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Thank you everyone for subscribing to the show on Rumble on YouTube. On this show we go beyond the headlines trying to uncover what they don't want you to know about. That's what our show is all about. Welcome in. And today we're going to look at the Iran war and what is actually going on behind the scenes right now as the energy crisis unfolds. We're seeing numbers we have never seen before. President Trump basically vowing, of course, total destruction of Iran if they don't come to the table and make an agreement. So Professor Pape is going to be here because he had a prediction the other day on april 12th he predicted that within 10 days that we are going to see a major energy collapse essentially and we're about two days away from

that so we're going to speak with him we're also going to talk about energy lockdowns already happening in europe we're also going to talk about eugenics in the netherlands a new bill would allow them to create embryos from any stem cell meaning a dude could create a baby embryo They said, this is just for science, but this is very Epstein-esque. Great. I just made up that word, Epstein-esque. You don't want anything that's that. So we're going to talk about that. It's shocking.

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Johnson said this was piracy. This was an act of war, trying to clear the Strait of Hormuz, saying it was trying to break the American blockade. Tehran called the move armed piracy and vowed a response to this. Meanwhile, a U.S. team led by J.D. Vance was heading to Islamabad, Pakistan, for a new round of talks, even though the Iranian side say they haven't even agreed to anything. So J.D. Vance essentially might be going into an empty room. He's going to sort of sitting there and maybe maybe they'll have some tea and coffee and you can just sort of sit there and no iranians show up to talk to him fox's tel aviv reporter says trump called him talked to him on the phone and told him they're going to blow up everything in iran if they don't come to the

table watch i just spoke with president trump for about 20 minutes and he told me if iran does not sign this deal the whole country is getting blown up he went on to say that bridges and power plants will be targeted if Iran does not sign this agreement. The president telling me that U.S. Special Envoys Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff are heading to Islamabad, Pakistan, for meetings on Tuesday, possibly into Wednesday, to try and get this agreement across the finish line. The president telling Fox News this is a very simple deal, but this is the last chance for the Iranians. The president very clear in our conversation that he is not making the same mistake that President Obama made, giving cash to the Iranians and allowing them to continue a nuclear program. The deal on the table is to reopen the Strait of Hormuz to ensure that the Iranians do not have this highly enriched uranium that is buried deep underground after Operation Midnight Hammer last summer. And again, the president telling Fox News that the entire country will be blown up, bridges and power plants will be targeted if the Iranians do not sign this agreement.

So Fox News sure loves that. Absolutely. Professor Robert Pape is the director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats at the University of Chicago and the author of Escalation Trap on Substack. Professor, great to have you here on the show. Welcome.

Thank you very much. It's really quite a pleasure to be with you.

Well, it's our honor. And I wanted to kind of wind the clock back to something you posted a few days ago on April 12th about where we are heading. Within 10 days, parts of the global economy will start running short of critical goods. After 30 years, as you've been studying economic sanctions and blockades, you don't see this lightly. Well, we're about two days away now from your sort of prediction. Anything you want to change in your prediction or maybe accelerate it?

Yeah, we're ahead of schedule. So just four or five days after I made that prediction, and by the way, there's a much longer paper on the substack that really goes into it. Of course, you can't do that in a tweet. That jet fuel, we're running about a month, it's about a month before we're going to be out of jet fuel in Europe. And you're already seeing that airliners are already cutting back. So Air Canada is cutting back their flights to LaGuardia for a month at this point, maybe longer. It's not clear when they'll restart them. I spend a lot of my time now on different media with Australia. 80 percent of their oil comes in here into this essentially an island continent, and they're really already strapped and in crisis. And I also spend a lot of time with India because they are already experiencing dramatic shortages as well. So what you are seeing here play itself out. And now for your audience, I think it's important to understand there's three stages I'm explaining. It's not just a crystal ball, throw the dart prediction. There's three stages. Stage one is for the first 45 or so days, when you have a short cutoff, you have prices go up. And then you get into the 45 to 60-day range. And that's that 10-day period you're talking about where you actually start to have the shortages occur. And that's what you're seeing emerging now. And then as you go from day 60 to day 90, the shortages get worse and worse. It's not like shortages stop and prices keep getting worse and worse. But then you have contraction kick in. And that's really what will start to kick in by May 31st here. So what you're seeing is already the predictions I'm making in terms of the shortages are coming sooner than I was anticipating, not later, and you're already starting to see the glimmers of the contraction. And what you just described with the possible escalation coming, this could actually, I guess, even further double confirm the expectations I had.

What does that mean, contraction, for us consumers?

It means we're going to stop producing commodities. We're going to stop having

having actual goods and actual seats on aircraft. So let me just pick up air traffic, because a lot of people we hear travel in the air. So in Europe, there are about 110 million passengers on aircraft every single month. So if you don't have jet fuel, if you literally zero it out, the first step is you'll scramble. How can I get some more of it from somewhere? So you'll go to Nigeria, that's a place and you'll actually come to the United States. But that is actually occurring. Well, everybody else is running out of jet fuel, too. You're going to be the one. And so you'll get about 50 percent, maybe if you're lucky back. So that means suddenly after about four weeks, the contraction piece of this is that you'll go from 110 to something like 80 and then 70 and then 60 million passengers. And then that's just the passengers. You see, there's all the cargo, all the mail, all the just-in-time deliveries that happen through the air that we've gotten so used to. That's going to contract as well. And then the actual products, not just the delivery system, the actual products will start to contract as well. So that we experienced some of this contraction during COVID. But this is now in some ways even more disastrous because the Strait of Hormuz, 20% of the world's oil, there's just not a spare 20% laying around to pick up. And you now have both Iran shutting that down and effectively the United States shutting it down. So you got to persuade two countries to let that oil open up, not just one anymore. Is this really about China? I don't think so. So I spent two weeks in June when we're bombing Fordow in China visiting their advanced industries. See, I'm very interested in power and where power comes from. I wanted to see for myself the advanced industry. Xiaomi, that's an electric vehicle factory. BYD, these are these advanced electric vehicles you can't buy here. Alibaba, I wanted to see their robotics. So I really wanted to see for myself. And what all those top executives told me at all these dinners I was at for two solid weeks is, sure, there'll be some maybe 1% of GDP loss for China at most, but at the end of the day, America is going to get sucked into a quagmire here, and that can only help China glide up and surpass America faster. So they didn't really want to get their nose in it. They weren't trying to make it worse. They just saw this as a no-lose situation for China. And they really couldn't have been happier that after getting out of two forever wars, America got into an even bigger one. So from their perspective, the business part of China perspective, it's just not a problem for them. Wow.

Because they have more energy independence? because we see other parts of Asia are suffering because they cannot get the energy that they need through the Strait of Hormuz. Is there any collaboration that's possible that's not already happening between, let's say, East Asia and China? Yeah. So what I discovered when I went

to China, which I've done many times, but since COVID, very few Americans, including American business, have actually been to China. Almost no politicians have actually gone to China. So they don't know that, for example, for the last five, starting in COVID, China has been stockpiling its oil. It hasn't just worried about this crisis right now and then starting to scramble. For years, it's built up a giant stockpile of oil. It only, its whole energy and its whole entire economy, it's 80% driven without oil at all. So it's not like all of its economy hinges on its oil. What's been happening is they've been, because they don't produce oil, they produce, they've gone into solar in a big way. Their backup is nuclear and coal. And then if they have to, they'll go to the stockpiles of oil. And they were explaining this to me and showing me their plans, the actual business models at these giant companies in China that are just taken off. And this is also, by the way, why the tariffs just are not they don't miss a beat there. Their whole for ever since Trump slapped tariffs on China way back in 2017, China got the memo. And so they've been building almost 10 years to be independent of America wrecking their economy.

Can I follow up on that? So, you know, something the president has said to us many times since starting this war is we don't need to collaborate with other countries. We have our own oil. We're all good. We don't actually have a stockpile that's comparable to China as far. as I can tell, we have some, but not like what you're explaining. And how energy independent is the United States? If you were to give us a grade, a letter grade. No, we are energy independent. I'm one of the people pushing for that going back to 2005 with Dick Lugar in the Senate. So my work on suicide terrorism said being too wedded to the Middle East was a bad idea. Let's become energy independent. That's in Dying to Win, my 2005 book. And I worked with Senator Lugar in the Senate on these issues. I'm a very big believer in that. But that is missing. That's looking at a small part of the picture. And I think what I want is I want America to be the richest, most powerful country on the planet. I just want to be super crystal clear. And the problem that we face right now is I believe, and I'm not saying that President Trump is intending this. But I believe that a lot of his policies are working the opposite to that goal of America as number one, as the most powerful. And I am deeply concerned, not because of some liberal thing at all, I'm deeply concerned that we are hastening the day when China will be number one. And that's why they're sitting back effectively smiling at these big dinners and saying, yeah,

you just go to it in the Middle East. Well, and you saw an armada of about 171 oil tankers heading to the United States to buy up about 200 million barrels of oil. From what I'm reading, that's about half of what's left in the American Strategic Oil Reserve. So all of these ships that were trying to make it through the strait are not able to go through there, so they're coming to the United States. But how much oil do we actually have left to give them? No, you're exactly right.

and then layer into that that as the world's commodities contract, that means we will have to pay higher prices for the same goods in a short time, not in five or 10 years. So I'm all up for trying to reshore. I'm not opposed to many of these ideas. I just want to be super clear. in principle, in practice, what's happening is we are basically wrecking a lot of things in the short term. And I think this is going to, unfortunately, you need a real, not just a strategy, not a goal. You need a plan, a five-year plan for how are we actually going to get from here to there in five years without hurting ourselves in the meantime. And I actually do believe that a lot of those goals could be achieved in that five-year period. I see no sign of anything that looks like that. And in fact, part of that five-year plan would not be this giant

war in Iran. It just would make no sense. So when you write about this in escalation in your substack, where things are heading maybe over the next 48 hours, I mean, where do you see J.D. Vance on his way to Islamabad. It doesn't look like the Iranians are even coming to the table. What do you see happening within the next 48 hours?

Well, I think that it's not impossible. Let's look on the positive side. Let's try to be a little positive. And for me, I've been pretty gloomy here, okay? It's possible you'll get some kind of paper idea of this. But I think we need to understand that whatever comes out of this is not going to have a lot of stickiness to it. And you see how easy it is for these hopes. We had hope a week ago because we had a truce in Lebanon. President Trump with Marco Rubio, they're brokering this truce. And within 48 hours, as you have been reporting, this whole thing just came unglued and they're shooting at each other again. Well, this is because these issues are that zero sum. I wrote a big article on the Substack about the zero sum nature. It is not possible that Iran can control the Strait of Hormuz and have all that global power and not. It is not possible Iran can have the beginnings of the material for a nuclear weapon and not. And this is about power. If Iran gives those two things up, what's to stop other states, Israel, from demanding even more and bombing them even harder to get things they want or just literally to wreck them like they've wrecked Gaza and they're wrecking Lebanon. So it's just not, we're not really, I think, approaching it with what I, my books are called bombing to win. So I really want to win. And I want a strategy to win. And that's really my issue here. It's not really with these end state objectives that are being discussed. It's with how are we actually going to get there in ways that aren't going to, and one more point I just want to

put on the table, your listeners will know we're $40 trillion in debt. We're messing with the world's economy. We're not exactly in the position. We're not even in the position we were with COVID because we lopped on so much debt in our country. I'm concerned that we're rocking this boat at the

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We're back with Professor Pape now. We're talking about what this war continues to do to our pocketbook, to our budget, to our economy. We can work as hard as we want in what we think is a capitalist system, but it can't actually work if there are, let's say, bugs in the system, perverting the system. And the way that's working right now is we will not have energy, right?

Right. And that won't let us. So let me let me let me give you my two cents on this, because I think you've teed up a very important issue, the first a principle and then how to apply it. When you have these shortages, the people who go without are the poorest people always. Yeah. The richer people in the middle class people, they'll pay more prices and they will give up luxury like steak, but they will not go without as much as the poorer people. Now, the people who have become the poorer in the last 30 years, the audience may not really know this, are exactly Trump's core base, which is the non-college educated white working class. That group has lost more ground since 1990 than anybody else.

anybody else so other groups can complain but i'm just telling you the curves the actual reality curves so that group here is a group that for example could be truckers they could be the people that are going to be using and that what's happening is uh i think it would make a great deal of sense so president trump is already i'll just float an idea here which i've never done before but this year this vehicle might be able to get to the west wing which is there needs to be something akin to no tax on tips for the gas prices that are being paid for by the white working class here who are actually using that fuel for their jobs. And so I believe there needs to be some actual legislation. Right now, you've got the Republicans in control of the presidency, the Senate, and the House. And they're constantly saying they can't do anything. Well, let's just put something on the table that I think should be, if they could do anything, they should do this. And that is for the white working class, I'm not saying just give handouts. I'm not a believer in the handout. I am, however, a believer in giving people money to continue their jobs. So you're not actually then having to pay people on welfare and on unemployment, et cetera, et cetera. I believe that this would be a smart thing for Scott Besson to think about, I think for others in the administration to think about, and President Trump. And I think this would be a very smart time to be thinking that way, because that group, no matter how, they don't care about the spin. They're not going to buy the spin, okay? And Joe Rogan showing up at the White House, that's nice, okay? But they're going to be feeling that, and especially people like truckers are going to feel that. And And the people putting that gas in the tractors on those farms, they're going to feel this problem.

We also just had a new poll out showing, I mean, it's disastrous for President Trump right now. And, of course, the Republicans who'd ride his coattails for the November elections. It's a disaster. And one of the things that Scott Besson kind of floated last week was this idea of withholding and your income taxes. And a lot of people thinking maybe he'd be laying the groundwork for removing income taxes in the United States. And, you know, if you want to maybe win in November, be the president of the United States that eliminates income tax right here at tax time for most Americans. And on top of that, you're maybe I know maybe that's a bridge too far.

But President Trump is what I would do, sir. It's a smart idea. I don't really fully disagree with it. But what I would just do is I would just focus this a little bit. Already, the people who voted for President Trump already make far less than those who voted for Kamala Harris. I study these things. This is part of my job, my daytime job when I'm not on Fox. So what you see is it's already many people here who are not making ends meet very easily at all, but they are actually trying to work. They believe and they have a work ethic here, and that's very important to keep going. So I believe what you should be doing is finding specific ways to target the working continuing by this group, even as those gas prices just went up by a third or 40 percent. Something like in my area here in southern Chicago, went up by about 40 percent since the war. It's got to be about that anywhere, everywhere else, too.

So, you know, everyone, the American people feel it at the dinner table. They see it in their bank accounts. They see it, to your point about gas prices. I mean, how bad do you think it's going to get over the next 60 days as this continues?

Oh, I think what you're, again, what you're going to see, I'm focusing on the white working class who are actually working, okay, because I think between now and May 31st, they're going to be the ones who are going to be feeling it. And then now we'll have cascading effects with the prices. It's going to be more expensive at the grocery store because it's more expensive because you have fewer truckers, you have fewer people moving. So I'm really focusing on what my comments here. But beyond that, I don't really we I can't I want to be very careful here all the way through my sub stack. What has made this successful, what's made these predictions accurate is I don't reach out six months from now. People keep wanting to ask me make a prediction a year from now, like about the U.S. economy. And believe me, I'm pretty sure I can make a lot of money right now on the sub stack doing that. But I'm not going to do that because that's just simply not solid. It's just hocus pocus. We can look out. I looked out on the economic front based on my work on sanctions and blockades. You could see the three trajectory pathway. You could see the price rise. You could see the supply shortage. And you could see the contraction. As we go further, I may well extend this because it's true.

It's true. There are things further out, but it really does matter where you are on May 15th, where you'll be on July 1st. It's not true that you can really fully see out six months from now. So I really do. And believe me, I'm gloom and doom. I think I've become Mr. Gloom and Doom on all these shows. Well, I mean, it's fair.

But we've been through the pandemic. We remember when you couldn't get things in the pandemic. That was contraction. We've been. And if it's going to get worse and we don't look it straight in the eye, that's on us.

So we have to hear this. And what I'm telling you is that the thing to do is to see that it's already starting to actually get worse. And then to start thinking, as I am doing, putting on the table an actual policy that by May 1st could get through Congress and the president. Again, I really am not understanding why this has not already happened, except it kind of conflicts with victory rhetoric, you know, that's got to come out. But I think we should be doing this already here because, as you heard from Scott Besson, he said in his assessment that he hopes by sometime in the middle of summer, gas will have a three in front of it. Well, that's not a two in front. I didn't hear two in front of it. I heard three in front of it. So that tells me there's more to be done right now. You see what I'm saying? And I think that that's important. And I don't even mean this politically. Honest to God, I'm from Erie, Pennsylvania. I come from a very poor background in Erie, Pennsylvania. And my goodness gracious, you know, my mom was a waitress. Just, I'm sorry to go into this, but my God, it's not coming from politics. This is coming from my heartfelt for Erie, Pennsylvania is going to get smashed here. And those are big Trump supporters.

I'm not it's not about do you think this is intentional professor do you think this is going to be hurt do you think it's intentional I mean this is obviously I heard President Trump talking about the purposeful devaluation of the U.S. dollar right in order to bring manufacturing back to the United States would you know purposefully devaluing the U.S. currency in order to bring that manufacturing back but others are saying look this is intentional this moves us to like a central bank digital currency this moves us to some sort of a universal basic income you're seeing energy lockdowns hitting across Europe now. You heard Ursula von der Leyen last week saying conserve energy, and now you're seeing the EU moving towards staying home one day per week. We don't want you driving. Is this intentional or am I being too cynical? So it's not that you're being

too cynical, sir. It's that we don't have the information to really judge that. And it's similar to me when you ask this intentional. It's did Israel intentionally hoodwink us or something? And you never hear me go down those roads. It's not because I wouldn't go down those roads or something. It's because I want data. I want actual information. I have never spent time with Scott Besson or the president or the other people or Howard Lutnick and so forth to have them explain to me why somehow they think all this is going to make sense when it appears from all the evidence that is going the other way around. The real issue is not what they, for me, I don't really care what their intention is. I care about the consequences, and especially the consequences on people. And I care about that for Democrats, Republicans, and it's the people that I'm focusing on here. And that's what you see from, if you listen to all of my, it's even hard to tell. What is Pape, anyway? Pape is a kid from Erie, Pennsylvania, whose mom was a waitress. His grandfather was a carpenter. That's who Pape is. And he's concerned about what's what's happening for ordinary people in all these when they go to war, when they're in the economy. It's just the same thing. And I don't want to go down the conspiracy idea. I think it's distracting. I think we need to focus on here are the actual consequences. Let's get on with the job of fixing them. Right.

And yeah, I mean, I guess that's for us to take one step further and say, did we ever need to do this? And we will do this. But let me just respond to this in in the chat. People are saying that's racist to say that it will affect poor white people. Now, I want to point out that it is unequivocally true. Right. Let me let me just point out that the data shows that I'm not I didn't mean only.

Please, everybody. I didn't mean only.

Let me just let me just speak to this unequivocally. The data shows across the board that the racial group that makes up the largest percentage of poverty in the United States is white. Yes, there are poor blacks. There are poor Latinos.

They will hurt in the same way when I grew up. Right.

We're talking about what is the group that will suffer. The racial group that makes up the biggest percentage of poverty is poor whites. We also are concerned with poor everybody because war is a tax on the middle and lower class. So this has nothing to do with racial preference.

Racial filter.

on giving money for to pay for the gasoline to work. It's not about race. It's about the reality of working people need to move in vehicles. That's what I'm talking about. Right. Yeah. Thank you for that clarification. Well, and I appreciate it. And it's just so hard when we were, it's very difficult in the media because that's why I did the Substack where I try to have these lengthy thousand word pieces and even there it's sometimes not enough but it's it at least

provides some more context right yes thank you so much uh we really appreciate you coming on

redacted today professor oh yeah where can people find your sub stack oh the escalation trap just look up the escalation trap and you'll see i started it a week before the war because i was worried about the war and you'll see if you start reading the very first piece i posted three days before the war, it basically predicts better, and I'm sorry to say this not humbly, better than anybody else, what was going to happen as the war took off. The stages we'd go through, taking Hormuz, all of that is there before the first bomb fell. From based on 21 years of modeling the bombing of Iran, teaching for the U.S. Air Force, this is not just being, you know, coming out of thin air or reacting to events.

Well, that's why we wanted to have you on. I've been watching your work very closely. So, Professor, thank you so much. We hope you'll come back and we hope it's under better circumstances. Thank you, Professor. Great to see you.

Me too. And thanks for everything you're doing. Thank you.

Thank you. Thanks, Professor. Great guest. Great and thoughtful. And by the way, yeah, you read his piece and it says it's accelerating. So now not just 10 days, 10 days on April 22nd, coming up very, very soon here, we're going to see these shortages in a massive way.

Right. I mean, this is not about like, do we want to be like this? It's that we don't want to be caught unawares, you know, like most of us were during the pandemic when there is in fact contraction hey jim ferguson is going to be joining us from the

uk here in moments because we're going to talk about these energy european energy lockdowns the financial times reporting just a few short days ago that in fact yes these are coming this is what the eu wants for its people which is you stay home you stay home because we don't have the energy supplies to get you on the road and of course this you know it to my mind is exactly what they want so we're going to talk about these energy lockdowns which are already coming to Europe. But first, right now you see the volatility. You see what's happening with the US dollar. Do your own research, guys, and just study what's happening right now with gold and silver. What if I told you the most essential asset in your life is the one that you don't even own? I'm talking about silver right now. The industrial world is running out of it. We don't have enough of it. And of course, now that we have these battle lines being drawn between the United States and China, when export controls and any kind of silver or other precious minerals coming into the United States. Good luck. No, we need to be self-sufficient. And that's why we have such a shortage of these precious minerals, particularly silver right now. It's in everything. It's a critical mineral because you can't build solar panels. You can't build EVs. You can't build a computer. And by the way, sadly, you can't even build bombs without this silver. The silver is being used in this war. And of course, it's evaporating the moment that it actually explodes. So we don't get it back. For five straight years, we've used more silver than we can actually mine. Unlike paper money, producers can't just print more silver to meet this exploding demand. This isn't a shiny metal anymore. It's a matter of national security and economic survival. That's why experts see silver hitting at least $150 an ounce. And Bank of America, they say it could climb to $300 by the end of the year. I think it's what, around 70 right now as of today, a little over $70 an ounce. So basically the industry is needed to power the world and we don't have enough of it right now. So if you want to invest in silver like we do, you can call our friends at Lear Capital right now. Give them 10 minutes on the phone. Totally free to just talk to them about investing in precious minerals. They'll get you the help you need and they'll get you started today. Just call them 1-800-613-3557. It's right there on your screen. There's the 800 number. Write it down. They're an American company. They will talk to you. It's not outsourced to some call center in India somewhere. They're an American company. Or you can go to the website learredacted.com. That's the other place you can go if you don't want to jump on the phone. And you can download their free silver report as well. Get it. Call them. 1-800-613-3557 or go to learredacted.com. That is the place to go. Big fans of our friends at Lear.

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All right. Well, Europe is set to begin energy lockdowns in the next few weeks. A few weeks ago, Russia actually predicted this. They said that Europe was about to impose these restrictions. And now here we are. According to multiple reports, here you go, Financial Times, brussels pushes remote working to ease energy crisis sounds fun and they put a cat in the photo like it you'll be home with your cat so no big deal she's gonna get a big fluffy cat

happy she is there so happy to be with her cat she have a warm beverage too she's got a nice

little plant oh man i want to work there too yeah yeah i want to work there too now all you need is like a puppy or like a nice warm bed so the eu is pushing remote work now to tackle energy crisis brussels wants to start by introducing one mandatory workday from home per week as these energy prices continue and keep rising ursula von der leyen just a few days ago say ari was

laying the groundwork for this listen is how can we reduce the demand because of course the least expensive energy is the energy that is not used we should reduce demand while yeah we should reduce

demand. Of course, Jim Ferguson joins us now from the UK. He has been watching this very, very closely. Jim, of course, is the founder of Freedom Train International and one of the keenest observers of this globalist tyranny that's unfolding. Jim, great to see you. Welcome back

to the show. Thanks a lot, Clayton. It's always good to be on with you and Natalie. It's a pleasure

to be here. Pleasure. Pleasure. Well, you might next time we see you have to be working from home, So we wouldn't have a chance to have you in a studio because of these new laws. But, you know, I think any idiot could have looked at this and seen that this was going to come from the EU, from Europe, that these energy restrictions were going to start flowing. And here we are. What do you think just broadly at a big picture level of what this is going to mean for the people of Europe?

Well, from a strategic viewpoint, the pressures on the supplies are quite, quite critical. We've been hearing about jet fuel running out in Europe in the next six weeks, and that was reported a week or so ago. I wrote an article about three weeks ago on the potential for energy lockdowns. I think, really, if you want to take it from a strategic viewpoint, it's this. When governments start trying to manage demand, it tells you everything, because it basically means if they're managing demand, it's because they're unsure about managing the supply. And that's going to affect things on a massive scale, not just in Europe, but it's already impacting truckers and farmers in Australia with food prices due to rise probably within the next few weeks by about 20 to 30 percent. Hard pressed families are already feeling the struggle already. So when that happens, because farmers use so much diesel to get the crops to market, to harvest them, and then the trucks have to supply them, that is going to put critical pressure on those supply chains. And there are warnings now that there could be food shortages as well. Indeed, I went into the local supermarket there just a couple of days ago, and I started to see shelves that were starting to empty. Now, what people don't always realize is that the tins of beans and soups and other things that are canned products are usually from last year's harvest, which means it takes that length of time to get them out and developed and produced and into market and into the shops. What could happen is it will most likely put up food prices dramatically, but it could cause real shortages. But the following year is when we might see it really escalating. If they don't sort out this mess in the Straits of Hormuz and free up that international global shipping routes, the pressure's on. But from a globalist point of view, they are loving it because it gives them greater control. They will most likely start to introduce fear. Now, nothing at the moment is legal. It's not mandatory yet. But we saw what happened during the COVID era. When it started off with that easy sell, safe and effective, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't see that happening where there will be increased tax.

Taxes, fines for people that go out in their cars. If they want to go to the seaside right from around the country, oh, your neighbours are going to be picking up the phone and reporting you for it. That's just where it's going. And it's very, very deeply concerning.

Right. If you read this Financial Times article, it says these are recommendations. They're just incentivising you to make your employees stay home once a week or, you know, use renewables and things. It's just an incentive for now. But those of us who did live in Europe during the pandemic, remember, here's a crazy story. We were at a in the little town of Bruges. We were at a Christmas lights walk in Belgium, where you walk around the town and see the Christmas lights. And every like half mile or so, we had to show our QR code that showed that we had a recent negative covid test. And if we didn't, you cannot walk outside on this path to look at Christmas lights in the cold out at night. night outside in the cold, we couldn't do it. You had, we had to have recent negative COVID tests for an outdoor Christmas walk. These are the ways and Europeans, they, they bend over for these kinds of roles. Like, yes, sure. We'll do that. Here you go. The families were doing it. That was just the way it was. And so the structure is in place to enforce this and Europeans will

have no pushback, right? Absolutely right, Natalie. And I remember those circumstances very well, indeed, because it was happening all over the world at that point. And I believe this is going to go global as well. As I say, Australia is already feeling the pinch that our farmer communities in Asia that are desperate now for fuel. We saw Albanese, the leader of the Australian government there, the Prime Minister, going to Asian countries and then bragging about how he was able to get a million litres of diesel. But it got rubbish because when people actually looked into the detail of the deal, 100 million litres is only one day's supply. I think they use about 90 million litres per day in Australia. So, you know, it's all soundbites. The reality is the pressure's on. If they cannot manage the demand, which is now what they're talking about by confining people to be at home mandatory for one day, for example, it's because they can't manage the supply. And Europe is energy poor. They just don't have the energy that they need. And of course, picking fights with Russia over Ukraine has harmed them greatly. The pipeline that was taking the gas, the fuel in that got blown up, of course, they felt the pinch there as well. One country that could be benefiting from all of this, of course, is the United States, because they do produce a lot of oil and a lot of gas. And President Trump has said, if you feel that you need it, buy it from us. But once again, we've seen reports just within the last two, three days of 200 tankers heading directly to the United States, some of them super tankers that can carry up to two million barrels of oil a day. But I think the real pressure is coming. And I mean, I'm planning to go back to Europe again, but I'm looking at the airline availability. We've seen KLM, a Dutch airline that I fly with a lot, going off to different countries, saying that they're grounding hundreds of flights. So we'll have to wait and see. But I think what the globalist mentality is, it's more lockdowns, it's more control, it's more fear. And that's something we've always got to be really careful about. And that's why I always really respect you guys on Redacted, because you're always at the forefront, at the cutting edge of getting the news out. And I think, as we always say in Freedom Train International, don't be scared. Be prepared. We're telling our members now, get ready, accelerate your preparations, make sure that you're not going to be left without, because this could go a lot further. I don't think it's going to be over in a matter of days or weeks. I think it might go on a lot longer. And the tension in the Middle East right now is huge. So we could even see that situation escalating further.

People in the chat room are saying, yes, you're right. It's all about control. That's at the heart of this. And I've heard people say that this is really COVID 2.0. They can't get us again with a fake virus. You know, they have to get us with something. Now they're using the Iran war as a mechanism for control. And part of these pieces from Brussels specifically, it mentions closing public buildings, making transit cheaper. So you're getting these subsidies for people to be taking public transit because they certainly don't want you owning your own car. So, you know, when you when you start to see these pieces coming together, like car free zones, car free days, we're going to subsidize public transit. We want you to stay home. We want to move you away from cash. You're right. At the heart of it is control.

It is. And once again, we're starting to see that control and that fear. And we will see that ramped up, especially if they're going to start. making it mandatory that people have to stay at home. But by crushing businesses, by causing people hardship, it produces fear. And that's what we saw during the pandemic and the lockdowns just a few short years ago. But the other important thing to remember is UN Agenda 2030. Now, that is the 17 sustainable development goals, which on the surface appear very noble, but there's nothing noble about them. This is once again, hardcore control tactics. The globalists are obsessed with controlling everybody else. And the year 2030 is not that far away. It is accelerating towards it. And I think we're going to see more of these types of scenarios where people are being controlled through the use of energy, through the use of fuel, and ultimately through the use of food. if you don't get your digital ID, you can't get into the supermarket. We see the credit score system in China that is now causing many, many people in China to be locked out of their own homes because they've said something, they've jaywalked, they've done something that the state doesn't like. And the globalists in Europe, in particular in the EU Commission, love the Chinese model because they want the same thing here in Europe. Jeez, you're absolutely right about that.

They are rolling out agenda 2030 right now.

And then you think about the high taxes that Europeans pay thinking, well, we get free health care. Well, no, actually, because what you're paying for will be a more expensive government that works less because they're going to mean that your health care workers work from home, too. They're going to mean that your your Social Security office works from home. You're going to get you're going to continue to pay these high taxes. You're going to get less and less and less for it. So middle finger Europeans, as always, you know, this is not an indictment of the European people. It is absolute sympathy for the government that imposes on them.

Yeah. I mean, the European nations are great people. I know a lot of people across the whole of Europe, in particular in the East as well. I spent a lot of time there over the course of the last few years. And they're wonderful people, but they're hard pressed. And this is not going to help.

It's awful. Yeah, it won't.

It really is. Yeah. So I think that, once again, it's a question now of waiting to see whether that Straits of Hormuz get freed up, whether the oil prices come down. I think the globalists, though, have an agenda. Clayton mentioned it earlier and absolutely right. And I think we just have to be very, very careful where we're going with this. But get prepared. Don't leave it to the last minute. I also watched you talking about gold and silver. You're absolutely 100 percent right about that as well, Clayton. And people should be getting some of that, too, if they can afford to get some coins, in particular, on the silver side.

Yeah, I agree with you on the prepping side right now. Make sure you have food stores in your house, because I think the thing you said at the very beginning was spot on, which is this is a trickle effect, that we might not see these shortages this summer. But the next harvest, when the fertilizers weren't there, when all of this was shut down, the next year's prices could be doubled or even tripled, or we won't have food at all. Jim Ferguson, great to see you, as always. We know it's almost 10 p.m. there in the U.K., so thank you so much for staying up late with us and giving your thoughts, as always. People need to follow Jim on X. How can people follow you on X?

At Jim Ferguson, U.K., and I'd be delighted to also say to go to www.freedomtradeinternational.org. We'll tell you exactly what you need to know and how to get prepared for what's coming. You can't afford not to be. Love it. Thank you so much.

Awesome, Jim. Great to see you. Thank you so much, Jim, as always.

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All right. Well, last week, a Dutch politician warned that eugenics are going on. Sorry, let me take that over. I'll start that one more time. Last week, a Dutch political commenter warned that eugenics are going on in the Netherlands. Watch this shocking video, and then we're going to break down what he actually is referring to.

This is an emergency SOS call from the Netherlands. All hope is lost. Please save us. I'm calling on the international community to do something about the extreme disease that is in charge of the Netherlands. Just tonight, our parliament discussed a new law that will allow two men to donate DNA material to create a joint embryo out of two men, meaning a child born of two men. and will also allow a single person to mate with themselves to produce a self-fertilized egg and then create a child with only one biological parent.

Okay, so this man is Johans Conrad. He is a political commentator. He's not a politician. But what's he talking about? Is he right? Well, what he's referring to is a proposed change to the Netherlands' embryo laws. Right now, Dutch law prohibits creating human embryos unless the goal is pregnancy. This change would allow scientists to just create an embryo specifically for research. But as we know, research is often a Trojan horse for medical programs that eventually do get rolled out. It's a major shift because once you allow an embryo to be created, this is the seed of creating a human, right? So you're allowing this to be created just for research, not for ever becoming a human. And then what happens to it? Now, as I was reading this, I thought, what would happen if Jeffrey Epstein got his hands on this technology, which he was trying to do? If you read his emails, he was trying to find an island that would be outside of government laws that he could breed sex slaves and not have to go and, you know, coerce them from other places. This was his dream. So when we're thinking this is going to be a possibility, you can create a human embryo without a man and a woman seed, and then they are just used for research. Who would stop someone like Epstein from growing those into his harem or what have you, his sex slaves who, so just keep that in mind. I'm not, I'm not obviously, this is not a bridge too far. He wanted this. There were people in power advising him. Okay. So under current Dutch law, scientists can only use embryos that are leftover from in vitro treatments for research. Now I want to pause there for a second. Do women who use IVF know this, that when their eggs are taken, do they know that the ones that don't become a baby will be used for lab experiments? I'd love to know that if you've ever done IVF. Now, since only about 25% of those actually become babies, the rest is used for experimentation. But researchers are complaining that by the time they get them, they're a little too old to be used for scientific research. So they want the ability to start from scratch. Now, right now, the only way to do that...

That is take a sperm and an egg from a man and a woman, but they want to be able to skip that part, too. This is where the viral claim comes in because researchers are exploring turning stem cells into eggs. It's called in vitro gametogenesis. It's called in vitro gametogenesis. That means you combine genetic material in new ways. Now, the Dutch law does not say that they are going to do this, but it is a way to open the door to that happening. And that's where the concern comes from, that if these technologies advance, the legal boundary around creating the embryos has been loosened. It becomes easier ethnically and legally to take the next step. That's why Dutch politicians have opposed this. Some, many are in favor. Some say, look, this law opens the door and we cannot fully predict what happens, what will come through. It treats human life as mere test material. It could result in designer babies and mini-me's. Of course, they're saying, look, we just want to research this so we can help people get pregnant better. You know, this is just for helping people and making babies. OK. But there was a time when, you know, a lot of the fertilization technologies we have now was just for research and now it is rolled out widely IVF freezing eggs freezing embryos you know we've seen science pump men full of hormones so that they can breastfeed we've discussed this not that's obviously not for the baby the baby is getting a full-on meal of synthetic hormones it's for the man right now scientists are already working on things like growing embryos outside the body for longer periods so it doesn't have to grow inside of a woman like the matrix you guys this is real uh creating embryo like structures from stem cells what we just discussed would in fact allow a man to create an embryo from his own stem cells without a woman or allow a person to mate with themselves that's true we've seen early forms of artificial womb technology we've seen this being discussed for instance here to allow a man to carry a baby. Already womb transplants have happened from woman to woman, but now researchers are wondering if they can do woman to man womb transplant. Look at this article here. Scientists are worried about whether or not this should be subsidized. They're not saying, is this good for the baby? You see the article here, you know, is this good for all parties interested? All parties interested, meaning the person who grew the womb from their own body, the person who will receive it, the interested party here is not the baby because who would think that that's in the best interest of a baby to be carried by a man, to have their

be transplanted mid womb into a man. So given how dystopic this can be, can we be sure that some mad scientist or globalist elite or a Jeffrey Epstein of the world doesn't actually use these embryos created transgenesis or whatever I called it. What did I call it? In vitro gametogenesis that they will not actually do it.

Gametogenesis. Thank you.

Yep, that.

Gametogenesis.

I was like transgeogenesis. Okay, yes. So again, you know, this is not science fiction. This is something scientists are actually discussing. Now, Jeffrey Epstein didn't have the technology to create embryos from his own stem cells, but we've read his emails. We know that he would have. We know that he was being advised by some of the best genetic researchers and liberal universities that you may or may not still want to send your kids to. So, again, once technology catches up to someone as ambitious as the Epstein class, the only question remains is what who decides what gets created and why and for what purpose. So let us know what you think of this embryo.

It just seems like you need a little bit more than a womb.

you know well like just a warm place yeah yeah just just stick it in a box good not

right yeah i mean all the things that like if you've ever had a baby you know that when you're pregnant around the clock you are feeding nutrients into growing this baby it's not just yeah like a incubator you're more than more than that i mean when you've discovered that's why you

stop smoking like halfway through the pregnancy you're like you're like yeah never told me this

And drinking straight whiskey.

This is what the globe, think about like these baby making factories too, like these womb making factories where they will have, and they're rolling these out. We featured this like, remember like three years ago here on the show, like having these babies outside of the womb completely. They don't even.

The human piece of this now is a total inconvenience. Right. Which is kind of maybe the more surprising piece of this story. It's like, why even use humans at all now? Just have them be totally outside of the body and in these, like, baby-making factories.

Yeah. And then would you want to have a baby with yourself, like your own DNA? It feels like that would result in a high rate of, like, error, you know, if you don't have two genetic—

genetic yeah you'd never have to you'd never have to leave home date or anything i mean you just live in your you would need like a 30 second city just live right it's like an incest house

it's like it reminds me of that episode of the x-files called the peacocks if you've ever seen the x-files episode the peacocks you know exactly where they just kept having babies incestually in their home with this mama they kept on like a little shelf like with wheels and they just like all these babies kept dying have all sorts of dna problems well right but look at the matrix and

something philip has said a couple times when we've talked about these baby making abilities is soldiers right like they could make these babies not just for sex slaves but also for soldiers

you know and well that's again when i come back to the womb factories like not necessarily like so you could actually pay a government could fund this operation where we wouldn't have to worry about we wouldn't have to worry about actually you know uh real human beings and recruiting them

we would recruit our own armies for this this is the matrix absolutely yeah and and then you know it it raises questions about consciousness the same thing we've been thinking about since we got the novel frankenstein is you know if you're actually just taking old bits of other humans and creating a conscious sentient being you're playing god when when does that consciousness Where does that come from? Who gives that life to this test tube life? It's a it's incredibly uncomfortable discussion. And it seems like it's being discussed quite cavalierly in Dutch parliament.

Callie Dime on our chat room here says from one single person, that sounds like just like inbreeding from one single person. That sounds too much like inbreeding.

That's what I was trying to get at. Yeah. And, you know, that's why we have people who have made it too closely in their bloodline, create problematic children. Like, how can how can we you know, there's there's nothing to select.

Think about how those kids are going to get teased in school. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, if you're just like it. Yeah. It just seems like they would be exploited so much. Like, it's that's all it is, is is a way for them to be exploited and expendable.

S.E. Douglas says, if it's now coming to light, it's already happened. Well, isn't that the real story here? Is that, yeah, right? Like we already know that this is happening, right? This is not.

But this is what they're telling us. Go ahead.

We did that story where we showed all those incubators. It was like two years ago, I think.

More than that.

Yeah, I just mentioned that. The wombs, having the babies outside of the body.

Yeah.

You know, where these like baby making factories. And by the way, this wasn't like fake AI. It was like, this is what this will look like. There'll be these baby making, there'll be these, not baby making, it'll be wombs where no one has to carry the baby to term. They're just carried in these like plastic incubators where they're watched and monitored all the time.

That sounds incredibly stressful. I mean, when you're pregnant, it gives you great comfort to have the baby safe and sound inside of you. Like I would never be like, okay, good. I'm done. This is uncomfortable. Just put it in there. I'll come back when it's done. But you know, like a cabbage patch.

You know, there are plenty of like Hollywood types that would be thrilled to do this, that don't want their bodies expanding and getting bigger and smaller and, you know, because they could just have it put in one of these little incubation tubes.

That's horrid. Yeah.

Not only is it like they would absolutely do this, but then it would be used for horrible trafficking purposes is like what they're doing in Ukraine. Exactly. We showed you the baby making factories in Ukraine where these women come in, these underground bunkers.

Yeah.

And they're basically kept there. And then, of course, they take their babies and they're sold off to insect slavery around the world.

Yeah.

Which we've tracked and covered here on the show extensively. So Sour of Seeds says, thank you for your $5, Super Chat says, this is how half humans, half creatures will be introduced to society. Liberals will fight for the right to live.

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I don't know if I understand this one, but I'll read it anyway. Nablus says, the level of cope is wild. The professor says he lacks info, but will say or do anything except face the actual problem. Treat the cause, not the symptoms. those white truckers chose Trump and suffer because of it he's not your savior 100% none of these politicians are saviors that's part of the problem these people think that when they vote that these people are going to come save them they're all part of the same mechanism they're all part of the same mechanism you have literally almost every member of the senate I think 94 of them all of them take money from APEC all of them so they're all the same and it doesn't matter You know, Chuck Schumer, Donald Trump, Nancy Pelosi, they're all the same. They're all the same. Very little, very little daylight between them.

And it's also why you'll see, you know, like when the Democrats, they stand up against Trump all but, oh, that one voter, that one Democrat voter got through. Dang it, we almost got this passed. Oh, those two holdouts. That's why they're all the same. It's all orchestrated and it's all on purpose. They're not coming to save us because they're too busy enriching themselves.

Right. But I mean, think about the rhetoric. Right. So, you know, people of color usually vote Democrat because they speak to the issues of people of color while making their lives so much worse. That is the same that we're observing, you know, from working class whites who supported Trump. Unfortunately, he is making their lives. They believed one thing. A lot of people did. And it's not an indictment on either side because those things sound hopeful in a perverted economy. How can you blame the voter? You have to you have to blame the system.

Yeah. Someone in the chat said that women don't want to have enough babies. So we need to do this. That's why they want to do this, because women won't have enough babies. Well, we certainly have a birth gap crisis around the world right now. I mean, look at Japan, right? Look at the United States. we have an we have a massive birth gap problem right now but are we going to create like little weird ai babies now that have no conscience and that are not connected to a female body at all

because what if they can't create consciousness what if these things can like and i don't know this is science fiction right you create an embryo from a stem cell it didn't have a male female donation at all and it doesn't have that and it does grow but it has no consciousness then it's

like a well have you seen like a robotic doll have you seen that video um you didn't just show like megan i was checking other things no maybe yeah but no like with that video where these like two gay guys have a have a baby that they bought it went viral oh and they're laughing at it for saying mama because the baby's like crying out for mama and they're like laughing at it and making fun of it like so they bought this baby and like this biologically this baby is like looking for its mama but it can't because you got two gay guys that have these babies yeah i did see that

I don't know the context. Freaky.

Here we go. P. Walker says a self-embryo could be justified as sourcing transplant organs. That won't be rejected by an immune system. A self-embryo. Meaning like, hey, in the same way that people keep their own, I don't know, blood in a blood bank.

Oh, that's like the movie Avatar or something. Not Avatar. What's the Bruce Willis one where he's got like an extra body? Anyway, yeah, like you could keep a whole extra body for yourself to.

Like as a backup plan?

Yeah. Like where's the extra Natalie in the closet?

In the same way that you buy an extra Cholula sauce? Right, you just keep an extra. In case, yeah.

Right.

You just keep an extra Natalie in the closet? Does it have consciousness or is it? Oh my God, I hope not. Let me be honest. One is enough. Like let's just keep one of these enough. You don't want an extra one of me around here in the same way that I want an extra one of you around here. No. Although we could get a lot more done.

Possibly.

Yeah, and you could live in different countries. No, but then how would you get, like, you have an issue, like you need a liver transplant. Hey, Natalie's in, Natalie 2 is in Italy right now. Got to get her back.

Right, and I'm like, oh, I'm going back to die? I don't think so.

And what if she's like, I don't want to?

Yeah.

I don't want to go back and give up my liver. I'm having fun here on the, you think that Natalie 1 would know how to talk her into it.

And she's pounding wine like there's no tomorrow. Right. Italy, Natalie is pounding wine like there's no tomorrow because she knows she's got an extra liver back in the U.S. that she doesn't need to worry about it. So you're not going to get that liver transplant.

Yeah.

Well, I'm liking this idea more and more.

There is a science fiction movie about this, you guys. What is it? Surrogates. Surrogates. That's what it's called.

That's what it's called? Yeah. Well, surrogates isn't him having another body. It's where they have avatars that are out.

Right.

The fifth element?

But there's another one where you like breed a backup and then the backup has consciousness and then tries to switch for the four-up.

He's grim saying that that's the island with the island.

you and mcgregor oh okay okay anyhow because surrogates is where they're they have avatars and he's laying in a chair and out living his life right right right yeah yeah this one says thank you the dutch program is more violent utiny aka alien sigourney weaver than the matrix oh okay oh alien yeah that's crazy um all right well thank you for your super chats um thank you for subscribing to the show and being a part of our channel here. We really appreciate it. Oh, yeah. By the way, if you leave a comment, just leave a comment or smash that like button or you can use that new hype button. I saw a message the other day saying someone saved up their hype points for our show. I really appreciate that. I don't know if we have it available.

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Embryos coming in 2029.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll have redacted embryos.

You could just grow a Clayton and yell at him while you watch the show. That will be perfect.

Yeah, you could grow a Clayton and then have him sit in your living room. And then when you disagree with me on something, be like, Clayton, you're an idiot.

Yeah, just yell in his face. He likes that.

He'll be fine. Be totally fine. And then he'll go hang out.

It's going to take 40 years to get there, but.

Right. Then he'll go hang out in the garage and ignore you for the rest of the day.

Yeah.

That's how it works. He won't ask for substantive arguments. So you can just say, you're wrong. Okay. And he'll be like, he'll just like, all right, bye, everybody.

It's too much.

Like multiplicity. Remember that movie?

Yeah, we could go on all day.

Michael Keaton. All right. Bye. Bye, guys. See you tomorrow.

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