bar. Great bar. Hard bar. He went to ASAP crazy hard. Your baby mama ain't even posted a single? Damn, where's she at? I mean, that's a lot.

00:35:09 - 00:35:33 | Speaker 2:

They got beef, but also if I drop an album. You know what I mean? If I drop an album. My wife's private on Instagram. I'm like, get it up. What are we doing over here? Yeah, a little bit, right? Maybe there's a reason. She must have posted something. She must have. You almost don't want to believe it. She must have posted. That's probably an unfair take. Can we check that? She'd obviously check it, but like...

00:35:33 - 00:35:40 | Speaker 4:

I feel like she posted him. Maybe not just a song, but like maybe him in a Prada ad or something.

00:35:40 - 00:35:52 | Speaker 2:

I mean, she's also a billionaire. She's like, I'm supporting enough. You know what I mean? This is Rihanna we're talking about. Also, she made three of his kids. She's done a lot. Yeah. She's done a lot. Yes.

00:35:53 - 00:36:01 | Speaker 4:

Shout out ASAP. But that's also ASAP's fault. He keeps shooting at Drake. His last album was so many disses at Drake. But I respect that, too. Why?

00:36:01 - 00:36:20 | Speaker 2:

A-Zap's from New York, bro. You tell me a New York dude who someone's talking shit about, and they're not going to talk shit back. Facts. I think that a lot of people, when they see him in the fashion world, and they forget this is a New York rapper, and you talking shit about me, you're going to get it back every single time.

00:36:20 - 00:36:42 | Speaker 3:

You're completely right. Now, let the record show, according to Billboard from 2025, this is December from 2025, Rihanna hopped into Rocky's Instagram comment section showing love for her man and his hard work saying, so effing proud, let's go, baby. That's not a post. That's not enough. Okay. That's not enough. That's a good comment. That's a nice, supportive comment. It is a nice, supportive comment.

00:36:42 - 00:36:49 | Speaker 4:

And maybe there was more. Couldn't even hit the reshare or something. Maybe there was more. Mike's throwing shit up. This is New Yorker, bro.

00:36:49 - 00:36:53 | Speaker 2:

The Knicks is in the playoffs. You're right, you're right. We need unity right now.

00:36:53 - 00:36:55 | Speaker 4:

It's Iceman season right now, man.

00:36:56 - 00:37:10 | Speaker 2:

Iceman season happens after the NBA finals. That's true. Shout out ASAP, all right? Took a little shout out to J. Cole. I thought that was light. Yeah. Actually, I thought that was light unless there's another way to interpret it. Say the line.

00:37:10 - 00:37:20 | Speaker 3:

So there's a couple. He says, me, I stood 10 T's and accepted the mission because I'd much rather be caught in submission. How can you press the ignition and let some memories of the past affect your decision?

00:37:21 - 00:37:48 | Speaker 2:

Say the other one about engaged. The married rapper line. Oh, yeah, I got to pull that one up. I could have fell back like the married rapper, but we engaged is the line. When he says it, it kind of sounds like he said, but we ain't gay. That's what I thought the little double entendre. Now, but this could be like that dumb rap shit where you like find like 20 meetings to something that doesn't exist.

00:37:48 - 00:37:56 | Speaker 4:

But the couple bars after that, he does, he is still popping shots, I don't know. Yeah. Have you seen the kid? This guy's funny.

00:37:56 - 00:38:07 | Speaker 3:

He definitely went lighter on J. Cole than I thought he was going to do. Yeah, he was delicate with him. We can't play the audio, but he does explaining Drake lyrics to my girl. Yeah, to his girl, this shit was funny. This is funny.

00:38:10 - 00:38:59 | Speaker 1:

Do you get that? No, what does that mean? He's down to put bills on their face, like money for their head, because he's down to hire someone to kill them. okay but then also bills in their face like flexing on them but also like a duck bill yeah because they're ducking drake like they're ducking him but the name for a male duck is a drake no yes oh i didn't know that great so they're ducking drake okay and kendrick's last name is ducksworth no way so this whole song is dissing kendrick yeah ducking drake that is it goes even further because the buffalo bills yeah their rivals are the patriots yeah and their quarterback is drake may so they're dunking drake

00:38:59 - 00:39:06 | Speaker 3:

this is how we want women to react to everything we say

00:39:06 - 00:39:24 | Speaker 2:

i love that right you realize how much your wife don't care about you once you have kids and they run to see you when you come home? You know what I mean? Like, daddy! She's like full on sprint. My wife is still cleaning dishes or something like, hey, baby, how you doing?

00:39:26 - 00:39:29 | Speaker 3:

Anyway. Okay, we got a bunch more. I mean, he goes at Jay-Z.

00:39:30 - 00:39:35 | Speaker 4:

Wait, but before we move on from that, why do you think he went light at Cole?

00:39:36 - 00:39:44 | Speaker 3:

Because he knows Cole's not going to respond. I think he also has a lot of love for Cole still. Yeah. But I think he had to call it out like, yo, that was weak.

00:39:44 - 00:40:05 | Speaker 2:

It's also bullying if you go at Cole. Like, going at someone who's going to engage in a beef with you. Oh, shit. That's funny. No, I mean it's. Are you dissing Cole right now? I know. I'm not dissing Cole. I'm saying, like, Cole has already said I'm not going to beef with anybody. Mm-hmm. So. You're basically calling him out for not supporting you, but he's not being, you know what I mean?

00:40:05 - 00:40:13 | Speaker 3:

I get it, but he's started this whole shit. You could damn there blame Cole for having all the shit Drake went through.

00:40:13 - 00:40:14 | Speaker 2:

That's why he called him gay.

00:40:15 - 00:40:27 | Speaker 3:

Or engaged. Or engaged. Yeah. But I don't know. I think it should have been more bars. And then he said something about, like, he didn't pick up. He tried to call him. Or he didn't call him back or something like that. I didn't hear that.

00:40:27 - 00:40:33 | Speaker 2:

all right give me some real fucking heat give me some like well the lucian grange ones is who is

00:40:33 - 00:41:11 | Speaker 1:

lucian grange again he's the head of universal head of universal okay so there's a couple bars in here that are interesting so one that's obvious he says i'm fighting the man not suing a rapper you boys aren't listening so he's talking about how he's fighting the label that he's in this deal with and he has a bunch of lines at him he says me and lucian both got jewish ties but still But I'll still call the cap on his head like Jewish rabbis. And then he has this one. Grange arranged an evil plan to get the masses to point their fingers at me and blame for the same things they had MJ framed. The difference with me is that I've maintained my black complexion. I'm ready to black out on anyone trying to white out my name.

00:41:12 - 00:41:18 | Speaker 2:

So he's a legend. He's a legend that Grange is doing some dirty work.

00:41:18 - 00:41:38 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, but he's been saying that. Right. Yeah, but I like that. even though I still don't like the lawsuit situation oh well yeah but I kind of get it a little bit but this is another example of you pointing something out that you're trying to reframe it but it's still corny shit you're doing

00:41:38 - 00:41:52 | Speaker 2:

like yeah so what do you do in that situation like if you're trying to sue the label because you think the label is doing nefarious shit but do you not do it because everybody's going to interpret it as suing Kendrick?

00:41:54 - 00:42:37 | Speaker 3:

That is how we all interpreted it. Cut your losses and move on. Like he's going to appeal and keep this thing dragging out. But I heard one theory online is like, hey, jamming them up with litigation. Now he's using this three album to get off his deal. And now if they try to hold him on the deal, it could look like prejudice because he filed the lawsuit. Like he might be using this as a strategic play to get out of his deal. I don't know. There's so many theories online about whether or not he's even still in his deal. Did he satisfy his contract?

00:42:37 - 00:42:41 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw a couple of those theories. And that some private equity company is going to give him

00:42:41 - 00:42:46 | Speaker 3:

some crazy... Like $2 billion or some shit like that. If that happens, that's crazy, right?

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00:45:51 - 00:47:26 | Speaker 1:

where he says y'all about to make me richie like lionel for real and that's the truth now people have made a stretch here but it's kind of funny lucian grange has a son named elliot elliot is married to sofia richie lionel richie's daughter so lionel richie is lucian grange's daughter-in-law and he also makes another line where he's like i'm the golden goose causing problems in lucian's house and so he's making this line like y'all gonna make me rich like lionel so there's like sub illusions that he's going to be like Lionel and get rich off of Lucy and Grange and the way that Sophia Ritchie got rich from being affiliated with the Grange family and some people have read into it to say that he's how somehow, some way had like a tryst with Miss Ritchie. This is a crazy allegation that people have tried to stretch. I don't think it's true personally, but people have tried to make the connection. That would be dirty work if that's the case. I don't think it's true, but that's what people are speculating on the interwebs can't put a box by him though can't put a box by him boys don't work yeah boys don't work got that rep so now if you just throw that out there it's like a little breadcrumb yeah he goes on to say in reference to jay-z people are assuming it's jay-z i mean he has lines about not taking the he's like i won't take the dinner give me 500 000 i can't learn anything from any of you uh damn y'all was really island hopping back then now y'all got your names redacted uh and it seems like he's referencing pusha t and j pusha t and jay-z getting the names

00:47:26 - 00:47:55 | Speaker 2:

redacted but he could just be he could just be referencing that's a beautiful one where it's like if you take offense to it it exposes more about you than it does the line because he could just be talking about the dudes on the epstein files yeah you know you guys were island oppin now you got your names redacted right yeah but that's a reach fuck that but if if jane is bar on the album good thing human beings aren't biased it's a good thing we don't have emotional connections to artists

00:47:55 - 00:47:56 | Speaker 1:

and defend them

00:47:56 - 00:47:58 | Speaker 2:

whenever we can

00:47:58 - 00:48:29 | Speaker 1:

it goes with DJ Mustard, Pharrell, Pusha T, LeBron, DeMar DeRozan the Dr. Dre one I thought was great why are you coming to Dre man the bar is great what's the bar if Drake took out the AK maybe he'd be going to jail just based off the name that it spells what they say they just smelled. I heard they got a special place in hell for N-words as joking about the evil when they did it themselves. Break this down. So, if Drake took out the AK, I'm sounding like the dude.

00:48:29 - 00:48:32 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know. Oh my God, yeah, the AK.

00:48:32 - 00:48:47 | Speaker 1:

If Drake took out the AK, it spells Drake. Okay. So you take the AK out of Drake as Dre, and he's saying there's a special place in hell for people joking about the evil when they did it themselves. So he's implying, again, allegedly, I have nothing to do with this.

00:48:47 - 00:48:53 | Speaker 2:

If Dre's joking about Dre being with underage girls, he's like, Dr. Dre.

00:48:54 - 00:49:11 | Speaker 1:

And there's an allegation that Dre was dating like a 15 or 16 year old when he was like 25 or something. He's calling back to that, saying you're clowning me for being in underage girls. You were on the record in a relationship, according to Dre. Oh, I didn't know about that. I know about Dre maybe getting a little handsy back in the day, but I didn't hear about.

00:49:11 - 00:49:24 | Speaker 2:

What do you mean by that? I don't know. People look it up. What should they Google? Dr. Dre in hand. I said, but damn.

00:49:24 - 00:49:26 | Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah. But a clever bar, nonetheless.

00:49:27 - 00:50:11 | Speaker 2:

Absolutely. We got to talk about this bronze situation, bro. So what do you think? I mean, like, to me, that's the most, I always thought that was the most foul. And again, like, we're in entertainment, and maybe that's something that, like, you got to understand. I don't know what Braun stands to gain from these things. He's already the top of the top. But in this game, there are people incredibly opportunistic, and they will switch up on things, and people have helped them if they see that there's a better opportunity or that a person could be pulling them down. So they make these moves strategically, and it's like there's not the same loyalty you would expect amongst friends. in the business. But like, I don't know. Like Drake was going to his kids fucking basketball games, bro. Like that's, if I go to your kids basketball game, he had them tattooed on,

00:50:11 - 00:50:27 | Speaker 3:

right? Yeah, which is a little, that's a little weird. Yeah, it's a little weird. That's a little weird. But still. That's weird. You trying to turn a weird thing into a good thing. That is weird. That is a weird thing. It's LeBron, dude. So if I tattoo you on me right now, you're not going to find that weird? I'm not LeBron.

00:50:28 - 00:50:54 | Speaker 1:

I was LeBron though. I'd be like, yeah, damn right. It's LeBron, dude. And the bar is actually pretty good, I thought. I shouldn't even be shocked to see you in that arena because you always made your career off switching teams up. Yeah, that was a great bar. I thought that was clever. But I don't know. And then he goes to Joe Budden. That was a funny one. What did you say? I mean, but it's funny. To me, their whole beef is funny because it seems like they just go back and forth all the time. I feel like they both low-key love each other. That's what I'm saying.

00:50:54 - 00:51:03 | Speaker 2:

I feel like, I don't know. I think we got to see one day, 20 years from now, dms where they're like they're kind of just both like nah that was a good point you made about me

00:51:03 - 00:51:07 | Speaker 1:

or not i was a good bar because i think their whole beat is predicated on them being with the

00:51:07 - 00:51:39 | Speaker 2:

same girls oh i thought it was i thought it was like some rappity rap shit like oh maybe like a love of the game and like i think drake wants validation from joe because he sees him as somebody who's like a connoisseur of music and i think joe sees drake is like the guy who's reached the mountaintop and also is nice at rapping. He's not just some pop song. You think it's just about girls? This is what the line is. That's some loser shit, bro. You guys are fucking 50 years old. You're fucking about pussy?

00:51:40 - 00:52:10 | Speaker 3:

I put it on Drake. He would get with some of Joe's exes and then just flaunt it. That's like Drake's motive. It's like, hey, I'm going to clown you by showing I fucked one of your girls. And it's like, it's corny shit. And that's why Budden felt that it was corny shit. And that's why they've been beefing all the time. But I think they both respect each other's pen. So that's why it's like, it's mutual respect, but...

00:52:10 - 00:52:17 | Speaker 2:

It's also mutual pain. It's like when someone that you actually respect says something about you, it hurts more than someone that you don't give a fuck about.

00:52:18 - 00:52:35 | Speaker 1:

I mean, that's what the line says. Who knows which one of his bubble-shaped tings I must have ushered through the double gates. showing her the time of her life while broski having stomach aches, hearing about the good times at Lover's Lake, and send her back to you while you sleepwalking naked in another state. That was funny. That was funny. That was funny. And apparently there was a line. Drake is funny.

00:52:37 - 00:52:41 | Speaker 2:

As a comedian, there are bars in here that you really do appreciate.

00:52:42 - 00:52:50 | Speaker 1:

But yeah, it's just, I don't know, it's a funny line. Apparently, I didn't know this, but he told a story about sleepwalking one time naked. I think he got arrested or something. Is that what it was?

00:52:50 - 00:53:00 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, I wasn't familiar with it. He was, like, sleepwalking. I think he, like, knocked on his name or his dog. No way. That happens. But it's, uh, yeah, he's sleepwalking now.

00:53:00 - 00:53:11 | Speaker 1:

But no, I thought the whole project was fire. I like that he dropped all three. I like that it's in the charts. And I think people are like, oh, yeah, this is awesome. We get to witness great. And stop glazing. I am glazing.

00:53:12 - 00:53:14 | Speaker 3:

The whole project's not fire. It's a good project.

00:53:14 - 00:53:16 | Speaker 2:

You haven't even listened to it.

00:53:16 - 00:53:19 | Speaker 3:

Iceman, I listened to a few times.

00:53:19 - 00:53:26 | Speaker 2:

And then you haven't even listened to the other ones. So how are you going to say the whole project ain't fire if you haven't even listened to it?

00:53:26 - 00:53:35 | Speaker 3:

All the Iceman ain't fire. Like, Iceman, I would say two-thirds of it is good. That's phenomenal for an album. Yes, but then you have two more albums. The Habib teacher shit is just not for me.

00:53:36 - 00:53:37 | Speaker 2:

You listen to it already.

00:53:37 - 00:54:05 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, like, I listen to, like, 15 seconds of each song just to try to get through it so I can have something to bring to today. I hate that album. Like, I just don't like the slow singing shit. It's just not for me. That's for other people. the other one I think that's actually my favorite of all of them because it's just like fun songs made of honor yeah while you're just like driving in the car and I think a lot more of those are going to be playing in clubs and going to be playing the summertime and stuff like Iceman

00:54:05 - 00:54:15 | Speaker 2:

was just like hey I'm getting my bars yeah I'm nice at this and I choose to do this other stuff where I sing yeah that's a choice I don't gotta do it yeah I could give you all bars if I want

00:54:15 - 00:54:18 | Speaker 1:

But I think the Made of Honor tracks are the ones that are going to last more years. Yeah.

00:54:19 - 00:54:20 | Speaker 2:

That's what we're going to be listening to this summer.

00:54:21 - 00:54:28 | Speaker 1:

Probably. And then obviously we can't play the song, but this was kind of fun.

00:54:28 - 00:54:31 | Speaker 2:

Which one is this? Is this the music video?

00:54:31 - 00:54:31 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:54:32 - 00:54:32 | Speaker 2:

Which one?

00:54:32 - 00:54:40 | Speaker 1:

This is the music video for Dust. Oh, the boy! And they got the young bull as a cop.

00:54:40 - 00:54:41 | Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, Shane.

00:54:42 - 00:54:43 | Speaker 1:

I mean, how fire, though?

00:54:43 - 00:54:45 | Speaker 2:

No, this is fire. And then there's kids in it.

00:54:46 - 00:54:49 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He steals a cop car. He's riding around Toronto.

00:54:50 - 00:54:51 | Speaker 2:

And they got Shane in the back.

00:54:51 - 00:54:51 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

00:54:52 - 00:54:52 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

00:54:55 - 00:54:56 | Speaker 1:

I mean, just awesome.

00:54:56 - 00:55:28 | Speaker 2:

So Derek Poston went up with Shane when they went and did this. and Derek is, like, the biggest Drake fan. Like, he thinks that he's the second greatest artist in history, I think. Yeah. And the first is, like, J.K. Rowling and then Champagne Poppy. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So this was, like, we were with Derek this weekend in Salt Lake, and, like, the first thing he said when he sat down, he's like, tell me how many Drake stories you want. It was fantastic.

00:55:28 - 00:55:33 | Speaker 3:

It was all, yeah, can you share anything? Of course not. It's one of secrecy.

00:55:34 - 00:55:43 | Speaker 4:

It was just cool with Shane that Shane gets this opportunity to go up to Toronto to do this. And he's like, I'm bringing Derek. Derek is going to appreciate this more than anyone I know.

00:55:44 - 00:55:54 | Speaker 3:

That's awesome. I didn't see this full video. Is Drake in the video at all? I'm sure he was on set while they were making it. I think he came on set at the end. But I don't think he's in the video.

00:55:55 - 00:55:59 | Speaker 2:

It's crazy they put out a video for all the songs.

00:56:00 - 00:56:05 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. But then it's easy. If he's not even in the video, then you can just hire people to do all this stuff.

00:56:05 - 00:56:16 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, but still to do that. Like, that's a big undertaking to do a music video for one song. Is it every song on all three albums or just every song on Iceman?

00:56:16 - 00:56:51 | Speaker 4:

I think just Iceman, but I don't know. Still, that's crazy. And then the White House got involved. Like, apparently Trump posted an edit, some Iceman shit. I'm sure he hates this. He put out the Iceman, but it's ice. i'm sure he hates this come on bro they're rounding up canadians right now come on dude you can't be deported canadians to ice man and then there was a there was another one like i think like just the white house posted like uh yeah that one yeah iced out white from the official white house

00:56:51 - 00:57:03 | Speaker 3:

no you can tell it's just insanity 25 year old drake fan of running his account kind of a fun like from all the shit that they post like now you just know it's just some

00:57:03 - 00:57:08 | Speaker 1:

20 something year old 100 yeah no i think it's a team and then there's just one guy that's like

00:57:08 - 00:57:21 | Speaker 2:

yeah this is what's hot right now post it i think you might be overestimating yeah i know i don't think they're not organized i think it's one kid who's fucking 19 years old just sitting in the white house all day scrolling instagram because if it was a team they wouldn't have let

00:57:21 - 00:57:27 | Speaker 3:

all this shit slip that did slip fair i don't mean a team of like highly trained professional

00:57:27 - 00:57:31 | Speaker 1:

i think it's a bunch of 19 year olds that are all in different different things maybe just

00:57:31 - 00:57:35 | Speaker 4:

sending shit to the main guy yeah could be anyway i think people have gotten all of our rap takes

00:57:35 - 00:57:44 | Speaker 2:

for the day yeah any final thoughts drake's back man also how's a hater i just i gave it up to him

00:57:44 - 00:58:09 | Speaker 1:

I said it's great. I'm with Drake Glazer, and you said you listened to the first 15 seconds of... The Habit T-shirt. That's 7% of the album. Bro, it almost put me to sleep. An admonishment at 7%. You liked the slow one? I liked it all. I had a bunch of flights this weekend and just had a great time flying and listening. I mean, it's not for everybody. At least I gave it up.

00:58:09 - 00:58:25 | Speaker 4:

I liked the Iceman shit, and I liked the other one. What else we got, Mark? Miles, great contribution. And speaking of Miles, Chud the Builder got arrested. Hey, hey, hey. What? Oh, fuck. What? It's a good segue. That's a perfect segue. You guys have similar mustaches? Yo.

00:58:25 - 00:58:26 | Speaker 2:

Chud the Builder.

00:58:26 - 00:58:30 | Speaker 4:

Fuck this guy. So this guy, Chud the Builder, was going viral, if you haven't seen it.

00:58:31 - 00:58:42 | Speaker 2:

Chud the Builder saw the rose to Kevin Hart and was like, hold my beer. Let me show y'all how to be racist, racist. What is this guy's MO? So he's a streamer.

00:58:42 - 00:59:28 | Speaker 4:

I can play some of the clips. I thought you were about to play some of it. I don't even know what we can play. If this is going to get us demonetized, we might have to bleep some of this. But basically, from my understanding, I'm not an avid Shut the Builder follower. I've only kind of heard about him since the story broke. Let's not even play a clip. He will go around and basically antagonize black people is what it seems like. Maybe I'm not giving a charitable read. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But he'll go around and be like, y'all believe in free speech? And then black people are like, yeah. And he's like, so it's cool if white people say the N-word? and then he'll just say it hard R. Yeah. And then they get in a confrontation. And then if they try to fight him, he'll mace them. And then if it goes any further than that, he also has a gun on him. And then he's basically like, yo, free speech. You know, we live in America. You guys are Americans. And that's the whole stream.

00:59:29 - 00:59:41 | Speaker 2:

So we've reached the end of the internet. Is this the logical conclusion? If you game out the internet and you just let people do whatever the fuck they want, they'll do anything to get attention. And then this is the worst possible thing

00:59:41 - 00:59:46 | Speaker 3:

that you can do to get attention interesting oh that's your take on it yeah i just assume that

00:59:46 - 00:59:59 | Speaker 2:

this is like the logical conclusion to like if you don't have this is the difference between like attention and like art let's just call it i mean and we can be very loose with art i think there are streamers that do things that are artistic like they're choosing to do

01:00:00 - 01:00:09 | Speaker 3:

more than just whatever is the most salacious thing you could possibly say. I think you saw Kai do a lot when he's building out these sets. I would even say speed. Speed, absolutely.

01:00:10 - 01:00:16 | Speaker 2:

Going around all these places, creating these moments in all these countries that are maybe more obscure. Absolutely, 100%.

01:00:16 - 01:01:16 | Speaker 3:

I would even say, I've been watching nonstop clips of Adrian Broner and Dean the Great. I don't know if you've been seeing them. But you know who Adrian Broner is, the box, of course. And then there's a streamer, Dean the Great, who I think also had maybe a boxing career. Anyway, they've been hanging out, and I just see clips online, but they're just hilarious together. They're making fun of each other. They're scaring the hoes. Adrian Broner, I really hope that he does not have a drinking problem. It looks like he does in the streams, but he is an all-time hilarious individual. He was hilarious during press conferences when he was a champion, and he's still hilarious now. Anyway, I'm not saying this is high art, But there is, like, a goal of intended humor for it, and it looks fun. But, like, if you're not capable of generating attention based on some form of skill, you'll do it based on pure shock, and this is the worst of the worst.

01:01:17 - 01:01:26 | Speaker 1:

Ah, so you don't feel Chud the Builder is a civil rights activist, as people online are saying. A free speech, you know, proponent.

01:01:26 - 01:01:32 | Speaker 3:

Are you, I mean, like, what's the, what are the limits of free speech in terms of, like, antagonistic behavior?

01:01:32 - 01:02:21 | Speaker 2:

Well, that's my issue with this. Like, free speech is a, I think we've talked about this before, but it's like a legal precedent that the government can't put you in prison for something that you say. Right. So it's not illegal to say the N-word to a group of black people. Yes. You know, like, maybe in a certain circumstance, potentially it could be, depending on, like, where you're at and, like, the nature of it. But, like, you can say the word and not get arrested. Exactly. And that is what freedom of speech is. Yes. but to me this is like hey i can disrespect you and then you aren't going to do anything about it right because you believe in freedom of speech yeah which is bullshit it's like no like you don't have to say the n-word to them you could just go up to any group of dudes and be like y'all are bitches and they would try to fight you and you wouldn't and you wouldn't be like oh you guys don't believe in free speech it's like no you're disrespecting me and now there's going to be consequences for disrespect yeah exactly people would react yeah i don't even know if we have

01:02:21 - 01:03:05 | Speaker 3:

freedom i mean we do have i imagine freedom to antagonize but i don't know if anybody is like fighting for it and that's what this feels more like freedom to disrespect freedom to antagonize freedom to like make people feel incredible amounts of discomfort and uh like if you walked up to them he was having a discussion about freedom of speech yeah right where he was like well what about this word and how would you feel about people saying that word and then some people saying like i hate that word but like i understand you shouldn't be arrested for saying it i don't think he gets any pushback right they're having a discussion wouldn't get any clicks or streams and the goal is not freedom of speech the goal is attention and a person who just doesn't have the ability to get attention through any other means besides the lowest comment it's hard for

01:03:05 - 01:03:31 | Speaker 1:

me to check my bias on this like i really despise this guy and people like this and what bothers me so much is that he just like came out of nowhere and now everybody knows his name and they're probably using all the bot farms and the clippers to make him bigger. And this is just going to motivate more people to do this type of action. Because like, hey, this is the quickest way to get on now.

01:03:31 - 01:03:35 | Speaker 3:

But I wonder if it does. Like, I wonder if seeing, you know, he's got... I already see it happening.

01:03:35 - 01:03:59 | Speaker 1:

There's more people like, oh, okay, it's up. We can just say anywhere. We can just do whatever. Because it's a slow roll with people like Nick Fuentes, because he says it all the time on his stream. And now it leads to this. And I really hope – the only thing I dislike about this is that he shot himself and missed. Well, he did hit himself, right? Yeah, but he missed. He missed? Yeah.

01:03:59 - 01:04:15 | Speaker 2:

That's the only bad thing about this thing. Right, right. Which, yeah. I mean, this is pedantic, but, like, white dude saying the N-word is more popular now on Twitter. But he's directly saying it to black people, which is, like, another level of antagonism and disrespect.

01:04:15 - 01:04:33 | Speaker 3:

Because you can't get enough attention just saying it. Now we're desensitized to white boys just saying it, right? Like you see all the streamers kind of like, not all, but a lot of these streamers just throwing it out there. So now, since we're desensitized to that, what's the next iteration of it? How much crazier can I get so I can get the attention I'm a doctor to?

01:04:33 - 01:04:34 | Speaker 1:

First, it was a Kendrick concert.

01:04:35 - 01:04:42 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was Nick Fuentes. Kendrick opened a door. Kendrick concert walks so Nick Fuentes could run.

01:04:42 - 01:05:18 | Speaker 2:

so he gets in this thing it's difficult to know exactly what happened but i think the context is kind of clear so like he's outside of a courthouse in tennessee he has a confrontation with a black dude who happens to be a veteran and it appears that this guy takes his gun out before the altercation takes place and then he shoots him and then also grazes himself in the confrontation and he's claiming that he acted in self-defense and now he's currently being charged with attempted murder employing a firearm during a dangerous felony aggravated assault reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon his bail is set of 1.25 million can you act in

01:05:18 - 01:05:27 | Speaker 1:

self-defense if your goal is to antagonize i i don't believe so but and that's why the judge was like we're setting the bail super high and we didn't think that the only problem is i don't

01:05:27 - 01:05:32 | Speaker 3:

know if he started this one that's what both sides are claiming they're claiming that the black guy

01:05:32 - 01:05:44 | Speaker 2:

came out of nowhere because now he's popular enough on the internet that people see him and so some of his streams you'll see him walking around people just like yo fuck you yeah and then he immediately fires back with the n-word or some other type of racial slur there's an

01:05:44 - 01:06:08 | Speaker 1:

interesting thing going on where it's like um we pretend that like words don't have meaning right like they don't hold meaning outside of like the dictionary definition of what they are and like i saw an interesting uh debate or at least a clip of the debate so i'm not giving full context but it was between uh ak and sneko and uh i think sneko was taking the position of like it's just a word and people should be able to say the word and then ak was like all right well

01:06:08 - 01:06:14 | Speaker 4:

say something about allah shout out shout out to ak he cooked him on that and it was like it was a

01:06:14 - 01:07:00 | Speaker 1:

great point because what what he was presenting is like hey that word means more to you it's not just a sound it has a meaning and you will not use it in a negative way yeah which i think most people understand they're like this means so much to you and we're not going to disgrace that person and there are people that do do it and they do try to disgrace it and they know what they're doing when they're doing it right but like you can't sit here and be like that word has no meaning it's just a sound and then when there's something important to you and someone tries to disgrace it or ask you to do it you refuse to do it so now you acknowledge that these words do have different meaning and to black people this word means a lot especially when non-black people say so it might not mean anything to you but if it just like Allah might not mean anything to you but it means somebody else and you might have to deal with that response yeah yeah uh now should

01:07:00 - 01:07:06 | Speaker 4:

you be able in my group chat when i said i mean in my dms when i said something on this pod that

01:07:06 - 01:07:47 | Speaker 1:

they didn't like well but but now should the government be able to punish you if you say that in america where there's freedom of speech no like should you be able to speak negatively or should you be able to see these to say these these words according to the government rules of freedom of speech, yes, they shouldn't put you in jail for that. But that doesn't mean that someone can't be pissed off by it. It's like what Charlemagne says all the time. It's like, you have the right to, you have freedom of speech. You are free to say whatever you want, but you're not freeing from the repercussions that another person might have. Like, you have the right to say whatever you want about my kids. I'm going to react away if you're talking crazy about my kids. Like, yes, my kids just have names and they're just sounds or whatever, but it's like they have a very different meaning to me and you're saying these things.

01:07:48 - 01:07:52 | Speaker 2:

And people wouldn't be like, oh, you're so emotional for reacting that way. It's like, yeah, I'm emotional.

01:07:52 - 01:07:54 | Speaker 1:

And people get emotional about certain things.

01:07:54 - 01:07:54 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

01:07:55 - 01:08:05 | Speaker 1:

You know, whether or not the government should be able to restrict your ability to talk about my kids, I would say, like, no, you have the legal right to do it. But then I'm going to react emotionally about it, I'm sure.

01:08:05 - 01:08:05 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

01:08:05 - 01:08:08 | Speaker 1:

And you have to decide if that's worth it to you.

01:08:08 - 01:08:08 | Speaker 2:

Yeah.

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01:11:23 - 01:11:59 | Speaker 3:

get back to the show and here's another thing that bothers me and i know people whatever i i'm giving a fuck like people say hey uh black people are always victims and they just like we're we milk the fact that there's just like racism and they think that we're post-racist society since obama and shit like that but then you have a guy that does this type of stuff then puts up a gofundme and people are donating and he just raised 1.2 million dollars like that He raised that much? Yeah. I don't think it was that much. Look at it right now. Oh, no, I'm sorry, sorry. Maybe-

01:11:59 - 01:12:01 | Speaker 2:

I thought it was like $90,000 or something like that. No, no, no.

01:12:01 - 01:12:09 | Speaker 3:

He hit enough to get the bond. The bond was $1.2 million, but you have to hit 10% of that so you can pay the bail bond.

01:12:10 - 01:12:11 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think he raised $200,000.

01:12:11 - 01:12:33 | Speaker 3:

$200,000. But even that, imagine. It's crazy. That is that many people willing to support this guy who's doing obviously racist behavior, and then you try to tell black people that oh racism's done get over it like that shit is it just sucks yeah to know that yeah but that exists that there are people out there that

01:12:33 - 01:12:43 | Speaker 2:

yeah yeah they i don't even know what you're supporting right there like you want to be able to say the n-word to black people is that what the people are supporting like what is the

01:12:43 - 01:12:53 | Speaker 3:

report they're supporting his actions all the shit that he does they're supporting his actions they want him free they want him back on the street to be able to conduct himself that i mean

01:12:53 - 01:13:37 | Speaker 1:

he calls himself like a free speech warrior that's how he so he frames himself and i think that the most charitable interpretation of course i think there's a massive contingent of people that are just racist and don't like black people and are willing to support this but i i wonder if the most charitable interpretation is like because i've heard people even kind of like sort of flirt this on x where they're like white people get called emotional all the time but we say one word about black people and everyone and now they're trying to fight and that's like what they'll try to say and they're like this guy's just pushing the limits of free speech and he's illustrating that you are allowed to say things and you don't have to react negatively and i don't think that's a great defense because it's like no if you disrespect someone they can check you and that's like very reasonable in the context and the setting you gave like with your kids like yeah you disrespect

01:13:37 - 01:14:24 | Speaker 2:

someone you might get slapped yeah we're not robots this is not chat gbt we're like emotional beings and like sometimes we'll have irrational responses to things that we're very emotional about you know what i mean like it's about to get very irrational in new york in the next week we're in the eastern conference finals it's gonna be if you want to talk about rational behavior from people who are saying go outside of madison square garden after a nicks victory or a nicks loss and you will see how emotional we will get about this team that we care about have we met any of these people on this team no do we have any connectivity to the people on the team no but this means a lot to us and we're gonna go fucking crazy they're gonna be guys right outside MSG saying they'll suck dick for a Knicks championship and they're gonna say it on film and it's gonna be posted by Saito and they believe it they gotta be from Jersey but I still

01:14:24 - 01:14:31 | Speaker 3:

recognize the love but nah he's not a New Yorker you don't say but yeah it's like we get emotional

01:14:31 - 01:15:29 | Speaker 2:

about things that's why I always say like even with jokes is like you can't be upset at someone's reaction like we should be able to say jokes but if people are upset at the joke then you have to understand that they're upset at the joke yeah and in in this circumstance the huge difference i would say is that we are not saying it to the person specifically to irritate antagonize and hurt their feelings that is not the goal that the goal of the joke is humor for everybody at that show to laugh but if somebody doesn't find it funny you gotta let them not find it funny yeah and like when the comics I don't know.

01:15:00 - 01:15:03 | Speaker 3:

do the whole thing where they're like trying to bully them into a specific reaction it's like

01:15:03 - 01:15:20 | Speaker 5:

that's just not how comedy works yeah you don't bully someone's laughing yeah now if someone like heckled and tries to ruin the show that's where i'm like now you're doing the wrong thing now you've made me emotional and i get to react emotionally you say a joke someone and you're at a show someone doesn't respond well and they just privately leave that is the best you reward

01:15:20 - 01:15:51 | Speaker 3:

that behavior yeah you reward or if they're just not laughing whatever that you reward that behavior because what they're not doing is making about themselves they're just going i'm not going to interrupt the show other people are liking this i don't like it not for me not it's not for me but that's fine yeah i i like applaud that shit yeah if you're stopping the show and trying to do all this it's like what you're doing is you're making this moment more about you than all these other people that paid fucking a lot of money to go see a show got a babysitter came out that night you're ruining their issue for something that you feel yeah you make a joke about cancer and it's

01:15:51 - 01:16:07 | Speaker 5:

like oh this person in the front row just lost someone to cancer two days ago why are they going to be laughing they're gonna react emotionally and then they leave and it's like yeah i i didn't mean to do that to you but if it hits you in a weird way like i totally get it and it was not my intention to hurt your feelings yeah and if it hits you in a weird way i understand you can

01:16:07 - 01:16:35 | Speaker 3:

just step out it's his intention to make people feel uncomfortable and that's why he carries a gun yeah comics aren't carrying a gun on stage right because it's not our intention yeah this is possible but you know what i mean like because the intention is pure yeah right the intention And also, like, you know, usually going to a show more or less the type of comedy that you're going to get. You know, but if you've got to carry pepper spray and a gun, you're probably doing shit, you know, that people are going to react poorly to. And that poor reaction is exactly what you want.

01:16:35 - 01:16:41 | Speaker 4:

So I'm following this case because, oh, man, if he beats this, if he gets off like this is going to be bad.

01:16:41 - 01:16:53 | Speaker 5:

Yeah. Yeah. Now, apparently there is a phone call that got out from prison of him pleading. Allegedly, I don't know if this is a I don't think that it is, but pleading to Aiden Ross to post bail and that he's willing to fight.

01:16:54 - 01:16:56 | Speaker 3:

what does that mean

01:16:56 - 01:16:58 | Speaker 5:

this is a 40 second clip this is what he says

01:16:58 - 01:17:31 | Speaker 2:

if you can get me out help with the bond I cannot access my funds until I get out of here because no one has access to any of my gifts in Go or my crypto wallets etc I have to get out of here so that I can get verification processes to get into all of these funds I will fight for free if you can help me out to post bail I will fight for free who will do whatever it is. Oh, fight on his boxing. Yeah, brand risk. I need somebody with big money who can throw down, who can support me.

01:17:32 - 01:17:35 | Speaker 5:

And Aiden has publicly rejected the request to pay the bond.

01:17:36 - 01:17:44 | Speaker 3:

I mean, fight Francis Ngannou. I don't think anybody would object to you post a bond for that.

01:17:45 - 01:18:05 | Speaker 5:

Right? I mean, there's already been fighters that have called him out. Still don't post a bond. There's been a few fighters that have called him out That are like, yo, I'll fight you. Like, we can put the money up. I'll put up this amount of money. If you win, you can get it. And I don't even want money from you. Like, let's just go fight. I've seen a few different fighters put that up.

01:18:05 - 01:18:08 | Speaker 3:

I mean, don't even give more attention.

01:18:08 - 01:18:12 | Speaker 4:

I want a few of those lifers in jail to just have their way with his asshole.

01:18:12 - 01:18:14 | Speaker 3:

Oh, there's going to be? That's what it is.

01:18:14 - 01:18:19 | Speaker 5:

Now, people have also found these images, and they're suggesting that this is him. I haven't confirmed that it's him.

01:18:19 - 01:18:19 | Speaker 3:

Oh, no.

01:18:19 - 01:18:23 | Speaker 5:

But people are suggesting that maybe he did have some type of alternate life online, allegedly.

01:18:24 - 01:18:27 | Speaker 4:

Oh, wow. Just a troubled soul.

01:18:29 - 01:18:32 | Speaker 5:

But yeah, that's that one. Anyway, more feelings, no facts?

01:18:33 - 01:18:33 | Speaker 3:

Let's do it.

01:18:34 - 01:18:53 | Speaker 5:

Okay. I hate that guy, bro. I mean, in streamer news, did you see Clav get mogged by the judge? No. This is very funny. People just pointed this out. But basically, people are like, at his hearing, it seems like everyone that's surrounding clavicular is hot and people are like people are like they just found like the hottest judge they

01:18:53 - 01:19:07 | Speaker 1:

can get firing a gun in the everglades during a live stream they have now pleaded no contest to the charges andrew morales known online as cuban tarzan and braden peters who goes by clavicular who are each charged with unlawful discharge and people are like look at this guy

01:19:07 - 01:19:15 | Speaker 4:

peace bang bro peace look like he did a little jaw breaking this guy the judges and people

01:19:15 - 01:19:47 | Speaker 5:

pointed out like he did an interview i forget with which news agency but like the guy that interviewed him was handsome like everyone that's around clavicular is handsome and they're like oh they're just pulling out hot people to like check him like that that's what everyone's saying they're like to check him in what way like if you're gonna get a judge you need to have the hottest judge because according to his own bylaws being hot is the only thing that matters so if you bring the hottest person out then he's just gonna be like guilty kind of funny um did you see the uh the cars for kids thing dude this is the funniest shit in the entire world you know cars for kids yeah

01:19:47 - 01:19:56 | Speaker 4:

did you hear this story i did but i heard this was it's been a thing for a minute i'm surprised it's popping up now but we just found out about it yeah so the new york times just ran a story

01:19:56 - 01:19:59 | Speaker 5:

that says judge bars cars for kids from broadcast

01:20:00 - 01:20:05 | Speaker 4:

misleading ads in california for context can you explain what cars 1-877 cars for kids

01:20:05 - 01:20:19 | Speaker 2:

1-877 cars for kids 1-877 cars for kids i think send your kid to tel aviv i thought that was the end of the song we just never got to the end of the song i think it was

01:20:19 - 01:20:22 | Speaker 4:

specifically a northeast thing because i don't really remember in florida oh really yeah this

01:20:22 - 01:20:35 | Speaker 3:

was i think it was up here there's a few jingles we remember salino and barnes injury attorney 1-800-888-888-888. I think that was a lot more eights than needed.

01:20:35 - 01:20:36 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, what does that have to do with Israel?

01:20:38 - 01:20:41 | Speaker 3:

Those are the two non-Jewish attorneys in New York.

01:20:41 - 01:20:53 | Speaker 4:

I had to write a song about it. So according to this article from New York Times, it says, evidence presented as civil trials showed that children, especially needy or underprivileged children, were not the exclusive recipients of the proceeds of the donated cars.

01:20:53 - 01:21:13 | Speaker 3:

The idea we all thought was you donate your old car, that money goes to underprivileged kids. right and then you got some sort of voucher or something for it or you got like a tax write-off or whatever but that was what we all assumed it was i didn't really know anybody with a car growing up that could donate it like because they're going to new york you don't have a car you could give

01:21:13 - 01:21:25 | Speaker 1:

away my dumb ass didn't even know they were selling the cars for money i thought you were just giving the cars to poor people son i thought that soon okay there was a part that was like well

01:21:25 - 01:21:30 | Speaker 3:

what would the kids do with a car? Like, I just didn't understand this from the jump.

01:21:30 - 01:21:36 | Speaker 4:

You're like, Gorgman couldn't handle it. My Gorgman couldn't handle it. I thought it was just a family. You deserve it. All y'all deserve it, dude.

01:21:37 - 01:21:44 | Speaker 3:

Cars for kids. I didn't get it. I was like, what is this? But I assumed they would do something with the car, sell it for parts or whatever. They did.

01:21:44 - 01:21:59 | Speaker 4:

That's exactly what they did. Talk to me. That's basically it. So according to New York Times, Cars for Kids primarily funds New Jersey-based Jewish organization, URA, which provides programs including an adult matchmaking service, trips to Israel for teens, and summer camps in New York. So, yeah.

01:22:00 - 01:22:14 | Speaker 3:

So, and now what they'll say is if you go to the website, it clearly shows what it is, but I think what the lawsuit is alleging is that you're not promoting it this way in the commercial. It just looks like this car money is going to kids, but like

01:22:14 - 01:22:17 | Speaker 4:

guys. Well, the commercial is like a lot of black kids. Yeah, I know. It's very diverse. A lot of white kids.

01:22:17 - 01:22:22 | Speaker 2:

It's the white kid who's playing guitar, but he's not even playing it? Like, they didn't even get actual kids

01:22:22 - 01:22:29 | Speaker 4:

that can play the instruments? Now, it says in the article uber also spent money overseas the judge wrote including a 16.5 million dollars to

01:22:29 - 01:22:35 | Speaker 3:

buy a building in israel jesus they black lives matter in it yeah they turned into a real estate

01:22:35 - 01:22:40 | Speaker 1:

venture but hey that was a fucking two decade run right there and a nice run y'all fuck that up

01:22:40 - 01:22:51 | Speaker 3:

quick yeah you need a better jingle you guys are usually good at that wow you're right this is This is the commercial you're referencing right here. We had one summer. Bro.

01:22:56 - 01:23:04 | Speaker 4:

I don't even know if we can play that. Song still slaps, bro. It does. But none of these kids are... I mean, maybe they're just...

01:23:04 - 01:23:14 | Speaker 3:

Listen, they should have stopped this commercial October 8th. Do you know what I mean? They should have known that this was going to come back.

01:23:14 - 01:23:24 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, but nobody knew. Just keep it going until... That is a good point. Yeah. That is a good point. You don't stop the Ponzi scheme. You stop it when you get caught.

01:23:25 - 01:23:36 | Speaker 3:

Well, it's not. I guess the issue is not a Ponzi scheme. The issue is going to just Jewish kids or Jewish adults that want to take trips to Israel. And we all thought it was just underprivileged kids getting their first car.

01:23:36 - 01:23:54 | Speaker 4:

Yeah. Now, the mascot is apparently a stack of cash named Fivey or Five-ish. No way. Can we just zoom out of the anti-Semitism that's currently happening in our culture? Because we should take a moment to acknowledge that racism still exists, right?

01:23:54 - 01:24:06 | Speaker 3:

Racism still exists. There's a lot of people that hate Jews. And black people. And black people. And white people. And there are people that hate white people. No one really seems to care about that, but it's all good. We should start our own charity. We need it.

01:24:08 - 01:24:14 | Speaker 4:

Yeah, dude. Cars, kids, collective. This is just a very funny picture, right?

01:24:15 - 01:24:16 | Speaker 1:

Why did you stop it right here?

01:24:16 - 01:24:27 | Speaker 4:

why'd you pause right here well just the image in and of itself is a south park sketch i think like it just is a thing they're like crazy i mean like how do you listen to this pod right now

01:24:27 - 01:24:38 | Speaker 3:

please go get the video yeah this is insanity no way this is true insanity oh they're not trying to stuff the mascot in their pockets

01:24:38 - 01:24:44 | Speaker 1:

they're not fighting over it this is a father reading the tour with his son

01:24:44 - 01:25:17 | Speaker 4:

what is this is this a sketch no this is posted by the official ura page which is a great non-profit that helps jewish youth in new york and uh they're also some of the main beneficiaries of cars for kids So I guess the criticism of this would be if they were clear about where the money would go, maybe they wouldn't get as many donations. Therefore, they were unclear about where the money went so that they could maximize. I think that's what the judge is essentially alleging in the case, right?

01:25:17 - 01:25:20 | Speaker 3:

Yeah, and specifically just that they can't advertise in California.

01:25:20 - 01:25:24 | Speaker 4:

Because the money is not going to kids that could benefit from it in California.

01:25:24 - 01:25:26 | Speaker 3:

I think they're saying it's false advertising. Yes.

01:25:26 - 01:25:34 | Speaker 4:

Yeah. But I think the false advertising comes from the fact that it's misleading, not only misleading about being in California, but misleading about where the money is going to in general.

01:25:34 - 01:25:40 | Speaker 3:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, pretty wild. In a vacuum, quite funny.

01:25:40 - 01:26:26 | Speaker 4:

Now, outside of what's happening in the world right now, if this like, let's say 10 years ago, we saw this and this popped up, we would be dying fucking laughing. There would be an episode of Kirby Enthusiasm about it. Like Larry would find out his car was going to. That's hilarious. That's why I think it's the biggest time. First thing, I'm like, yo, good run, man. Good shot. I'm like, gotta give it up. Tell me 10 years ago this isn't an episode of Curb. Larry finds out he's donating the car. He thinks it's going to this local youth or whatever like that. He tells J.B. Smoove's character, yeah, I'm donating my car so that underprivileged kids can get the car. J.B. Smoove goes, Larry, you know those cars don't go to kids? Well, what the hell did they go for? They just send an adult to Israel. And then Larry goes, well, hold on. episode of Kurt. Larry tries to get his car

01:26:26 - 01:27:19 | Speaker 3:

back. He tries to get his car back. I need my Prius. Yeah. And they're like, we don't have your Prius. He's like, come on. I know what you guys are telling me. Yeah, exactly. Come on, come on. He goes, no, we're helping kids. Don't you want to help kids, you know? Yeah. And he's like, give me the car. Yeah. I mean, all time. You gotta donate all Volkswagens. Did you see the, oh, dude, that's funny. That is funny that so many car manufacturers are anti-Semitic. Yeah. The majority. i don't know if there's one that isn't so you know no no toyota toyota linked up with with the with the nazis yeah ford yeah ford was american but he was not about it they always get their get back dude that's smart they're like yeah you can make some anti-semitic cars but watch what we do it's kind of impressive that was a good move uh long game are you gonna buy the uh ap swatch

01:27:19 - 01:27:25 | Speaker 4:

collab no really please do not show me video of people fighting over this fucking you're not

01:27:25 - 01:27:30 | Speaker 3:

gonna camp out for the ap swatch collab do not show me a video that chud the builder

01:27:30 - 01:27:46 | Speaker 2:

put me onto this because i don't i didn't hear about this oh god please do not tell me that there is a fight over an ap swatch collab you've heard of ap yeah yeah you've heard of swap and i know yeah both brands so they're doing a collab great watch has been doing collabs with with

01:27:46 - 01:28:41 | Speaker 1:

bigger brands because they own them so they did like a moon watch uh from omega and then they did an ap watch but they never announced what the ap watch is going to look like but ap obviously is a big brand and there's going to be limited amounts people started waiting outside the store for the ap swatch collab seven days ahead of time eight days ahead of time like in new york and miami and the big cities where the the drop was and they never announced what it actually looked like and there was a lot of like ai renderings that was tricking people into thinking it's going to be like some real heat fire gas and if these are real like they actually look kind of fire no they're cool but it's a stopwatch and people thought it was going to be a wristwatch it's a pocket watch got it but now they're selling mods to turn it into a wristwatch yes so you can buy like a 3d printed like mod to make it back into the thing that people thought it was going to be originally yeah but it was never going to be a wristwatch it was always thing i don't

01:28:41 - 01:28:59 | Speaker 2:

understand well i guess i understand the hype but like china is gonna just copy this shit in like a week yeah it's like that's the easiest thing to recreate it's all colorful it's plastic it's like i mean you could recreate any watch now yeah yeah don't they have like the fake

01:28:59 - 01:29:10 | Speaker 4:

myth watch busters those type of yeah but like you i mean the mechanics you might not be able to recreate like if you're actually opening up the watch and like seeing what's inside but if you're

01:29:10 - 01:29:20 | Speaker 3:

just running it with like a shitty little battery oh yeah there's entire like rep watch sites where like you spend like a thousand dollars they're expensive still okay yeah but they're not fifty

01:29:20 - 01:29:42 | Speaker 4:

thousand dollar watches and you're not limited in your access to them which is like what makes these things so expensive i mean that's probably why ap this ap like swatch collab is popping because it just gives people one who would never have the access to get an ap or never be able to afford it the ability to hold that luxury how much are these going for i think like 500 oh really

01:29:42 - 01:29:55 | Speaker 3:

okay that's smart and then they're immediately reselling for like two grand that's also the hustle which is people are like yeah i'll stand in line i'll get a 500 watch and flip it 1500 in a day you make most people are just trying to like flip these watches now and the

01:29:55 - 01:30:04 | Speaker 1:

omega collab was like incredibly successful with swatch they made moon watch watches but based on the different planets and it was pretty successful and they're cool and

01:30:04 - 01:30:43 | Speaker 4:

they're like a fun wear shout out swatch man yeah that's smart swatch as a brand is kind of brilliant right because like the whole watch thing is built around scarcity for the most part like people pretend like they care about the mechanisms and like i got a buddy who like he cares about it but like i also think he just looks at it as like a like an asset that's gonna go up in value but But Swatch has never sold expensive watches. They're pretty accessible. They're accessible, but so they've relied on specifically being cool in a business where cool is dependent on scarcity. And they've lasted just as long as all these other watch brands.

01:30:43 - 01:30:50 | Speaker 2:

It's interesting. I don't know how. That's like the store you just see at the mall that you've always just passed by. But it doesn't feel cheap for some reason.

01:30:50 - 01:31:15 | Speaker 4:

like i'm more impressed with swatch than i am rolex or ap or any of those because rolex ap they could just charge an insane amount and never let you have it and people are going to want to get their hands on it anybody can get a swatch and it's still cool yeah and they still can pull ap into a collab well doesn't help ap right that's what i don't get i don't get why i no it does

01:31:15 - 01:31:43 | Speaker 3:

help i think there is a relevance to it of course and like i think also these luxury brands are reaching the top of who they can sell to i think yeah and then like you've seen it with a bunch of different luxury brands whether it's like bentley rolls royce or like ap whatever it's like okay we've sold everyone yeah so now do we come out with a lower level product well that's going to devalue our main product but if we do a little collab on the side then we can open it up to a new market without necessarily devaluing our main asset we can't sell shit cheaper but what we can

01:31:43 - 01:31:52 | Speaker 4:

do is get a whole new group of young people addicted to the feeling of having a prestigious watch. It's kind of a brilliant

01:31:52 - 01:32:01 | Speaker 2:

collab, bro. Give them the crack for free. Now they understand the watch game and now some of them are going to get money. You're right.

01:32:02 - 01:32:08 | Speaker 4:

Now maybe they choose an AP instead of a Rolex. They choose an AP instead of a... What's the other one?

01:32:10 - 01:32:41 | Speaker 1:

Patek Philippe. This watch is also so smart. they own a huge i think they're like the biggest watch brand in the world if i'm not mistaken they own omega all that and they use their they use their own brands first to do these collabs that's smart and make this like really cool plastic omega and it was such a hot success that now the like local or like family-owned brands rolex i think ap's uh that and a couple others are like maybe gonna come talking to swatch it's a great lab reach out that's the

01:32:41 - 01:34:03 | Speaker 4:

thing like i'm more impressed with the ceo of fucking zara than i am the ceo of uh louis vuitton or something like that just because rich people are gonna buy the expensive shit because they don't want to be seen as regular so it's easy to sell them that and then people who don't have any money want the expensive shit because then you can be like i'm rich for a second right but maintaining perceived value of a brand that sells shit for cheap without it feeling cheap yeah that's fucking hard yeah yeah you know what i mean like like old navy had like a little run when we were younger maybe because we were kids but like they had like the cargo shorts or whatever it was and like it was the cheapest version of like the gap old navy banana republic do you remember when but like there was a moment where it was like the coolest i mean gap kind of does it well gap has killed it for like a while and i think they kind of fell off and that's why they went to yay yeah but it was like attainable it wasn't cheap the quality was good but there was a cool factor or a quality factor yeah that shit is hard when anybody can buy it but maintaining like this feeling of cool yeah yeah like what makes something cool is inherently it's inaccessibility yeah i've got to talk to that ceo and be like how the fuck you do this yeah selling some shit for a

01:34:03 - 01:34:20 | Speaker 3:

billion dollars that nobody can afford why how is that hard that's why i love genesis talk to those cars have you seen them yes they're so cool they look amazing and they're more affordable so it's like i mean miles you can probably speak to it better but like it's like the low it's like the

01:34:20 - 01:34:33 | Speaker 1:

affordable luxury car it's lexus in the 90s yeah genesis is owned by hyundai hyundai i think owns most of kia if i'm not mistaken hyundai used to have a car called the hyundai genesis that's what

01:34:33 - 01:34:35 | Speaker 2:

That's what I thought you were talking about. This was their first foray.

01:34:35 - 01:35:00 | Speaker 1:

They wanted to make a nice car. Kia is attempting to make some nice cars. And Hyundai basically was like, all right, we got to make the next great, reliable brand. It's Lexus in the 90s. It's Acura. It's all of these middle brands that can make a high quality product. And the logo kind of looks like a Bentley logo a bit. It feels luxury. It feels luxury, yeah. And they're awesome. And then I think they're great cars. I'm really impressed.

01:35:00 - 01:35:05 | Speaker 3:

by them and they're beautiful look at that logo that shit no yeah Aston Martin or Aston Martin

01:35:05 - 01:35:09 | Speaker 1:

and they're wildly like reliable because they come from one of the biggest brands out of Korea

01:35:09 - 01:36:08 | Speaker 3:

that's the smart move right there because somebody told me this where it's like it's it's incredibly difficult to take a accessible brand and then do an expensive thing with it yeah like nobody wants to buy the ten thousand dollar suit from zara right but you can move down so like people would absolutely buy the five hundred dollar suit from prada that would be the highest selling thing the fucking prada would have right five hundred dollar ap from exactly it's like because basically you want to buy in to the to the luxury brand at the cheapest amount it's it's almost like a real estate purchase where you're like you want the shittiest house in the nicest neighborhood yeah how can i buy into this neighborhood fuck my house yeah so creating an entirely different car so that you can have the quote-unquote like luxury i don't know if genesis luxury it is actually easier than selling an expensive hyundai oh yeah because who's buying a hundred thousand dollar hyundai well there used

01:36:08 - 01:36:15 | Speaker 1:

to be something called i think the hyundai uh equus okay and that was like their attempt but

01:36:15 - 01:36:22 | Speaker 3:

it didn't didn't work but like you've seen like toyota had to make lexus because people were going to cap out at how much they'd spend

01:36:22 - 01:36:30 | Speaker 1:

on a Toyota. Right. And the original Lexuses were legit just rebadged Toyotas with leather seats. It was just enough to be good.

01:36:30 - 01:36:32 | Speaker 3:

It's weird how our brains work in that way.

01:36:32 - 01:36:36 | Speaker 1:

That original LS400 is so cool. I don't know. Carl's first car.

01:36:36 - 01:36:38 | Speaker 3:

That was your first car? Yeah. No, no.

01:36:38 - 01:36:58 | Speaker 1:

My first car was a Toyota Avalon, which is like the Toyota's version. They were trying to go up for it. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. What was the Lexus you had in college, though? ES300. It was the Toyota Corolla, then the Toyota Camry, and then the Toyota Avalon now they have the crown I think is like their new high brand but I think Uber did that so when Uber first

01:36:58 - 01:37:32 | Speaker 3:

started it was just black cars in it's earliest iteration so it was like you got a fancy car service and then as they scaled they got to do Uber X or whatever it is where like it barely needs four wheels and like it's just fucking spells and it's horrible but they knew they're like we can offer a cheaper version of this. But Lyft, for example, started at the cheap version. Nobody's ordering a Lyft black car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because your perception of Lyft

01:37:32 - 01:37:43 | Speaker 2:

is the cheaper. You ever order Uber and a yellow taxi pulls up? That shit is hilarious. That shit is a little frustrating. And he goes, for Mark, how do you know my name? Who told you my name?

01:37:43 - 01:38:06 | Speaker 1:

What do you know about me? What is going on here? You remember Uber Pool? oh yeah bro you'd you'd be going uptown and someone else would be going uptown on the same street and they'd just pick them up and you'd be talking in the car yeah yeah that was wild i also like that time of the night where you in new york city can land it where the black cars are going down to just regular uber x you just call it uber x and a nice ass like oh how good does that feel

01:38:06 - 01:38:11 | Speaker 3:

when you when you call like just the uber regular and the suburban yeah it's like oh a nice little

01:38:11 - 01:38:31 | Speaker 2:

i was talking my buddy chris about this the uber tried to roll out a thing where they were like okay we're gonna have like a van like a like an eight or ten passenger van that goes on specific routes and then you can get on at any point and get off at any point and he was like you just invented the bus that's not even uber jamaicans were doing that in brooklyn for our entire life

01:38:31 - 01:38:50 | Speaker 3:

there was a two dollar bus and it was like an unsanctioned thing in brooklyn it was the dollar van or a dollar van it went up to two yeah but it was it was the dollar van in brooklyn it was always Jamaicans that ran it and they had their route and that's kind of how you got around parts of Brooklyn that didn't have a lot of... Bro, that's how I got around Far Rockaway. Was it in

01:38:50 - 01:39:01 | Speaker 2:

Queens too? Yeah. I guess there's Jamaicans in Queens. Yeah. Wow. I mean, that's so fun. I feel like Chinese churches have this all the time. Well, Chinese had the bus. Yeah. It was a full

01:39:01 - 01:39:50 | Speaker 3:

bus? So Chinese would do this bus service that would take you from Chinatown to Chinatown. So you could go to Boston, but you go from Canal Street to Boston, Chinatown. And it basically was cheaper than every other greyhound bus service or bolt bus or whatever that still to this day i took it to dc was the route so that was like the little hack and then white people found out about it and you just had to be cool with a dude with like a live chicken on his lap but it was by far the cheapest yeah like 20 bucks would get you $12 i think and then there was like a murder on it no i'm pretty sure these buses always accidents though yeah no no do you remember there was like a gang, I think it was like some gang shit because they were obviously like I don't know if this is for sure but you assume that they can charge that cheap because they're also running something else between

01:39:50 - 01:39:54 | Speaker 1:

the different Chinatowns. Oh, interesting. Do you remember the murder that happened on the bus

01:39:54 - 01:39:57 | Speaker 3:

where the guy cut the other guys? How do you think COVID spread so fast?

01:39:57 - 01:40:07 | Speaker 1:

Like, there's a click on it. The megabus flew. No, I know exactly who's about it. The one where he cuts other guys' head off right in front of everyone on the bus. You ever heard of this?

01:40:07 - 01:41:01 | Speaker 4:

Was that on a Chinatown bus? No, I think it was in Canada, bro. Yeah, it was in Canada. This guy, Vince Weigang Lee, killed a 22-year-old after hearing what he thought was the voice of God. He starts killing the guy. Everyone runs off the bus. He beheads him and holds up the head in the window. And he's like, yeah, God told me to do this. and according to bbc news uh he was out granted freedom yeah he's out off of uh momentary insanity or whatever it's called yeah according to this article the voice told me that i had a third story of the bible and that i was the second coming of jesus and i was to save people from a space alien attack he also said that he was quote really sorry who's to say that's not true he's really sorry he's really sorry and then uh he was sorry guys i didn't mean to do that he He was allowed to live in his own apartment in Winnipeg, Manitoba, and is still the subject to monitoring to ensure that he took his medication.

01:41:02 - 01:41:06 | Speaker 2:

Who's to say it's not true? We keep calling these people crazy, man. Maybe they're just prophets. Right?

01:41:07 - 01:41:12 | Speaker 4:

We called Noah crazy. Yeah. And built an ark. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They called Darlene crazy.

01:41:14 - 01:41:16 | Speaker 1:

You know? Nope. Nope.

01:41:17 - 01:41:22 | Speaker 2:

Of course, I wasn't trying to catch you. It was two. It was two. It was two. What are my next hat?

01:41:22 - 01:41:26 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, final feelings. What are my next hat? That clip was so funny.

01:41:27 - 01:41:30 | Speaker 2:

Just watching that was so good. Are you willing to talk about it?

01:41:30 - 01:41:32 | Speaker 1:

Do you want to do game one? Do you want to talk about the series?

01:41:32 - 01:41:38 | Speaker 2:

I want to talk about the series. What do we have for the series? Are we busting that ass? That's where we're at. We're at 71% right now?

01:41:38 - 01:41:58 | Speaker 3:

Calciots for the series is 71%. I hate this. I don't even feel comfortable being ahead. My comfort is being the underdog and having irrational confidence about that. My comfort is not we're supposed to sweep them. That makes me feel very, yeah. Well, let's go back to April 23rd.

01:41:58 - 01:42:03 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, April 23rd at 1 a.m., Cleveland was up. So you would have been happy then.

01:42:03 - 01:42:04 | Speaker 3:

Yeah.

01:42:04 - 01:42:07 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, how do you feel about that? Cleveland is busting your ass in April 29th.

01:42:07 - 01:42:08 | Speaker 3:

That's better. I feel better about that.

01:42:09 - 01:42:19 | Speaker 2:

I got to stay in the past. How do you feel, Al? I'm only going to game one because it's like if I'm bad luck, we'll still have enough time to recover.

01:42:20 - 01:42:26 | Speaker 3:

Why would you even do that? I got to go to one, bro. That's selfish, bro. I got to go to one. Come on, man.

01:42:27 - 01:42:30 | Speaker 2:

I got to go to one. We're going to remember this. We feel too good. This is, come on.

01:42:33 - 01:42:40 | Speaker 4:

We don't remember this. I got to go to one. I got to go to one. Where are you going to be for game one? In a bunker.

01:42:41 - 01:42:57 | Speaker 3:

A soundproof studio. Got to go to one. I'll be honest. I thought about going. I thought about going, and I was like, let's get a couple Ws on our belt first. let's just see what happens let's just see what happens let's see how the boys play they've been

01:42:57 - 01:43:06 | Speaker 2:

off that's another thing they've been off for a week that's good they're nice and rested fucking cleveland won seven games they tired yeah they're tired but they're also in a rhythm

01:43:06 - 01:43:15 | Speaker 1:

they're in a rhythm they're in a rhythm come on did you check your dms did anyone send you some sneak photos of them out at clubs or anything somebody sent me something somebody

01:43:15 - 01:43:23 | Speaker 3:

sent me something not out at a club it was like somebody they were talking about it was like one of the Knicks players talking about something. But I think they've been good. Okay.

01:43:23 - 01:43:28 | Speaker 2:

But you know Harden's already celebrating at a strip club? Like, we good. Well, that's the other thing. It's like,

01:43:28 - 01:43:29 | Speaker 3:

they got partiers on Cleveland.

01:43:29 - 01:43:30 | Speaker 2:

Yep.

01:43:30 - 01:44:21 | Speaker 3:

And like, New York. Yeah. New York, this is where it's time. Like, you gotta be. Psy-op. You gotta do a Psy-op. It's not even a Psy-op. Yeah, you gotta send in the honeypots, dude. Yeah, but that's not a, is that a Psy-op? I thought a Psy-op was something else. I mean, kind of. It was just a corporate operation. weak in the knees you got guys that want to party if there's anybody like if the it should be free liquor free tables for any cleveland's yeah any cab put their ass against the window start sucking put them up against the window lick the booty hole i mean that sincerely like there are hoes here in new york that you fucking guys that really don't deserve you now you could do something great for the city you could be a hero yeah you could literally be a hero so you know who to go after on that team. And like, listen, this is the greatest city in the world. People get caught up in shit. A lot of these guys in Cleveland, they're in Cleveland all year. They never experienced fine dining like this.

01:44:22 - 01:44:24 | Speaker 2:

Use that throat for good.

01:44:24 - 01:44:41 | Speaker 3:

Not only use the throat, like, listen, use some old fish in their meals. If they're going out to eat, there's more ways to win. Listen, Michael Jordan just randomly gets a fucking flu after having pizza at two in the morning. No, they poisoned that motherfucker.

01:44:41 - 01:44:59 | Speaker 4:

I'm not saying you should poison people. No, suck them off. James Harden, he needs to get sucked off. I'm not saying you should do that. Donovan Mitchell needs to be sucked off. We don't want any lasting damage. Max Struss needs to be sucked off. Evan Moble is sucked off. Jared Allen sucked off. We need all of them to be sucked. New York, now is time, bro.

01:45:00 - 01:46:24 | Speaker 2:

You don't just let the boys fight on the court. This is a fight the entire series, wherever they are. Drain them. Drain them out. Suck them. Suck them, dude. Be a eater. Yo, I mean, literally, like, now is the time. Like, now is if you're... Now is the time, man. That's all I'm just saying. Now is the time, guys. We all need to rally around our boys and make it as easy as possible for them out there. It's a commitment as a city. Yep. You can do your part. You can do your part. You will be rewarded for it. Yes. If you are the girl that causes unbelievable turmoil for any team the Knicks are facing, just know you're queen of the city. Yes. You're queen of the city. Doors are open. Put them on a parade. Give them the front float of the parade. They would absolutely get that. We celebrate like that. Yep. It's a very liberal city. It's a very liberal city. If you're sucking off James, Donovan, Max, Evan, and Jarrett, get on front of the float, dude. I'd be honest. I think that we would reward that. Oh, absolutely. We would absolutely reward that. Yeah. Anyway. We got this. We got this. We also got the Obsession movie. I think you're going to be fascinated by this. The Netflix MVP fights. Obsession movie. We got the Odyssey trailer that people are talking about. Should we go rip a little Patreon on these right now? Okay, we're going to rip Patreon right now. We'll see you guys there. Patreon.com slash flagrant. Peace.

01:46:25 - 01:46:40 | Speaker 1:

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