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radeye radio he is eric harley and i'm gary mcnamara hi hey what's up how's it going all right let's start out with relating sports to politics i haven't mentioned golf in a while have i no you haven't i've been able to sneak a golf story in

there in a while yeah i do i have to what do i do with all my live golf hats that i bought are those they're not going to be collector's items are they

but yesterday and i had a laugh when i saw this one because it was it was all over um was you know it went it went viral and and that was you know the uh the uh the the knicks the new york knicks right uh are seem to be a great team this year from what i i don't pay attention to sports like i used to and i'll prove that in just a moment right all right yeah i'll prove that in just a moment right but a reporter asked kathy hochel who's like go nicks go nicks go nicks go nicks yeah she does the same thing you should see because she's from the buffalo area people don't know that so she always you know talks about she could i think one time she went out there and she got booed like crazy uh but when when she makes a comment about the bills you know on x she's just destroyed i mean she's just every single time she does uh on uh on you know makes some kind of promotion thing about it but uh a reporter asked her and and the reporter asking the questions a little low so um just give you an idea of what's in this audio cut it's a short audio cut but the reporter says what do you say to president trump saying he's a lifelong nicks fan okay all right and you know new york trump yeah you can understand it right right all right so here we go all right now listen listen to her answer here and i'll explain it people may not know it but they did on the internet and they just pounded on her here we go all right here we go you heard the reporter but it's very low the reporter asking the question all right here you think of

I'm saying he's a lifelong Knicks fan. I think that's how the time took for it.

I asked him to name the starting lineup from 1993 championship team and see how he does. Yeah, so what do you say to President Trump about saying he's a lifelong Knicks fan? Hochul, I'd ask him to name the starting lineup of the 1993 championship team and see how he does. The last time the Knicks won a championship was 1973. They didn't win one in 1993.

Well, but she didn't mean basketball championship. They went on to do a ping pong tournament later offseason, and they won.

Now, to show you, look, do I have anything in my hands? To show you what kind of a sports fan I used to be compared to now.

Right.

Because I cannot name one person on the New York Knicks. Not one.

Right.

I have no idea who plays for the Knicks.

Right. We're talking, it's basketball, right?

yes yes basketball yes i'm she's just just just when i attempt to promote how ignorant i am about sports hold my beer harley actually no i actually watched part of the series the other night oh i i know you know yeah uh the uh well then again no i i now 1973 right yeah now remember it was a different starting five than uh when um when they played in 1970 but not by by much right in 1973 and look at this i've got nothing in my hands if you look at my computer it's look it's right on x got nothing on my hands right now yeah it was willis reed as the center earl the pearl monroe replacing dick barnett who was the uh the the starting guard he was still on the team when they He won 1970.

former senator the late senator bill bradley uh dave debusher and walt the clyde frasier was on that team and also one of my favorite six men of all time uh the uh kazzy russell kazzy russell used to take a jump shot he used to take his legs and flip them up behind when he would shoot all right so that's not now that's that's 73 that would uh well i'm sorry Cassie Russell was 1970. He was gone by 73. So for 70, it was Dick Barnett, Earl of Pearl Monroe, had not yet been traded, Willis Reed, Bill Bradley, Dave DeBusher, and Clyde Frazier. And since she's talking about the last championship, also as power forwards, Jerry Lucas and Phil Jackson.

so there you go and that's for memory right and then of course a big part of the organization bill the bucket wilson it wasn't on the team he was a bookie bill hoskett was on that team

yeah in 1970 that but that's just an example of how when i tell people that i really was an insane sports fan i was and i'm not as much uh today not even close now 1970 70 was the year, 69-70 was the year, and I was a fan of the Knicks. I was a real big fan of that team. And then the Buffalo Braves came into existence, and they became my favorite team. But in 73, I was still following when the Knicks made it to the championship. I was still following them. And so there you go. Just so you know that I could pass Kathy Hochul's test that she couldn't pass.

well she couldn't pass the question if you can't pass the question then there's something wrong i was actually in an oklahoma restaurant the other night it was friday night in the spurs and the and the thunder the thunder ended up winning they in fact in i didn't watch the entire game but i watched most of the end of the game and they And the Thunder was dominating pretty much the entire time. And I thought, oh, this is not good. Because everyone in the area, in the entire restaurant was screaming. They're screaming for the Thunder. We're in an Oklahoma restaurant. And I'm just quietly going, yeah, well, okay.

All right. My Spurs are not going to perform. You grew up with Spurs. Yeah, yeah.

I grew up, you know, down in San Antonio, Del Rio. It's the Spurs.

The Spurs, one of the few teams absorbed from the ABA into the NBA.

Yeah, and you know, remember we were talking about the other day about football teams and the migration to football teams and everything else, and remember when the people of San Antonio, God bless them, were trying to get the Raiders, when the Raiders were leaving the Bay Area, when they were leaving Oakland, and they were trying to get the Raiders to go to San Antonio. And we were like, oh, that's not going to happen. Because we were talking about, you know, what it takes to support a team, you know, build a stadium. You know, you have to have enough taxpayers in the city numbers-wise to afford today's stadiums. And I was thinking of that moment when, you know, it only lasted a few minutes, it seems, where they were saying, yeah, the Raiders should come out here and they should be the San Antonio football team because, in part, this was the justification. Their colors are already black and silver, which are the colors of the Spurs. Well, that's a silly reason. And also, Jerry Jones is never going to allow that to happen.

Well, I mean, I don't know if he could, he would have influenced, but I don't think it would affect the market of the Cowboys being, what are they, 285 miles away. And let me tell you this. I mean, I come from an absolute football town first, a hockey town second. It's funny because, you know, people say, well, when they built the minor league stadium, well, it can be expanded. And I said at the time, Buffalo will never get a major league baseball team. It's not a baseball town. It just isn't. It's got minor league baseball, but they are not a major league team. And they're going to look at the population. And, you know, they don't have the same type of revenue sharing as the NFL does.

Yeah.

And and so it's like never going to happen. And I'll never forget the people that were sponsoring it were not happy with me because I was a talk show host in the area at that time when they were. promoting we're going to get major league baseball and i went no you're not you're never going to get it but san antonio i don't know if they look at that market and say it's not big enough yet i will say this though uh crazy football fans there i do not know of a city that has supported all the different uh minor league football professional football teams that have gone

through san antonio well i'll say this they're they're they are rabid fans that are in in terms of the NFL that are split, of course, between the Houston Texans or back in the day when I was there, the Oilers, and the Cowboys. Now, in Del Rio, which is western San Antonio, you know, we got all of our news out of, we didn't have TV news out of Del Rio. We had one newspaper out of Del Rio. We had a couple of radio stations, but all of our TV news came out of San Antonio. So we were Western San Antonio. But, yeah, it was with the friends I grew up anecdotal. But with the friends I grew up with, everybody was a Cowboys fan in Del Rio. But you could see the split between and with baseball and with baseball. It was the Astros and the Rangers. Um, it, it seemed to lean more Astros than it did Rangers. And, and that again, it's just anecdotal. Um, but in terms of football, NFL, uh, Del Rio heavily Cowboys fans, uh, San Antonio, I was a little bit younger, so I don't know. I don't remember, but I, I think San Antonio was a very vibrant sports town. I mean, they love sports. They just absolutely do. I think they could, I do believe they could have a fan base. It's, you know, I just don't have the numbers in front of me of crunching the numbers of what it takes today. It kind of goes back to what we were talking about and have mentioned recently, and that's the cost of these stadiums. You know, they're just, they're just massive. Well, so, you know, I look Las Vegas, you know, they were counting on Vegas to be all right, because Vegas is a transient kind of town, you know, because where it used to be, where it's tourism, it's a global tourism. And that can work, you know, definitely for any sports franchise or anything going on locally. But, you know, if you want to get into a real sports town, San Antonio would definitely be one you would have to consider.

The other reason I bring up Kathy Hochul is because politicians believe that the people are idiots, that you actually care who they endorse. Remember Hillary? Where was she when she couldn't decide, you know, who she was for? And I forgot whether, I mean, for some reason, I'm thinking it was the Bears or something they asked. And she just, and I think Bill was the same way. Well, I like the team that everybody else, I like all the teams.

And wasn't there something when she was running for Senate between whether she was going to wear a Mets ball cap or a Yankees ball cap?

like that yeah and it's like yeah no nobody nobody gives a damn they believe people are such idiots yeah that well if you're if you support that team i'm not gonna i'm not gonna vote for you and i bring that up because of the uh in the third hour yesterday of the show we played that commercial from platner in maine that was running during a red sox game yeah which he says private equity the basically the private ownership of professional sports has destroyed it yeah and he doesn't like it and so we never really delved into it much because it was the end of the hour right right but i guess the point is and i was thinking about it during the day i'm like oh my god so he's talking about was he talking about somebody's got to ask him are you talking that government should own the sports teams should sports teams be owned by government and who should own it right should it be the state that owns it should be the city that owns it right should it be the county that owns it should it be the federal government that owns it and i i find it interesting when they're they're like the you know because one of the things is the billionaire owners if billionaires are evil they shouldn't own you know uh our sports teams now right i haven't seen him go much further on it but that was prime territory for the republicans to just pound on him and have a heyday making fun of it and of course uh because of uh a couple of things like the you know the jill biden story and i'm like yeah you know i don't they're just obsessed about that shows

how inside the beltway they are look they all knew i don't know whether she's lying or not i wouldn't be surprised if she's lying i'm not going to spend five minutes i don't buy i don't buy it

coming from her i think it was some kind of oh well i thought he was he might be having a stroke no you knew exactly what was going on i i don't buy it for a minute and then the the you know the

the paxton thing so this but i think it's prime to you know because people pay attention to sports and not that they're going to vote on it but somebody might say wait a minute are you saying that government should own all professional sports teams right you know what's your point why did you put that out right why did you make the case that the private sector is destroying the boston red sox right that's the case he was trying to make so if the private sector is destroying the boston red sox what's your solution right somebody should ask him yeah how do you fix it what an idiot i mean seriously what forget about that he's a commie nazi yeah he's an absolute idiot he's absolutely clueless yep as how the world runs yep he absolutely is you people in maine if it if it's true that he's actually up by nine points i i shake my head i i don't i don't know what to do you're you're just saying to hell with our state let's just send it right to hell yeah why not a commie nazi yeah and i read the other day well people are interested that you know in the the backstory and they know about the tattoo the tattoo isn't important except that it's a nazi tattoo it's like they're it's like the liberal

activist media is approaching it like one of the old uh barbara walter sit-down interviews

tell me about your tattoo tell me about the pain you went through while receiving the tat while

getting the tattoo so when you got angry you decided to get a tattoo that was pro-concentration camp where millions of jews died right right so i mean is is there something that we need to understand here that we fail to understand it's like jiminy glick you know martin short asking

mel brooks what's your beef with the nazis yeah that was great it's that it is that silly over the top silly this whole thing is just absolutely stupid now i didn't i i couldn't watch him do that

all the time yeah but i was a fan of those interviews oh my gosh funny we are run i radio

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we are on our radio he is here calling i'm gary mcnamara and the other question i'd ask plantner when he talked about the the fact that he he believes that uh you know private equity is destroying uh sports which means the billionaires owning the sports teams are not good because who i don't even know is anybody not a billionaire that owns a major league uh baseball basketball hockey or a football team everybody's a billionaire right yeah if billionaires are evil they shouldn't own sports teams right and and so i would the question i would ask him is how you you know you look at the you know for example the uh the the draft they already have their own form of trying to equalize, or that's the Major League, you know, DEI, trying to make each team equal, right? Right. How would Plattner expand DEI to professional teams if the government owned the professional teams? Yeah. Now, we did find out that in the state of Texas, Just getting Jerry Jones out of being an owner, whether it was government or not, received 99% approval from the fans.

Yes, it did. Unfortunately. they're not going to do anything.

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And he is Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Download our Red Eye Radio app today, and you can listen when and where you choose. All right, listening to a lot of the analysis yesterday about, you know, where the Republican Party is going. And quite emotional it got yesterday from, no, the Republican Party because of this shows that they have, you know, they've got the guts. This is not loyalty to Trump. It's the base, as we talked about yesterday, the base saying, no, we want somebody that's going to fight. You know, you heard the things like it's about time, you know, that Cornyn has been in there for too long. And I will say this, look, because we've got so many long-term senators in there. Here's how I view it. I view serving in government like I do radio. I've always expected that I'm going to be gone in a week.

Yeah.

You and I have always had this mentality.

We need to talk during the break. Go ahead. Anyway.

we've always had this mentality yeah even if no from day one right since i was 18 i've felt that right it's it's something that you just you know you know it is a it is a a cutthroat business yes and i've been let go and as i said i was actually let go from a job because i succeeded too well and when i went in you know we got you know the ratings came in and everybody's happy and everything else and i walk into the general manager's office he said congratulations we're letting you go because the owner he was a very uh let me put it this way elderly man who might have not had all of his cognitive abilities there well uh but he said he goes uh he wanted to say congratulations but he wants you to he wants you gone because he believes because of the success you've had you're going to ask for a big raise and he doesn't want to pay it and this is a smaller market right yeah yeah but i actually had went to unemployment the next day and said that well they said i succeeded too well i mean come on i i felt like i was the the episode of seinfeld where george costanza walks in to collect unemployment and he's trying to get an extension and he's not really looking for any type of job and ended up uh the member dating the the daughter yeah of the unemployment agent thanks for the big mac george i haven't had one in a while

it happened to a friend of mine who got her phd and about a month later they said you're over qualified for the job and we're going to have to we can't afford to have any gaps in the job that you do and so we're letting you go because we know that now you you are at a different pay scale we know you're going to ask for a raise so you're basically overqualified and and if you don't have

for example and uh probably i haven't actually thought about it much but probably the majority of my career you know the the contracts were completely one-sided as you know i mean early on they're completely one-sided towards uh towards management they might provide you know a little bit of security for the first year or something but after that i mean it was the the contracts were uh you know early on in my career didn't provide me any protection and as and sometimes there was no contract at all you just work day to day right and they you know like i said when they come in when you learn that early on in your career so i succeeded and you're letting me go yeah well then what the hell should i be scared of not succeeding or succeeding but

And, you know, the things, we're just moving in a different direction. And radio.

Yeah, I've been let go one time in my 42 years.

Radio is interesting that it's a unique medium, talk radio especially. I mean, I've started in music radio. but talk radio is so unique because for the most part you know you do not have producers dictating where you're going to go it's not like tv did you see and did you see the number of people

in cobert's oh my gosh that picture it's like 200 people no no when they used to remember back when they used to uh like they would show a picture from like the emmy awards right and it was i remember this one picture and it was all it was basically everybody who received the award you know as i don't know best comedy show or something for the daily show on comedy central and it looked like wait a minute it looked like everybody from the from the crowd from the audience got on stage i'm like there's no way they have that many writers it was dozens and dozens of people

unbelievable and and here in uh you know in in talk radio like for this show there's four of us yes right me you right alan and ron right and and alan does a great job he always gets me three or four stories a night yeah that are different than the things that i'm looking at You always find something, oh, all right.

Right.

I didn't look at that story that way. And just the headline, I'm just always amazed that he always gets me stuff that's like, wow.

Right. Okay. Now, we're actually very fortunate to have a very experienced production crew. Most shows at our caliber don't.

Was that a compliment towards our show or an insult towards what you and I do? they're highly overqualified themselves but but when you so it's completely and and i love it this way i wouldn't i could not i one of the things and and you were asked a long time ago by by somebody an executive you know what's what's your goal and you were on this show and you said to do

this show yeah i yeah i love i love radio i just right i'd in and it's not you know there's a difference between i love doing the job and i need to be on the radio every day now i can't i can say technically i need to be on the radio every day personally so i can vent but it's not an ego thing i i don't it's not to build an ego it's it's it's to vent but i love i love love love doing right i

love the process i love the i love the editorial control that you have yeah uh i love that you can take it in whatever direction that you want where you can't do that in television look that's one of things tucker carlson is complaining about now well i wasn't really telling you what i believed other the producers were actually doing all of it yeah well then you just lose complete

credibility because you just admitted you were a sellout yeah i mean it's just like wow and and

so that would be that would be uh you know uh very very very very tough to do but with that comes the fact that if you don't succeed you're gone and right i'll be honest i never thought that i would be i would last this long in the business i never thought but my mentality always was i could be gone like you they could fire me next week i always had that in my head even when i know they could still say you're gone next week they got to pay us for a while but the the fact is you do have you eventually later on in your career you actually do if you've had some kind of success, you know, you do have some guarantee.

Well, I still have that underlying fear, in fact, to the point that next Thursday I have an interview at Costco.

So it's just to make sure. With politics, I view it the same way. You know, I was reading it was almost like an obituary. And it's so sad. Cornyn had a four decade. Well, yeah, for God's sakes, four decades. I look at Congress and say, well, for decades, you know, that's unbelievably long. And one of the biggest, you know, complaints, you know, people talk about, you know, what do you call it? Term limits. We don't believe that's the solution, as many people believe it is, because especially in congressional districts, you know, you don't get anything. And as you see in the state of Texas, if the party, the people that vote for that party are unhappy with the candidate, they can lose even after 40 years and they can lose big. But when I look at a lot of what I saw yesterday, well, the Republican Party is succeeding because they kicked out the incumbent and put this person in. and now the

trump agenda can continue forward well what's the thing that's really ticked off a lot of republicans i think the number one issue was that they couldn't pass the uh the uh they they don't have the votes to you know you know for the save act yeah you know they don't have the votes right basically for voter id yeah and and uh you know and it's like well get rid of the filibuster get rid of the filibuster get rid of the filibuster i don't i never thought the republicans would do that they would wait for the democrats to do it and even if republicans got rid of the filibuster now anything that they could pass could be defeated when democrats took over took power exactly i don't believe my opinion and yours on this case because we're looking towards the future uh you know other other people may have differing viewpoints on it and that and that's fine the concern of the republican party should be to not have any chance of the democrats winning right right it's not it's not you know so whether it was whether it's cornyn or paxton here whether it's a mega person or not mega person it's more important to me that the democrats lose than that the save act passes why because that you can use that to pound on the democrats over and over again yes it's an issue that you've got 80 percent of the 80 what 82 percent 83 percent of the country is it what is it no no it's right around 80 percent because it was like 83 percent of you know whatever i i forgot the exact demographics but it's around 80 yeah well you can use that what's more important to pass that tomorrow or to win in november my focus is winning in november so the democrats don't win and so i didn't care i don't care whether it's paxton or cornyn all i want is the win because either Paxton or Cornyn would be better than Democrats taking over the Senate. And my concern is not right now passing the Trump agenda and the issues on the Trump agenda right now if you can pass them next year because you've got a bunch of senators, you've got the Senate again for a couple more years. and and so to me the the infighting in the republican party is a strength because the republican party can evolve there was an article where is it here uh michael doherty and national review democrats learn how to need to learn how to fight each other and it's like look part of the infighting in the republican party can hurt them but it shows that they're actually the party that's evolving well where the democrats they're not evolving they're not the party of change ever

because they're sticking to their ideological, you know, insanity.

It's for the GOP, it is, for the most part, it's on the issues. There is some tribalism that exists there. With the whole MAGA thing, there were, for a minute, there seemed to be this battle to prove I'm more MAGA than you are to the point, to the extent where some people were trying to say they were more MAGA than Donald Trump. It seemed like they were trying to make that point. The point with the left is it doesn't matter who you are, even if you're a member of my own party, you're the oppressor eventually. And identity politics has set up that model to disintegrate, to erode that unity, and it keeps happening more and more. This is why, you know, Cory Booker over the weekend, you know, party needs new leadership, Andrew Cuomo, you know, what's going on? And you have more and more of these Democrats. I don't consider those names. names there there are no names booker's still active almost i don't know what he's doing um but you know he's probably going to make a run maybe again somewhere at some point but the point is is that i know that it runs deeper throughout the party that there is something fundamentally broken with the democratic party well what it is is exactly what you and i have been describing identity politics you create more and more victims more and more subgroups every day and by definition by default you create more and more oppressors even within your own group and that is a problem and always will be it's not going to change in our lifetime yeah i look at

long-term future of the the Republican Party and I believe it's in much better shape than the Democrats oh yeah because the Democrats won't if they're if they're not willing to evolve now they're not going to evolve right yeah for a long time right we are red-eye radio we'll be right

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We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Yeah, so it was an interesting day yesterday just seeing how everybody was, you know, analyzing it. And, you know, again, my point is simply I want the Democrats to lose. That's all. Yeah.

Yeah.

I really, you know, at this point, because of how radical they are, I'm not really that concerned of who the Republican candidate is unless you have a Plattner in there, which we don't, there is no Plattner on the Republican side.

Yeah, right.

You don't have a commie Nazi. Yeah. So what I care about is whoever can win. And, you know, can Paxton win? yeah you already see that yesterday in the the cbs news interview that uh i'll have to find the audio talarico's already backing off from the positions by the way he's lying everything that he said everything that he said back in 2021 he believes he meant it yes and

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All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Herley, and I'm Gary McNamara. All right, more sports and politics. All right, sport plans. Well, this sort of relates to Plattner in Maine about he's, you know, upset that private equity and billionaires own sports teams yeah his uh his uh idea is that uh private equity has destroyed the boston red sox uh and somebody needs to ask him the question so then who should own sports teams uh but uh this is a new york and new jersey launch investigation into world cup ticket pricing all right new york attorney general letitia james and new jersey attorney general jennifer davenport announced that they have sent subpoenas to the fifa president and others seeking information about their ticket policies quote new yorkers have been waiting for years for the world cup to come into their backyard and they deserve a fair shot at affordable tickets okay it's government's job is the government's job to make sure you have a fair shot

at affordable tickets i will say it's kind of outrageous given the prices if you break it down to the cost per point scored per goal for any given match combined score i mean

with both teams it's pretty expensive per point no one should be here letitia james said no one should be manipulated into paying sky high prices for seats yeah and then also added this is true though fans should be able to trust that the tickets they purchase will be the ones they receive that's true that if that's if you make a contract with the company and they don't you know that they would be a company and they don't fulfill that contract you have every right to go after them for that but the they start out by talking about it's your job to ensure that there's fairness and equity in ticket prices ah fairness and equity okay all right i just love it so uh all right so here we go uh you and i talked yesterday about about talarico and and how he would run his camp.

campaign and we we talked about kamala harris back in 2020 excuse me 2024 yeah and

she never made it because because nobody talked about her in 2020 well she never made it to 2020

because the democrats are racist and sexist that's right now by the way that comes from her yeah she's the one that accused democrats of being racist and sexist back in 2020 that's right she was abandoned before christmas yeah the 2019 democrats were so racist and sexist they said now let her through thanksgiving but no way is she getting past christmas that's right it's the holiday season but we we had talked about and we talked about this a couple of weeks ago too that that when uh uh you know and that was because kamala harris is still you know at the top of the the bunch of who Democrats want to run in 2028 and we had gone back all the way in fact I found the the ex post that I put out where I said Donald Trump and this goes back to like June of uh of uh 2024 and I said Trump is uniting the nation yeah and I got some great responses because of it and because Kamala now, and that's when she ran that ad where she said she's going to be tougher on the border. She didn't believe in open borders. She talked about a wall and a bunch of other topics that Trump was leading in. She said, no, I'm going to try to co-opt him on that. I'm going to try to beat him on that. It didn't last long. The left would not allow her to do

that many people don't even remember she promised to invade Greenland and so she uh she pulled back

from that yeah because she couldn't sell it to the Democrats and I remember you and I in the in the midterm of 2006 we have long memories wow it's 20 years ago Eric it's 20 years ago wow but the midterm of 2006 after the election we went wow that uh that and democrats did very well but it was really after that 2006 election where democrats were not trying to run or even before we're not trying to run as much to the middle yeah they're always trying to run to the middle and really since then and as we even get up to you know the last election or you look at you know in california whatever they they they cannot moderate whatsoever and the question would be will talarico try to do it and would he be successful he's trying already he's walking back the things he said already uh was interviewed by ed o'keefe who by the way one of the criticisms of ed o'keefe was like and uh barry weiss we hope you're listening he didn't push back yeah he just had some question he answered he went to the next question right answer go to the next question didn't say well wait a minute and and uh he starts by asking him about the the six biological sexes all right all right and and listen to this muddled answer and he did not get pushback from ed o'keefe

at all here we go let me let me run one more by you because again the president other republicans are bringing it up again in 2021 though while debating a bill that restricted transgender student-athletes you said modern science acknowledges six biological variations based on chromosomes to argue that sex is a nuanced spectrum, not a strict binary. Do you still believe there are six biological sexes?

I know there are two sexes, men and women. I also know there's a very small percentage of people who have these chromosomal abnormalities, and I believe they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

Okay, now he went to a, never challenged him on that. Right, right. And he's making the case that every transgender has a chromosome differentiation, and that's not true.

Right. I don't know anybody that's ever tried to make that case.

No. No. Then I don't keep just let that slide right by.

Yeah. Because you would stop and say, based on what? Show me that data.

Yeah. but you said six biological sexes yeah yeah and by the way you know and again scientists did by the way scientists didn't agree with that by the way he was lying back

back then when he said it right and liberal activists didn't agree with it because they believe there's a lot more than six right right well we had said at the time well who was when Biden said. how many genders are there three we went oh my god you can't give a you can't give a number like that you're done so but there's him attempting let's see this next question here we go all right okay hang on uh we ready here we go all right in respect the other one they keep harping on

and it's perhaps the most curious of all they say you're a vegan i'm not a vegan i'm an eighth

generation texan i've been eating barbecue since before kim paxton's first indictment and this campaign basically runs on on texas barbecue uh if all they have is lying about me being a vegan i feel pretty good about our chances but they're not lying you said it right you said it

you said you're a vegan i mean it's it's like they're not lying about it and on and he was asked also the other question was on the border where he said that uh you know that uh the republicans are lying he had said remember he and we had played the audio before i think we played in the last couple of days where he uh but this was uh back then but he said that um uh the border should be like the front porch right where the welcome you you right with the welcome at you welcome the the good people in uh but not the bad people well then my next question would be and he's trying to make the case no i just said let the it's an open border for good people but he's trying to make the case that he said you know that that uh to give the impression that he was against sanctuary cities and he's not right because that would be our next question so are you against sanctuary cities where illegal immigrant criminals are protected right right so this is his attempt to lie by again projecting and calling the republicans liars about things that he clearly said and so you have to you've got to go after him for that and uh again ed o'keefe just did you hear him laugh ed o'keefe laughed yeah he said you know the paxton indictment i mean it was it was barry weiss ed o'keefe did a horrible job right just

let him answer just let him go well it's it's it was a propaganda piece yep if you're not going to hit them back if you're not going to question every answer that comes at every response that comes at you you're not doing journalism just just hand him the mic and let him just talk and and lie yeah because that's basically what you did that's not journalism but it shows

it it it shows a change that the tallarico people believe after over a decade of not attempting to go to the middle because remember that was always what they were attempting to do kamala tried it and failed on a national level right tallarico and his campaign now believe it's time to move to the middle and lie about where james tallarico really stands right and the belief is or the hope is that democrats in texas know he's lying just like when remember when obama said i'm grappling with gay marriage and remember the gay activists were were uh the the pro-gay marriage activists uh were were talking about later on ago no we all knew he was lying everybody knew he was lying he

wasn't grappling with it he was lying because the difference was is that and not exactly a Sunday morning talk show but Ellen DeGeneres and her daytime talk show that and she brought on John McCain you know what do you believe in terms of gay marriage and he was his response marriage is between a man and a woman Obama had said the same thing already and look we had our issues with john mccain in terms of him being a senator but if you're talking about two different parties the candidates for each party being questioned and at the exact same issue one gets away with it and the other one and and they get away with it because exactly what you just said no we know he's lying we're okay with him lying just and then all of a sudden he was

grappling and evolving now what you do here because unfortunately we have to help the republicans on basic uh communication skills you take everything that he said in that interview here's what james tallarico said this week here's what he said back then and those are the ads that you make and then you say james tallarico is lying to you he doesn't

want you to know what he would really do as a senator right and i'll say this why because adults don't change their mind on basic issues right adults don't all of a sudden change their mind on foundational issues they don't right and those are foundational issues right you don't go from saying there are six biological sexes that are proven by scientists and then five years later say oh no there's only two there's only two but there are some chromosomal differences which are not that does not explain the radical transgender movement at all but on the border i'd say oh fine then oh and he said he criticized he criticized obama you know for uh you know for the border did he i want to see if he's got that on there whether he would i don't believe he did i don't i don't remember any democrat until you got to election time that said biden's got to do something on the border he's going to lose because of it and then at that point they were saying you've got to do something right but it wasn't that biden didn't do the job on the border he did do the job on the border he did exactly biden was totally successful in his border plan yeah his border plan was to open the damn border yep and he succeeded and then when politically it worked against him at the end who was it uh minority whip katherine clark the other day oh well he got the border under control he got the i think he was there she was on cnbc he got the border under control uh by the by the end of his term yeah he made me so he actually got it under control by the end he caused it yeah yes and they didn't challenge her on that either no they didn't challenge her

no no and it's and these are basic this does not you know a third grader could go through those these points that we're making here the you're not getting in the weeds on these issues these are very simple issues with very few moving parts and i would ask you to say well you said it's like

a front porch you welcome everybody but the bad people you don't if they're bad you don't welcome And my next question would be, so you're against sanctuary cities.

Yeah, right.

Right. This isn't that hard, Republicans. You know, I just, again, I don't want the Democrats to win. No. So let's not celebrate too much primary victories.

Yeah.

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we are on our radio he's here for me and i'm gary mcnamara this is really interesting just a ton of audio today this is uh michael la rosa former uh chief spokesperson uh he for jill biden jill and for joe biden in the 2020 uh campaign so this is a loyal loyal democrat talking about platner and talking about democrats in well democrats in washington here we go this has always been

sort of a white whale for democrats this seat um and susan collins and she won by collins won by nine points being outraised outspent both two to one by the democrat uh and the democrat out I've polled Susan Collins for a year in all of the public polling. What's funny to me.

is that Democrats in D.C. in the consultant class or the activist class think that somehow that guy right there represents what real America and normal America wants back home or outside of D.C. It's not. I mean, if Maine wants a self-proclaimed communist and a guy who has Nazi tattoos and talks about his masturbation habits and mocks wounded U.S. soldiers who were shot by the Taliban, Maine is going to have that choice. They can make that choice. They will make it in November. No.

Well, I learned something new during that audio.

Yes, I did not know about the habits, the habits, the habits, the ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, probably because I didn't want to. Ah, ah, ah, I've got the Seinfeld term. now i did not know about the self-gratification

well if you're a nazi are you automatically the master of your own domain hey i don't wait i would think that's the case but i don't huh we're we're just asking questions

we're not trying to be suggested we're not bringing it up we're just we're responding

to these idiots we're just that we're trying to listen we're trying to understand the political landscape currently in america that's all we're doing we're grappling with all of this we're grappling we're just a couple of simple fellas just trying to learn

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So this audio was actually from CNN from from election night. Yeah. And it was the it was Scott Jennings, CNN's Laura Coates and Democrat strategist from Texas, Chuck Rocha. So here this is. OK.

All right, listen to this. All right, here we go. And I think the race is still likely or lean Republican tonight. But look, they got to run the race.

Hold on, Chuck is already laughing at the most radical. Is that hyperbole that you can relate to at all?

Look, I'm going to say that Ken Paxton is the most flawed, corrupt, divorced, biblical. All these things is what this campaign wants to be about when Scott Jennings and me are on this TV. But to the voters of Texas, it's going to be whether you care more about pronouns or gas prices. if you care more about what the price of your utility bill is or what gender you are. Right now in Texas, I've been pulling all over Texas, not just for Tallarico, but when you go to somebody's house and ask them what's your biggest concern, it's normally how they're going to make ends meet, not about, like, who's got to pee pee and who don't.

So he wants this race. I'm going to let that go for a second. But he wants that race, right, Tallarico? You're just going to let that go? I'm letting the pee pee go right now. Yes, I am. At 11.07, maybe the pee pee comes back. But right now at 11.04, I'm going to get back to the pee pee. Please, because I'm a lady, boys. I'm a lady. Settle down.

So I'm sorry, but all I keep thinking is Mr. Bookman from Seinfeld. You like that, Seinfeld? Trying to protect the kids from opening a book and seeing a bunch of pee-pees and wee-wees. But I will say one thing. if the republicans lose it's because i read what jim garrity put on x yesterday jim garrity from national review the president and his administration is laser focused on everything except affordability and if the republicans lose they lose because they've ignored it yeah end of story that'll be the reason the only weakness republicans have right now is affordability and they don't seem to care yep and and it is absolutely amazing to me that there seems to be no concern about it whatsoever you cannot talk your way by bringing up any successes elsewhere at all about affordability and the lesson is biden yeah yeah he lost because of the border affordability yep that's prices yep and also the radical transgender movement which became uh you know the the women's issue of 2024 but every one of those were on the side you know where the public voted uh against that was for republicans because republicans were saying we'll solve all of those problems right the number one important thing that affects people the most affordability and the republicans don't seem to care and this administration doesn't seem to care at all they talk a good game but nothing and i'm not talking just about gas prices well i'm talking about everything across the board uh i got a i want to read this here uh i got a here it is david uh wrote us yesterday when we were talking about it gas prices are too high but i'm not going to sell our beautiful country for a dollar 69 um i'm not going to change my vote right it's not about you david and it's not about me as i said my major thing whether they're weak republicans or strong republicans they're not insane democrats that's all i care is that democrats don't win right and doesn't matter how you think david doesn't matter how i think it's understanding the public at large remember and you look you said it i'll never forget because you made a big deal out of it

after after 20 uh the 2016 election why he won uh about the wall street journal article that went to harlem and said to people that actually voted for hillary at that time why did trump win trump won because he talked about issues that affect us here at home hillary's talking about everything else except what affects us here at home and now republicans are making the exact same mistake the only thing republicans have is competence in other areas that they have done in things like deregulation and everything else but you can and and uh if the president succeeds in getting a deal with iran and the middle east that will also be great but still the number one issue is the economy stupid and we found that again back in 2024 well and and and the problem here too is that if

If enough people, enough of the voting public, believe that Democrats are going to start handing out checks, which, by the way, it won't happen because they will not get a voting, they will not get a veto-proof majority. That's not going to happen. But it doesn't matter. If their perception is they'll do better with the economy, or if the perception is that I need to send a message to the GOP that they suck on the economy, just as punishment, even if they believe, well, I probably won't get anything for a couple of years, but if I give the Democrats momentum, if I help give Democrats momentum, and they get the White House in a couple of years, and they have the House and the Senate, then they start writing checks again. When people are underwater, they don't care anything about the national. Nobody cares anything about the national debt, our audience not included. But the American people have given up on the national debt and have. In fact, I wonder if they ever cared about it. So in terms of writing checks, in terms of handing out free stuff, those free promises, whether they even come to fruition or not the free promises will drive people and they always have in a bad economy if if they if and it's hard to say bad economy right now because there are many things in the economy that are great but if your own personal economy at home your own budget is failing over and over again and you're underwater and you've got nowhere else to turn you think about where what people are doing on side gigs everything they're doing to earn extra money and wages aren't keeping up and now inflation ticking up again and we know what's driving this this uptick in inflation which is why we've got to if you get back to the iran thing we've got this mission has to be completed for every reason for number one for the mission itself and number two politically you want this to be done sooner than later so you can get the benefit of that and again i mentioned yesterday it could be that by comparison if the mission in iran is completed to the point that oil comes back down um which means if energy prices are down food prices will settle somewhat because the transportation of goods will also uh be cheaper if the 150 days, which is up in July, on his current tariffs runs out and there's nothing else that he's going to throw at the courts or is going to be extended by that.

By comparison, there may be some positive effect. I wouldn't count on that. Right now, as we've said all along, I used to say, run like you're 20 points behind, run like you're 80 points behind. Yeah. And that's exactly what has to be done.

You can have all the you can have all the cabinet meetings like he had publicly yesterday. And that's where I think Garrity had the comment, Jim Garrity from National Review. They're laser focused on everything except affordability. Yeah. But we said this yesterday and I agree with you. That's why I said if they lose, they can. Republicans can still win because the Democrats are so bad. And in the polling, it has showed up to this point that even though the administration gets horrible marks on the economy, the people don't believe that the Democrats are the solution. Right, right. So, again, you don't know. And I agree with you. If the war can end, and then even remember, as we said earlier, though, if we weren't in this war, prices might have moderated. Because remember, the amount of tariffs went down drastically. Right. You know, they're probably raising what? A third of what they were before with Trump's new tariffs. So that would have moderated, that might have moderated prices. And if we weren't in the Iran war, prices, the inflation numbers could be looking, you know, really, really good. But they're not going to come down. You know, that's the point. gasoline will come down and maybe there will be some products because of shipping that might come down a little bit well they yeah i think that would i think that's going to happen actually

in in a considerable way because of of where diesel has been uh diesel prices which again is the shipment roof yeah and and so but it depends on on the level of the drop you know i know that's a captain obvious statement but i don't know where diesel will settle

after this gasoline may settle.

Thank you.

But then again, if it happens in the middle of the summer, still in the heart of driving season, and I don't know what will happen again or how far of a drop the diesel prices would be in the event that we get the Strait of Hormuz settled. And we'll see where it goes. uh it's as it always is i think the markets are kind of skittish i think even with any kind of agreement uh framework whatever you want to call it on the straight of hormuz it's going to be i think it's going to be slower i think the markets are going to be a little timid and and and and really going dropping those prices in a dramatic way i hope i'm wrong about that but the the point is i don't think they'll trust an agreement i think they'll they'll believe that there's at any moment that that chaos could ensue in the strait of hormuz but i will say yesterday when they the

attack that uh they went after the iranian ground control station that was about to launch yeah another drone yes these actions were measured purely defensive and intended to maintain the

ceasefire yeah well the wall street journal by the way had a very interesting story yesterday about how the Chinese are buying oil secretly and they've got this set of clandestine ships where they're actually running a line, filling these ships with oil and selling them to China. Iran is still selling oil to China. I don't know the volume. I didn't get that far into the story, but that's a problem. And if that's not if that's not completely controlled and settled, you know, there's going to be a problem long term.

My chuckle was military action is intended to protect the ceasefire. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're going to war to protect the ceasefire. We are Red Eye Radio.

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We're on a radio. He's Eric Crowley, and I'm Gary McNamara. I tell you, though, it's going to be an interesting next five months. It really is.

No, it may be one of the most, well, I guess we say this every season. Yeah, the new one always is. But the latest is always the most interesting because now there are so many factors that are involved here in determining, well, trying to grasp, guess, poll, determine what the American people are worried about and how that's going to drive votes. Again, pricing is going to be a big driver, but will it be outdone by the absurdity, the insanity of the left? Because the absurdity and insanity isn't just the libs of TikTok moments. it's it's about the threat the existing threat of what has become the violent left justifying taking lives or attempting to take lives uh coming after your children and control of your children these are very serious issues and that definitely will outweigh pricing with some people it has to be enough though

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