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we know of new methods of attack one of the follies of having uh the morning after recording

is that you look like absolute dog i feel like someone gave me the morning after pill

and it didn't work this is kind of what i look like i know it's a terrible thing by the way about about our move to video yeah that's a phrase that we've been hearing for about a decade now is that i can no longer look like this uh and feel comfortable with it yeah but i do hope that people and feel comfortable with it i don't so you'll still do it i'll do it i mean i have another choice i mean suppose i could stop drinking but that seems dumb yeah but um uh but yeah like i people now can confirm that this is not an act you can visually see that i don't know how i ended And I saw, because we have a monitor today for the first time. Yeah, we're working on some experiments. I looked at some experiments, and I looked at the monitor, and I was like, oh, my God, Andy Rooney's on the show today? I was like, oh, that's fucking me. That's unbelievable.

I literally look. Your face looks like a baseball glove. It looks. Like from the 1920s.

It is like Roy Campanella's glove. That's what I'm like. Just call me Campanella's glove.

Meanwhile, I think I'm in traction. Oh, you are? I have some kind of spinal fusion situation going on.

So if you see me wincing and going, ah, well, we had into, to be clear, um, you guys are loyal listeners and you've heard that we had John Spencer on last night. I did text Jason this morning, uh, and said the headline should have been John Spencer Jews explosion, but I didn't, can we say that? Wait a minute. Oh, this is not behind the paywall.

Not yet, no. Shit! Yeah.

This is the problem with recording at 11 a.m. when I got sober at 9.30 a.m. Sober. But yeah, John Spencer, who's a lovely, brilliant guy, does not drink. Yes. But that didn't stop us from afterwards having drinks, I was going to say with him, but around him.

He was conducting surveillance on our alcoholism yesterday. That explains the whole thing. And just, you know, pro tip, if you are with the lovely and gregarious and gorgeous Gnome Dorman and he brings out a tower, a literal tower of Polish vodka, that might be a, you know, that might be a time to pack up your things.

It was, in fact, a Polish vodka that I'd had with him in Poland and that he later sourced because it was so good, which is fine when you're in Poland and you don't know what time it is. You're like this jet lag.

Somebody caught you.

Yeah, yeah. And someone's giving you shots of it. But on an ordinary school night, my body's shaking a little bit right now. So I think that's normal, though. So anyway. My heart goes out to both of you. Just keep that in mind when you're judging our performance tonight.

Thankfully, this is only Neverfly Coach. So you're really, you know, only people who pay the good bucks can see how absolutely dreadful.

Well, just feel people know, by the way, the video is going to be for everyone soon. Very, very soon. Next week.

Next week. next week is the plan and we have some very we have a big very very special planned first guests that we're not going to tell you about made don't make me laugh there's gonna be pain involved um in uh in semi-related news uh we haven't done a mailbag in a long time we've got a ton of mails and um just wanted to mention that uh about half of the mails of the last two weeks have had to do i don't know why uh with megan kelly yeah i think it's occupying

she's a controversial figure she's a lightning rod true so what's this thing i the so that this morning that happened with her i don't know if there's anything that happened this morning there was just i woke up at 6 a.m groping for acetaminophen so i could give my baby autism and feel better and so i found the acetaminophen and i took my phone and there was a series of clips of our dear friend uh megan at a tp usa event she is one of the fill-ins uh for this tour that charlie kirk was doing and she did one i think in virginia and so um what is but people i think are missing the point of this and we could you know we'll talk to megan about this Next time we talked to her, whenever that might be, about, you know, some of the things she said. I mean, I didn't have a particular problem with anything that I saw, but I do want to point out that the students are all insane people. Like, I don't know if they're in students, but they're just insane people. Because people cut, like, the first clip I saw was like, so, Nick Fuentes says about the Jews, and I don't know if I should trust him. It's like, you don't know if you should trust him? I'm sorry, what college is this? And do you go here? And if so, you should maybe drop out now. And then there was another one where someone started talking about the billionaire Jews. And by the way, I haven't seen them in many...

many years, but David Harsanyi responded to this by saying, here are the top 10 Trump donors, all of whom are billionaires, only one of whom is Jewish, and it's Miriam Adelson, who gets a lot of press, obviously. Really? Only one? But not, yeah, nine out of 10. Is David Harsanyi counting Jews and things? He is counting Jews and things. Very good at it, by the way. He can see right through the

the chapeau to the horns i think that's that's probably the one context where your motivation is the most important thing if you're if you're counting jews yeah that one is to debunk the

people who are also counting jews yes you guys are miscounting the jews yeah um the number's

a little inflated yeah we should uh re-mention to people that um we are still doing our show with megan kelly um november 21st which is a friday at the honda center in orange county which is like a full ass arena yeah um so tickets are still available ducks are playing in between

in between we're in between periods we're doing a show but it's a big it's on the ice big venue

and we're kicking the tires on uh on maybe seeing what else we might do that weekend uh afterwards So keep...

Wait, so the show's on the 21st. What day is that? That's a Friday. It's a Friday. So maybe Saturday, Sunday, shows for the rest of you. Yeah. Don't want to schlep to Anaheim or want a more intimate experience because I don't think without Megan we could sell her thoughts. I want to be ambitious. The Tiki T.

We're going to absolutely fill the Tiki T.

As our friend Alex mentioned last night, maybe you could do the Hollywood Bowl. But I don't know if we could fill it up. So we're looking for venues.

Look at venues and having some preliminary thoughts.

We like suggestions. Exactly. Send us suggestions. We read everything.

In fact, you know, when we were in Chicago, where did we end up going? Correct. We taped Two Place at a wonderful listener's venue and had a great time. Great guy. Mike Reed.

Yeah, who does music festivals and such. And he's a listener and he offered up his venue and we struck a deal with him and did two shows. They were on two separate nights, right?

They were on two separate nights. and yet ben dreyfus invited himself to both yeah yeah yeah that was remember the second time like he was backstage we didn't even want him there yeah we were like who is this guy and you could

hear him he's yelling yeah boy yeah yeah he's yelling in the back if you have someone in the

green room i don't think you can say that they've invited themselves you're you're well no you're

responsible he knew where it was he knew where the night before and so just figured that he could

show up again yeah he he did and we it's kind of hard to throw a dreyfus out yeah i've thrown richard dreyfus a few things but never ben dreyfus yeah yeah um we will get to some more megan

related emails i think a little bit later but i wanted to um unless you guys have some other things that you wanted to discuss beforehand it's been a while it's been a while since we've mail

bagged one other mail um housekeeping thing i'm gonna be in la this weekend and i know you'll probably be hearing this at the earliest on like friday night or saturday but i'll be in la this weekend for something called the night of awe and wonder and it is one of those things where you need tickets a lot of waitlisting happening but if you are a listener to this podcast and you're hearing about it here um and you go to the link which will perhaps smuggle into the friday email matt if that's possible uh you can emails come out usually on saturday but yes okay well yeah when is it exactly register it's it's saturday night um but you can if you're in the area you can register you can come it's going to be great and a lot of cool what is it what's giving talks yeah well this is this is me indulging my other my other interest so it's the evening with a

bunch of scientists oh i thought it was like young boys sorry there'll be no there'll be people

talking about psychedelics and stuff i'm sure um but yeah it's it's the templeton foundation it's the cosmos it's meaning and life and purpose and wonder and there'll be cool people there you

should come uh where is it uh in la i can't disclose the location what you have to register yeah it's some like satanic it's a secret yeah like cult you guys are gonna be kind of burning

shit it's pretty much bohemian grove but no no gay sex you know i know someone well there's no

sex of any kind actually by the way do you really yeah yeah i just found out recently when he said i'm going to bohemian grove i was like wait what seriously he's like yeah and i was like oh you're

type of person to go to bohemian grove yeah i've been in twice i've been invited twice since i've

been out in the bay area did you you should absolutely go absolutely go yeah because isn't it up there in the woods yeah isn't that it's like in um where is it like in the redwood side

like it's in the redwood grove um but i forget exactly where yeah i mean it's it was it's been an open secret where to go so like every what three or five years there's a i infiltrated the Bohemian Grove article, only the first of which was great, which was Spy Magazine, I think, did it?

Yeah, well, our dear friend, John Ronson, in his book of them, was one of the first people that exposed the world outside of Austin, Texas to Alex Jones because he went with Alex Jones to Bohemia Grove. Hey, Alex, let's go to Bohemia Grove. Oh, yeah, let's go to Bohemia Grove. We saw a sacrifice. But he apparently, I think I'm remembering this right, and don't sue me if I get this wrong, that I think that they went and it was like kind of tedious and all that stuff. And John writes about this. and then later alex jones was like you know we saw goats being killed and you know all this i just like kind of riffed on it and john was like i was there with you i don't think that happened so yeah i don't know if um so you heard it here first i don't know if alex jones is the most

reliable witness if you had to go with alex jones or candace owens probably alex jones i would go

with alex jones because alex jones because i've spent a little bit of time with alex jones uh for you know for journalistic purposes and i found him to be quite fun and he's like he's a

funny i don't think so really you look at that woman you see fun no but like if you walk down the street and you know just a vagina penis you know i'm going penis on this one i am like the

fucking patch up boys all the time i don't care at this one because when i'm walking down the street and i see her she's gonna look underneath there are valves and that's where the jews are and i'm I don't know. I'd be pretty. Alex Jones actually has been the one who has kind of steered people away from that stuff. He's indulgent in it too, but he's not Jew obsessed. And that's rare in somebody who is 100% conspiracy theorist. It's not entirely true, by the way. He's gone down these rabbit holes himself here and there, but not to the point. I mean, if you watch him when kanye comes on he's clearly on with the jew i see i i maybe i'm wrong and misreading this but watch it and kanye is where he's wearing he was he was deeply uncomfortable yeah kanye was wearing his bugs like that bug oh yeah yeah like he was like a like a racist beekeeper beekeeper dan akroyd in 1941 he was like the anti-jewish beekeeper uh jason mojico where are we on our kanye ask for the camille one-on-one yeah we're asking kind of yeah yeah what they said the 12th uh 12th of the 12th of november 12th of november i'm hearing a lack of production effort that is just a really disappointing i don't i really don't know people that we want him not to take his pills for at least a week before yeah that's our requirement no pills there was a clip you see clip the other day of him like yeah you have to talk but did you see his clip the other day was on uh uh someone posted it on on twitter and i think it was like an outtake or something is this him fighting with chris jenner correct yeah and she was like it's not an outtake it is

part of this new documentary documentary okay but she's like take your pills

and he's like i don't want to take my pills and she's like you're bad on the jews this week take

the pills take it it's it's also sad i don't know that i could do could do that interview i think i would be five times worse than lex friedman like i'd be in tears the entire time with him to come back to change this and he won't you'll feel he did an interview with lex friedman yeah he did a long interview with lex friedman lex friedman was near tears why because he was just pleading with kanye to be sane and normal and trying to talk sense that usually works i think what we want to see is uh theo vaughn and kanye yeah yeah come on man i don't know actually theo might be able

to get through to him theo vaughn objected he got mad he got mad that they were used him in an ice

uh ice is making oh is he apparently i saw that he so he didn't give them approval no apparently

not apparently oh what was the clip hey y'all you didn't have didn't have my approval on that one

yeah come on wow well you know they did enough until so louisiana or somewhere i don't remember you know they cut another one that had the pokemon music in it and yeah which i imagine

they didn't get permission for no the pokemon people were upset about that i'm not even joking they were yeah the japanese were like no

yes gotta catch a ball i mean did i did i chuckle maybe i might have chuckled yeah but it's wrong

you shouldn't do that shit uh we have a lot of of mail from people who want us to talk shit about our previous guests so i think we should just really go right into it why do they make us do um because it's funny we're nice people we try to be nice people um this one it's it's not like a fair email at all but the subject line is hilarious and so yeah this is this is from john this is from john doe um who

i assume is the singer songwriter from x yeah um since he's been uh hanging out with uh uh tavis sampson recently anyways um john doe uh listening to this is subject line listening to thor halverson made me more sympathetic to jd vance yelling at zelinski oh wow that's pretty funny he said um i agree with basically all his positions but he has such a smug tone of voice and a way of talking that halfway into the episode i was like oh shut up who cares about anyway stop complaining you ungrateful immigrant now i wouldn't let that actually influence my policy preferences but i still think he's an incredibly shitty spokesperson for these issues this was one of those episodes i had to force myself to keep listening to and that usually only happens if you have really retarded people on i massively disagree with like greenwald or but yeah but yeah this was rough um that john zero pinocchios we're kidding thor yeah uh we had overwhelmingly positive positive response to the smug ton of

voice thor yeah i don't get that well you you wouldn't yeah you wouldn't get it moynhan i

wouldn't get it i guess no not you yeah i like the just a lot of people thought he was really

mad at you and me obviously oh that's true though but that's true yeah he's mad at me he's been mad at me for 20 years and i don't understand it they have a mutual friend of course in the building right now and i was saying this after that matt i could say so thor uh what should we do about maduro and matt could say so thor what could we do about should we do about maduro and i'd be like well matt that's a really good question he's like what kind of question is that what do you do what do you mean what are we gonna do i was like that's a thor response to me we were i don't know why

thor is very very funny and he's been he's been friends with michael and camille for a long time i've known him and we've had mutual friends for a long time and uh and he is just a funny and kind of aggressive person like before we started taping it's like fifth column what's that named after i'm like uh i don't know i suddenly felt defensive about the name like uh you know

my daughter told me a thor story i was like how does my daughter have a thor story but she met him at i think uh election night uh the election night party where i was doing the thing for the free press right here right right right in the space and he sounds better now though it sounds much better now uh because you have professionals doing it now um not like you know indigent british people um we're not naming names all right but uh i'm joking but uh she was talking to him and she still won't tell me exactly what uh what he said and she was like it was crazy and i was like what did he say and she's like i can't say but she could only hint at things she said she started by saying thor does not know how to talk to children and i was like well that's the least surprising thing i've ever heard in my life but apparently uh there was some it was a sexual uh comment that absolutely not directed all right well that was the free sample yeah but uh we've already recorded this so we know that there is so much more just there's so much great stuff witchcraft there's you humiliate yourself in a way that i've never seen that's true uh there's some amazing racism mostly from you um we did go through the 13 principles of uh of blm which at a

at a public school near you correct um yeah a lot of adverbs correct there's a lot of adverbs some megan kelly and a last ditch offer a lot of megan kelly uh by camille to uh if there are like 50 upgrades to Neverfly Coach. We're going to do unspeakable things to the carcass of Russ

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