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Weekend coming up.

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Flying to see Dad.

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Flying out at, really, I'm in there for 25 hours. Yeah, well. I fly in at, I think it's like noon today, get in at 4. Hang out, see Dad for a while.

Mm-hmm.

Go back to the hotel, get a good night's sleep, go back, see dad in the morning, go out to breakfast with my sisters and my nieces and nephews and maybe my brother-in-law and whatever, and then go back and see my dad for a couple more hours, get back on a plane, come back.

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And I had to get my jeans back out. I've been wearing shorts, not to work. I've got lighter long pants that I wear here. but i had to pull my jeans my jeans were were basically packed away till next fall and then i

realized oh man it's going to be in the 40s i wear jeans all all year round yeah i just can't it's just too hot um i never know when i'm going to get on a horse

no i'm i'm already it's i'm already thinking that you gotta wear you know jeans to the airport at like, you know, 9, 10 o'clock, 9.30 this morning, it's going to be 80 already. I just, I just, I hate cold and I hate heat. I don't mind heat if I'm not wearing long pants and long shirts.

Like summer vacations, you know, the beach and that thing, of course. But nine times out of 10, even in the summer, I'm wearing jeans. It's a thing. And, you know, it's also, I don't wear, like, sandals. I see a lot of people, and it's fine where they, you know, they're wearing sandals to whatever, the store and everything else. For me, I always want to be wearing shoes I can run in, you know, because of the cops, mainly because of the cops. no i i i always feel like i may need shoes that are sturdier you know and i don't know

what that feeling comes from wait till you get to be my age my shoes are totally for comfort with special insoles and no i've got everything to you know make sure i i've got the most comfortable shoes but it's just i don't want to wear the open toe shoes that's what i mean Yeah, but the sandals aren't the same. You can't. I mean, you've got to wear – we need our support. Yeah. But I have – when I walk, I can feel the cushion. Oh, yeah, me too. Yeah, my shoes are great. I think I lower an inch when I step down. It's like –

Yeah, and I added more padding inside my shoes. I've got the memory foam shoes that I buy, but I add more padding inside them, and they're extremely comfortable. But I don't, like, I see people all the time wearing sandals, like, everywhere. Our age? Oh, yeah. Excuse me. Your age? Yeah. No, your age.

My age, really?

Yeah, which is really, really, really, really, really old.

Yeah, I never, I just never been a, never been a sandal.

I saw a guy yesterday, he was probably your age. And alive? Upright, yes. And as far as I know. And he had a Hawaiian shirt on. And he had bright colored shorts and some open-toed sandals. And, you know, we're not near a beach. but i thought to myself no this is cool this is good if this you know it could be just in my he could have just decided in my retirement years in the summer i'm just going to be always every day is going to be a vacation this is how i'm going to dress and good for him i have one hawaiian

shirt that i wear uh on uh on fourth of july on independence day because it's all flags and fireworks it's just but you really can't you know

I have one that's very expensive, and so I'm very careful about where I wear it.

I may wear it on Flag Day in a couple of weeks. Yeah. All right, so here we go. All right.

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I saw this and I went, whoa, it was an op-ed piece from Teddy Daniels. Here's the headline. I'm the soldier that Graham Plattner mocked. He's the one with the purple heart. Yeah. Democratic men are having an identity crisis. He's a prime example. Democratic men are having an identity crisis. Maine's Graham Plattner, the party's presumptive nominee for U.S. Senate, is a prime example. Mr. Plattner presents himself as a savior for working-class Americans, while his background screams the opposite, and his offensive comments about fellow veterans including me speak poorly of his character the tough talking marine veteran struts around in his carhartt jacket and jeans but recent reporting relates that he comes from a prestigious family where he had access to elite private school education and the lifestyle of privilege he also plays up his job as an oyster farmer but the only Any client mentioned in his federal financing disclosure was the restaurant his mother owns. Mr. Plattner has been caught disparaging the service of fellow veterans like decorated Navy SEAL Chris Kyle and Vice President J.D. Vance. He also disparaged me while commenting on a viral video of a firefight in which I sustained numerous wounds from a Taliban ambush. I received a Purple Heart for my injuries, but Mr. Plattner cheered for my death from behind a keyboard. Kyle, Mr. Vance, and I did not grow up privileged. Kyle's father worked for the phone company. We all know Mr. Vance's story. I was the son of a brick mason father and a mother who worked in a textile mill. My father, who died of cancer several years ago, would have had a field day with Mr. Plattner. He was always talking about the spoiled rich kid politicians who come out to the job sites to get votes and take pictures. Dad would comment on the work boots they wore, boots that never saw a day of work, and their Carhartt jackets, which still had creases from being on the shelf at the tractor supply company store. Flannel shirt and all, Graham Plattner is tim waltz on steroids an entitled brat who campaigns with socialist bernie sanders a real man by the lights of the democratic party he presents himself as relatable to working class americans but in reality he's the typical elitist who believes blue-collar hard-working salt-of-the-earth rural americans are stupid and racist i couldn't care less

about the comments he made about me but they are a reflection of his character i never thought i'd see the day when democrats would even consider backing a candidate like this well yeah i mean a common nazi yeah yeah and by the way if you've just heard that you go what did you say uh we're combining communist and nazi because that's right yes you know he's he's having a problem you know he was a nazi now he's a communist and we said you know you're you're making a you know interesting leap there so we decided just to encompass it all because platner can't decide does he wish to be more like hitler or stalin and that has to be something you know that that might that would keep me up nights if if that was my mindset if that was a narrative in my mind do i want to be hitler or stalin right yeah so we just came up with common nazi right we combined the commie nazi yeah commie nazi right so i thought it was really uh interesting it's like oh wow this is the guy that he mocked who got the Purple Heart. There he is, Wall Street Journal. No problem giving him an op-ed piece. All right, CBS News fires those two 60-minute correspondents and top producer. Here we go. And I just love the panic on the left. They're taking away journalism. No. it's barry weiss barry weiss is not a conservative yeah barry weiss lifelong liberal yep who said just like bernard goldberg these are not journalists they're political activists and we said from the very beginning we said hmm don't know where you're going to go with the nightly news i don't know where she's going to go on 60 minutes i don't know there when there's an expectation when the brand that you have even if cbs for example uh back a few years ago would promote themselves as journalists with integrity they were not and everybody knew it yeah everybody knew it right right and and they're they you know most journalists that that are call themselves journalists are political activists and they don't they don't have any shame you would think that after being completely wrong and buying into the lie that trump colluded with the russians to hack the election that there would be some soul searching there was never any and you and i remember that after the um uh oh what what the when when the investigation was done on the Mueller report came out and you had conservatives out there saying we hope this teaches the mainstream media a lesson that they need to be more like journalists and we said stop that shut up yeah don't do that they're not journalists they're political activists there's no shame they just move on to the next lie the

next piece of propaganda they have no interest in the truth right and and so don't because when you say that you come off as idiots even if i agree with you politically you come off like an idiot especially to you know those people because they understand they're political activists they know they're not journalists they have no interest in journalism right and so when you see today number one when you see that when you see and and that was the brand the brand was you go to cbs and okay you support leftist causes you're not going to treat a conservative or a republican like you are a democrat everybody knows it right now the left is fine with it we have said we don't know if there's a market now i saw that the cbs evening news was up a little bit last week but they're still in third place right yeah and uh i you know i don't know if there's a market out there we become so tribal in our news i don't know if there's a market and whether you can sell because already what the left is saying is you're not going to get the left to watch you you may get some on the right but the right already has if you're coming across and saying you know we want to do pure journalism we're fair and balanced whatever fox already has that they already use that and they get a republican conservative audience to watch them yeah you've got newsmax you know also out there is there a room to to brand yourself i don't know if there's the market space available yeah right even though i approve of what she's doing i don't know whether the market exists for financial success i hope it does i would love to you know i think about

um when john malone who who's part of the uh discovery group uh and uh he's you know he's a he's a big media mogul uh when they were acquiring cnn and he mentioned that he would like to see CNN go back to the old headline news days and you and I yawned like boring and and because I don't think there's a market for that I don't think there's a market with me for that and basically saying he wanted to take all of the bias out of it I get what he's saying I know what what you know i'd like to go back to the time when well but we're not in that time i don't mind that they have opinionated shows but don't call the the anchors journalists and when it comes to cbs you're talking about having to revamp an entire news organization basically from the top that's why barry weiss was was brought in i don't know how you do that i don't because i can i can only think of a handful uh you know if you're going to bring in

real journalists to do real work um matt taibbi michael schellenberger barry weiss there's three you know i mean we we think of the those that were associated with the twitter files um and and how many people came to know them um there are a few others that have done honest work as you mentioned fox news kind of has the you know fair and balanced thing uh tied up in terms of their branding and i don't know that barry weiss wants to be a fox news but in terms of actual fair and balanced journalism it is going to be you're going to have to and and and maybe she does search the world and i do mean that the world for people who want to do true journalism which i've always said is a critical part of a free society real journalism is a critical part of a free society but i don't know how you populate that newsroom and i don't know how

you populate uh the management lineup well we looked at it this way if you had a heavy metal station yeah all right you're the heavy metal station yeah and you decide to change the format to country right do you keep the djs no no no you're not or reverse you've got a country they're not going to keep you yeah yeah right exactly they're not they're not going to keep you because you don't fit you don't fit the brand right there's no way barry weiss was going to change the political activism of 60 minutes you got to get rid of everybody yeah if you don't get rid of everybody you can't do it yeah right because you're asking them to do something that You're asking a plumber to be a police officer or a police officer to be a plumber. Exactly. And the analogy is they're not built to do that.

They're completely different jobs. They're not driven to do that. Not that they wouldn't eventually, through training, may be able to get it done. But you're talking at the core. These individuals don't want to be journalists. They want to be activists.

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we are red eye radio uh he is eric carley and uh i'm gary mcnamara all right we we got to talk about this the the the dallas morning news goes after uh paxton here for saying the tallarico is a a vegan all right and they're saying the dallas morning news this is just great uh and trump made a a similar statement saying he's a vegan but public evidence doesn't show that tallarico was denied being a vegan multiple times and was recently pictured eating meat and as they say they go it comes from uh tallarico's critics point to a 2022 speech during a fundraiser for a group that lobbies for humane animal treatment at the time he was running for re-election for the texas house of representatives during the speech talarico said reducing meat consumption is the moral thing to do and necessary to fight climate change i am proud to say that our campaign has officially become a non-meat campaign so we are only buying vegan products from our local vegan businesses he said adding everyone has to take personal responsibility in this effort he did not say in the clip he is a vegan nobody said we and are And it's his campaign. It's his campaign. He is the campaign.

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and he is eric crowley and i'm gary mcnamara welcome and uh good morning so that is what was so hilarious uh about uh the the whole dallas morning news uh going after paxton and trump uh for saying tallarico is a vegan and they said well he didn't say he was a vegan all he said in 2022 was that his entire campaign would be vegan yeah right and he said we and are it's his campaign so he is the campaign right he is there is no the campaign does not exist for any other reason except for him right now the only other possibility that you could get out of it is he was attempting to deceive the people that he was talking to by saying the campaign would go vegan, but he would not. Right, yeah. And so he would be lying and he would be a hypocrite by not specifically saying the campaign will go vegan, but I'm not a vegan. He didn't say that. Right. the dallas morning news my god i mean you're talking about way you're talking i knew when

we played the audio earlier this week i knew someone on the left or a leftist newspaper or somebody was going to try and make that point well he didn't say he he said we he was referring to the campaign he is the campaign it's it's it's just um here imagine this imagine this you know a paul mccartney he's he's everybody knows he's a vegan right and so imagine this we as a band the beatles back in the day i mean he became a vegan after the beatles but imagine the beatles you know were together and all of a sudden he just said you know we're becoming vegans and by we i mean ringo george and john not me the band is vegan i'm not vegan that's so laughable to try and make that point we we it's this it is this virtue signaling garbage and by the way also fence walking no i'm i'm you know i look i like barbecue i eat barbecue right yeah you know you're going to need some meat eaters to vote for you carnivores because the vegans are too weak to get themselves to the polls

they're gonna need some help getting to the polls it's just so stupid just so stupid again what i get out of this was he was attempting to deceive the group that he was talking to in 2022 if he's not a vegan he was lying to them by omitting by implying that the campaign and i love it because dallas morning news in order to do the mental gymnastics has to pretend that the campaign has nothing to do with him and when he says our and we that that doesn't that's not inclusive to him right yes exactly and he didn't say look we're going to be vegan for the campaign but i've never been a vegan before and i don't plan to be a vegan now and i don't be plan to be a vegan afterwards he gave the impression that was the lifestyle that he led and he did it because of cruelty to animals but most importantly climate change so he was attempting he was attempting to deceive at the minimum he was attempting to deceive the far left organization that he was talking to

yeah right

it's just so stupid uh and i would just uh

for Republicans, just continue to play it over and over again. You don't, by the way, a lot of these things, you don't need to explain anything. Just play the audio. You don't have to explain to people. They can come to their own decisions based on his words alone. Yep. The Dallas Morning News, my God. He didn't say Percy was a vegan. I love it. Just greatness. Oh, my gosh. So I had to, we just, we had to bring that, we had to just bring that one up. All right. We didn't even talk about, we didn't even talk about Iran.

Yeah. Well, the framework, the discussion of the framework of the, and by the way, The only person that didn't seem to be talking a lot about it yesterday was the president.

Yeah, that's a great point.

Because everybody, you know, when it first hit, it was like, well, if the president approves it. I thought, well, wait a minute. Hold on a second. What do you mean, if the president approves it? Then is there anybody on the president's team? You know, I think of Marco Rubio. No, because Marco Rubio, if there's something that's going back and forth and he receives it and believes the president would be on board, we'd hear pretty quickly from the president. And the president didn't seem to be very vocal about that at all. Yes. No, not at all. You think there. So, OK. A few possibilities. that the first being does this work for us politically to delay it basically another 60 days or are we going to have our base upset that we're not going to finish this thing because what they're trying to do I mean if they're delaying this this kicking the can kicking the iran can down the road thing is you know you can say well it settles the mark i don't think it settles the market uh let me check and see i haven't checked it in a few hours let me see where oil is right now uh oil is at 88 and change you know but you know you're not in the territory of all right we're we're getting that it's dropping dramatically dropping dramatically because a delay really doesn't tell us anything a delay could mean total chaos in 60 days or at any moment between now and that 60-day deadline or or whatever it is whatever you know they're going to call it so i i don't trust any of it i don't trust iran iran had some harsh words you know and they and and iran did kind of admit yesterday that well yeah the red line you know basically is the enriched uranium well yeah we all know that that's not news i think it was reuters where i wrote it or read it and i thought why that's not a story i mean i guess if iran makes a statement on anything it is a story but it it's it doesn't

it's not new well when i saw it the first thing i saw yesterday there'd be a there'd be a possible future framework yeah uh of a potential ceasefire and i'm just like don't costanza this that's the first thing i thought don't and i'm talking to the the the media outlet that wrote that i can't remember who wrote it but that was the first thing that came to my mind was don't costanza this yeah uh because first off it was almost as if there was going to be a peace deal and then it was like well no they've got a potential framework for a uh you know for a hopefully uh a future ceasefire deal and negotiate the nuclear stuff down the road now there isn't anybody that didn't say well that's exactly what iran wants yeah right but the devil's always in the details i won't say that yet because i don't know what the ceasefire will require but one of the concerns is

Even if they get, this is a big concern, that even if you are able to get the uranium, are you saying you will fully allow Iran to keep all of their oil money and start it all up, funding their terrorist proxies again? Right. How do you stop that from happening? Right. You know, what do you do at, you know, what do you do at that, you know, at that point? But I don't know if that's what's going to go on. I don't believe anything, really. I just go by, I go by what everybody says and then, you know, by what the sources say. And then we analyze whether, you know, what the consequences of that would be. But I personally don't know, especially with Trump being as quiet, because it really was starting at midday, didn't it? Yeah, it did. Trump still needs to do it. And then nothing from Trump all day. Nothing.

Yeah, I, I, I, something's odd about this one, because if Trump wanted to calm the markets, he would have said something positive. Hey, we're getting very close, very close. Yeah, very close. He's done it many times. and and this just seemed to be crickets man and that's unusual from him and it it it has me wondering okay before he gives the rubber stamp it it tells me one of two things one possibility is that they've got Iran on board fully and all he has to do is sign it and give the rubber stamp But before he does that, he's got to assess the political effect of it.

Well, as he as I saw Larry Kudlow and was it Jesse Waters talking yesterday, saying the president came out and said he doesn't care about the midterms at all. And that shows the guts that he has. Of course, he's considering the midterm. Yeah. Stop it. yeah you know of course he's considered the politics of it is extremely important as to what's going on right now you know don't don't say the politics and prices don't matter it's one of the reasons they've been so optimistic they're trying to keep gas prices down we all know it don't bs i said when kudlow said it sort of ticked me off because uh kudlow has you know at times jumped into the you know the bs department and that was clearly in the bs department of course trump cares about politics right of course he does political consequences of it so stop it i know he says he doesn't and the democrats use it against him and and then his supporters will say no it shows he has the the uh the the guts but are they looking at political consequences yes because the things that trump has already accepted and this going on this long is not something we went to war with them because the president wasn't accepting this kind of thing right right yep so look he's in a tough he's in a tough position i understand that but Let's not BS. And I agree with what the president has done so far. Yeah. You know, and if we end it now, I'm still concerned about the, you know, the oil money and what happens to them as a country. You know, this isn't, you know, the president, remember, a month and a half ago, it was a month ago, five weeks ago. the only acceptable thing was unconditional surrender we're no longer talking unconditional surrender right nobody is if that came to fruition it would be great but no one is talking about that

not even the president no no and and i think that it's quite possible that that scenario i lined out could be in play because the president seems to be hesitant he's he hasn't been quiet at all about any of these moves about we've got a deal we're close to a deal until now which tells me it really is up to him and he's wondering if this is the right thing because is this going to backfire on him politically and is he going to look weak if he does this we are red eye radio

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We are on our radio. He is Eric Carley, and I'm Gary McNamara. I saw this on CNBC, Eric, just five years ago. Yeah. Five years ago, just a little over 5% of auto loans were $1,000 or more a month. Wow. Now, that was 5% five years ago. Now, latest first quarter this year, 19% of auto loans, $1,000 a month or more.

My gosh.

And not, the majority are not luxury vehicles.

That's insane. It's insane. I know. Well, no wonder younger people don't want to own cars. Forget it. I'll Uber. I don't have to pay insurance. I mean, if they live in an area that's kind of close to everything, in a metro area, it might make sense for them. I'll live closer to work. I'll get a roommate. We'll Uber. We'll, you know, whatever.

and i'm not a thousand plus that doesn't include insurance you saw the oems are scaling back on their projections they believe they may have fewer sales this year than last year yeah not good

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