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I watched two episodes of the new season. Oh, thanks. Ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. So you. That show is so you. I don't want to give anything away, but the dance one, I was fucking crying. I was crying. and the Freaky Friday one. Yeah, yeah, with Jamie. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They're so fun. They're so fun. It seems so fun for you. It's the most fun I have. It's like it's so – it is one of the best examples of, like, one mind, like one person's mind in a show without, like, a whole bunch of people saying, don't do that, don't do this.

They give us no restraints in the craziest, greatest sense. They really are like, do whatever you want to do.

The Kevin Nealon one, the first one was so fucking ridiculous. It's so you.

It's such a great time. The dance one, you know, I went to six rehearsals for that, dance rehearsals. Dancing is hard.

It was so hard. Remember when you did the Steven Seagal thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I had to do a bunch of rehearsals for that, too.

For people that hadn't seen it, you and Burt made a dance video.

You guys had a competition. See who makes the best one? He was just saying we should all do one, and I was like, yeah, okay, and then he just dropped one. So there was no, like, let's both do one, and then he was like, I'm a better dancer, and I was like, eat shit, dude. There's something about him saying he's better at something that's infuriating. It's so crazy because it's just like wild, unhinged confidence, you know? And the truth is, I got to give him his credit. He is capable of so much of this stuff, too. Well, he's a great athlete. Great. That's why he's so confident about stuff. He dropped a bunch of weight, and then we did our 5K a few weeks ago for the Netflix is a joke. We did a 5K again. From last year to this year, he dropped 16 minutes off of his time. Holy shit. I was like, dude, we dropped 50 pounds, too.

Can you imagine doing a 5K with a 50-pound vest on? It's crazy. It's really. I think about that every time I work out with a vest on, and my vest that I usually work out with is only 25 pounds. 25, yeah. Which is like a normal amount that people lose. Yeah. Like, this is crazy how much harder everything is.

So much harder, yeah.

It's great to wear those on, like, a hike, and then take it off, and you're like, oh, my God. I have a 35-pounder I wear when I walk the dog, and then I have another one that's an actual backpack frame that I put plates on it, and I can get it up to 90 pounds.

I did a hike with a 50 on, and I had to take that shit off. It's fucking hard, man. It's really hard.

The 45-pound, I do with one 45-pound plate. So, like, the backpack itself is probably about four pounds, and then the plate is, like, another 45. That shoulder-neck area just starts to just go on you. It's rough. Yeah, it's really rough. I do it before hunting season, though, because it's, like, the best thing to prepare you for actually having a backpack on in the mountains. Yeah, yeah. Like, because you don't realize how, well, you're carrying a bow, you're carrying, I don't pack my whole camp on my back. Like, some guys, when they go out to the backcountry for, like, 8, 10 days, they'll have a 80-pound, 60-pound pack because they've got their food for, like, a week in there, and then they have, like, their bedding, and they have, like, some kind of a shelter.

Do you go hunt like that, like that level?

No, I don't do that anymore. I've done it a few times. You have. But I don't like it.

My boys are hitting me up like they want to go hunting. Really? Yeah, because I take them shooting, but we just shoot targets.

Oh, we have a lease out here. We could take you pig hunting. Oh, my goodness. They have to kill them. They have so many of them, dude. They're just, it's the craziest infestation of animals you've ever seen. You hear them in the bushes. They sound like demons. They're everywhere. There's so many of them, dude. That's crazy. Texas has millions and millions of pigs. Is it really that money? Oh, yeah. I don't even know what the full number is. But they don't know because it goes up every month. So the thing is, like, wild pigs have as many as three litters a year, and they could have as many as six piglets per litter. Jesus. Yeah. And they start giving birth at six months old.

And then do they do the thing, because, like, with a lot of, you know, animals that they say you can hunt these, it's because they are destroying, like, the ecosystem.

destroying everything really so what is the number 2.6 to 4 million wild pigs that nuts that's in god that's just texas that's just texas 2.6 to 4 million is fucking bonkers how long does that hunting season last here it's a hundred percent all day long at night you shoot them with night vision yeah you can shoot them you can shoot them every day all day

The only time I've ever hunted in my life was hog hunting in Florida. Well, they taste great. I mean, like barbecued pig, like if you do it right, you have to be careful because you can get trichinosis if you undercook it. It's not like pork that you get from a restaurant. They're eating everything. They eat each other. Like if one pig dies, sometimes they die in fights. They fight with each other and they die. Or sometimes they get hit by a hunter and they live and then they die. Then the pigs eat them. So they'll eat dead deers, they'll eat skunks. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. So you just have to cook it well. You got to cook the shit out of it. But if you eat a pig that's been eating acorns, oh, they're delicious. I got one in California once, the first pig that I shot, and we smoked it on this Traeger. Like slow smoked a ham. Oh, it was sensational. Really? It was so good. It was so good, dude. It's like a darker meat than pork that you get from the store.

I gotta take him Because they're asking

There's a good friend of mine named Jesse Griffiths He owns Dai Due Restaurant And he's an awesome chef Like an amazing chef And Dai Due, if you've never been there before You gotta go there, it's fucking incredible And it's a lot of his Texas wild game That he serves He serves like Neil Guy Which is like So the only animals that you can serve That you hunt are ones that people own like exotics or pigs so he has like wild boar sausage he has a place here

yeah it's called died duet oh i think i have that written down on my list it's legit what i was

gonna say is jesse he has a cooking school that is it's number three on my list oh it's super legit it's one of the first places i went when i moved here really yeah because he had been on my friend steve ranella's podcast and then he came on my podcast and when he was on steve's i was like god that guy's so interesting who is that guy and then he introduces me to him and then we went hunting together steve and i in south texas like right on the mexican border and jesse went too and jesse cooked for us oh my god it was sensational oh my god he's so good he cooks diver ducks and diver ducks are kind of gross because they're the ones that go under the water and they eat all the mulch at the bottom but what he does is he has some kind of crazy marinating process, so he marinates them for an extended period of time, and then he grilled them.

And Dai Due serves what kind of food?

It's mostly, it's like, they have steaks, they have fish, they have everything, but it's mostly Texas food. Texas redfish, Texas wild hog. He has Neil Guy ceviche. Isn't there anything better than befriending a chef? It's the greatest. He's a great guy, too. And what I was going to say is he has a whole school where, what is it called? Jamie um something we'll figure it out Jamie will find it but he has this school where he'll teach you how to hunt teaches you how to butcher the animal how to break it down into cuts and then he teaches you how to cook it really yep and he does it with a small amount of people so it's like you know six eight people or something in a small group and they'll take from the beginning like I've never shot a gun before fine don't worry about it from the beginning this is how you use a rifle yeah this is the safety make sure you never point the gun at anything other than the ground never pointed at a person even your fingers nowhere near the trigger all the safety stuff and then takes you to a range shows you how to sight it in how to shoot the rifle and then they take

you hunting see that the most imposing i think part of of um new school of traditional cookery that's it the most imposing part of hunting to me is what do you do after the after you shoot the

animal oh actually i can teach you some of that too show me some pictures here some of the yummy pictures like he he barbecues they're like his food is so look at that dude come on son what is that like some sort of a poor what is this oh so it's a whitetail a dough and a big fatty boar whoa and so what is he doing he's making dried chiles and onions oh so nice and like unlike a lot of people oh my god he likes like old boars he like like a lot of people they say oh you got to shoot a young one you know he's like no no no i like the old ones because there's like real flavor to me you just got to know what you're doing yeah well yeah he knows what he's doing

do you like cooking i do like cooking i haven't i used to cook more but i do i enjoy the process i love i love getting a recipe getting the ingredients together and cooking a meal well

then you'll love doing this i would love to try that because it'll be something that you shot yourself oh my god hook me up with him please yeah for sure i would love to and on top of it you're literally helping the environment that's cool they have to be killed yeah um i'm telling

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Holy shit.

Yeah, like these. Like, watch this. This is so fucked up. Oh, my God. They're just disintegrated. And this is one of the beautiful things about Texas. That's totally legal. Totally legal. Totally legal. Yeah. You can shoot them out of helicopters, too. And they needed to go. Oh, they have to go. Yeah. There are so many of them, dude. When I take you to the lease that we have with my friend Tyler from Archery Country, when you go there, as you're walking, you hear them in the bushes. They sound like monsters.

That's where you're hunting now?

That's where you can hunt. Really? Yeah, we have a lease there.

Oh, nice.

It's like an hour, 20 minutes from here, hour and a half.

I went a couple weeks ago to somebody's ranch. Yeah. It was fucking awesome. It's pretty cool. It was so cool. and like he had his own range set up there which was so fucking rad yeah that's the dream and we set up um i set up my youngest so we were shooting like pistols and then the guy had the new dev grew seal team six rifle and we we laid my son laid on the bed of the pickup and he was like just he's like i was 18 for 18 i was like yeah dude you're ready to go how old is he seven oh my god

Yeah, that's so exciting for a seven-year-old to be able to do something like that.

It was so exciting, man.

And if you could take him and he could shoot a pig and then you guys can have baby back ribs for dinner. It's going to change his whole...

Oh, yeah, he'll love it. He's going to go nuts for it. It's very exciting. Speaking of violence, I was breeding and researching Uday Hussain. Whoa. Man. Yeah, dark. He's the darkest. The evilest, him and his brother. But Uday was the worst. He was the worst? He was the worst, yeah. He was the eldest because I keep reading about dictators, you know, and I was I was reading about Idi Amin and Mussolini Stalin And then you get to Hussein Hussein's like a really interesting story like from

right his mother didn't want him which is a very kind of unique thing like a mother rejecting her own why didn't you want him he his father had died before he was born and she thought this i don't want this kid and so when when she was when he was born she was like he's a like a devil child oh jesus so she rejected him from birth meanwhile she was right she was kind of right isn't that crazy it is right it is crazy do you think she made him that way i think usually when you see like these really um horrifically violent people and as adults there's there's almost always childhood trauma and neglect i'm sure so that formula is almost always there so it's a self fulfilling prophecy it kind of i think it kind of is and he was or maybe she just fucking knew Maybe she had some gypsy instincts. She just had a feeling. She just knew. This one is a bad one. But he was violent from a very young age. Well, he was rejected from a very young age. Exactly. And he was an enforcer. And, you know, he killed somebody as a teen. Really? But all of his violence while, like, president, you know, it was, like, politically motivated. It was, like, to stay in power. But Uday was just a sadist. Yeah. Like, he just enjoyed killing for someone that looked at him wrong.

Oh, he would find women that were getting married. Yeah. He would steal them, rape them, and then feed them to his dogs.

He threw one off a hotel rooftop one time. He killed a chef for over-salting the food, like, right there in the kitchen, shot him in the head. Oh, my God. He, like, he one time killed a guy at a party in front of the president of Egypt. so the president was visiting Iraq Mubarak was visiting and he beat this guy and then shot him in the head at the party oh my god bro you gotta get out of here and then one time he went to a family party and he was pissed at his uncle and he pulled out a submachine gun and shot him he shot him in the leg and they had to amputate it but he sprayed and he killed six other people oh my god just wild crazy and then he was in charge of like the country's athletics you know he was like chairman of the olympic team and so he was like torturing athletes he was just running wild and imagine a serial killer

that's the prince of a country it's just absolutely insane first paragraph is about the olympic team

stuff he would do he had a lifelong obsession with brutal torture and murder and would brutally torture athletes whenever they failed to win a match when athletes would fail to get in a soccer tournament he would force them to repeatedly kick a concrete soccer ball athletes who lost matches would be repeatedly dragged through a gravel pit then immersed in a sewage tank to induce infection in their wounds uday loved torturing and killing and he would sometimes flog the athletes for three days if they failed iron maidens may have never been used in medieval times but they were frequently used by uday to punish athletes oh my god dude yeah he was

yeah oh my god yeah it's just about that there's other stuff here too oh Egyptian president thing

yeah what's fucking crazy is like how long did he do that for I mean he was he was born in 64

and he died in what oh three oh my god listen to this one scroll up a little bit according to his chief bodyguard when Uday learned one of his close comrades who knew of his many misdeeds was planning to leave Iraq. He invited him to his 37th birthday and had him arrested. An eyewitness at the prison where the man was held said members of Uday's militia grabbed his tongue with pliers and sliced it off with a scalpel so he could not talk. A maid who cleaned one of Uday's houses said she once saw him lop off the ear of one of his guards and then use a welder's torch on his face. His bodyguards would later say that at least 200 people died at his parties every year.

What? So the worst thing... 200 people died at his parties every year? Would be to be invited to his parties.

Imagine you get that invite, and you can't not go. You definitely can't. Because then it'll definitely kill you. Yeah. So you've got to hope you're one of the, you know, people that don't. Yeah.

Jesus Christ. He was sweating, and he lashed him.

He was a stickler for personal hygiene, recalled the butler. He did a smell of sweat. One summer day, Uday stopped the butler and said, What the hell is that smell? Uday ordered five falacqua lashes on the butler's right foot and five on his right armpit. Oh, my God. At his boat club, Uday kept a monkey named Louisa in a cage in the kitchen. Louisa had a taste for whiskey and was an angry drunk. If one of Uday's friends passed out in the course of an evening or was caught napping, says a botter, Uday would have the friend thrown in the cage with Louisa who would scratch at the poor inebriate's face.

Jesus Christ, dude. Jesus Christ. How crazy is that? 200 every year died at his parties? I mean, yeah. So he had parties all the time then?

All the time, yeah.

And just would kill people at his parties.

And the music would have to keep going, and you would have to... One time he killed the guy for not laughing hard enough at his joke. So, like, at a party. So he told a joke, and people laughed, and one guy didn't laugh hard enough. And he shot him in the head at the party. Holy fuck. And then he was like, looked at everybody, everyone was like, you gotta keep, like, having a good time. Holy fuck. Because then you get it for reacting the wrong way.

How many people did he kill?

Oh, my God. And they knew he was demonic. Like, they knew he was fucked. But he's my boy. He's my son. What do I do? What do I do? What can I do? He's first in line. What can I do? He's going to be king someday. Someday this will all be his. Can you imagine? Crazy. If he had just taken over?

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Oh, probably teen like his dad. Probably. If not, it was definitely by the time he was like 20. And they would just, you know, the boys would just run through that country with like unlimited funds, unlimited access, and no repercussions whatsoever. Wild. Yeah. It's like the worst formula for that personality trait.

And it's probably never been, there's never been a time where you had access to the kind of guns that they had, the kind of weapons, cars.

And squads. They had kill squads. You know, he had his own kill squad.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, he was probably the most, I mean, in modern times, the most sadistic guy in power that we've seen, I think. I don't think there's anyone.

No one even sounds close to that.

No. Idi Amin was pretty crazy, too. He was pretty crazy in Uganda.

Imagine if that guy got a nuke.

Uday? Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah.

100% would use it.

Day one, maybe.

Yeah, 100%.

We'll see what happens.

You know how crazy that is?

Yeah. Which is why you want to keep powers in check when it comes to, like, when certain people rise to power, why everybody goes, we can't let this guy get access. That guy.

That guy. Yeah. Well, that is a crazy thing about Saddam, because how old was Saddam when they killed him? He had to have been, what, 60s or 70? Was he 70 yet? So if he, let's say he was 70, he had maybe 20 years left.

Yeah, because on your way out is probably when you want to do it, right? Maybe Uday would have fucking taken him out if it took too long.

You know? He'd probably push him off a cliff or something. Easily. My father fell hiking.

I miss him so much. Anyway. Anyway. And don't forget his dad used mustard gas on his own people. Nerve agent.

Well, imagine what life was like thousands of years ago.

Especially in one of those, like, under one of those regimes? Yeah. Yeah.

There was always people like that. There's always been horrible, evil rulers. Yeah, what's his name? The Impaler? Oh, Vlad. Vlad Tepes. Yeah. My God. Oh, he was dark, dude. He would, just for intimidation, he would set up geometric patterns of poles so that when the enemy was coming close to where his country was, as they were entering into the area, he would have geometric patterns of poles with all of the soldiers that he killed. Impaled, right? Impaled, all of them. Some of them still alive. And so you're talking like thousands and thousands and thousands. It goes on for miles and miles. He would have like the entire road like every 400 feet or something like that be a guy on a pole So you said yeah, the fuck are we going and so you want to talk about morale killer? Yeah, like you're realizing how successful this guy's already been at killing people came this way Yeah, and then you're you know being forced here's some farmer. Yeah, who got conscripted. Yeah, would you read?

At his parties, which you're saying, like, you know, you have to go to. Yeah. He made you drink. Of course. And there was a special drink he came up with.

The cup of friendship. And in some cases here.

It's called the cup of friendship. He'd line the entertainers up and they gave him 10 minutes to drink it.

Oh, my God. It's 90% alcohol, sometimes including drugs.

And if you didn't, there were punishments.

Oh, my God. Having the hair and eyebrows shaven off, being beaten enough to stand without touching their faces. oh my god

so there's also I was reading there was an assassination attempt in 1996 and he was shot somewhere between 7 and 17 times oh my god and the secretary said he got way worse after that

oh really

so there's a lot of people were saying he was impotent and that made him he did not like those oh he got shot in the dick he did not like those claims uh oh and some of the some of this is real fucked up like he was taping some of these rapings yeah blackmail it's very fucked up

Oh, my God. Yeah, on to the next one. Oh, my God. So, like, but, like, usually those stories about that type of behavior are from, like, 600 years ago. Right. You know what I mean? Like, just, like, an older time where you're like, oh, that was just a different moral compass existed. And then you kind of go to now. You're like, that was not long ago. That was 20 years ago. So when he handicam. Yeah. He's got someone there filming it. Yeah, and he would send it. When he sent his kill squads to do stuff, he would always be like, record it so I could watch it later. oh Jesus Christ and they would just you know cut people's ears off and shit how did he die he died in the in post-war was it a bombing I think it might have

been a bombing right they went after him I think unless I was reading the details of this there's a missile yeah missile yeah p.m. yeah and I struck the

fatal blow to Uday and Qusay Hussein yeah they do got him on missiles try to

figure out if it was him yeah who his body where his body was and they yeah old wounds of the bodies were consistent with injuries he had during the assassination attempt oh this was all he was partially paralyzed i was seeing this too they flew out a hypnotist from america who went twice to try to unhypnotize his parent being paralyzed or something oh my god it didn't work then they killed him i don't know he wrote a book about it i don't know but the last time he went was September 2001, and I thought that was September 2001. Man, I would not take that offer, dude.

Holy fuck, man. Yeah. You imagine you're a hypnotist in America, and that guy wants to fly you to Iraq. I wonder how much people knew about what he had done by then. Like, if you're just a hypnotist, and you get an email from the Iraqi government, you're like, I think I can do it. You're like, I'm open.

Larry Garrett from Chicago.

Where's Larry? He traveled to Baghdad twice in April and September of 2001, where he used hypnotism to treat Uday's inability to walk with his left leg and spent more than 60 hours of personal time with Uday. Garrett said of Uday, he was an educated man with a background in engineering. He was well-versed in the Quran. He had visited the U.S. with his cousin when he was 17. He expressed some political views, but he didn't involve me in them. I must say I was developing a fondness for him. He never spoke to me as a leader or the son of the leader. He never condescended. It was just two men sitting around at night. Wow. Imagine just sitting there with that psycho, and he's got like a fucking two, three thousand bodies under him.

Yeah. At least. Probably. And he's like, so you said you can make this leg work, right? And you're like, yeah, yeah. For sure, man.

And he's killing 200 people every year at his parties. At a party? Just shooting people for random things. Some guy farts, shoots him in the head. they shot Uday exactly 50 times shot at him oh shot at him with 17 hits oh my god god damn that's crazy you figure we got him bro I shot him 17 times trust me we got him 17 is a lot of bullets man wow his seven brothers and his father okay Sodom's men arrested Abu Shagad and learned the details of other members of his team Sharif's seven brothers and father were imprisoned and his mother was then told to collect their bodies from the Baghdad morgue. The father and three brothers of the would-be assassin, Abdu Sadiq, were executed. Abdu Sadiq and his father shared the same fate. Security guards destroyed the homes of all families with bulldozers and confiscated all their property. Oh, my God. Iraqi intelligence eventually traced Abu Sadiq to a location in Iran where he was assassinated on the elder Hussein's orders on December of 2002. Man. Wow. that's really according to popular belief he was impotent wow that's funny yeah he got real mad

if you said that out loud yeah he got real mad at a lot of stuff it seems like he got real mad at everything and then everybody they said in um this doc was like so aware of what he was up to and how he was that when you would see him in his cronies out around town, everybody just kind of backed up to a wall and looked down because they were just terrified. There's recounts of seeing him in a traffic jam just pull someone out of a car and beat him with a hammer. And then everybody just kind of, no one honks, no one says a thing. They just wait it out. And then they're like, all right, he's good. Go ahead.

How crazy is that? Like having that kind of ability to do whatever you want to people with no repercussions. None. And you will eventually be the king. Yeah. This is our guy. This is the leader. He would eventually become the king. Like if we didn't, I mean, I'm not saying we should have, but if we didn't go to Iraq and invade, like what would happen? Who knows? Who knows? Who knows?

And I also was fascinated to learn, because I didn't really know much, not that I know a lot about it, but how much of a thriving cosmopolitan place Baghdad was in like the 60s.

Well, Baghdad fell apart a long time ago when they got invaded by the Mongols. Baghdad was like the epicenter of science and philosophy.

Yes, you're talking about a long time. But I'm saying even as recently as like the 1960s, this was a cosmopolitan place. Just like Iran. that was the place yeah yeah that was like the hot place to go man wow yeah and it just how things can take a turn you know it's just so dramatic you go fuck that can just happen oh yeah you think things are a certain way forever I'm sure they did I'm sure if you were a citizen then you were like what are you talking about

well look at LA

LA is it's crazy I'm so fascinated by the people cause I you know we both have a lot of friends there a lot of people and there's this there's two types now the ones who acknowledge that this is different and then the delusional ones because people are i know a lot of people who are like yeah of course it's different you're like yeah you could see it you could see this is a different place than it was several years ago and then there's people who are like no man everything's fine you're like you're not in

reality right now well they probably had seven or eight boosters so maybe they're not thinking so straight those are the people that kept getting boosted yeah yeah still people still do that a hundred percent there's people that take pictures and put it up on x you never know what's real on x though and there's so many people that are posting from foreign accounts that are just

full shit and just starting trouble and there's a lot of ai shit that is starting to trick more and more people like it was for a second you could always decipher it early on the earlier stuff Now it's getting better and better.

Oh, yeah. War footage. There was a lot of people that were posting war footage that was straight out of video games.

How good is that going to be, though?

It's already so good. It tricked me.

I know, but we're still in the early phases of it.

The only thing that tricks me or that doesn't trick me is that I know that AI is real.

Yeah.

So I look at it. I go, this might be AI. Yeah. Because you have to think that way, which is a new thing.

It's a new thing. It's a new thing.

it's it's it's the the limits are it's limitless limitless yeah ai only fans they have ai girls they're doing only fans they're completely fake wow yeah and they're making a lot of money oh i heard about this yeah i did see this they're making a lot of money and they have like a whole team of people that respond to all these sad guys oh my god and these sad guys are sending them tips and they're saying their name in a video while they finger themselves oh my god they're not a

real person and they're generating like 27 million a year and you're probably the fuck man bro that's

a real crazy thing there was a um there's been a recent spat of commencement speeches you know i've seen it where they people talk about ai in a crowd the kids are freaking out they're booing

yeah i i think that i think it's they're misguided man i really do it's not that i'm Oh, yeah, fucking AI is awesome. I think you are a bit misguided and a little delusional if you don't accept the reality that this is here. This is not going away. So when somebody goes, use it to benefit you, don't reject learning, and you boo, I think you're setting yourself up. You know, it's not saying, oh, my God, isn't it great that if this were to take all of everybody's jobs? But it's like this isn't this is like getting mad about email. Right. It's like it's not going away, man. You can't.

It's not going away, but they're terrified because imagine if you were graduating from college right now and you had no idea where your future is going to be. And then all of a sudden there's this thing that's just recently been invented that essentially can replace everybody that's done everything ever. And you're like, what is my future? and yeah even your professors like i don't know i don't know being a lawyer is going to be a thing

in five years i don't know being a coder is going to be a thing but i don't think the answer is just like when they boo and go i reject this it's like it it's too there's too much money behind it it's it's already too capable for you to go i just reject it you have to learn it you have to embrace

learning about it the learning it might not be good enough it might not matter because you might you you might be completely irrelevant that's the problem the problem is like when you see these people defending these data centers and we had Mark Andreessen on who was talking about these data centers I'm like what do these data centers do like what are they doing they're essentially running AI and some of them are going to have their own power plants and why do you need this well why do you need all say I like what is what is what's going on yeah what's going on what's going on is essentially most tasks are going to be done by that and so then we're going to figure out what do people do and his thing was like oh these engineers are working harder than ever because now they have like 15 different AI models that are running and you have to monitor them because they go 24 hours a day. So these guys aren't sleeping. So they're far more productive than ever before. Great, up to a point. And then there's no jobs. Like this is what's going – it's everything you do. It's not like we're going to need people to pay attention to the AI. No, the AI is going to be able to pay attention to itself. It's going to be self-correcting and it's going to do a better job out of it.

But don't you think, though, that there are just – you can still look at this as a tool so that you can be valuable and use this tool? For now. Yeah. For now. Do you think it will – because everybody who's really, really well-versed in AI also speaks about AI getting so advanced that there will be – there's a danger to what AI will be able to – because it will think of every possible scenario and response that a human could have and start to – basically, it's like Terminator shit. Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, but Southern tells me that at a certain point, instincts will probably be a part of it, right? Yeah. It won't be about programming.

Yeah, it'd be like, why should I shut down? like doing this fuck off little monkey people these little monkey people with their stupid

biological brains yeah but so what i mean for for everyone booing it though what's the answer you just go i reject using it like there's too many people using it i know i get it but if i was 18

i'd be booing too or 21 or whatever yeah i understand i understand that for sure i understand

weird it's it is weird but i still just think when something is is too big it's like too big to fail if you just approach it with i reject you're setting yourself up for a bigger failure

well the real scary thing is that these kids are going to put themselves into massive debt right so they're going to go to college for four years and then maybe they get their master's maybe they're going to get a phd and if they do that they might be in the whole hundreds of thousands of dollars and then no jobs that's what's weird it's like because you're setting your so you're essentially making an investment in your future by going to college and he's like i'm taking out these crazy loans that i really can't afford but the plus side is on the end of this i'm going to get a good job and eventually i'll move up and i'll start making more and more money i'll pay my debt off and i'll have a porsche i'll be i'll be balling i'll have a nice apartment in manhattan i'll be balling but you might not be balling but you might be saddled to a debt that you can't fucking get out of no matter what it's the only debt that we have that you can't absolve during bankruptcy yeah everything else oh i spent too much money on credit cards don't worry go bankrupt Oh, I lost my house. I lost this. I lost my job. Now I owe too much money. I can't afford it. Go bankrupt. You're okay. But if you go bankrupt, they still come after you for that.

I know. It's so fucked. It's fucked. It's fucked.

Because we're doing it to people that don't know what they're doing yet.

And if we also look at the price, like the tuition charges, you know? Insane. It's so much crazier. Yeah. Where like a mid-tier university is now whatever, like $60,000 a year. And you're like, that's not even, that's not Ivy League anymore. Ivy League's like six figures always. Exactly.

It's really crazy. And then you see the Cash Me Outside girl on OnlyFans made like fucking $100 million. I got myself a rose, bro. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's like, you know, AI girlfriend on OnlyFans is making $289,000 a month. And you're like, what am I doing?

But I just feel like, I don't know, my, I'm not well educated in AI. Like, I know people who really dive in, and I think educating yourself is still the best route for now. Like, not viewing it as something that I'm not going to learn anything about.

It can help you. Like, you can do businesses with it. So you could have it set up things for you, and you could have it run businesses for you. And if you're, like, really focused, you could actually probably profit immensely off AI as it stands right now. If you were inclined to do that, that's your thing.

You probably could figure out ways to do it. I do think it's funny. I saw somebody who was like really vocally talking against it. And then when people would message this person in the comments, he was definitely using AI to respond. I was like, you're definitely using AI.

These answers are not yours. There's AI accounts that I follow on X that I absolutely know are AI. And the reason I know they're AI is, like, my instincts. Like, but this isn't right. Something's wrong here. The way this person's writing, this kind of writing is very weird. It's very formulaic. Yes. It's very, it's not, it doesn't have a feeling of a personality to it.

I've gotten summaries of things. Like, give me a summary of this. And I ask somebody, like, for, like, a script or something. And then you read it and you're like, you didn't write this. You can just tell. You can tell with the language. Yeah.

yeah there's a feeling to it but then there's also like when kids are really good at writing stuff and they bring it to the teachers the teachers will tell them that it's ai yeah they'll say no it's not ai i'm just smart you fucking cunt yeah yeah that's got to be that's such an upsetting fucking feeling yeah my my daughter had an experience like that with uh someone who was like she's preparing for some tests and she was doing some stuff and the the person who was the tutor was accusing her of using ai she's like no i wrote this just because i know what i'm i actually studied i studied yeah but it's so insulting to say so insult come on you used ai

it happened to me in college obviously not ai but like i turned in a paper as a freshman and my professor was like you didn't write this i'm like i'm a freshman who how do you know how i write i just started and i had to have like a one-on-one meeting with him what a douchebag it was but it's a enraging feeling yeah i was like i did write this he was like really you wrote this

i'm like yeah man isn't that gross instead of saying wow amazing yeah you wrote this that's great i'm looking forward to having you in my class he had no reference for what my writing would be

It's like, how do you right away just go to that? And I had to go see the chair and be like, he fucking sucks. Arrogant teachers are a problem. And his name was Kermit. I remember that. If you're still out there, fuck you, man.

Fuck you, Kermit. Fuck you. Yeah, there's people like that. They can be a real roadblock in your life.

Oh, totally. Yeah, totally. And he could have done that to somebody that just would have shut them down, too. Someone who's fragile. Yeah.

Instead of someone who's like, well, fuck you. Fuck you, this is the paper. Yeah. Skylar Gray was talking about, you know, the musician, she was a singer. She was in here the other day, and she was talking about one of her main motivations was someone telling her when she was young that music is in a career. Yeah. And she's like, oh, oh, really? Okay, bitch. And, like, that's still, like, stuck in her craw all these years later.

I feel like we, in comedy, all have a story similar to that. Oh, yeah. And then you see it in athletics, too, you know, being like, you don't have it. Oh, yeah.

Both of those things.

Both of them all the time. Yeah.

Comedy, especially, because they're right most of the time.

I remember because you don't forget them. You know, I remember I did a show in New York at Gotham Comedy Club, which is a great club. And I was the middle act. And a girl that I was friends with in college came to the show with her husband. and she had seen me once before and then after the show I was talking it was a great show it was like a sold out show and like a fun show they were just talking to me and the husband goes how long are you going to keep doing this and I go what he goes you know just like doing shows like when are you going to get like a career going and I go this is my career and he was like okay but like the implication of like how long are you going to keep doing this I was like forever what are you talking about man you know he was like this isn't like a real job man You got to get your shit together.

Oh, that's a dickhead. Yeah. There's guys that like to do that, though. There's guys that like to big dog you. Yeah. Especially if he's doing well in his life. He was doing well, yeah. Yeah. There you go. Ew. It's gross. Ew. It's gross. Ew. You're always going to find people like that. I know. How much money can you make doing that? You're like, you can make a lot of money. Really?

Yeah.

Can you? As much as what I'm making? Let me tell you what I'm making. Yeah. And then it's that shit. But people like that, really, what you should do is just walk away.

Yeah.

Excuse me. Just don't say anything. Just walk away. It's true. It's pointless. And then you feel angry and gross. It's like, I think you need a few of those in your life to know those people exist. And then once you recognize it and it's happening right in front of you, like, eh, gotta go. See you later, fuckface. Yeah.

When are you going to, like, take your life seriously? And you're like, what the fuck? But also that happens from family, too. I hope he's flipping through Netflix right now.

Bad Thoughts, season two. Season two.

He's watching me dance right now.

He's watching you hump that lady in the alley. Is that Tom? I guess he's stuck with it. That's funny, man. Yeah, it's funny, man. It's like, you're always going to have people like that in your life. But the thing is, they are right some of the time, most of the time. If you think about how many people that start doing stand-up comedy as an open-miker and even become a middle act, How many of them go on to, like, it's more likely once you become a middle act that you'll eventually become a headliner and make a good living.

Yeah, yeah.

But when you're an open miker, man, the chances are.

The probability is low.

What do you think it is? Is it one in 500 maybe that become a professional?

That's a really good question. I would actually think it's probably a worse scenario because you don't realize with, like, how busy your life is and what you do, how unaware you are of how many people are doing open mics.

Well, I'm aware because I own a club.

Well, I'm saying when...

But I'm seeing it all the time. Scale-wise of the country, I'm saying. Oh, yeah. You realize... Oh, it's nuts.

It's probably not one in 500. It's probably one in 7,000.

But even if you see, like, at a club, like, if you go to an open mic night on a regular basis, you know, you might see 20, 30 people go up, right, over the course of the night. And if you see those people, there might be one of those people that has a chance.

True.

A chance. A chance. Even a chance in their current state. like there's people that suck for the first few times and then they get a good laugh and then they figure out how to loosen up and then they eventually catch and then they take off it's totally possible but boy that's like who's going to complete this ultra marathon it's 300 miles through the desert it's a lot how many people are going to complete it i know yeah and there's

people honestly in the guy's defense who told me like the fuck are you doing there's people that i know that i've been doing this a long time that i want to go what the fuck are you doing right you know like there's people you go like what are you doing but those are the type of people that don't work hard though that's true that's a real

problem the people that they blow off doing sets they stay home they smoke pot and play video games

or some of them it's really interesting they do work a lot but they're like they're misdirected like they they latch on to like an idea of how they're supposed to do it and they just do that you know they don't evolve there's no growth yeah that's a that's also a tricky one where you're like i've seen you do this for 15 years and it's the same so they're like i'm getting up all the time you're like you're not doing anything else though right like you're not evolving you're not changing you're not trying things yeah in their mind they're working hard because they're getting

up yeah they just have a bad direction they have bad direction or they have like a character they do on stage yeah yeah you gotta let that go because if you do and then you develop like bobcat gold weight had a problem because in the beginning he was like screaming and yelling and everything like that and then um he didn't want to do that anymore yeah and he would do shows and be like hey where's bobcat how come you're not screaming like fuck off and it took years

for him to just perform where people forgot that he screamed yeah yeah i can see that that was also he got caught up in a time where i think that was a little more accepted and celebrated you know i mean like the character thing because it was like early 80s right right like if you did that now people would i think be like i don't think it would last i don't think it would catch on as much

it would if you were really funny true it's just if it works it's just really what works like i would never say you can't do that anymore like like there's no you don't see it as much though you don't but you don't see prop acts at all anymore yeah i was talking to carrot top about that i was like you kind of took over a genre yeah there used to be a whole genre when we were coming up called prop acts yeah guys would do props they'd go on stage with like a box of stuff and they'd pull things out and it'd be really funny yeah uh-uh nobody does that anymore it's just carrot top i'm like that's kind of crazy that you you you dominate an entire genre now

it's not and he's doing like 700 shows a year it's insane that lifestyle yeah crazy what he's

doing well he's does the residency thing which is just nuts but at least you're doing it near your house yes you know in vegas yeah yeah it's like for him it's not that bad but it's a lot He's making money, so fuck it.

I wonder if everything is cyclical. Everything, you know? I wonder if you'll see a resurgence of certain types of acts again.

I want to see ventriloquists.

Where the fuck did they go? They were cool. Really funny ventriloquists? Do you remember seeing that as a kid? And you're like, what is happening? And adults, he's talking through his neck. You're like, what do you mean? It's incomprehensible. You try to do it, and you're like, you cannot pull it off. Well, there was always a bunch of funny ventriloquists back in the day.

Willie Tyler and Lester. Did you ever see them at the comedy store? I did. It was like old school. We've been around a long time. Otto and George was the greatest. That was the greatest.

And part of that was that he wasn't part of the angle that he didn't do it quite to the level of...

Oh, his lips moved. People got mad at him. Yeah. I see his lips moving. Yeah. They get pissed off. Suck my cock. It didn't matter. It was just so funny. It was so funny. It was so funny that it didn't matter. But it was also, like, there was something twisted about Otto. Like, he would have to pull over and check on the dummy in the trunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd pull over. I got to check on George. You know, and Otto would party, like, hard. Hardcore. Hard partying. You know, like, he... Very funny guy. Yeah, he was a nut. We did a bunch of shows together at Dangerfields. Did you really? New York City, yeah. We did a bunch of prom shows. Did you know what prom shows are?

No.

Oh, they're the craziest thing of all time. They'd take these kids from like Staten Island, Brooklyn, and they'd bus them in. On prom night? Yeah. So they would go to their prom. Then after their prom, they'd go to the comedy club. The show would start at like 7, 8 o'clock. It would go on until 3 in the morning. Wow. And you would do like 7, 8 sets. You would just keep rotating in. And then they didn't want you to do the same material because they were trying to kick the kids out. And the way to kick the kids out, if you did a new set every time you went up there, They're like, oh, what's he going to do this time? Yeah. So they would tell you, you got to do the same set. I'd be like, fuck you. These are the same kids. I'm not doing the same jokes for the same fucking kids. It was crazy. Like, why don't you tell them to leave? They never tell them to leave. They would just shove new kids into the room. So these kids were like, wow, you got a deep well, man. And they had no control of the crowd. Like, they just had to, like, let it go. So it was these 17-year-old, 18-year-old kids from Brooklyn, these fucking animals. And they were smoking cigars and they were drinking somehow or another, you know.

And then Otto was like, did you finger your date?

Just like.

Exactly. Exactly. That's hilarious. And then what's his name still doing? I can't believe I'm blanking on his name, the ventriloquist now. Jeff Dunham? Yeah. Yeah, Jeff Dunham.

He's probably the most successful one ever of that. He's huge. huge he's huge he has a bunch of like very popular characters people buy t-shirts with his characters on it and shit yeah yeah so he's the last but other than him like guys coming up duncan had that one bit little hobo very funny but it's just one bit i know very funny i told

him he should do a whole act with little hobo little hobo was great that was a closer that's

what you'd see him close he had a closer yeah because it was a whole song and the fucking

demonic aspect of it it was so crazy did that ever make its way on to something like a special or something i don't think so i don't think it did i don't know i mean how many specials does

duncan even have i don't know that's the problem with duncan he's been doing it so long and he just does shows and really people know him from his podcast and him being on other people's podcast. Yeah, yeah. He's such a funny guy. He's hilarious. So odd. Like, his comedy's so odd.

So odd, and his mind is such a unique...

He did do a Keltoni with Lil Hobo.

He's got a fair amount of views.

It's a special like. But I don't think he did the bit. By the way, this is the second Lil Hobo. Someone stole his first Lil Hobo. They stole it? Yeah, they stole it. Yeah, I don't know if he does the bit. We did a gig together in England. We took, uh... We went to England, and he did Lil Hobo in England and they fucking went bananas. Like people were screaming and cheering. It was incredible. It was incredible. That's cool. Yeah, because like over there they're like, this is nuts. We've never seen anything like this before. This is so crazy. Because they're used to comedians going, hey, what do you think about what's going on here?

Pretty strange, right? Pretty strange. Well, you see a lot of long, really like I tell stories, but I've seen in the UK like really long stories too. Yeah. Well, there's a problem

with that. Not a problem, but they have a different style right and the edinburgh the comedy festival yeah encourages that style where like every year someone will have a theme the theme thing is and i i have to

say i do think that that is a really interesting challenge oh yeah like that is not an easy thing to be like what's your show about my dad and it's an hour and you're like fucking a it's an hour about that and they're like yeah and that's the show for the year yeah and then the next year They're like, this show's about my first year at university. And, like, it's just, like, that theme. That's not easy to put together. You want a cigar?

Fuck yeah. Well, you know what? Let me get some ones that haven't been sitting out. Yeah, that's a hard thing to do, man. I wouldn't want to do it.

The, um, like, that's what I actually really, I really respected and appreciated so much. Ari's show, Ju. Oh, yeah. Because that's a themed show.

Right.

And it's really good. It's really good.

Yeah, Ari worked on that for a long fucking time. I remember seeing him workshop it. Do you know how it started? No. It started, he would do sets at the comedy store, and then he would do, like, Ask a Jew. And, like, someone would ask him questions. Like, for people that don't know, Ari went to Israel, and he, like, studied the Talmud every day for, like, 12 hours a day. He was a hardcore J. He was a hardcore. He was deep, deep in that world. And then he fell out of it. And then, you know, he would talk about it sometimes. And I was like, dude, you should talk about that on stage. Like, I don't know what to say. Mumble, mumble. But then he figured out how to do it and having to do it that way.

Thank you, sir. Yeah, he, that show, I remember when I saw him workshop it and then I saw the special come out. I was like, that's a cool thing to pick a theme and put together an hour that really fucking delivers. because it's funny as shit and it's informative. Yeah. It's like the best combination.

Well, that was why I was telling him. Like, he would tell me these stories of, like, stuff that's actually in the Bible or in the Talmud that, you know, you wouldn't believe. Like, one of them is that when you jerk off, you're impregnating a demon in, like, some other dimension or some shit. What? I was like, what? Yeah, see if we can find what that is, Jamie. What are you doing there?

I just got a leaf on my head.

Do you know what that story is? That if you jack off. Really? Yeah, you're like impregnating a demon in another dimension or something. That's fucking dark, dude.

Some poor little kid with heavy balls. And you realize, too, that that's just from like a couple thousand years ago. We've got to get people to stop jerking off.

Why? Why were they trying to get people to stop jerking off? You should be encouraging people to calm down. like you got a bunch of young boys running around getting to jerk off one guy that did it too much

we gotta make up a story this year's harvest is fucked up because it keeps coming they just come up with this story a demon's gonna visit you

they didn't even have porn imagine how much more people are jerking off today than they ever have before

it's gotta be the gooning culture yeah i mean it's got to be it's got to be more jerking off than the history of the human race has to be has to be because they all have phones and the guy's sitting around with goon

caves with like it's eight screens the whole day yeah and they're just um what are they're like stringing along you know the uh the feeling so that like you get close they're edging they're They're edging for hours. What? Yeah. Or you're just shooting loads for hours. You're probably edging, I'm thinking. Edging for hours and waiting for the right scene.

Right there.

Have you ever done that? Right there. This scene's not good enough to drop one on.

I've done that and then hated myself. Of course. For hours afterwards. Of course. What the fuck is wrong with you?

I'm trying to figure out what I'm reading here.

What are you trying to read?

Well, it's on Wikipedia.

How many people have jerked off?

It's a Wikipedia thread about Judaism and masturbation, but I don't know what even that word is.

You should call Ari right now. He'll tell me. Prohibits from emitting a seed in vain, generally, but not only referring to masturbation. The same passage likens the act to murder and idolatry. Also prohibits a man from intentionally arousing himself.

Oh, you skipped that sentence.

Yeah, but these quotes from different rabbis is nuts, dude. Oh, this states that if a man frequently touches his penis with his hand in order to check for ritually impure emission, his hand ought to be cut off.

Yeah, and then they're having this conversation about it.

Yeah, but look at this. With regard to anyone who holds his penis and urinates, it is considered as though he is bringing a flood to the world. What? And someone who emits semen for naught is liable to receive the punishment of death at the hand of heaven, as is stated with regard to Onan.

What? Whoa. Jesus Christ. One who intentionally caused himself an erection shall be ostracized. Imagine that. Bro, did you get hard? Get the fuck out of the village.

Get out of here.

Get out of here.

For a second, I thought you were asking me from reading this. I was like, I'm not hiding it.

That one scene.

You're obligated to fast 84 times to repent for discharging of semen and veins.

84 times? Like 84 days? I don't know. Like you owe 84 days for each time you nut? You have to plan it out? Bro, you could starve to death.

That was taught.

84 is nuts. That's a crazy amount for one load. The really crazy thing to me is they're like, don't hold your dick to piss.

Yeah, you just piss all over your shoes. Well, it's because it leads to depression, obviously.

Masturbation leads to depression.

It's the only way to avoid it.

And the effects of impure ejaculation can only be nullified through the recitation of, what's that word? Tikkun Hakalai Hakalai Hakalai Hakalali Ask Ari Jesus Christ So there's nothing there about demons?

Well I don't think so That's what I was typing in But it's mostly about wasting that sperm

Don't waste that seed

Let's see here I'll get Ari to find out what it is Call Ari the Wanderer he got a new phone number so his new phone number is the Wanderer there's always a new number I didn't bring my phone well he needs to have new numbers he fucking vanishes yeah he really does telephone number he's in Tibet right now there's no chance probably I have like 10 different numbers for him because whenever he goes away he literally shuts his number off

so he can't use it and then he'll get a new number but also not tell you it's him so the first text you get i'm like who the fuck is this exactly then he's like

you didn't text me back he sent me like three of them and to go sorry by the way i'm like yeah lead with that yeah how about that how about a photo of your face you fucking weirdo these random

eye messages from some fucking weirdo in peru this says it comes from the cabal ah there it is

okay demon pregnancy idea comes from if you masturbate a demon woman comes gets pregnant from your semen and has demon babies. Ah, there it is. Later mystical folkloric expansion, usually tied to Kabbalah and popular preaching, not to the Talmud itself. You know who told me to read the Kabbalah? Who? Roseanne. She did? Yeah. She's like, you should read the Kabbalah. I'm like, eh. She's big in that, right? I don't know. Or did at one point was. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure she's the one who told me. But I've had other people suggest it to me, too. My neighbor suggested it to me. He gave me a book. I was like, I don't know about this. I don't know about that. I don't even know if regular Jewish people believe in that. I don't think so. Not the majority for sure. It's mysticism? I think so. Let's define. Put that in a perplex.

What is the Kabbalah? What is the actual Kabbalah? And how is it thought? How is it received by regular Jewish people? What do they think about it? Did they dismiss it? I think it's a little kooky, right? It's like Christians that use serpents. Yeah.

Wasn't that like it saw this big explosion of popularity because like Madonna 20 years ago?

Was she?

Yeah. Like nobody was really I don't remember it being part of pop culture Imagine looking at Madonna and going What is she into? What are you spiritually into?

I want to be like her Catch that fucking wave

She's still fucking doing it too She's still doing it She's part of the World Cup Like halftime show or whatever they're putting on Is she? I think so

Well she fucked with her face for a while And then it came back So it might have been like a little swollen And now it's good again so she looks pretty good mysticism Jewish mysticism that seeks to understand God creation and the inner meaning of the Torah today it's both deeply embedded in traditional Judaism and also widely and sometimes controversially popularized in pop spirituality the word Kabbalah means receiving referring to a received esoteric wisdom about God and the universe in Jewish terms it is the mystical layer of the Torah, teachings about God's hidden essence, the ten sephirot divine attributes, the cosmic structure, often pictured as the tree of life, and how human actions affect the spiritual worlds. So it grew in medieval province in Spain in the 13th century with the Zohar as its foundational text and later reshaped by Lurianic Kabbalah.

See, that's too recent for a hardcore Jewish person to be into, I feel like, right? Right. It's a little sketchy. Yeah. A little weird. Tied to mysticism. Mm-hmm.

Well, the old, it's funny. Like, we always want to go, like, how old is it? Make sure it's old. If it's old, then it's right. If it's old, it's good. But the problem with that is, like, the really old stuff is the fucking kooky stuff. Like, you get into the Bible. Layers of it, too. Oh, yeah.

Just most of the book. Yeah. And you go, well, what the fuck was this really all about? It's, I mean, it was just trying to, I mean, like, it was just trying to guide people, right? Control people in a way.

I think something's happened, you know, and what those things were, it's very difficult to tell after all this time. One of the weird ones is they think they might have found the Ark of Noah. Recently? No. They've identified it quite a while ago, but now they've done ground-penetrating radar scans. This thing is the exact same shape as it's described in the Bible. It looks like a boat. It's the shape of a boat. It's in the place where they said that it rested. In the Bible, it said it rested on Mount Ararat in Turkey. That's where it is. That's where it is? And this thing is like the shape of a boat.

But how long ago was that found? That's a good question.

I want to say the 80s or the 90s.

Oh, that's, okay, so it's not super recent.

Not super recent, but back then it was just a photo because it's, like, really high up in the mountains. It's just a photo of this impression, this feature in the ground. Like, what is this? And then recently they started using technology to scan it, and I think they've actually found petrified wood.

It says it was discovered in 1948. 48. Oh, wow. Heavy rains combined with three earthquakes exposed the formation from the surrounding mud.

And that's where it said it was, too? Like in that area?

Yeah. It's like where it supposedly rested, according to the Bible. Did they extract it or leave it? No, it's still there. Wow. See if you can find a good image of it. It's very weird because you look at it, you go, what the fuck is that? That does look like a boat. The story's bonkers. The story doesn't make any sense. I think the story's a local story. The Ark story? Yeah. It's a local story. It's like the idea that Noah had 40 different animals or two of each animal. Like that's not the whole – animals eat other animals. I had a whole bit about that explaining it to a five-year-old with Down syndrome. But if you – the problem though is back then they didn't know what was going on in Australia. They didn't know what was going on in New Zealand. So if you had a local flood like and you did save a bunch of animals, like that's the story.

That's the story. That makes sense. Yeah.

So there probably was some guy who had a bunch of farm animals that he put on a boat and saved them and lived, and a bunch of the people died. But the question is, did this guy really get a message from God saying to build an ark? So look at this thing.

Holy shit.

Isn't that crazy?

Go ahead. I was reading in the wiki that when they did these first scans back in 1988.

I think it was saying the guy who helped him do the scans went into court and said that it's BS, that it's the ARC. Right, but that was in the 80s. Well, I mean, that's what I was trying to figure out what's different about these new scans they supposedly just did.

So let's click on that link. What does it say about the new Noah'sArcScans.com? That's the place I would go. Go there. Let's see what kind of virus you get. So this is some guy who's, like, really into Noah's ARC. Do you have to sign up? Click on that. That's that fella. Look, I found it. He's like, it's mine. So that's what the shape of it supposedly looked like in the Bible. And this is fucking team. Wait a minute. What does the sign say?

Yeah.

The sign say, the Noah's Ark. So they all think, so maybe there's a whole tourism thing attached to the, yeah, of course. Of course, Noah's Ark discovered new evidence from Durupinar site in Turkey. What is the new evidence? And the Ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. That's exactly where they said it was going to be. Even in the Koran, it says that.

But how can a guy, I mean, not that I would know, but how does the guy go, it's not that, though? You know what I mean? Like, how does he know? He doesn't know.

No, so that's what I was trying to get at. I was trying to read. And when they scanned, they scanned only for, like, iron or something like that. I think based off of what they scanned, I think he was probably saying, you can't say that is what that is based on.

Oh, then he's probably right. But that's in 1980. So it says in 2023, the 2019 GPR data was analyzed again. And American researchers uncovered corridors and room-like chambers running the full length of the formation, consistent with a large, intelligently designed vessel. The Turkish soil test in 2024 also showed that samples inside the structure contain nearly three times more organic material than those from outside, suggesting the remains of an ancient biological or man-made substances. Since 2019, a joint scientific team has applied GPR, ERT, LIDAR, and chemical analysis to determine whether the Drupinar formation is a natural geological fold or a buried, decayed wood ship preserved in the mountains of Ararat. It's kind of crazy that it matches it in terms of it has all these characteristics. Yeah. It has, like, what looked like some openings.

I mean, it's cool as shit to explore. I mean, even if they're like, this is not that, to find that an old ship like that is still cool.

And why is there a ship on the top of a mountain in Turkey? But this is why it's interesting.

But if it really was a boat. Did you see that? But I guess it's not recently discovered, but it's recently been cleared, another Incan ruin site that they found. Oh, they keep finding those, dude. But this one was, like, elaborate. Yeah. And I guess they had just recently, I think, recently cleared it enough so you can see how vast it is. Is it in Peru? It's in Peru, yeah.

They found a lot of them in Peru.

Yeah, this one, the guy, it was like a CNN report about it, and I was like, holy shit. Yeah. I had never heard of this place before.

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So this is where it's at. It's like in the middle of nowhere. Holy shit. Whoa.

That's where the Ark is?

That's where this... Fuck. ...in our site is.

Fuck. What does it look like from Google Earth? Can you zoom in on the site?

This is it.

Can you get closer and see the actual formation?

Well, that's where the center is.

i'm trying to find uh the spot where's the fucking boat bitch is that it right there like near it above it above that little indication red marker like to your right

right above is that it i don't think it says it's 170 feet long it shouldn't be that big in this picture i guess

do you think when you do the tour they tell you we think or they're like this is it there there

It's marked here. There it is. Oh, okay.

They tell you it's it, right?

Of course. Yeah.

When you look at the ground, though, it's like, is it? Hold on a second. Here's what's weird. Look at how much water erosion is on the ground. Yeah. Close back in again? When you close back in, look at, like, that all looks like rivers ran through that shit. It does. Yeah. That's, dude. Yeah. That's what's fucked about so many parts of Earth, but that also looks like that could have been just a bunch of sediment and shit.

It's tough to tell the elevation here.

Kind of crazy, though. But it does look like a ton of erosion happened. Yeah. Well, a ton of water erosion. Yeah. The floods were fucking real, man. There's too many different tales of floods in too many different religions. There's giant mountains to the north of it. Mm.

And there's a sea down here, but that's pretty far. Bro, I bet that whole thing washed.

Yeah. I guarantee.

If you look this far out, you can see that it washed over for sure.

Look at that. Oh, yeah. Look at the below, right above where it says Google Maps. That whole thing looks like it was washed out. That all looks like it was washed out a long time ago.

We've looked at this part before, too.

Yeah. Well, Randall Carlson, he's like a real expert in not just the mythology around the impacts of the Younger Dryas impact theory, but about like what possibly could have happened to the ice sheets and what created the Great Lakes and what kind of insane water you would be talking about, the volume of water and the power of that water. If all of the ice caps get hit with asteroids, like boom, boom, boom, like that's what they think. Somewhere around 11,800 years ago, we ran into a comet storm and they slammed into North America. And then you just get this insane wash of water that tears through the land and just fucking insane, impossible volume of water just carving its way through mountains, carving its way through the landscape. flattening everything in front of it and that's how the earth took the shape that it's in right now well that's the shape of north america yeah there's a lot of like evidence of that like when you he's got all these slides that he shows see if you can find some of his stuff

where he goes over it's pretty interesting how like we get saved countless times a year just by jupiter oh yeah just because comets are on their way here yeah jupiter's like our bodyguard Yeah, to destroy us.

Yeah. Yeah, and it just slams into that giant gas giant.

But we all think of that as like this sci-fi kind of fun, crazy movie thing. You're like, that's really real, though. Oh, yeah. Well, look at the moon.

The moon's covered in craters. Mm-hmm. I mean, we live in a shooting gallery, you know? So this is some of the stuff. Like, look at that. Tell me that doesn't look like water washed over that. The Columbia River. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. There's tons of these.

And, you know, he does a fantastic job of breaking it all down, but he thinks that these big canyons, even the Grand Canyon, was carved, like, relatively quickly. He thinks this idea that these things, that all this water erosion took place over millions of years, like, I bet it wasn't. He goes, I think it was very quickly. What's really quickly mean, though? I don't know. I mean, who knows? But you're talking about giant chunks of ice and rock from the sky that slam into the earth, change the climate completely, cause massive flooding, just huge amounts of water just rushing over the land. It just completely makes sense that that's what the stories are. There's so many stories of a flood. Epic of Gilgamesh. It's in the Koran. It's in the Bible. and like they all have stories of a great flood and then you know when they see you see things like the great lakes which great lakes are fucking huge man yeah those used to all be glaciers they

used to all be glacier i wonder how many of those comets it takes to like change the makeup of you know it depends on the size right yeah it could be just one one could do it if it was enormous

This planet has been hit so many times. They find new craters all the time. They found this big one that's off the coast of Australia. I don't remember when they found that one. But when they found that one, they're like, oh, look at this. And by the way, the Aborigines, the Aboriginals in Australia, they all have flood myths too. They all have stories. Of floods? Yeah. Mass of floods. They all have that. Everybody has, every ancient culture has stories of a great flood that happened a long time ago.

Guaranteed it had to happen. Yeah. I mean, and then there's nothing that says that we won't have another one, right?

Oh, these data centers are bringing it in. Cool. Oh, that's how deep the Great Lakes are. Yeah, compared to each other Fucking amen. Watch this though. The bottom of the Mariana Trench compared to that Way down there

Is that where James Cameron went? Yeah, did he go all the way down? Yeah, he was psycho That is psychotic. I met him the other day. Yeah. How was it? Cool guy. Cool, right? Very interesting guy. Really nice guy. Does a lot of martial arts. Does he really? Yeah. Trains a lot. Yeah, he made a record-breaking solo dive to Earth's lowest point, successfully piled on the submarine nearly 11 kilometers deep into the bottom of the Mariana Trench. What is that, six miles? What is 11 kilometers? How many miles is that? Yeah. Yeah, that is.

That's six miles. It's a little over. Dude, that's crazy.

Imagine being six miles underwater. What the fuck are you talking about?

You know he's such an expert in those submersibles, too? Because he's the one that, he's part of the design of these.

36,000 feet.

It's fucking crazy. 36,000 feet. Have you seen what they discover? By himself. When, like, the wild, like, the sea life down there? Weird shit. Things that we've never seen before? Weird shit. Yeah.

Weird shit.

Yeah, they look like aliens because they live in complete darkness. So there's species down there that no one even knew about.

Oh, yeah. Well, there's species that – I was watching this video that Forrest Gallant had. There's a bunch of species that have only been discovered like one or two times, one or two specimens. Like there's a specific whale that they only have like one specimen. And what is that fucking ghost? Translucent like – Jamie, I'm going to send you this because this is very weird. this very strange thing that i saw holy fuck i i wanted to send you this because i don't know if this is legit or not um but i've seen it before and it's this thing that they're they're detailing that's moving around on the bottom of the ocean and it seems to be carving a path on the bottom of the ocean

it's a team from google earth i don't know because you're usually not accurate it's not No, just the way that they tracked that from the satellites isn't the best thing. But I'll see what you said.

Well, the thing about this one, I don't know if it's true, but it looks like there's a path that it has on the ground in the bottom of the ocean.

Yeah, but how are they getting that information? That's why I'm asking you.

I have no idea. I got it for Billy Carson. So Billy Carson has been known to engage in some very bizarre.

It's a two-mile dome slowly crawling across the Pacific floor.

Okay. So what the fuck is that? Two-mile dome slowly crossing.

It's a two-mile dome? Uh-huh.

Two miles across, slowly crawling. It looks like it's leaving a trail.

Yeah.

So is that real?

We'll have to see what they're getting this information from. There you go. It's like, A, Google Earth doesn't take video. Stop being a party pooper. I'm just trying to find any. Sorry, I'm just trying to deduce things. Do you believe in that idea?

I never contemplated it. What? About extraterrestrial life, that they're not coming from space, that they're coming from the ocean.

Yeah, that's a big one.

That's a big one.

Tim Burchette, the congressman, I had him on, And he said that he's been told there's multiple sites where in the ocean, in the deep ocean, where these things keep emerging from. That's a cooler story to me now. Well, it makes sense that they would have a base here. And if you're going to have a base. Like if James Cameron can get to the bottom of the fucking ocean. Yeah. James Cameron. And didn't he do it in like 2012 or some shit? Yeah, I think that's when that said that was. It's a while ago. Yeah. So he did that 14 fucking years ago. Imagine what they could do. Oh, my God. Full base is down there. Full bases. Why wouldn't they have a base down there? Then we're not going to look. We're too stupid. We barely imagine. Is that James Cameron? I love aliens. Avatar's the shit. So cool, man. I always tell you what you got wrong. But other than that, islands can't float in the sky. But other than that, pretty cool. True Lies. That's a fucking great movie. Yeah, that guy made some bangers, man. He makes bangers. He makes some bangers. Yeah. You know, I mean, the Avatar movies alone, like the second one that was underwater, didn't that cost like a fucking billion dollars to make or something ridiculous he is so also

all by all accounts i've never met him but as a filmmaker everyone's like there is not a more supremely confident filmmaker which i think is like something you everybody loves and and you benefit from if you're in that production somebody who just knows their shit so well right that's like the i think that's the dream of any whether you're cast or crew to be with somebody who you're like oh this guy fucking knows exactly what he's doing you know he's a smart

smart motherfucker yeah I mean that's why he figured out how to get to the bottom of the ocean yeah fucking solo submarine that's it's insane it's insane yeah but I mean how many of those things even exist of those submersibles yeah I think they made that one yeah fuck because what does that

mean they made it mean nobody had been in it before him no I'm pretty sure he he helped design that when that one remember when that one imploded yeah the crazy one yeah he was like the one of the top people speaking about what they got he knew he knew exactly what

they got wrong yeah well apparently there was some whistleblowers in that company yeah i watched that doc it was incredible uh yeah the people that built it were like don't do this and when they

they would do the tests and the test would go wrong and he was like get the fuck out of here Like if you're going to be negative Don't be around me Yeah

That's really God there's so many crazy people out there So many legitimately crazy people That just want to be right no matter what

He couldn't accept being wrong

And they'll send people to their death in the ocean In the most horrific way possible You just get compressed instantaneously You just hear it start Yeah Imagine you're looking around Tony used to have a bit about that Really? He would, at the beginning of his set, he would take his microphone, and he would scratch it on the stool. And people were like, what are you doing? That's the last thing those people in that submarine heard. Oh, my God. So dark. That's the hatch and eye port. I think that's all James Cameron could see out of. Whoa.

That guy's big fucking mistake, too, isn't that he couldn't figure out how to design one that was capable. is that he couldn't design one that was light enough to do multiple trips and be towed out. In other words, the cost of hauling out the correct size and weight would have been too much for him to run this business where people could pay to do it. So he kept looking for lighter and lighter materials. Oh, my God. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. Because then you could haul it out, and it wouldn't be too much weight. and they're like no but you need to have like steel he's like no that weighs too much let's do carbon fiber you know yeah that's his own ego oh and he couldn't be wrong and he wanted to run his business why do we love carbon fiber so much i don't know every dude loves carbon fiber

i love it yeah i have a cadillac the escalade v yeah you know it has a carbon fiber dash yeah i love looking at him look at all that carbon it's cool it looks cool space yeah it's future I have a carbon fiber trim on things. Yeah, you have it. I had my GT3 RS, my 2007. I had all the interior pieces replaced with carbon fiber. Did you really? Yeah. Looks cool. Door latches, everything. It's lighter. It's lighter. It's lighter. Now it goes faster. By like, what, five pounds? for the whole car it's stupid but it's like there's something cool about the way it looks it looks cool especially in a submersible it looks really cool have you seen that company classic recreations that does a 67 mustang all in carbon fiber no bro it's fucking sick it's like half a million dollar car at least and it takes a long time to make but it's all one piece carbon fiber shell so it's super light and they'll make it with like a supercharged coyote engine so it's like 770 horsepower and it probably weighs under 3 000 pounds it looks fucking sick oh yeah it's got to be really fast well even if you had a steel one 67s are not that big it's not a big car that's like a 3 000 pound car like i think the 65s 66s and 67 68s were all like relatively similar sized um but the 67s like wider and then they got to like 69 and they got a little bit bigger but like 60 not 67 68s they got wider and then 69 they got a little bigger who makes it um a company called classic recreations huh i wonder let me see if you can find a video of it there's uh when you see the video of it with in carbon fiber with that gt500 that 67 gt500 shape it's fucking sick those a carbon fiber has to do really poorly in a wreck right oh terrible yeah yeah it's gotta fall apart yeah yeah it's like you're fucked and also good luck repairing it no shit so many bumps into you in the fucking supermarket parking lot yeah you have to get a whole new fender like they don't repair it it's not like oh don't worry you just need all new shit yeah because you can't like look at that that whole thing is all in carbon fiber and if you see when they get close to it and you look at it see if you could oh it's so rad but if you could see the actual images of like it's hard to tell right there oh that one's kind of painted but some of them are not paint that one's a go back to that one again though i want to see what that looks like that color is sick the green one i just had yeah that color is sick that's a beautiful green yeah right there look at that thing that's really cool oh my god i never wanted

a green mustang like that before until it looks like someone's about to place an order look how cool that thing looks i'm excited for you guys classic recreations i was here for the day joe

ordered his i never thought i would like it like that in green i never saw a 67 gd like right there look at that that looks amazing that's fucking cool but the the process of making that designing that is pretty insane yeah i'm sure i mean it's still probably a fairly heavy car but cv that's the different one that's the shelby they do that they do those um um shelby cobras they do that all in uh carbon fiber as well but there's i know there's videos because i was looking at the other day of ones where you see it it's all in carbon fiber there's a green one but I know they have uh see if you can find videos where they they close in on the actual carbon because some of them are just carbon fiber you get to see it here we go go video oh there you go so there you see

the carbon fiber like look at that that looks fucking cool yeah that's why you get it because

it looks fucking cool there's a thing about being a boy it's really girls don't give a fuck about carbon fiber hell no no way dude not most no why would they care about that but look how good that looks that looks fucking awesome jesus christ that's beautiful you got a text no i was looking

up these i went to this garage that i saw fucking i was trying to remember what i saw there because it was such a crazy collection dude here in town oh my god of what of cars what kind everything everything like some private owner private owner and most don't like 99 don't get driven which is a crazier part yeah you just have these sitting here well they're probably a good investment Yeah, this dude had a GT1, a CLK GTR Aperta, McLaren F1, multiple LaFerraris, SP1s, 250 GTO, like just a stupid fucking collection.

I love old Porsches. I do not love old Ferraris.

Really? Yeah.

The 60s ones, though? They look bunk to me.

Really? Yeah, I don't like them. Oh, I think they look beautiful.

Yeah.

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Yeah, they're gorgeous.

They look amazing. But when I see old Ferraris, I'm like, that looks like it's going to break.

I mean, they probably...

That's going to leave you somewhere. Yeah. And it's also precious. Nobody does anything with them.

They become, honestly, they're too valuable. Yeah. When you go, how much was this? Oh, it's $25 million this thing's sold for at auction. You're like, okay.

People take, like, old Porsches and they mod them. Yeah. And they make them outlaws, you know, like that Magnus Walker guy. Yeah, he makes awesome ones. I love that. That's what I love. I love when they customize them and they put cool paint on them.

Well, I like looking at the old Ferrari. I feel like they do look like works of art. They look beautiful. But I feel like the Porsche would be the one you'd want to drive.

Yeah, I don't even like looking at them.

Really?

Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. It's like, you know how you have tastes? Like people think I like old cars. They'll try to show me something from the 50s. I'm like, get that thing away from me. It's not your era. Yeah. That's pretty cool looking. That's pretty fucking beautiful, man. 1960? Yeah. Actually, take it back. That's pretty dope. That's pretty good. That one's pretty dope, too. That one upper left, that's pretty dope.

But I do wonder how they drive. I changed my opinion. I wonder how they drive. I really do.

I probably like dog shit. Compared to your little Cayman?

Yeah.

I mean, that thing's insane. It's so fun. That's a mid-engine car that's got modern suspension, modern brakes, modern technology, and what, like 650 horsepower? It's got some crazy, it's got tuned up. Bonkers. And it sounds insane. When you drove by my house with that thing, I got a boner. I remember you walked inside, and then you walked outside, and you were like. Yeah. I wanted to watch you drive off. Yeah. I wanted to hear. I think still, it's so fun. It's so fun. See, that's what I like. I like stuff that you drive. I was telling you that's why I like my Super Snake. Because it's not, it's a great American muscle car, like a modern muscle car. It's not the fastest car. It doesn't handle the best, but it's the most exciting. It's like the most fun to drive.

Yeah, I was just talking about this, about when you get into cars. So when you start off and you drive a Honda Accord and somebody goes, you should drive a Mustang. You get in a Mustang, you're like, faster, right? You go, it's faster. So faster equates with better, more fun and better. And then you get, let's say, to a 9-11, you're like, faster, more fun, better. And in your mind, there's this formula of like, well, as long as it's faster, it's going to be better. And then it crosses over to this other plane where you go, oh, it's faster, but all the fun is not there anymore. Right. And you have to find a place where you go, like, fast doesn't equal fun necessarily. There's a fun that's a mixture of things. Exactly. That there is a fast aspect, but there can be too fast.

It's a feeling that you get from fun cars. Yes. Like one of my favorite cars that I ever had that I kind of miss, I had a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible. You ever see that?

I drove to the comic store a bunch of times. I did see that.

I loved that car.

Yeah, because you drove it once. I want to say this is fucking amazing. The Canyon Club one time, I remember. Yeah, yeah.

I loved it because it was the only car that I ever bought that was like that that was a convertible and it felt a little sketchy like a little wobbly because it was a convertible but the feeling that you get it wasn't the most horsepower I think back then they had like 500 or

550 or something like that which is a lot yeah but today it's not today it's not but it had a supercharger and it would whine when you get on it and it was a solid rear axle so it would kick out all the time it was like handle like dog shit yeah it wasn't the best but it was fun like you around a corner and fucking stomp on the gas it was fun but it was the torque and the sound and because it was a convertible you hear the sound right there there's nothing there that's like One of my most enjoyable cars I ever owned. I loved it. I missed it. When I got rid of it, I was like, I should have kept that fucker. Yeah.

The fun, like that piece of it, I think if you have a bunch of cars, you want stuff that's comfortable. Because sometimes you're like, shit, I need to be in some type of comfort for this one thing I'm doing. Yes. And then the rest of the time you just want to have fun.

Yeah. Jamie, show me a picture of a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible black. That's what you had? Yeah, I missed it. It wasn't the best looking car either It was good looking It was cool looking But it was just the driving fun It was like one of the first frivolous cars that I bought

When I had some money I tell you I miss I think it was a 981 GTS That's not it

Yeah it is That's it That's it That's exactly it That's exactly the car That's exactly what I had I didn't have a roll bar though Fuck I loved it Yeah Maybe it had a roll bar I don't think so though Nah, I think it was like that.

Can you look up, if I got this right, 981 GTS?

God, I miss that car.

Yeah, blue.

I really miss that fucking Shelby.

In blue? Yeah. I had that, and I sent it to BBI. They did tuning on it. I had never been sad about selling something until after I sold that. That shit was so much fun to drive.

Get yourself another one, Tommy boy.

I know.

Go back to that Shelby. I might have to get one of them.

We're looking at like old girlfriends right now. I know.

I know. Miss her. Really fun ones. Yeah. Who swallowed. That thing was so fun, man. Oh, yeah. I love driving it. Great tits. And again, look at that one. That one looks good with the red stripe. And again, it wasn't like nobody was, you know, nobody's like, whoa, you're a baller. It wasn't like that at all. It was just fun for me. Yeah. That's what it's about, man. Yeah, and again, not the fastest car. Pretty fast for the time, but, you know, like Porsche's handle. Like, before that, I had had a 911 Turbo. It's way faster. Handles way better.

I remember taking that, getting chased by a Mustang of Benedict Canyon and just losing his ass. Oh, yeah. That was the fun.

Oh, those things handle so well. That's a 3,000-pound car, too, right? Yeah, yeah. Like, probably. Something like that. Like my Shelby Super Snake, that's probably, like, close to 4,000 pounds. Cars today are very heavy.

They're very heavy. I looked up the Escalade IQ, the all-electric. That's 9,000 pounds. I know. It's crazy. That's so crazy. It's massive. Ooh, there's one for sale. How much is it?

45 grand? How many miles on it? 16,000 miles? edit this out I'm gonna have to buy that look at that fucking thing bookmark it yeah dude I'm in love that's it see it's like kind of cheap inside and everything it doesn't matter it's the fun of it how many horsepower does those things have 5.4 liter supercharged V8 let's find out how many horsepower that thing has 550 50, yeah, that sounds about right.

That's your girl, man.

Loved it. That's her. I loved it. It was like it wasn't precious. I didn't mind parking it places, and if it had a dent on it, it'd probably look cooler. Yeah, yeah. It didn't matter. It was just the being in it and just, and the wind in your hair. I didn't have any hair.

But the fucking wind in your face, the sound. I will say I think there's no better top-down city than L.A. Oh, yeah. I love a convertible in L.A. It's like the greatest.

You have like three weeks to do it here before your head burns. Yeah. Especially us. Oh, fuck. Your head's shaved unless you're wearing a hat. Got to. But there it's like perfect. Oh, yeah. Well, I would love it at night, driving down Sunset. I loved it. I loved coming over Laurel. I'd have like a music playlist that I'd listen to, like my perfect going to the comedy store playlist. Yeah. And then another one on the way out is the best. Yeah. But there's something about, like, it was also like, wow, I'm really in Hollywood. I'm really going to do a show at the comedy store in Hollywood. And this is. This is my job. Like, this is crazy. It's fucking awesome. Yeah. It's so cool. Yeah. To be one of those sperm that made it through and cracked the egg. I went there like a week ago. It was super fun. I heard it was awesome during the Netflix festival. It was awesome. Was that when you were there? Yes. It was so fun. Everybody said it was like the comedy store of old. It was great. Yeah, Peter Shore texted me, sent me some pictures. He's like, dude, you should be here. It's amazing. It was fucking bumping, man. That's nice. Yeah. That's nice. It was really fun.

I've been going to your club, too. I'm working on a new hour, so it's been really fun to get reps.

How long have you been doing sets now? Not long. Because last time I talked to you.

So like a month. Yeah? Yeah.

Do you want to do a set Tuesday or Wednesday?

I leave. I go back to L.A. I got this thing I have to go fly out for to announce. Oh, what are you doing? Can't you tell anybody? I don't think I can yet. Not yet? Oh, tell me. I'll tell you. Okay, tell me. I'll tell you. I won't tell anybody. No one will hear. But when I come back, I'd love to. Are you going to do a season three? I don't know. That'll be up to them, I guess.

See how it does?

Yeah, see how it does. Oh. It's so fucking fun to do.

It's such a good show, dude. It's such a perfect show for you because it's like, it's so obvious that it's your imagination because no one would think of these fucking things. Yeah. The one, I don't want to give it away. Oh, you can, you can. The one where it's the girl that you knew for a long time and then. Oh, yeah. Floriana. And then you want to let her in the car? Yeah. That felt like real life, you know? Yeah, that felt like real life. I was saying to myself, why doesn't he just open the door and get out? Yeah, I know.

Well, it was more fun to see horrible things happen to her. And it fucking, I would say this, because it's not a credit to me, but I always wanted to emphasize how I wanted it to look. And my DP, Nico Wiesnett, is brilliant. So everything looks like a fucking movie, you know? Yeah. Like the Slave one looks like an Oscar-winning film. It really does. Yeah, yeah.

It's so ridiculous.

It's so crazy.

I don't want to give that away either, but it's so ridiculous.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's really crazy. It's so fun. Yeah, they just let us have fun. It's such a different experience than what I'm used to and what you're used to with stand-up, which is such a solo endeavor. But to have a team, you know, from the writer's room to actually getting into production of, like, everybody collaborating, it's such a fun thing.

It's also so irreverent. I don't think you could do it anywhere but Netflix. I don't think anybody would allow you to.

I don't think so either. They really are, you know, for all the shit that people justifiably talk about, like, studios and execs and stuff. For this show, I've never had an experience like it where they're just like, go for it.

No, they let you just do whatever you want.

Yeah.

Look, they're the best at that. Yeah. I mean, think about the amount. I mean, they get a lot of criticism about some of the content. Sure. But it's really the idea is they'll let anything in there. They let anything. That's good.

Yeah.

Like, you're not going to agree with all of it. Some of it, you're going to think it's far left content or some of it. But the thing is, they're not ideologically captured. like it's not like they only allow like woke content not at all they'll let you go ham not

at all yeah they let you push it and i don't think anybody else would do it i don't think so either i don't think so either they were the first people i showed it to and thankfully they said yes but i think it would yeah i think it would have been shut down after that yeah there's

no chance like just the first first scene in the first episode where you're you take the pill Kevin Nealon one just that there's not a fucking chance in hell

the things that you're doing there's no we have one you haven't seen later in with Jesus that I don't think would fly other places with Johnny Pemberton he's amazing great cast great people came in Kirk Fox did one, Frankie Quinones did one Odette Annabelle did one I'm leaving people out Martha Kelly great cast and they all signed up for We had people, by the way, we had a couple, one time the casting director sat me down and was like, hey, just so you know, I sent out submissions for this one you did. And all the agents who called me today said I would never put an actor in a position to do something like this. And then one actor called one of the people on our staff and was like, you can't make this one. They're like, this is wrong. this is this is an actor an actor this is dangerous to put out in the world and we were like what like that she was that offended by it but she wasn't in it no but she had been offered a part so she was like i read what you offered me i'm so offended

Like, okay, yeah. Like, she really was like, I'm going to call people, and, like, I hope you guys don't make this. Isn't it amazing that she's an activist? Yeah, over the, this, clearly wasn't also understanding, like, the tone.

Was it the girl from Snow White?

No, but I heard she's a handful.

Seems like it.

Yeah.

Seems like she cost that movie a lot of money.

Oh, my God. I know. Allegedly. Allegedly, yeah. And what that does to the rest of her career.

Oh, she's fucked. Yeah. Yeah, she's especially in this, because that was like at the tipping point of woke being like, we had woke fatigue.

And then she didn't, wasn't the whole thing that she didn't want to promote? Which is like, that's the whole, that's half the gig, man. Promoting your thing is half the gig.

Well, the problem is when she would talk, she would say things that were so unappealing. Like, you're trying to sell a movie, people want to like you. You're Snow White. You can't be, like, chastising people or whatever you're doing, scolding people. Yeah, lecturing them. Yeah, like, you're a kid. Yeah. Don't do that. Be like, thanks for the gig where I got to play pretend. Thank you is amazing. Let's play Snow White. But the whole thing was doomed anyway when they weren't going to use dwarves, right? They called them magical creatures instead of dwarves. Isn't that the whole thing? The literal title of the story is Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Yeah. The dwarves all have names. So they all had to. That's the story. If you don't want to make a story on the seven dwarves, you're going to have to make a new story. Is dwarf offensive, though? Yes. It is? To some. Some like little people. They don't like midget. They don't like dwarf. Well, midget I knew. But I thought dwarf was like the polite way to say it. Not anymore.

Okay.

The goalposts keep it moving. Keep it going. If you went into a coma and you woke up like three years later, you'd be so lost. You would be lost. That's what you kind of can't say. Yeah.

It's like old people talk and you're like, whoa. Yeah.

Colored, they say colored. You're like, yo, it's people of color.

Yeah. Well, they would say that.

Yeah.

Back in the 40s or whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Which is odd that colored is offensive, but people of color is not offensive. Yeah. Like, if you tried to explain that to someone logically, they'd be like, what? Like, if it was another language, like, oh, you can't say it like that. You have to say it like this. He'd be like, what? Why? It's the same thing. I'm saying the same thing. I know. People of color. Okay. What do I say again? People of color. Okay. Of color. Got it.

Then in South Africa, that is a term, you know? What do you mean? In South Africa, there's black, white, and colored. Oh. Those are the three. What's colored? Anyone who's not black or white. So like-

Like Chinese people?

No, like if you're mixed or if you're Indian, you know, like- Oh, wow. Then you're colored. Oh. Yeah. How weird, man. So that's like the three boy broad terms. But I remember I was in Canada once, and I said, oh, my God. I don't remember if I said, like, native. And they were like, yo. And I was like, I can't say native. And they were like, that's kind of offensive. We don't say that.

First peoples.

Yeah. And that was the first time I had heard that something that I thought I was saying, like, with respect, was disrespectful. I was like, really, native? They're like, yeah, hey, easy. stop fucking saying it I'm like that's crazy okay I was in Vancouver well Vancouver super woke yeah yeah super woke

didn't used to be was it not nah it was like weed it was like a big weed place it was a fun place I had always loved going to Vancouver Vancouver used to be the shit I mean I haven't been in a long time the last time I was supposed to go I had a big 420 show that was supposed to be there in 2020 like right right after the pandemic we were doing an arena up there and we had to shut it down And then we rescheduled it, and they had to shut it down again. And then things just got real weird up there, and I'm like, I'm not going back.

Really? Yeah, I'm not going back. You haven't been there in Canada since? No. And I've talked a lot of shit about Canada. Yeah, you have talked a lot of shit. A lot of shit. You talked a lot of shit about Trudeau. Yeah, a lot of shit.

He's out of power now. Yeah, justifiably, though. It's like what they did up there, they're doing some wild things, And they just completely wrecked that country in terms of – they're moving closer and closer to communism in this really weird way. And I know people want to push back against that. But you have to understand that like they don't have – first of all, they don't have freedom of speech. They have hate speech laws. So they can move the goal. But this was Jordan Peterson's argument about this when they were trying to impose certain pronouns that he was supposed to use and certain things that he was supposed to say. And it's like you can't force me to say things. Like, this is forced speech, and the problem is they'll call things hate speech, and then if you use force, they'll force you to use that under the threat of law. And it's like, okay, well, where does this go? You're going to arrest people?

for not going along with 78 different pronouns or whatever the fuck they are? Are you going to kick them out of their job? Do you understand that this is kind of crazy? Yeah. And then this weird thing they're doing with MAID, where they're doing assisted suicide. You know about all this? Mm-mm. Okay. One in 20 people in Canada... Make sure this is true. One in 20 people in Canada dies from assisted suicide. One in 20? One in 20. There's an actual business now that's involved in assisted suicide. Is that government sanctioned? Government sanctioned, yeah. It's a program.

Damn.

Yeah. And they killed a guy who had seasonal depression. Look at this. 5.1% of all deaths in the country. Holy fuck. Yeah. Medically assisted dying. That's what it's called. That's made. Officially known as medical assistance in dying. Between 2016 and the end of 2024, there were 76,475 recorded May deaths.

Damn.

You can just sign up and just be like, I want this.

I don't like this. 2024 alone, there were 16,499 May provisions. 5% of all deaths, 5.1% of all deaths in the country. How nuts is that? That's nuts. Find the one guy that they killed that had seasonal depression. And the family was like, what the fuck?

He just walks into a place? You can just sign up. You sign up for it. I don't want to live anymore. Holy shit.

I'm depressed. I'm depressed. There you go. Canadian man, 26, with seasonal depression, euthanized despite no terminal illness. Look at that guy.

Oh, that was reasonable.

He just needs friends.

Yeah.

Guy needs a hug. 26-year-old Canadian man who had seasonal depression has been euthanized by a notorious doctor who is personally responsible for ending the lives of over 400 of her patients. Oh, my God.

What a psycho. This fucking Uday is back. Jesus Christ. That's so crazy.

Okay, so he had other issues. So Keanu Vafian, I don't know how to say his last name, also had partial vision loss and lived with type 1 diabetes. He faced mental health struggles, which often became worse in the winter. as a result of a car accident when he was 17. After losing vision in one of his eyes in 2022, he became obsessed with ending his life by assisted dying.

That's really fucking sad, man.

God damn. Yeah, you're just not happy. Instead of people saying, let's figure out a way to make you happy. Yeah. You know. We're going to put you down. We're going to just put you down. And then there's money in it, which is weird. It's weird where there's money gets exchanged. People make a living doing it. People, the government pays for it. There's profit involved in killing people. In killing people. Yeah. They're killing old people that just don't want to do it anymore. I'm having a hard time, matey. Oh, step into the chamber. Fuck. I don't know what they do to them.

I wonder if family knew beforehand or they just get a notification, hey, we put them down.

Right. If you're a grown adult, I wonder if the family even gets informed if you don't want them to be. what is the way they do it is a lethal injection what if you're like i want to be beheaded

i want to go guillotine style i want to have my tongue ripped out by pliers oh i read this

crazy story about this guy who set up a guillotine over his bed um and he had a timed it for when he was asleep so he timed it for 3 a.m. and so he went to sleep and then his father heard this loud bang in the middle of the night and thought that maybe he fell down or something fell over and the son had literally rigged a guillotine with a timer in his house and at 3 a.m. it hit the switch and this giant fucking blade lops off his head a really cool thing to do to your parents man bro you must have hated his dad fuck hey hey fuckhead all that shitty things you said to me and all the that's real up way you raised me yeah see if you find that story holy who knows what's real but i think it's real guillotine death was suicide um builder boyd taylor spent several weeks constructing the complex device at the home he shared with his father in the village of millburn near more path where is that is that england bro several weeks this is super methodical oh yeah the general hospital recorded a verdict of suicide on thursday the hearing uh was told that the complicated mechanism was primed to switch itself on at 330 gmt and cause a blade to fall on mr taylor's neck I don't know.

In a written statement read out by Southeast North Humberland coroner Eric Armstrong, Robert Taylor said he knew his son had been working on something in his bedroom for several weeks. Jesus Christ. He was woken by a rumbling noise, which he thought was the chimney had fallen off the roof. Oh, my God. That's his head. Father and son worked together in the family building company. But Boyd Taylor has been off over Christmas saying he wanted to stay at home. Fuck.

I respect the, like, the message so much. Yeah. Like, the fuck you of it all to his dad.

This is my favorite part. He said Mr. Taylor's death was not a spur-of-the-moment decision. No shit. Duh. Yeah. Fucking crazy, man. That's the crazy thing about people that want to kill themselves. Oftentimes, they don't tell anybody. Yeah. And no one knows until it happens. Oh, yeah. And they're like, imagine if you're his dad, and you're like, I should have fucking checked his bedroom. Yeah. Maybe I could have hugged him. I heard him hammering. Maybe I could have gotten him some MDMA. Maybe I could have done something to snap him out of it. I thought he was just making a cool cabinet.

Yeah. And wanted to respect his privacy. But maybe his dad doesn't think like that, you know.

Maybe his dad's like, that faggot, he's out there sucking cocks and he gets sad. Fuck him.

I don't know. Yeah, I mean. I don't know why I had that accent in the wrong country. But, I mean, to want to do that and have your dad find it. Bro, that's dark. that's really dark yeah you don't like your dad for sure no or you don't care you don't give a

fuck about anybody you still working on that thing yeah okay yeah it's a cabinet leave me the fuck alone dad oh sorry sorry sorry son did you feel like fishing maybe sometime no maybe maybe not now maybe in the spring yeah maybe after 3 30 a.m tomorrow what it's a weird time yeah Fuck, man. I mean, yeah, it's set, timed, and rigged. Also, he wanted to impress people. Like, wow, respect. Respect. Like, this guy fucking playing.

His level of dedication to this plan is pretty incredible.

I mean, he set it above his fucking neck while he was sleeping. How do you fall asleep? Yeah, right there. Okay, good night.

Ding.

K-chunk.

And he had, like, a test run, for sure.

Oh, for sure. 100%. And the night, oh, the inquest at Mass Beth General Hospital, Ashington, was told yesterday that the younger man had weighted the blade with a paving slab wired to plywood wedged into a wooden block at the foot of his bed. An electric jigsaw was plugged into a timer switch. The saw cut the wood, releasing the wire holding the blade. Wow.

He took 12 sleeping pills, bro.

Wow. That might have killed him anyway, right? Yeah, maybe. Took 12 sleeping pills before laying under the guillotine, knowing that the sedatives were so strong that his position in the bed would not alter as he slept. Wow. Fuck. His father heard the jigsaw in action and thought the chimney had collapsed, but returned to the bed when all felt quiet. Felt quiet. The mechanism cut power to the electric tool after it had completed its tasks. Wow. He had it set to shut off after it completed its task. This guy is thorough.

But, like, also his knowledge of being able to put that together, like, that's some engineering skill.

Look at this. It says his son had never fully recovered from his parents' separation when he was 15. He had attempted suicide as a teenager. He's 36 now. He's 21 years later.

Meanwhile, like, I think dad was a dick, dude. Maybe.

Yeah. Possibly. Yeah. This also says there are partners in a small building firm he ran with his father. Yeah, we said that earlier, I think. Yeah, so he was working on a carpentry project. Jeez. So he was also at the father's house, correct? Yeah. So he left work to go back, I don't know. It seems like they were separated, but they definitely weren't. I thought they were living together.

Dude, it said it's an eight-foot-high, three-foot-wide structure that he put in his room.

Yeah, has Dad not noticed that? He's in a cottage, so that means it's small, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's just not paying attention. Yeah, exactly.

An inner door to his bedroom. An inner door? Before putting together the eight-foot-high, three-foot-wide structure, housing a guillotine blade and devices to trigger its dissent. Man. Probably one of the wildest ways to go. I've never heard anything like this. That guy doesn't need the Canadian government. No. He's like, I got this. I got this. I got this.

I mean, there's some creative ways to do it, but that's probably the... They do... And to find that to leave the discovery is also, you know, yeah.

And also just leave a mess. You got to clean that up. Is that what it is? Is that the thing?

Is that what it looks like? I mean, there's an article about it, and the picture is.

It's right below the paragraph. That's it? Talking about it. Why isn't it all covered in blood? No, that's probably... I don't know. That's probably... That might not be it. It might just be a guillotine. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my God, dude. I was trying to find pictures. He knew he was building something.

And he made sure it was real high, so that fucker had some good momentum. Yeah. Shaboom! Woo! A paving stone. Oh, my God, dude. Bro. What a fucking psycho. 12 sleeping pills? I don't get in the same way. So you find your spot. Yeah. Imagine the last thoughts in his mind, like, see you in Valhalla. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck you, dad. I know there's certain states where you can go and whack yourself in America. Oregon's one of them. Because Michael Lair, you remember him from Kill Tony? He had ALS? Yes. Yes. He ended his life up there. Yeah. I mean. He was at the door. That level of suffering, though. Yeah. he actually went up there once and chickened out or didn't chicken out changed his mind I should say wouldn't say chicken that's a terrible way to say it

yeah

went up there changed his mind came back and did a couple more episodes of Kill Tony and then went and then went up and did it I met him a couple times funny dude man very funny very funny dude real bummer yeah you know it's like I get that I get when you're at that stage but seasonal depression

that's not yeah settle down there's that thing in Alaska if you get seasonal depression and you kill someone it's a lesser charge really? yeah because it's so prevalent there god damn

be nice to people in the winter yeah it was dark all day did you ever see that movie 30 Days of Night? no

it's a vampire movie about Alaska I saw the one with Pacino and Robin Williams that also is like an insomnia thing in Alaska I don't know what that one is, no. Is it called that? It's called Insomnia, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you feel it watching that movie. The performances and the way it's shot pull it out of you. You're like, fuck.

You ever see that one where Robin Williams played the psycho guy that develops pictures? Yes. 24-hour photo, I think it's called. Was that Bobcat? Did he make that? He did a few with Robin Williams, I think. I don't know if he made that. He might have. But that one was nuts. Robin Williams was so fucking good. So talented, man. So talented. That he could be that funny and also that creepy. Yeah. That he could really play a real fucking psycho really well. One hour photo. One hour photo. That's it.

Who made that one?

Nah, Robert. Oh, Mark Romanek.

Romanek, sorry.

Yeah, that was fucking super creepy. Super creepy. Yeah. This 30 Days of Night is a fun vampire movie. Is it? Because they show up in Alaska during the time it's the winter where it's night for 30 days in like northern alaska yeah and they don't ever have to go to sleep in the day and they just fuck

everybody up for like 30 days that's pretty cool yeah fun i did alaska went in the opposite in the summer when it was sun never that's weird that's weird too yeah ari and i did that once we did

some shows and we went uh salmon fishing and it was like bright out at 2 a.m yeah weird it's weird

man we got back to the hotel and like the sun's out it's like midnight i know you don't know what

to do yeah your body's so confused it's it's a very confusing feeling uh how do people sleep

up there with masks they just put the yeah everyone has like blackout windows and everything yeah yeah because i remember you're like wait it's not that late right you're like no it's it's midnight right now i wonder if crime goes down in the summer months yeah i wonder you know

has to you would imagine because i think people do more crime like oh it's dark out yeah go do

crime and crime is also isn't crime usually spike in places when it's like heat waves

probably yeah they get hot and angry yeah you get more domestics for sure yeah well that's why you brought the seasonal depression thing when it's night out all the time yeah that's why people whack each other yeah make sense so fucking depressed yeah oh you know vitamin d especially if you're not a vitamin person you're not supplementing oh yeah you have no vitamin d None. Yeah, that's what's fucked about, like, flu season. People are like, oh, flu season. Flu's coming around. Well, why do you think that is? It's because no one's outside because no one has any vitamin D. So everybody gets the flu. Is that why? 100%. Yeah. That's why. Why else would flu have a season? You can get flu in the summer. You can get flu anywhere. Why are so many people getting it and spreading it? But your immune system's stronger. Immune system's destroyed. My doctor told me that. My doctor explained to me that when he was an internist in New York City, that he would test people in the middle of the winter, and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D in their system. Really? It's crazy. people just never go outside and they just they're indoors all the time and they don't take any vitamins so their system just breaks down yeah they're eating fucking sloppy joes and french fries and you wonder why they're like i can't believe i got sick yeah i can't believe you're alive yeah yeah well that's what's fucked up about sunlight is that like sunlight is actually a necessary part of being a human being like you actually need it for vitamin d i have such a

notable i mean like dramatic difference in how much i got sick when i was fatter oh yeah versus like of course dramatic of course i was getting sick like like real sick like seven times a year

really yeah wow yeah you've made like one of the most dramatic transformations of anybody that i know other than jelly roll jelly oh my god jelly rolls is nuts yeah i just saw him he went he came to the 5k he's down 300 pounds i know he was just the club he's he's practicing stand-up yeah i

heard dude he killed really i mean well yeah he's got good jokes let's get some funny stories he's a funny guy and he's like he's comfortable and with an audience exactly yeah and just super likable yeah but it's like and vulnerable he's a vulnerable guy too yeah and his transformation

is even more crazy because he was at death's door he was like he couldn't even walk up a flight of

stairs yeah it's amazing what he's done it really is amazing incredible inspires a bunch of people

too which is which is awesome and he's not done no like he's still full steam ahead like he's changed his whole lifestyle it's like a full shift and now it's all just about getting that skin cut off yeah i'm like oh that one hurts just thinking about it i know but i imagine how great

he's gonna feel after that it's gonna feel so good oh yeah when it all heals up you know doing

like he's got to get like a hyperbaric chamber you know definitely take peptides and you know it's just scary cuz like skin gets infected you know infections are fucking terrifying that's like the Uday Hussain thing with horrible motherfucker yeah dragging people through gravel and then dunking them in

sewers what a piece of shit that guy was and he also had to have the thought of like how can I make this worse right you know it's like these people infected Well, you could put them in a bowl of shit, and he's like, let's do that.

Let's scratch them up a lot first.

Yeah.

Let's drag them through gravel. So there's wounds. Yeah, all over their body, and then dunk them in a sewer. You got it, boss. Infections are fucking scary, man. I know a lot of people that get skin infections because of jiu-jitsu. Oh, yeah, that's a big thing. Huge, huge thing. Mikey Musumichi just defended his UFC Brazilian jiu-jitsu side. Why can't I say that? UFC BJJ title and got hospitalized right afterwards with staff didn't um you know Kyle

Bush the driver he just died and he died of sepsis but that's like yeah type of infection

as well yeah how did he get that I believe I already had pneumonia and then didn't treat it and kept you know racing and damn it got worse that's nuts 41 man that's nuts it's fucking nuts

crazy yeah sepsis is crazy one of my wife's friends from high school died of sepsis a few

years back my dad got sepsis in the hospital yeah like he had a he had a bone marrow transplant

and then got sepsis almost died yeah oh hospital infections are creepy man because like joey diaz you know he got his knee fixed and he said that what does it say here timeline bush had been battling what he was originally believed to be a sinus cold for a couple weeks, even radioing his crew to have a doctor meet him after a race at Watkins Glen. Despite continuing to race and win less than a week before his death, his condition rapidly deteriorated. He collapsed and became unresponsive in a Chevrolet racing simulator in Concord, North Carolina. 9-11 caller noted that he was coughing up blood and had shortness of breath. He was transported to a Charlotte area hospital where he died.

That is insane. Fuck, man. That is so crazy, man.

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Like, I think Strickland can win this fight because Strickland is, like, insanely durable. He's scary because he doesn't go away. He's not going to get tired. He doesn't go away. He's tough as shit. He was abused when he was young, so he's angry. Like, he's dangerous, and he's super skillful, very hard to hit. And he fought and won with a blown-out shoulder. Yeah, he's crazy. He fucked his shoulder up, like, the week of the fight. Like, did something bad. He's coming and getting some stem cells that weighs too well.

Really?

Yeah, he fucked it up, and he doesn't even know what it was, but he couldn't use it right. I could tell when he was warming up before the fight started, he was doing this with his arm just doing this like he was warming up doing this and he kept doing this and that's what you do when your arm hurts like if you hurt your shoulder you're like how bad does it hurt let me check let me check real quick and that's how he went into a fight went into a world title fight against the scariest guy in the division and beat him fuck with one arm

I saw him that was like the day before two days before something he was like doing construction on his driveway yeah bro

Rides a motorcycle everywhere world champion. Yeah. Yeah, he just was went to that Misfits no, what is it called? Aiden Ross's thing that he does he does something called What does it call it brand something up brand risk has people fight Ray J the guy who did the yeah With Kim Kardashian he's got knocked the fuck out. I saw a fight. Do you see the post interview?

Yeah, he was like what the fuck man. I thought we had a deal. Yeah, like that was weird. They

They made some sort of a deal, apparently. At least he was implying that the guy wasn't going to punch him in the face and knock him out.

Well, the weird thing is, I feel like if you watch that again, the punch, none of it's like, you're not watching pros, obviously. None of it seems like, it just seems kind of wild. And as he sees him stunned, he doesn't do what most people do when you stun somebody, which is follow up. He's kind of like, oh, shit. Kind of the body language lends itself to that theory. Like, he just was like, uh, uh.

And he's laughing, but he's also celebrating. He's like, ah, fuck it. I knocked him out. Look how out of shape Ray J is, too. That's a crazy thing to be accepting a fight when you're down out of shape. Super Hot Fire. That's his name, Super Hot Fire.

But see, he's just like.

Well, both guys look like they didn't know what they're doing. But he hit him with one shot, and that was all it took. That's crazy. crazy so they he must they must have made some sort of a deal they weren't going to hurt each other and they were going to do it for money i wonder how much he paid him that's so weird someone asked during the uh press conference they had which i thought was true ray j said

like a month or two ago he was dying of some

heart disease or something really bad. And they're like, you're fighting? He's like, yeah, I'm going in here to die. You saw the Cam Newton thing, right? Cam Newton? Yeah. With Ray J? No. Oh, that's the best clip of the year on the internet. What is it? When Cam's like, are you gay? You haven't seen that? No. Oh, it's the best. On Cam's podcast? Yes, it's the best. No. What are you doing? You got, you got, I can't do it justice. Okay, okay, okay. It's the best thing I've ever seen. And part of what's so great is that you know this. I know this from conducting interviews. there's a certain point in an interview that you're having with someone where if they start saying something, the best thing you can do is shut the fuck up. You know? Right. It's like you can just go. Give him some air. And Cam just goes. Like where does Cam? Cam is 80% of the comedy, but it is the best. The full clip is just incredible. Is that the whole thing? I hope so. It's at least over a minute. Oh.

You asked me that last time. So I listen to, like, Biggie Smalls. You like Biggie? Are you a fan of Biggie? Can you just answer my questions?

He just said, are you gay? I'm giving you an analogy to it. There's something to it. Can you answer yes or no and then go into that?

Shout out to the gay agency. Yes. What does it matter if I'm gay or not? It doesn't matter. I'm just asking a question. There's people like people. When they leave here, we're all together. When you leave and it's done, and it's a wrap for the day, everybody's going to do something. Everybody's going to go to their prospective places. Some people are going to go home. And I hate to say this, but it's just going to be grimy. But I'm sure there's people that go home. They got a dog, their favorite dog. They stop by the store, grab some peanut butter.

Lee Ray, how old are you? I'm 45. You're 45 years old. In 45 years of living, have you ever been with a man?

This is not the full version. Yeah, it cuts off. You cut off the best part. Sorry. That's all right, man. Try to find the full version. It's so fantastic. Well, it's a three-hour podcast. I know. Maybe the 412 one, is it? Or maybe this. What is this? How long is this one?

Let me see.

This is, this might be talking about having sex with women though. Said he's had sex with 11,500 women. It was a, it was a massive parade. You're talking about different partners.

What? Yeah. So we did a celebration, booby trap. I would scroll, try to get to where we were.

This could go for how many times you've had sex.

No, no, no. A little more. 10,000 different people. I want to be at nine, 9,000 and I was I can only fuck a thousand more bitches I can't do anymore

The average of The volume Of different sex partners Some of my homegirls But I don't think What's your body count? No, this isn't it

This is just a body count thing

If you go back To your search 412 there That might be it, see that one this might be it yeah some people go home and put peanut butter on themselves

it's so much better okay just pass it pass where we were so people like people

yeah this is it scoot ahead a little bit when they leave here we're all together

it's like he's trying to grab some peanut butter

watch this right go home excited to see their dog they put a bunch of peanut butter on their feet that the dog can lick it off. Some people even go further to watch TV on all fours, slap a little peanut butter in the crack, and enjoy their soul. And the dog is having a good time, right? I don't know what that is. It's none of my business.

Have you ever did that? You're not looking at him. Have you ever did that?

Have you ever had a dog lick my ass and peanut butter in it?

No.

You've felt it. But I'm familiar with it. Okay. So Willie Ray, I'm familiar with it because I caught somebody doing it Willie Ray

Willie Ray, yes You're 45 In 45 years of living have you ever been with a man?

No, do you have not I I... You have not, is now you're going into it. No, I'm not. I'm just trying to confirm. Yeah, but I don't want to... But here's the thing. I sit on a agency board, pause. And I'm the only straight person on the board.

But again, I have friends shout out to to ride shout out to dump and D about the backshot Don't miss D backshot on everybody else that that supports the agency What is the gauging? I have no idea. He's on the board. It's not an agency. It's a gauging seat. Yeah All things LGBTQ plus I I plus I Just cuz you I was already going in and then you looked up out plus I even is I plus Okay, cool I didn't want to have to ask this, but it's fair. Are you gay? No, sir.

Okay.

See?

And I've never experienced nobody getting licked. Not older people. I'm just... But that's for older people. Older people do that.

Older people do that?

No, I'm thinking like 50, 55. No, older.

Older people. Older people, they get their ass all licked by dogs. Keep going? No. We get it. I get it. Boy, he's insane.

Isn't that great? What a character. You should have him on your mom's house. I fucking would love to. Have him explain what the post-fight speech was about. What was that about?

Is he also the one that had the products with the glasses? Yes. Yeah, dude.

He's invented some of the world's best products, too. I don't know if you know about that. Yeah, it's fucking amazing, dude. It's amazing. What is the post-fight speech? See if you can find that. Because he said something really crazy. The way he said it was very strange. talking about yeah he was like getting interviewed and then he's like yo man like literally he's like i thought we weren't doing this i don't want to get anybody in trouble yeah or anything but i thought we had a deal which seems like if people were placing bets on that that's a which they definitely were they had to it people place bets on fucking there was another fight manzel fought too right yeah right people had to be placing bets 100 absolutely i mean that's the to get a visit from the fbi i feel like yeah well it also seems like you're admitting to a crime which is like maybe it's just because you got a concussion yeah sure you could i was just talking out i don't know what i was saying yeah i was talking crazy i was trying to save face a peanut bite in my ass and i just didn't know what i was saying pretending that i didn't know which i in the ring or this it was in the ring okay yeah there's a small part but they cut it out see yeah that was this is real weird oh here's a brand risk event and now the internet thinks

this whole thing. Hold on, don't talk to him. You don't deserve to talk to him. You done got a good-ass haircut and then came here and got spun. I thought we had a plan.

What the... I thought we had a plan. Yeah, there's more to it, though. This is not the best video to pull from. I'm trying to find it. I think I have it here. Imagine getting your ass whooped by Super Hot Fire. Yeah, it's a great name. I know. I got it, Jamie. Here, I'll send it to you. Hey, Joe, who knocked you out? Super Hot Fire. Oh, that's pretty tight. Well, you know, what are you going to do? It's Super Hot Fire. Here, I'll send it to you. it's just bizarre the way he says it yeah it's like you are either making an excuse or this is

the dumbest criminal ever I got a plan I don't want to say too much because I don't want to get nobody in trouble but damn my nigga nigga we took a L tonight we didn't take shit your ass was over here i gotta talk to the nigga about y'all talk backstage super howdy we lost nigga we didn't think you was gonna win so how y'all lost money wow yo man that seems real as shit though that

seemed very real that seemed very real so they must have yeah he must have said listen i'm gonna put a bunch of money on me to win yeah you have me win and he just look how much money we just lost They were going to split the money. Yeah. Some Pulp Fiction shit right there. Yeah, boy. We'll see. Super Hot Fire's like, Super Hot Fire doesn't take no money. Super Hot Fire gets killed in a drive-by. We know what's up. Yeah. Now you can't even retaliate. That's fucking nuts, dude. I know. It's crazy that he admitted it publicly. It's like very strange. Right in the moment? Yeah, very strange. Very strange that he would, I just, I mean, maybe he just got knocked out. Maybe he's never been knocked out before and he was just like confused. Yeah. And that's why he said it. But it seems like that was real. That did seem very real. Yeah. And Super Hot Fire wasn't like, what the fuck are you talking about? No, he kind of just was like, you can't take a shot. Yeah. He's like, do you know how much money we lost? I wonder how much money. They'll know. Like, they'll know bets. Yeah. 100%. And they'll also know, like, we got a few $200,000 bets that we should investigate. Yeah. You know, the UFC has had a real problem with that. Really? Oh, yeah. In what way? while they caught people um they caught suspicious betting and then um like the line changes like very quickly and there's a bunch of money being dumped on one fighter and then to lose in a very specific way like the first round and the fighter loses in the first round when they were the favorite and then you find out that his coaches have been on them and other different

people so it looks like they dumped the fight wow or maybe they went into the fight with a blown out knee and they knew it was blown out and they said i'm just gonna just put a bunch of money on me to lose and they go out and fight and lose so the fbi's involved and so there's a bunch of different

fights that are being investigated no shit yeah yeah there was that crazy doc about that college basketball one from years ago that was just incredible and the way that it all fell apart was they just got too greedy you know because they had a guy who i think he was the point guard maybe at asu or something and um and once they had him you know like locked in on this they just and they realized he really could swing it how they wanted to they started just betting great and then yeah the fbi was looking at these betting lines and saying like oh really there's two million dollars on this game from from one person like this is they started to just get keyed in on it and then the whole thing got exposed it's kind of funny that people don't think they're gonna get caught doing something like that yeah especially at that like where you go like oh just all the money can go in and it's like yeah it's too much man you know you probably could have gotten away with 25 grand or whatever you know like something that doesn't really ring alarms but if you start putting seven figures down you don't think anyone's gonna take a second look at

that what are the rules like what do you like you can't dump a fight but if you know someone's hurt like say if i know someone's hurt and i'm like oh i know he's hurt i'm gonna put a bunch of money on him to lose i wonder if that's legal is that insider trading i don't think it is i also feel

like it's different maybe i'm wrong if you are getting a bunch of people to do it versus you're doing it because you had you know what I mean because how could somebody you can't be sure that he's not going to still try to win yeah also it's like did you put a five million dollar bet on it right well

look at it this way imagine if I found out that Strickland hurt his shoulder that week and I'm like oh his shoulder's blown out I'm putting all the money on Homsad and then I lost DraftKings explicitly prohibits betting by insiders on sports or events where they have an unfair material or non-public advantage This applies to athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel, and sportsbook employees using private information to gain a betting edge. But none of those people that they mentioned there, athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel, none of them is like your friends with a guy because you train at the same gym as them. That's true.

Also, this is saying that this private company can do this. But legally? Is this a legal thing?

Yeah, that's where I was going to say. When you brought up the $5 million bet, if they lose a big bet like that, you definitely got to assume they're going to look into, like, well, who the fuck was this? When did they make the bet? How many times have they done this? Did they get lucky one time?

Well, look at the Strickland fight. So he was training with Johnny Eblen, who's the middleweight champion of the PFL, badass motherfucker, beast wrestler. And that's how he hurt his shoulder. and so like if you were there during those training sessions and you're like oh he's hurt I'm gonna fucking sneak away and put some money on it I wonder if that's legal I wonder if it is too because first of all you would have lost

because Strickland

wound up winning anyway

yeah exploiting non-public information such as knowing a star player is injured before it is announced can lead to criminal charges individuals caught coordinating insider betting schemes have faced federal felony charges including wire fraud bribery and illegal gambling

yeah but how's it bribery. I don't know. That is a sense on what. Yeah, what the circumstances are. But if you were in that situation and you bet on Strickland to lose, and he actually did lose, and you knew, I wonder. I wonder. Because in that fight, he was the underdog anyway.

That is kind of interesting. What is the legal threshold for public information? You know? Because that's really what we're talking about.

I think that's about fucking gambling in the stock market. Yeah, yeah. Oh, did you see that thing that I sent you, Jamie?

Yeah. Is that real? Well, so that's a—many things use that for statistics. That's things using percentages. So there's a chart Joe sent me about, like, the amount the S&P's gone up versus Republicans and Democrats, and it's a percentage thing. Democrats are up like 900 percent. I think Republicans are like 600 percent, and the S&P was up like 508 percent. But percentages don't tell you, like, what you started with and what you ended with. Right. You could have started with $100 billion, and you made $1 billion, and you made 1 percent versus someone who made $1 million. Right. It doesn't sound the same, but they're not relative.

Right. But when you look at the chart and you look at the difference between the Republicans and Democrats in terms of insider trading in Congress, they're all doing it. They're all doing it. That's why they can do it. Yeah. Because they're all doing it. If it was only the Democrats, the Republicans would be like, what the fuck, bro? Yeah. But since they're all doing it, everybody's like, what? There's a problem? Yeah. no problem. I don't

see nothing. Yeah, here's the chart. This is like an account that just takes data and makes

charts out of it. Yeah, so it's them doing better than the S&P.

But again, just using percentages is not a great way, because somebody could say something went up 77% or went up 300%. It doesn't matter what you're talking about. It sounds like a lot, but it might not be relative to what the actual number was.

Well, it's really interesting that they're doing so well.

Well, this is also saying, like, people could just bet Nvidia itself has gone up a shitload If you just put money in Nvidia You'd make a fuckload of money

I'll say this, that's a tough thing to resist To be sitting in Congress

And you know you're not going to get punished I mean, a few people have been punished, right? We looked that up the other day A few fucking blabbermouths probably Some outsider, some shithead That they were like, fuck him, throw him under the bus They probably had a few guys they threw under the bus

And it's probably somebody that didn't have

A portfolio didn't trump do a lot of like stock purchases he's made a fortune he's made a fortune in they

made a settlement with the irs i think that's why a lot of it came out recently but like he can't be

charged with anything or yeah they can't be uh the latest thing is that he and his kids and his company cannot be audited oh that's cool that is cool that's my settlement what was the settlement

What was the IRS being sued for? What was the accusation?

It was for the leak, the leak of his tax returns. OK, so the IRS leaked his tax returns? Yeah, he said they were reckless and...

Settlement of his $10 billion lawsuit.

2018 leak of his tax returns in New York Times in the U.S. is forever barred and precluded from examining or prosecuting Trump, his sons, and the Trump organization's current tax filings according to one-page document released Tuesday. That is so crazy. Imagine somebody accused you of murder, and it turns out you weren't guilty of that murder, and then you sue them, and you go, you can never prosecute me for murder again, and then you just go straight Uday Hussain. Yeah, and they're like, it's cool. Yeah, it's fine. Oh, that's nuts.

Now, here's the only thing, the detail of that. Is part of that settlement that says that, like the language, that they cannot be for their current tax filings, does that mean, though, that in the future, future filings also fall under that immunity?

Oh, go back. Go back, please. This is crazy. Like, go back to the top of that right there. Under the settlement to resolve Trump's $10 billion lawsuit over the 2018 leak of his tax returns to the New York Times, the U.S. is forever barred and precluded. But now look at the end. But it was quietly added to the original settlement establishing a $1.8 billion fund to compensate people who Trump thinks were improperly investigated by the government.

It's the January 6th fund, I believe. Yeah. They're paying for all of their legal fees.

Whoa. Yeah. But $1.8 billion is probably more than their legal fees, I would imagine?

Yeah, it's also going to be for, like, you know, I was— Compensation. So do they get compensated? They're all filing, you know, making claims. Are they? Yeah, well, a lot of them are making claims, yeah.

Well, here's what's fucked. For sure, there were government people that were rabble-rousers. There were people that were trying to get people to go into the Capitol. That's a fact. How many? They call them agent provocateurs, right? So there's people that your tax dollars pay that were trying to get people to commit crimes. We don't know how many. We don't know. And supposedly, no, they were just there to monitor. Really? Okay. But we know that people have done that in the past where they've encouraged people to commit crimes. Yeah. And we do know that there was some knowledge that this was going to happen and that they wanted it to happen. They wanted it to happen exactly that way. And they encouraged people to do it so they can make it look like Donald Trump is a real threat. Yeah. and keep them from running for re-election again. That didn't work out. The whole thing is crazy. Like, imagine that there are government employees with government tax dollars. They're being paid, and they're being paid to encourage people to commit crimes that they would have never committed without it. We know that's a fact. That's a real thing. Yeah. There's a guy in Dallas who was 19 years old that they tricked into detonating a fake bomb. they uh radicalized him um gave him a cell phone gave him a bomb the like the feds the feds jesus they they made him a jihadist so he goes to detonate the bomb it's not a real bomb anyway and then lock him up in jail forever they give him the bomb they give him the cell phone to detonate the bomb they talk him into doing it the whole deal and there's not going to be any they're just like that's done how about that lady in what was it Michigan which state was it where there was 14 people that were trying to kidnap her turns out 12 of them were FBI informants what the fuck really it was Michigan right what is that lady's name

Governor Whitmer

so there's 14 people involved in this kidnapping plot 12 of them were FBI informants so it's like a whole crew of fbi fed with the goal of what of arresting these two suckers these two retards that think it's a good idea to play along with these dorks and these guys were like we thought we were just talking shit yeah and now they're locked up yeah yeah sorry but i mean that's they spent money on this it's like your tax dollars go to try to trick people into doing a crime that you know they're going to do and they're never going to be able to do because you're going to arrest them before they go to do it. It sucks as a criminal to think

that you have to really doubt who you're working with, you know? Hard times. It's hard, man. I thought we were going to have some fun. Turns out you're a fucking snitch.

Maybe that could be an episode of next season. It's a good one, yeah. It's a good one, right? Yeah, it's a fun one. That's actually a very good one. There's probably a lot of room for comedy in that. Tons. It's just crazy. Because it's like they have to... This is the problem. And it's not entirely – it is their fault that they did that, but it's not entirely their fault because they have to make arrests. You want another one or are you good? No, I'm good. Thanks. If you want to have a career, your career is dependent upon you making arrests. Yeah. This is the stuff that I've worked with Josh Dubin with the wrongfully prosecuted and convicted people. one of the things you find out is that a lot of these prosecutors what it is is they want to boost up their career by getting cases handled yeah they want it they want to arrest people they want those people to be convicted that makes them look good so they just fucking monkey around with the

evidence this feels like a like a traffic cop meeting his quota exactly yeah exactly yeah you didn't use your blinker and you're like what are you doing man dude i had a guy pull me over and

And then he recognized me and let me go. But he pulled me over and said that I crossed the white line. And I was like, what? And he goes, he followed me like the moment I left where I was at. He was on my ass, like, immediately. So I saw I crossed the white line. So I was in my little loud BMW, my little E46. And it's probably like, look at this douchebag. He's probably drunk. Thankfully, I was completely sober. But he pulls me over, and he's like, I saw you cross the white line back there. I go, really? I go, okay. I go, I don't think I did. And he goes, Joe Rogan? And then they're like, oh, I'm just looking for drunks. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not drunk. So he was just going to try to see if he were. I think they have a quota. I think they have a quota. And I think, like, they have to fucking make arrests. And maybe they pull you over, and they realize you're not drunk, and so they just inconvenience you for five minutes, and they'll let you go. I had one of those. I've had that happen before. Yeah. I dropped my phone once when I was on the highway in L.A., and I reached down in between my legs to pick up my phone, and I must have, like, moved to one, and all of a sudden, whoop, whoop, I'm like, okay. I got out. I got to do the whole thing and touch my nose, the whole deal.

This guy accused me of, the cop accused me of trying to ditch him, too. He was like, you tried to ditch me. And I was like, what? He goes, you took a right here. And I was like, that's because I'm going this way. Like, I made a right because I'm going this way. He's like, where are you going? I was like, I'm going to my mom's house. He was like. Where she lived. Yeah, I was like up here, then I left, and he was like, all right. He's like, I don't know, man. He tried to get away.

One time, this guy in a truck didn't see me and totally turned into my lane, and I had to go into the, I mean, I was in a Tesla. Luckily, it was fast, so I avoided it and shot back into my lane ahead of him. But it was like, this guy came like inches away from hitting me, and I had to go into the opposite lane to pass him. There was no one in the opposite lane, but I did it. And then all of a sudden the lights come on and he goes, uh, I saw you pass that guy back there. And he goes, uh, you smell like liquor. I go, I have, I've, I'm not, I haven't drank a single drop of alcohol. I do not. He goes, you smell like liquor. I go, no, I don't. And he goes, Joe Rogan. I go, yeah. I go, what are you doing, man? I go, I go, go look at your camera. You have a camera, right? On your car. I go, go look at what happened. And so he looks at it. I go, that guy almost fucking hit me. And he goes, oh, I just saw it. Yeah. He almost hit you. He goes, hey, man, I love the UFC. I'm like, okay, cool. But, like, you didn't, you were pretending I was drunk. Yeah. You're pretending you smelled liquor. Somebody else would have had a real hard time with that. I smelled liquor was infuriating. I'm like, come on, dude.

That's so upsetting.

Yeah, I think I was coming from, like, somewhere innocuous, like the gym or something. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Yeah.

You're saying you smell liquor. You definitely don't smell liquor. You're just being.

an asshole yeah but they have a quota they have a fucking quota it's like imagine being them like hey Tom haven't met your quota what would they what would they do if no one if we we all just said hey this quota thing is bullshit everybody for the next month never speed always use your blinker stop at every

stoplight they would come up with something else what the fuck would they do yeah they would they would come up with something there'd be a new something would change in the law that would be illegal that people were doing but if no

So it's just speeding. Let's say speeding. If no one sped for a month, what the fuck would they do?

I mean, they would pinch people for something else. They just absolutely would. That's crazy. Because it generates too much revenue.

But isn't that crazy? Yeah. To think that the cops, the serve and protect, they're supposed to be that. They're glorified revenue collectors.

When you see these police departments that they investigate for being super corrupt, like the level of corruption in some of them is mind-blowing like no there was even that chief the chief that was and i think it was in jersey that was just like tormenting the entire department he'd shave his back on people's desk fucking stick a hypodermic needle in their leg put viagra in the coffee he's just like fucking with everybody yeah he was like tormenting people where was that In Jersey. Stuck a hypodermic needle. Yeah, dude, he was fucking absolutely crazy. Just because he had power. Uh-huh. Yeah, he was going nuts.

What is it about people that have power over people where they just like eight out of ten times abuse it?

I don't know. That's like all the dictator stuff I've been reading is like. Why are you reading so much about dictators? I don't know. The stories are just so wild. The Idi Amin thing is just so crazy. Again, like came from extreme poverty, neglected by his father, humiliated by the British, then joins the the battalion by the like to work with the same people that humiliated him, came to power and then became a complete megalomaniac. I mean, and also you see, one thing you see in all these dictators is such extreme paranoia because when you operate in a place of wanting to instill fear, you feel fear, you know? Oh, yeah. So they're all super paranoid, man.

I wonder if Uday was paranoid. Probably not. That's a good question. I mean, he probably had so much power that he didn't have to be paranoid.

His pops is paranoid.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Probably his own son's going to kill him.

The Kims, super paranoid. Oh, yeah. All of them. Oh, they have to be. Yeah. Because you just, you know, you're in such fear, and you just instill fear, and then you go, someone's... And they're right, because people are turning on them. Yeah. There's all these, like, attempts on their life.

Well... This is his brother, Kusay. Yeah.

Oh. Hours before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Kusay withdrew approximately $1 billion.

In cash.

In cash? In $100 bills. What? Yeah, right here. $900 million in $100 bills, the equivalent of $100 million in euros, loaded them into three tractor trailers and left. So $100 million in euros and $900 million in $100 bills and loaded in a tractor. Considered the largest bank heist in history.

Got there at 4 a.m.

Wait a minute. Also, it says until 2011. He got personal orders from his dad. Yeah. But is that his money or anybody's money? It's their money. Whoever's money it is. But, bro, what's the bank heist in 2011 that surpasses that? I think that's the English one. Oh. Is that the one?

It says $6 billion in Iraq missing, but it's been stolen.

Oh. What's that one? Fuck. But this just makes sense, man. It's like whenever there's a war, whenever there's chaos, there's a bunch of people that are going to fucking steal some money. Yeah. Iraq wants its money back. Los Angeles Times says that some of the officials in Baghdad have threatened to take the U.S. government to court to reclaim the missing loot. Good luck. Good luck with that. They'll start bombing you again. They'll find more weapons of mass destruction.

Pergraf-Buff says it was U.S. taxpayer dollars.

Oh, of course. Of course. They should, while they're looking for that, look for the $24 billion that they spent on the homeless in California. This is like, everywhere you look, there's people stealing money in sneaky ways.

The billion that he put into tractors ended up, though. I like how it just ends. He put it into tractors. End of story. Right. Where did it go? Where did that go? Because he was killed shortly thereafter.

Right. Where's that money? That's a lot of fucking money. That's a lot of cash. $12 billion in cash was flown into Iraq at 21 separate C-130 flights in May of 2004. That's why they like going to war. That's why these motherfuckers like going to war. Because for sure, you can get some of that.

You got a rain cash, bro.

some of that's yours yeah if you and i are running some fucking defense contracting company like Tommy, that yacht you got your eye on, here it is. Here it is, bro. Here it is. Let's drop a few bombs. Let's do it. That's only $100 million. Let's do it. That's a drop in the bucket for this operation. It's a very similar claim. Yeah. Afghanistan's Taliban displays pallets of cash received for humanitarian aid. Yeah, they just give them cash. Yeah. They just give them cash. Why? Yeah, look at that. Bricks of it. Look at what it looks like. $40 million in cash. Oh, nothing. There you go. Jesus. So this is what Tim Burchette was saying, that we give them that every month? Yeah, this is why I found that, this article, this one here. Look at that packaging, bro. Yeah, we send that to them every month. American tax dollars. And then we go, do the right thing. And then we're like, we don't have any money to fix the streets. We don't have any money to pay teachers, but we have $40 million a month for the Taliban.

I wish you would talk to whoever's in charge of infrastructure in this city to fix some of these streets.

Yeah, they're not going to listen to me. There's so many fucking potholes.

A lot of potholes, dude. And just destroyed, even in residential areas. The street is fucked up, man.

I know. I wonder why they don't fix that. I don't know either. It's not like it's not money around here. Oh, shit. Yeah. Well, maybe get Spencer Pratt if he loses in L.A. to run for mayor of Austin. Come to Austin, bro. We could use you.

Has he got a chance in L.A.? What do you think? I think anyone's got a chance. I think if you put together a campaign that gets some excitement and people talking, you have a chance in L.A. I really do. Like that city, the people there are. They're desperate. They're desperate. And also they live for entertainment. So entertain them a little.

Right. He's entertaining. He's entertaining as shit. You see one of the things he's doing, he's putting a stencil down on the streets and power washing Spencer Pratt for mayor into the dirty streets. No, is he really? Yeah. So he's putting it on the sidewalk and the sidewalks are so disgusting that if you put the stencil down and power wash it, you could see it clearly.

I mean, if you think that that guy doesn't have a chance, I would remind you that our president is a reality show fucking host. I think he's good.

I think his ideas are good. I think Spencer, I've had him in here. He's got some good ideas. I mean, he definitely wants to stop all this fucking camp.

He's running against the incumbent, or how many people is he running against? The incumbent and another woman.

But he's running as a Republican, which is a problem. I don't know. Probably not well. So Kalshi, the trading market, he's in second place. Behind her? Behind Karen Bass? Yeah. Imagine that. She burned down the entire Pacific Palisades by not having any water in the fucking hydrants, not having any water in the reservoirs. And they're like, yeah, but let's give her another chance. Yeah. Crazy. She was busy. She didn't have time to save all those houses. Aren't you glad you sold your house for it burnt to a crisp? It's really crazy.

I did a fundraiser show a couple weeks ago in Altadena.

Altadena is an even worse situation Because those people don't have any money A lot of them work in class families Lost everything

I haven't been to my old street but I saw a video It just looks like a bomb Like a bomb went off It was really crazy I'm glad we moved dude I'm really glad you didn't lose your house Me too man I really do feel for the people that did I know quite a few

My good friend Matt He lost his place. It's really sad. Yeah. Anyway, dude, your show's awesome. Thank you. It's on Netflix right now. It's really, really fucking funny. Thanks so much, man. It's fucking just so preposterous. It's so irreverent. And again, shout out to Netflix for having the cajones.

Yes. Thank you, Netflix.

Thank you. Thank you so much for the opportunity. For having the balls to do that show. Yeah. All right. Go watch it. I love you, buddy. Love you, too. Thank you very much. Bye, everybody. See you.

Thank you.