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d-rod free yes what a fucking crazy story so let's let's fill people in so you were a top contender in the ufc's welterweight division and then somehow or another you wound up getting

arrested in Mexico yeah man right after the uh Kevin Holland fight actually I was so I was in I was celebrating I was over in San Diego um had some drinks and decided you know what let's go to let's go to TJ she was you know always a phrase that is regretted we're not even that far Diego you're drinking you could walk there shit yeah yeah literally so um decided to go to to TJ for the for the night you know go celebrate my win i was obviously in celebration mode and i had an ounce of weed in the car you know and i've been across the border a hundred times bro never had no issues never had no problems never got stopped pulled over that's the last thing i would even think is that i thought we was legal in mexico i thought i thought so too like here everything's decriminalized down there uh apparently not man the the laws are like crazy crazy strict over there you know and i've been in situations before where i could like just offer some money and get out the situation you know like 500 bucks at at the most you know just let me on my way but got pulled over at the border and the border inspection um found found the weed in my in my backpack and i was thinking i wasn't gonna be in that situation where i could bribe my way out of it because it's mexico i've been there before and and i've been in these situations and nah man i thought you know they took me to jail that night and uh i was thinking all right i'm just gonna be here for the weekend i'll get out monday you know go to court and they're like nah we'll see you in a month i'm like a month you know like why it's just weed

You know what I mean? And yeah, eight months later. Holy shit. Yeah. Jimmy, can you please look up what the laws are in Mexico for marijuana? Because, man, I was reading something just a few years ago. Here it goes. Marijuana is decriminalized for personal recreational use in Mexico, but there's no legal commercial market and buying it or selling it remains illegal for tourists and visitors possession is strictly prohibited wait what the hell it's tourists and visitors so for everybody else you would be good like if you were a mexican resident you would have been good it looks like according to this uh personal limits can possess up to five grams uh and up to 28 grams is decriminalized how many grams are in an ounce that's one ounce

28 yeah, so it was a it was approximately 28 grams, so

Approximately you should have been decriminalized, but the thing is I think it's if you live there the border transporting marijuana Including edibles and concentrates across the u.s. Mexico border is either in either direction is a serious federal offense U.S. Customs and Border Protection strictly enforces federal laws prohibiting the import export of cannabis, but wait a minute that's That's that's us. But what about Mexico? You got arrested by Mexican police, right? I got I got Either direction. Wow, but but I feel like if you got arrested by Mexico Anyway tourists while small possession is technically decriminalized for Mexican residents the Mexican government explicitly prohibits tourists from possessing or Consuming drugs and you could face serious jail time So that's crazy like people would go over there going. Hey, no worries. I'm in Mexico. It's decriminalized here

Yeah, not for a fucking they were trying to give me six years, bro. Oh my god six years Oh, I had we had to do all kinds of stuff for me to get out dude like did the UFC and get involved? Hunter did my management did reach out to a hunter and They couldn't do anything. I got thin the reason why We'll get into that because I'm out. I'm right, you know, and And so I learned real quick how corrupt the system is over there. Everybody's trying to get paid. And the reason why that I was in there so long is, I guess, at the time where I got arrested, the whole judicial system was going through an election at the time. So it was new judges. So all the judges that were, like, taking bribes and stuff before, they had all got the they switched out the judges so the new judges were there were like all right we just got here we're not trying to take no you know we're trying to play it by the book and get comfortable so i was supposed to get released in december and and i guess i don't even know if i could even really don't get in trouble yeah yeah yeah yeah don't get in trouble they're worth it you tell me later if it's anything super crazy it's very corrupt it's very corrupt in there but um you know it's it's crazy dude like even being in there um so my whole experience my whole experience in there was like so crazy how well do you speak spanish i'll be i'm i'm i'm a expert now

i'm like fluent because of that experience or before i had already been you're obviously i

i already know spanish but being in there it's like became fluent yeah of course yeah but thank

god you could speak it imagine like i got arrested in mexico i'd be fucked yeah so when i first got

there um when i went to court the first time one of the guards recognized me and he's like you know i'm in handcuffs and he's like yo can i get a picture i'm like what what

so i'm right there taking pictures with the guards so surreal yeah oh my god you're fucking top ufc contender in cuffs in jail the fucking guard wants to take a picture with you wow while

i'm in handcuffs and the other inmates were like looking around like what the who is this guy you know because like the the guard was like yo this is this is such and such you know so um as we're getting transported to the jail which was the worst i mean i've been in jail before i've like i'm like from the age of 15 like 23 i was constantly in and out of jail you know i'm from la you know um i was you know gang member and and you know living in the hood and uh this time around was a whole different experience um one i'm in a foreign country and uh so i get there and they put us like in the in the processing area and the processing area is like probably about this this big and like 20 dudes in there all sleeping on the floor two dudes per bunk three three um on a three bunk three levels bunks and um i was there for like the first like the first 10 days and it was hell bro it was the worst like i had i don't know what kind of bugs there was in there but they were like biting up my whole body i had like like just just bite i don't know what it was dude it was like i don't know bed bugs probably

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Right when I had first got there, one of the inmates that saw that seen the guards taking pictures of me was like, we're right there conversating the whole time. And he had he had just got released from there, but he had did five years. He was out for like two weeks, got arrested with the gun and then came back. So he's like, hey, I'm calm. It's like I'm going to try to get you out of here, you know. and um over there the guards had tried to charge me seven grand bro to get me out of that to get me out of that cell and to move me into like a better a better place because over there if you got if you got some money you'll be all right you know and um so right before that happened the dude that was like yo i'm gonna come back for you bro don't even worry about it so how does this

work does the guard come up to you and go hey i can get you in a cell but it'll cost you seven thousand yeah they come up to you and tell you that yeah so the dude that i that was there was

that i had got to the the prison with he comes back down and he's like hey he's like hey um the guards came they pulled me out and they pulled me they bring me to a whole different like section of of um of the prison third the third floor and the second building and i go up there and i'm escorted by the guards and there's like a curtain there's like a curtain covering like the tear and i'm like what the fuck is going on like why is there a curtain and i get in there and they pull me to this dude and this dude's like oh you're you're a ufc fighter you know it turns out dude's like the head of the cartel you know like a cartel leader and he's like he's like oh he's like i want to just show you around a little bit let you know how how we're running things over here you know kind of just gave me the rundown and uh this dude had it made you know i get there and there's tvs in the fucking cell dude has a playstation he has like like a whole bunch of just all the amenities you can think of you know um he's like yeah he's like showing me around and shit kind of kind of showing me off like hey guys look look at this guy this guy you know he's a ufc fighter you know and i'm like all right you know what's going on here you know and like you know because it's jail dog you know i'm like if anything happens i'm gonna fucking use all my experience to survive this motherfucker right right and so he's like just pretty much give me the rundown he's like yo uh he's like i run in here this is like pretty much you know our our this is our home you know so that dude was facing some charges he got released and um he was facing some charges of um him and his like 13 dudes he got arrested with his whole crew him and 13 dudes were all in that tier so he had all his whole his whole squad with them and they had got arrested for dressing up as as um like government officials or like military dudes and they would go like raid dope houses and and and take their drugs whatever so they had got it all arrested for that and they were facing some serious time and and i'm i'm over here like i just got arrested for a fucking ounce of weed bro this is crazy he's like oh no you'll be out soon don't even worry about it but if you want we could get you we can get you like accommodated and you could come up here with us you know you'd like you'd be my cellmate or whatever you could be wherever you want i'm like all right he's like yeah but uh it's gonna cost you a little bit of money i was like oh yeah how much like three thousand and i looked at the guard the guard that was trying to charge me seven i was like he said seven he's like no no no he's trying to get more extra money out of you like but you do gotta like pay to get up here and like kind of like pay rent a little bit you know to the guards so i'm like all right yeah yeah so i'm like

all right cool so immediately i was like yeah let's do it so they keep like this brand new like nike track suit oh shit yeah and i'm like all right he's like we'll come we'll come up here tomorrow so i get there um i get there and then he's like yeah you just be my cellmate so um i pretty much ended up being like this guy's like i ended up getting the the feeling like i was like his protection kind of like or like you know like when we go to yard i just be like hey walk with me like and i'll kind of like just i got the impression like like like all right i'm his cellmate you know um like i got this guy's back you know he got my back i got his and i really trusted him you know and and and that's one hard thing to do in jail but like you catch vibes off people real easy you know and and and yeah dude it was just a crazy ass experience dude i ended up um we ended up working out with the with the working it out with the with the guards to get me some fucking boxing gloves, dude. I ended up getting some boxing gloves in there, some mitts, and it just so happened that the dude that I was cellmates with, he had a little bit of boxing experience. So he had been a boxer before, so I was like, oh, perfect, you know? And he actually knew how to hold pads and stuff, so I ended up spending this whole time...

Please tell me you didn't spar him.

No, he wanted to...

No, no, no.

No, no.

That's how it goes south. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're smart. You know what I'm saying? As soon as you said boxing gloves, I'm like, oh, please tell me this doesn't end the way I think it ends.

No, no. Yeah, we ended up actually being really cool. And, yeah, dude, I ended up pretty much spending this whole time, like, in a boxing fight camp, you know?

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I remember I even made, like, a makeshift double end bag. what I did was like I got balled up like a bunch of plastic bags like really like like made it real tight and like so it's like hard threw it in a sock um I was able to to to buy um from the guards like uh bungee cord yeah bungee cord and then set that up oh nice yeah and I made a heavy bag because they had like these big gallons of water and and I got the gallon of water and I wrapped it with like the um the mat from the from the bed so i was and i just threw it in a bag and and we had like a pull-up bar in our in our cell and i made a i made a heavy bag out of that and then whenever we go to yard i would just spend the whole time running that yard and i was just trying to do everything i could do to try and stay in shape man and it just time went time went on

the time went on the time went on and what kind of food did they get you in his cell it was all

junk food dude still yeah yeah um it was all junk food like chips noodles damn soda you know water condiments so no protein none none none none whatsoever and i didn't think about that part you know because i was working out like crazy and i was getting shredded but as time went on my mother like i like when i got out i was skinny as hell bro i was skinny as hell and and the only source of protein would probably be soy jesus christ yeah so they'll give like couldn't you bribe someone to bring in some fucking meat if you're the cartel yeah yeah yeah well that's the thing like it was crazy like so towards the end towards like the the final end of it um i guess the guards started cracking down on on like a lot of the stuff that was going on so we started to to lose a lot of those amenities that we were getting in the beginning and uh and i was just you know when i got out i was just uh malnourished as hell bro i'll show you a picture later like what i looked like when i got out completely different person how much weight did you lose um i didn't really lose that much weight but it was just like more my muscles were just were you thinking about going to 55 we were like damn i might be able to make 55 i made i've made 155 one 155 one time you're a big dude you made 55 that must have been hell yeah it was my it was the worst fight camp ever um it was all based on losing the weight losing and then i was just so i remember after that i made 155 i didn't even want to go to the gym for like a month bro i was like dude i need to this this

like my body was just done bro yeah you're killing your body yeah what is this oh yeah that's some of the workouts i was doing while i was in prison but no protein unfortunately yeah but no protein so i was getting pretty shredded like when in and that like period in time that was when we had like a lot of like we had food and and everything was cool and if you notice oh look at that the double end bag that's nice dude yeah dude and like you can see the tv in the back right on the put the playstation but i mean it wasn't dude you're looking good yeah tighten those hands up nice i bet yeah man it was just like a it was like a whole experience it was crazy because this guy he'd be like you know the guards would come and be like hey uh leave my door open yeah and the guards will actually leave this door open so like we were able to like walk around the tier and go talk to other people like me i i kept to myself a lot like i've been in jail like a ton of times before and i learned i learned uh easily that you know you'll you'll you'll go like a long uh you'll get by if you just mind your own business and not get involved in shit and not get involved with things so like i would just stick to myself you know and and just you know just get my workout on and and and avoid trouble avoid trouble you know but it was crazy to see firsthand how the cartel operates and it's crazy man they got their hands in everything over there

of course everything you know there there was 37 assassinations in mexico last election 37 yeah different political people and i was talking to ed calderon do you know who he is yeah yeah he's uh ed manifesto on instagram he was he used to work for the mexican government And then he became an American citizen, and he was involved with prosecuting the cartel, going after them, stuff like that. And he was essentially saying that, like, the entire judicial system, all the mayors, everyone, if they get in, they're cartel members. Like, no one gets in. No one is a mayor unless they're in the cartel. And when they're getting assassinated, it's cartel assassinations. It's one cartel, you know, wants their guy in and another cartel wants their guy in and they just shoot the other dude. Yeah. 37. Yeah. Imagine if that was in America. The last like the midterms. Imagine during the primary of 37 people got assassinated. We'd be like, what the fuck has happened to America? The final round of basketball season is here and only DraftKings has you fully covered. The DraftKings sports app is now available in all 50 states and includes all markets. You're in on games at the speed of sports. Sweat every possession of the series all in one place with one app. New DraftKings customers, sign up with the code ROGAN. Spend $5 to get $200 in rewards within 21 days. That's code ROGAN in partnership with DraftKings. The crown is yours.

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So one of the guys there was actually the actual hitman who was an actual like hit man um and he was in there he's like he's like yeah man i've killed like 30 cops in in my whole experience and he was in there for and they were they were just like telling me about all these things i'm like dude like everybody is involved in this shit it's crazy you know and and and over here like if you kill a fucking cop they're like they're coming after you but over there you know i guess it's just another thing killing killing cops are lower

tier than the cartel that's what it is yeah the cartel have more money more power more influence

yeah and it's crazy how like murders just they're not even that big of a deal over there you know while i was in there i i i i was reading or i saw that mexico has the guinness world record for missing people missing persons holy shit yeah yeah and it was crazy there's so many like it was so many hit men in there it was crazy but you know i mean i didn't have i didn't get no shit from nobody you know everybody was like cool as hell that's awesome well you're an easy to get along with dude yeah yeah luckily yeah did anybody ask you to train them actually dude there's some dogs

there man i bet there's this one guy in particular i'm like dude you gotta fucking start fighting you like and he's like he's he was uh one of one of the military dudes and he's just a little fucking machine dude and in the time that i was there he got he got really good really quick you know and i'm like dude you gotta like go to the gym down in tj uh that interim gym i had i had mentioned like yo even when i got when i when i got released um that uh man we we did a whole lot things to try to get me out man um there's a ton of fighters even try to pull some strings for me like yair rodriguez you know uh brandy moreno he's from tj and and and nobody nobody could help me out man everybody tried to pull strings for me and nobody came up with a number

yeah eventually what was how much was the number can you tell uh i don't want you to get in trouble

nah no don't get in trouble yeah but it was talk to me later it was hefty it was i bet it was not cheap i bet it was not cheap at all i bet yeah everybody wants to get paid yeah dude yeah it's crazy uh crazy experience dude and um to get out of jail you know and then and then now i have this fight i'm headlining headlining um ufc serbia first time in serbia fighting euros medic when is that fight august 1st nice yeah to get out to get to go through all that and then and then to have this opportunity is just crazy and to be here to be here is just crazy man because I didn't think I was going to get I wasn't sure if I was going to get out man

for good reason a lot of people don't yeah you know the United States prison system is fucked too but nothing like Mexico's everybody that I've talked to that has any experience in Mexican jail they're like dude it's not good it was crazy

I just can't believe the cartel can't sneak me in we did sometimes yeah yeah we did some like we had they would bring us groceries bro oh really yeah because that's the first thing that

I would want man I would feel like look what do we got to do these guards what kind of car do you drive dog let's upgrade that motherfucker we got to do something I can't be eating noodles yeah man especially as hard as you work out yeah i was i was working out like two three three hard

hard workouts a day you know i'll do um so i'm kind of programmed like to just work out you know i think i think from my prior jail experiences before the only positive thing that i think that helped me and that whole everything that i've been through is like when you're in jail like i personally i'm like i would i would think like dude you you you got to be strong you got to be able to defend yourself you want to like that's that's my whole reason for for staying in shape you know when i started um doing mma it was just to to to be able to defend myself you know in situations like if i ever did go to jail you know and the only thing that i positive that i that i took from that is like when I got when I when I'll get released from prison prior I just want to work out I'm already programmed to to just work out all day you know so once I found MMA I was like oh this is perfect you know and and how old were you when you first started training 25 wow yeah first yeah dude yeah turn into a UFC contender that's very impressive not a lot of

guys started late did you have any sports experience before that none bro nothing none

that's crazy none but i had i had been in no bullshit though i had been in probably around 200 street fights already including all my jail experience you know when i was in juvenile hall i was a straight knucklehead bro i was fighting like every other day um and it was just it became just fun just fun like if like you were like a like a tough looking dude was like hey what's up man want to scrap or what bro like you know just he's like why like because you're big bro i just want to fight you yeah and and with no training you had no training at all no no training man just just just want to just want to learn how to fight just want to by fighting yeah yeah so that's a crazy way to learn yeah dude just and like dude you can't i mean like imagine getting in a fight with your cellmate i got some crazy shit that's crazy shit yeah you gotta sleep together sleep with one eye open bro like yeah and um yeah so that's that's the only only experience i had prior to to starting mma and then i remember i stopped going to jail when i was like 23 when i stopped when i stopped going to jail i started having kids and i'm like all right gotta start i gotta stop gangbanging because i used to think going to jail was cool i used to think it was cool because you get out and you just have like a little more respect like like i thought i thought it was cool i thought like like oh going to jail makes you a badass you know but once i started having kids i realized like all right i gotta take care of i got human beings i gotta fucking i gotta take care of and raise you know so i started looking for every any possible way to try to live a decent life and i've tried everything man i've had every job you could think of and but i've even had good jobs before and i've lost them you know by just being a knucklehead and going back to jail and i remember i got out of prison one time and my cousin hits me up and he's like yo uh come to my house bro we're gonna watch uh some fights and barbecue and stuff i was like all right yeah dope i was like who's fighting he's like um some dude rampage i'm like who the fuck's rampage so i get there and that's when forrest griffin had fought um Rampage won the the light heavyweight title and I'm like yo this is amazing bro and then I fell in love with Chuck Liddell and I'm like dude this he's just like me bro he's like knocking dudes out you know and I just obsessed with it I just obsessed so that was your first exposure to MMA I had seen it before like when it was Tank Abbott oh early days yeah in the early days but it never caught my attention like because i had always been a boxing fan i'm a huge boxing

fan and and i grew up watching boxing like um all i'm like majority of my family functions growing up they were all boxing events like oscar de la jolla mike tyson uh manny pacquiao floyd mayweather and and i was just i loved boxing you know and i remember i mean i did have a little bit of experience before going into mma because when i lived in the hood i would always have boxing gloves and i would always make my homies fight each other like when we're all hanging like hey you go with him you go with him because like you know we're all boys and i want them to like i always wanted them to to to like in case in case anything happens in case we're ever all out and we get in a rumble with somebody or anything like that like i try to make my homies more tougher you know because like hey you guys gotta have my back i got yours and that's just that's that's just something we just did you know or like we'll we'll just go body shots body punches you know right and just fight each other so that's kind of my background bro to be honest with you and and yeah man i just i just i just carried that into into the gym when i first went i remember the first gym you went to it's called it was called tap out in downtown la okay at the time i think that's um i was training with eddie bravo and and he had moved in 10th So that's when I first started, I wanted to box. I remember the tap-out gym very well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a great gym. Yeah. And I remember when I first started going there, I was working construction. I was working on a high-rise in downtown L.A. And I would pass by every day. I'm like, man, I want to go in there. But I never would go in there. I would just pass by, and I would get home, and I would talk to my bed. I'm like, man, there's this gym. called tap out i really want to go you know she's like oh yeah but i was talking about all the time but i never had like i don't know you know it's kind of nervous it's kind of nervous going walking into a gym for the first time and you don't know like what to expect or but i was just a fan and so i walked uh actually the the way i got started was it was it was our anniversary and as a gift she gave me a gym membership and then i went to the gym and the the coaches were like yo dude like who is this guy you know but when i first went in there i was like so raw and just so like street street fighting experience but i had power i had some power and um you know i just fell in love with it and the coaches were like even the days i want to show up because in the beginning of it i was still like still had that knucklehead mentality i'll still be out partying with my friends or not show up to the gym and coaches will actually call me like yo work where are you at you should need to be in the gym you need to be training so i guess what what helped me in the

beginning was my actually my coaches like really noticing that i had like a talent you know i had I had.

And I just obsessed with the amount of fell in love with the whole training experience. And And I remember my first time trying jiu-jitsu. It was a skinny fucking skinny dorky-looking dudes like hey You need to come train jiu-jitsu man come trying to I was like nah Because I remember right before I watched it and I was like, oh man, wrestling is gay, dude dude wrestling is gay i'm trying to watch that you know and then obviously like you go through that experience i'm like all right so the skinny dude is like come on man just try it out i bet you can't you know i bet you i could make you tap or whatever like nah nah he went strangled me you know i'm like oh hell nah nah i hate losing bro so i was like and there's there's two different kinds of people there's people that will get their ass whooped and just like nah it's ain't for me or um you get your ass with me like i'll never want that to happen again you know so i would show up every day determine like one day i'm gonna one day i'm gonna win one day i'm gonna get one day i'm gonna get him and that honestly kept me kept me in the game you know it's amazing how

little tiny dudes can fuck you up dude that's the last thing i expected i was like what jujitsu is the only thing that like you know in martial arts movies there was always this myth that the little guy can fuck up all the bigger guys yeah but with striking that's hard power's real size is real mass is real yeah there's just too you know too many variables if a guy knows how to throw a good one-two you might be fucked he hits you in the clinch you can't get away from his clinch he's too strong he clubs you you're fucked but jiu-jitsu man there's no lucky punches in jiu-jitsu and that's what's crazy when a little guy just annihilates you it's so humbling my first experience uh it was a dude who was a purple belt i was a white belt and he was my size i was like this dude's my size like this isn't that a bigger dude this is gonna be you know competitive not he just raped me just did whatever the fuck he wanted to do to me arm barred me triangle me and i remember leaving going i am so delusional i had this idea in my head you know that i knew how to fight and then until i started doing jiu-jitsu i was like i don't know anything I'm helpless like completely helpless yeah but you know like you the the smart thing to do like what you did is just go I want to learn that you know and you having the courage to do that you know especially as a guy who didn't have any martial arts experience at all just like throw yourself into it it's very difficult to do man and especially at 25 yeah because by 25 like John Jones had already been a UFC champion and defended it multiple times you know it's like by the time you're starting out so many guys are like in the middle of their career yeah uber eats makes last minute gifting easy mother's day father's day graduation you blink and they're here just because it snuck up on you doesn't mean your gift has to feel like it the uber eats gift hub has something for everyone flowers perfume champagne even their favorite takeout order, and it can show up in as little as 25 minutes, even if you just remembered five minutes ago. The best part, you can add a video message and a personal note so it actually feels like you planned it all along. Order on Uber Eats today. Must be 21 or older to purchase. Alcohol, product availability varies per region. See app for details. This episode is brought to you by Traeger Grills. If you enjoy food, and I mean really good food, Traeger is a game changer. This isn't just a grill. It's the ultimate way to cook outdoors, delivering unbeatable wood-fired flavor thanks to the all-natural hardwood pellets that fuel everything you grill, smoke, or bake. That's it. Just wood and fire and flavor. And what's truly wild is how easy it is. Just set the temp load the grill and let traeger handle the rest grill steaks smoke ribs even baked pizza

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that's one thing that i that i've i've always thought about um and those like why i work so hard is like i feel like i have to catch up to these dudes that have been doing this their whole life you know like like dudes have been in the gym since there were kids doing karate and you

know there's there is a thing though about having a lot of street fights there's a mental edge to being in a lot of conflict and a lot of combat one things i've always noticed about you when you fight you're very calm like when you get in there you're very relaxed yeah like and it's like

life experience you know that's a factor yeah i just feel like in an mma fight it's it's a safe environment like believe it or not to me it's safe right you know because i've been in i've been in because if anything goes wrong the rest right there like all right there that's it

It's done, you know. It's a fair fight. You know, I've been in situations where I don't know if I'm going to live. Right. You know, if I don't survive this, I might die. Yeah. You know, and I think that I carry that a lot, you know, while I fight. And that's why I look so calm because I'm calm in hectic situations like that.

Yeah, it's not the worst thing you've experienced. For a lot of fighters, it's the most dangerous thing they've ever experienced. yeah and they step into that octagon they close that door and they're looking across this octagon and another train killer like oh boy like this is the scariest thing that's ever happened to them yeah so there's a mental benefit that you have for having all those street fights and even though you didn't start until late man the mental game might be most of the fighting you know yeah

man when when i step in there i'm just i'm just happy to be there you know like i i i'm lucky to be out here i'm lucky to be have my freedom i'm lucky to be alive you know so when i'm when i'm walking out to a fight like i just feel i just feel happy dude i'm just i'm just it's just happy happiness like you know because while i'm backstage i'm like thinking how did i get here dude you know like i'm just how the fuck did i do this how did i make it this far you know right and you know like a situation like like this like where i'm fresh out of fresh out of jail you know and and i'm like dude like main event in serbia against a guy from serbia is crazy bro but you know what just live live that shit man i like i told myself like dude this is your opportunity to to tell like Like, this shit's a movie, bro. Like, my life is crazy.

It is a movie if you think about it. I mean, very few people live that life. In and out of jail many times, locked up in Mexico for eight months, never knowing if you're going to get out. Next thing you know, you're headlining a UFC card.

Yeah, man. Sitting here. Main event. Yeah, sitting here on the Joe Rogan experience, you know, telling my story is just, you know. Where's Eurus Medich ranked? Is he above you or above you? He's number 13. What are you at? 15 yeah so both of you guys top contenders i'm surprised throughout that whole process they kept

me in the rankings well good respect to them you know also they probably realize you were probably working out in jail yeah yeah but i mean well it's not you shouldn't be punished for something like that you get stuck in a crazy situation yeah especially if you're coming from california where weed's legal everybody gets confused you know you have that weed in california everybody is everywhere it's totally legal that's why it didn't even i know it didn't even cross my mind

it didn't even cross my mind i know that hey we can get in trouble for this that's crazy

you know i would have never known those laws because i heard that it was decriminalized i thought oh they don't they got other shit to worry about they're you know they got cartel problems and fentanyl problems they don't give a fuck if you're bringing in weed yeah well now

now i have a part of of the process of me getting out is like i have to get like now i have dual citizenship in mexico now you do yeah because of getting out no no um my lawyers um it was a part of me getting out so like when you pulled up the um the the uh decriminalized the laws for the laws for citizens so that that was a process of oh so you became a citizen so the law was less for you yeah well that's hilarious so it was a ton of stuff that we had to do bro that is a crazy

loophole yeah yeah so now people ask everybody should become a citizen of mexico yeah man i ain't

never going back to mexico i'm not going back for a while bro i cannot see myself either i don't even want to go back so um especially since i released the footage of me working out in prison and stuff Like, I don't ever want to go to Mexico and for any reason they're like, get his ass, you know, bring him back over. Yeah.

Yeah. And they probably would, too.

Yeah.

At the very least, try to get more money out of you. Definitely. Especially after you're headlining a UFC card.

Yeah. And on top of that, like, releasing that footage was like, definitely like a no-no.

How did you, did they all have cell phones inside?

Yeah, so we had cell phones, yeah.

So were you texting your friends? You could text your lawyer, all that shit? Yeah. Did you worry that your text would be intercepted?

No, no, not at all, because I would text everybody or call everybody on WhatsApp, and I guess...

Yeah, it's encrypted.

Yeah, it's encrypted.

And so when you're doing all this and filming all this, you just save the footage, and then when you got out...

No, I would send it. I would send it to, like, my friends. So I sent it to one of my buddies, and I was like, yo, save all this stuff, because when I get out, this is going to be big, bro, you know?

Well, I'm glad they didn't release it before you got out.

Yeah, yeah.

You got to really trust your friends, because that could have been fucked.

Yeah, man, and the whole time, like, knowing you where I was at, knowing you where I was going on, and there was a couple rumors going around that I was backpacking in Peru. another one was was one of my buddies like it's crazy how the internet believes anything bro like there's people thought i was building wells in rwanda like one of my buddies said that he's like oh he's building wells in rwanda doing god's work and like people ran with that like hey actually people when i got released uh right away they were like oh kevin holland bailed him out and kevin holland bailed him out to get a rematch and people believe that that's hilarious that's

so funny it must have been so weird so when you're inside did you did they have the internet would

they could they watch fights yeah yeah actually um so they ended up putting like these self like scramblers like these towers that like mess up the signal and we ended up getting uh what's that that uh tesla thing starlink we ended up getting starlink you got starlink in a tijuana jail yeah oh my god that's insane yeah we ended up getting starlink and have wi-fi for a little while and then i remember we ended up losing all that stuff because um like every every once in a while they'd be like hey the guards will come like hey uh they're gonna come do inspections and you know so they would like hide everything and i remember this one time they hid everything and they're like oh we're not gonna give back to you guys so we ended up that like i'd say like by by the fifth month uh that's when like they really started cracking down and stopped bringing us like the extra food and the food that like the prison food in there dude is it's the worst it's terrible terrible um tortillas like with every meal like five tortillas rice or beans and like some kind of like soup but the soup is pretty much there's no meat in it it's it's um majority of it's like potatoes and carrots you know like so your only protein you're getting from beans yeah yeah and it was just horrible dirty unsanitary what's the first thing you ate when you got out first thing i ate when i got out was um a double western bacon cheeseburger from carl's jr must have been the best ever yeah man and i couldn't even finish it because at the time like my stomach was so i got i like i got full as hell man like i was crazy and um man i was so skinny when i got out bro it's crazy so like this whole time i just been like trying to to just bulk back up you know so what did you weigh did you weigh yourself when you got out uh when i weighed i weighed myself when i got out and i normally walk around around 200 and i was like around 180 you know but i looked horrible bro like i looked like i just cut weight i looked like i was like i'm sure yeah it was it was horrible but it was it was like i wasn't shred or nothing i just had no muscle definition and it was just it was bad bro and i remember um when i first got out man i was like thinking like all right i tried like when i got out i hit the like i got out ready to just like all right i'm gonna get my life back i'm gonna i'm gonna uh train my ass off bro i was so out of shape i was so out of shape bro and and i was like really discouraged at the time you know i was like dude i don't know i think my fucking career is over

dude i don't know how am i how am i gonna come back from this you know i was so out of shape and that's crazy because you're working out so much in jail yeah but it was just um because of of the lack of of nutrition yeah nutrition i was like so malnourished your body was just destroyed yeah it was horrible bro and uh i almost thought like dude i can't do this shit anymore dude like i'm like i'm not gonna i think my career might be over you know and um i was just in my head about it for a little bit and then and then you know like i was like nah you know i'm i'm a fucking soldier dude i could bounce back from this and and you know i just i just really believed that through hard work, you know, I'll get back to my old self. And now I feel great, dude.

How long did it take before you started feeling normal?

But I'm barely starting to feel like 100% now.

Now? Yeah. And when did you get out?

It's been almost two months.

Wow, that's not a lot of time.

Yeah.

And when is this fight? It's August 1st?

Yeah, it's another two months. Yeah.

That's good.

Yeah, and I feel good now.

That's crazy, though. It takes you two months, and then now you're back. You look normal, like physically. Yeah. You look healthy. so it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle tone back and all that that's a good thing though that you were always in shape so you bounce back quicker you

have muscle memory yeah and actually i've honestly been enjoying the process this whole process of of like when i first got out i could only run like a mile and i was dying bro and through through each run i could see my progress i'm like okay i'm getting better okay i'm getting better and and like i'm in love with it right now i'm in love with like getting better and better and better one percent every single day you know i truly believe believed that through the work and and to trust the work that i have ahead of me and i honestly think that by the time the fight gets here i'm

gonna be in perfect peak shape that's awesome yeah what a crazy comeback story yeah you know

Yeah, and it's really just, like, a really deep personal one for me because from when I first got out to now, it's just, like, it's crazy. It's crazy how the body can bounce back and, like, just get back into shape, you know?

Well, it's crazy, the mind, too. I mean, you must be so thankful. Just every time you're training, yeah, you might be tired, but, man, you must be so thankful that you're out and free and then you're working towards something big you know you got a big fight coming up and

what a blessing yeah man and i'm just i'm just embracing the whole process you know and i'm just you know i'm all for it i'm all in actually going to to jail and going through all that actually made made me appreciate and value everything that i have going on right now so so i'm just like so grateful and so thankful that i even have this opportunity and i just signed a new contract with the ufc six more fights nice and and now i'm main event it's just crazy dude dude if you go on

to win the title for me how crazy would that be do you know i'm saying yeah that would be crazy and you know you beat medic you're in the top 13 you're close to the top 10 a few fights later

anything can happen in this yeah and i would even tell dudes like that like realistically bro like i can like in four or five fights go like four or five fights i could be fighting for the

championship you know maybe even less in this sport no it all takes is a few spectacular results a few spectacular results and people get behind you and the crowd gets behind you and next thing

you know yeah i mean if i go out there and smoke this guy and it's gonna be it's gonna be so much even bigger just because of the whole experience that i went through and like man he got out of and just fucking knock this dude out and you know why not like why why not bro you know why why can't i be that guy like you hear stories all the time of of these incredible stories of people that become champions from nothing and then been through all kinds of stuff like why not me bro

listen you never fucking know you never fucking know that's the crazy thing about this sport yeah anything can happen dude yeah i mean you got makachev as the title holder which is you know one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it that's part of the problem yeah you know he's got the opposite life that's a guy that's been disciplined and training his entire life you know he's never never fucked around no drugs no drinking no nothing just

discipline yeah it's tough sell it's different different levels man yeah there's different levels to it how old are you now 39 yeah yeah so that's like i got like a couple more years left

man so that's why it's crazy while they stole eight months of like very valuable time yeah

and that's what that's one thing that that's one the number one thing that i was like man like i'm running out of time bro you know i don't got yeah i don't got a lot of time left you know So getting out, and like I said, I'm just taking it a lot more serious, you know? I'm sure. Where are you training now? So right now I'm in Vegas, training over at the PI at Extreme. Oh, that's great. At Extreme Couture, and right now in Freestyle MMA. While I'm in Vegas and while I'm in California, I go to Classic Fight Team, training over at Tenori and 10 Planet

You know, so I'm just, but right now, I'm in Vegas right now. It's so much, so much easier. L.A.'s crazy, dude. I'm on the road. When I'm in L.A., it's just, I'm on the road all fucking days. L.A. traffic is just a nightmare. So that's why, like, I'm in Vegas right now because everything's so close together and so convenient.

It's also so high level. There's so much high level training in Vegas. Yeah. And the PI is an amazing resource for fighters, you know, as far as nutrition, cutting weight. I mean, they'll get your meals for you. They get your supplements for you. They make sure that everything is, you know, safe for sport approved so you don't have to worry about testing positive for anything. Like, the PI is amazing.

Yeah.

Such an incredible resource.

Yeah, right now it's a little bit crazy because they're letting, like, the slap fight guys go there and the Zufa boxing guys, I think.

Yeah.

So, yeah, those guys are using the slap fight guys train. I don't know how they train. Like, how do you how do you train for that, bro? You know, they do neck workouts. I don't know.

I guess that's it. Yeah. Right. Swinging things with your arms. Yeah. I guess like cable machines. You know what I'm saying? Like get a cable on your wrist and do this a bunch of times.

Yeah. so they have um at the pi they have like this like this thing that gauges your um your power and your strike and they use that they use that all the time the power slap guys do oh that's so silly yeah and and then also the zufa boxing guys are there too so so it's a little it's a little bit hectic right now there's like a lot going on yeah i could imagine yeah power slap guys that's a different thing i've never been to one of those i hear i hear you have to go to one to like enjoy

you have to be on acid yeah to me it's like i don't know man i feel i feel like letting someone just swing on you and the thing is like if you get the first swing you have a giant advantage yeah the first swing is a crazy advantage that's dangerous bro that's yeah just getting you know just getting whacked and some of these guys they get knocked out yeah oh 100 man it's not less powerful than a punch you know this is the idea that you're slapping like this that's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand yeah right on your fucking jaw yeah it's super powerful you can only take so many of those in your whole life you know you're lining up for those

yeah i mean you can imagine like their nerve damage on your face too well i mean look i'm

for whatever you want to do you want to jump bmx bikes you want to ride bulls you want to power slap have at it this is america have a good time yeah but it seems like at an mma gym it should be mma fighters i don't i mean the boxing is probably a good crossover like you could probably get some good work with some of those guys yeah you know and also seeing high level boxer train is good it's great for your technique it's great for just raising the level up in the gym yeah yeah no it's

It's really dope. I love the PI, man. And Vegas in general, like there's so many killers out there.

It's one of the best places in the world for MMA training. You've got Extreme Couture. Think of how many killers are training out of there. There's so many. You've got Syndicate. There's so many places, man. Yeah. It's incredible. So much jiu-jitsu. Robert Drysdale's there. There's so many guys that are there. Tenth Planet there. There's so much jiu-jitsu there. There's so much MMA there. I mean if you're a fighter it's like one of the best places to live yeah I remember when I first

when I first went out there I was in about 2020 uh I went out I was I was on Cowboys camp and uh he went out there and and that's when I saw firsthand all the all the the amenities from the PI and like all the the whole Vegas experience and so I decided to move out there So I lived out there for, like, two years, and I've just been going back and forth ever since.

It's worth living there just for the P.I.

Yeah.

You know, and then there's so much Muay Thai there. There's so much everything. There's so much great training there.

Yeah, yeah.

There's a ton of gyms, like you said, man. Yeah, there might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas in that regard. Yeah. Think about boxing. You've got Floyd Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms there. You've got high-level boxers there. You've got high-level Muay Thai guys there. You know, One Kick Nick has his place there. There's so much high-level training in Vegas. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Summer is great, isn't it? It's the perfect season for adventures, but it can also be pretty exhausting juggling chaotic schedules and trying to make the most of summer. That's why it's important to take a moment for you. Go out for a weekend without planning anything and...

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Yeah, sometimes I even go to the Andrew Kiwani gym. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Anthony and Chidi. They have their own gym?

Yeah. Okay. Well, they were with one kick-nick, right? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking crazy town. Yeah, man. For training. And again, like, I can't say enough. I've been to the P.I. a bunch of times, but when I first went there, before they were really open, when they were really getting rolling, I was like, this is incredible. Like, if you're a fighter, you have a place that has all the recovery stuff, all the high-end, top-notch recovery stuff, cold plunge, saunas, everything, like all physical therapy, supplements. When I found out they make food for you, I was like, this is crazy.

Yeah, I love that part. I'm always I'm always there, you know, you could go there order whatever you want, you know, and sure

Steak and steak and rice, you know. Yeah. Well, they just want you to be healthy, which is make sense Just it's so smart that they did that when they did that. I was like What are they doing dumping all this money in that who's gonna go there? And then when I went there was like Oh, I get it. They went all out They went all out and it's just if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the UFC see what better way than provide the best world-class facility on earth yeah and then to put it right there in vegas and now they have a bunch of them right they have one in mexico they have one i think they have one in singapore yeah they have a bunch of them it's awesome so smart such a smart move to do you know what would have been crazy if you were on the white house card if you

got really dude that's gonna be major dude that's crazy major i wish it was inside but it is gonna

to be crazy it's so funny watching people lose their mind over it you know you know in all sorts of different ways yeah lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation this country lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money why they're spending so much money this country's in debt we got problems why are we having a fight and then other people are like fuck yeah you know i mean there's no more american thing than having a ufc fight on the white house lawn it's so america it's so it's so trump it's so crazy you know i mean a ufc fight

on the white house lawn is bananas yeah man even um the fight card is amazing as well oh fight card's

incredible the only thing that bothers me is that it's outside yeah these guys are they're fighting for world titles i mean ilia taporia might be is he is not just one of the best right now he might one of the best that ever did it it's very possible that he goes down in history as the all-timer i mean he's he's so good and for him to have to defend his title the world title outside

with bugs and humidity and heat yeah you gotta take into account the weather you know it's a

whole different environment it could rain it could thunderstorm who fucking knows it's dc it's the east coast in the middle of the summer i mean it's it's crazy to have a fight outside in june

in dc yeah i've i've fought outside before it's it's definitely a different different vibe different energy where'd you fight outside um i fought outside for combate americas uh it was uh somewhere

in arizona and it was a nighttime that's camel mclaren's organization yeah yeah love that dude

i've also fought in the summer in the daytime and i had a fair oh my god yeah it was in california in california what was the temperature it was hot as hell dude the mat was hot as hell it was like

at a fair in the middle of the summer oh that sucks the mat's hot i didn't think of that

yeah dude was it canvas or was it like mat i think it was mat oh jesus yeah it wasn't so not just that but it gets slippery as fuck too then yeah dude it was hot as hell bro did you ever see

king of the cage wet and wild you ever see that no king of the cage put on a fight in the middle of a rainstorm and just let people fight just like i think they just said look you know if you want to fight you get paid this is it it's going to rain out and we're going to have to fight because it was outside yeah so this is back when california did not have mma it was illegal but it was legal on indian reservations so we would go to these indian reservations for king of the cage so so back when eddie i think eddie was the commentator at that event i'm not sure but he was one of the main commentators at king of the cage and my friend bud who's my neighbor back in california i actually sold him my old house real good friend of mine he was one of the owners of king of the cage and they were just putting on these events in fucking these indian reservations when it was totally illegal in california so we would just drive to the indian reservations and watch and one of them it poured i mean it was outside the whole thing was outside they just set up a cage outside and it's fucking pouring dude and these guys are slipping all over the place and it's crazy they're fighting with wrestling shoes on and it was just some of them did at least and it's fucking ridiculous like there's no way you should fight like this yeah

my my actually actually my pro debut was for king of the cage outside on the indian reservation What year was this? I want to say 2017, maybe? So they were still doing them outside even then? Yeah. Wow. At a Ceboba Casino. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's where we went.

Yeah.

See if you can find the King of the Cage footage for Wet n Wild. It was one of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life. Just imagine you're basically fighting on ice. You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look, they're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, what are you going to do? You're not going to dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this. But they were trying to at least give them some sort of, like, not sopping wet environment.

Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on.

Oh, look.

Look, they're slipping.

Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on because I don't remember what year this was. The ref with the ponchos is kind of funny. I know. It's crazy. All the officials have ponchos. I mean, it's fucking pouring rain out. I don't remember what year it was.

I think it said it right there. 2001, I think.

Oh, okay. That makes sense. So I think that's illegal days. I'm 99% sure that's the illegal days. Of course it is, because they're wearing shoes. But the whole event was just insane. And imagine trying to get a submission on someone who's literally soaking wet. Yeah, dude. I mean, it's impossible. It's so crazy. But, I mean, these dudes will remember this forever. This event, like, everybody was there. You see the rake? Oh, it's pouring. It's pouring. But why are they bothering, like, sweeping the water off? You're not going to dry it out. And look at his feet, man. His feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on. It's crazy. In a situation like that, you're almost, like, better off, like, immediately going to the ground. But even then, like, how are you going to even get a choke? People are, everyone would slide out of everything. It's like fighting someone who's oiled up. Look at him just drying them off. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, but the White House one, I just hope it doesn't rain. I hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs, too. I've been investigating online. There's a bunch of different machines that they sell for, like, outdoor events, and they kill every bug within, like, a mile radius. They set these things up, and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped, And at the end of it, they dump it out. There's like a fucking, like a big bag of bugs. So if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter, maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there. Because you have, in the D.C. area, you have a lot of gnats. Imagine fighting and you got a gnat in your eye. You're in the middle of moving around, something goes in your mouth. You know? Yeah, is there a lot of them out there? Oh, yeah. Yeah? It's moist. That's the thing about D.C. It's humid. It's a humid environment. especially in the summer, and Jamie and I checked, was it 100 degrees there?

Yeah, it's current. I mean, we're getting closer to the dates, so the forecast is getting better. It's currently set to be a high of 85, low of 69. 69 is nice. No rain and, well, isolated thunderstorms the two days before.

That doesn't mean anything by the time it gets to June.

Yeah.

And is it June 11th? What is it?

It's on the 14th. 14th? 12th and 13th both have isolated thunderstorms.

12th and 13th and it's on the 14th. Oh, fuck.

And the one on Friday, it says considerable cloudiness and fog after midnight. I think the fights would be over by then probably.

Well, the fights are Sunday.

I'm just saying that means at night it's getting...

Yeah. Well, the thing is if it's the low 69, that's nice. So if it cools off by the time the main event starts or the last few fights, But the first few guys that get after it, they're gonna probably be fighting in the daytime. Yeah

You know, you never know they might just spray some chemtrails and change the weather

You know, yeah, they might never know. Oh, if anybody's gonna do it, it's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posts? that he's got like this whole drone army on the roof of the ballroom now oh no so you know they built what's up they will i mean it's not done yet oh it's not no oh well he posted pictures of the ai yeah well no i mean it's just a rendering oh that's all it is oh how far along is the ballroom

i think they're pretty far i'm gonna show you the picture that they posted but it's not

it's like a rendering of what it will oh that's fake yeah okay why would you tell people what you're gonna do well you're gonna be able to see that they can't hide it that's not what i saw i saw one that looked like it was during the daytime yeah obviously that's yeah that's what i saw that's

the one i saw so that's what it's gonna look like yeah drones are crazy bro drones fight missiles

and guns flying around on the top all controlled by AI that's crazy boy what could go wrong war

war is a whole nother whole nother thing these days yeah yeah it's spooky you ever seen some of that footage from Ukraine yeah drones is flying around bombing dudes just bombing dudes

just dropping down on guys and exploding and there's fucking hundreds of those videos now you get a one of those um instagram algorithms we watch a couple of them and then next thing you know they're getting recommended to you over and over yeah dude that's crazy um

two weeks ago the bar you know one day i'm talking talking about something with my buddy next thing you know it's all over my phone my feed i know that's crazy it's weird

we're just accepting the fact that our phone's listening to us all the time Yeah, you know what I got trapped in recently algorithm of schizophrenic people Dude, it's all crazy people that like one guy's like hi, I'm Joseph Wilson I am the legitimate president of the United States due to Constitutional reckoning like crazy stuff like crazy people this one lady this one lady is crazy She's like I forget what famous actor she was saying they're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina and like she's just completely insane and every day it's like some new accusation someone's after her someone's tapping their phone someone's communicating with her through her ceiling fan like yeah just but i don't know how instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic and keep sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again because i know right

well you're if you're watching them you're all at things you want to keep watching i understand but how does it know who's schizophrenic it must there's got to be there's and there's internal tags on every post right but isn't that nuts i don't know how it's but yeah how schizo got in

there but it is or whatever the word is the yeah i don't know what the word is but it knows these people are fucked up and so it's sending me all these crazy people like it's completely insane people one lady who thinks everybody's a man she thinks rosa park's secretly a man everyone's She's really a man. She's like pointing out like collarbones. Look at them. Look at this is a man. Kim Kardashian's a man Everybody's a man. It's fucking nuts man, and it's just schizophrenic people and I'm like, okay So Instagram must know these people are schizophrenic Because they're all like I'm telling you it's like three out of ten videos Instagram recommends me are ins or people that are completely crazy So it must know these people are crazy and it's just sending them my way

Yeah, same for me, dude. I was talking to my buddies, I don't know, something about like sardines or something. Next thing you know, I'm like, look at my phone. I'm like, dude, what the hell is all this shit about sardines? I know.

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Yeah, it's what it said. We probably saw the same one

Yeah I'm sure It's very recently that I saw it I didn't check the date on it though I could send it to you

Yeah I got

I think it's Yeah It's from February 16th Yes that's it that's the one

It's not showing up right here though

Want me to send it to you?

Yeah the thing I just had was like a Russian website

Click this no problems definitely there's another one like Brittany Griner that poor lady she did nine months they wanted to put her away forever yeah

didn't they have to exchange like some Russian arms dealer or something like that

the merchant of death guys responsible for thousands of people being dead so this is from Kim.com Palantir was allegedly hacked rather an AI agent was used to gain super user access and here's what the hackers allegedly found Peter Thiel and Alice Karp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale, massive scale. They have thousands of hours of transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance and Elon Musk. They have backdoored the devices, cars and jets of world leaders and accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bioweapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away. They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations. Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA, and all data from international clients is copied into a seat. So the problem is this is like a legend. Is there community notes on this at all? No. Really?

Just Kurt Metzger.

He's the number one post. When can we see these hacked materials, though? What are the hackers doing with it? If they aren't exposing the whole thing, then fuck them.

How does he know community? He posts a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not true. Predictions. Yeah.

Do you know his background? Do you know the story behind that guy?

Me or?

Yeah.

In general, yeah.

So his background, I first found out about him a long time ago. He's a very wealthy guy. He lives in New Zealand. and he ran a site was it a super uploader yeah like one of those uploads mega upload was that it and they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material and i think they were trying to they were trying to they were trying to get him out

of the country extradited on i think they still want to come back uh yeah fraud charges related It's on the screen to make it upload. He denies wrongdoing.

Hughes, U.S. authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood studios. 2018 New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower court's ruling Dotcom appeal to the Supreme Court of New Zealand, which ruled in 2020 that Dotcom could be extradited to the United States, but that he could challenge the decision through judicial review. His extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024. He's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order. He launched another cloud storage service called Mega, although he severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet Party. The party contested in the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the Mana movement and contested the 2017 general election independently, but failed to win any seats at either election. He was a famous guy. in the early days of the internet. Did you ever see those videos that he made, like these cartoons?

Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember, but I don't, yeah.

Yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons. What did he call it?

Internet party, moment of truth, extradition.

See if you can find Kim.com early animated videos.

He's big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here.

He should be. The Seth Rich one is wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just I don't understand why anybody doesn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he supposedly gave WikiLeaks all sorts of inside information on the Democratic Party about how they kept people out of the election, how they were running things. and then he winds up getting whacked and they're like no it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning they left his watch they left his wallet they left everything his phone they just killed him see if you can find his videos he has some crazy videos i want to say these are from like the 90s like late 90s or early 2000s he was uh that he i don't remember i don't even know what was doing but he was very wealthy he had this crazy house and his hot wife and he'd show videos of it and shit and i think this guy's just been persecuted because of that sight that he had and he's fucked now they just keep going after him i don't know if he's right about this palantir stuff so i probably shouldn't have been saying it but but you do know that like in worst case scenario a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time everyone's online yeah i mean they can they can see you now with wi-fi they know where you are in a building at any given time with the wi-fi in the building oh that's crazy crazy they use wi-fi and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house they know where you are in any given time because of the wi-fi so if they tap into your wi-fi they know where you are this boom there's targeted strike in the upper right bedroom it's a drone after you it's crazy it's really nuts man because this is this wasn't here it is this is from like this is old internet stuff this is a flash yeah 90s flash video yeah this is it give me some volume i'm surprised that even that sound it's gonna be a very crude sound yeah this is what he did I remember this so this was the 90s so this is the same guy it's a very interesting guy he's getting in a boat yeah

it's called Kim Kimball special agent yeah if it was made in the 90s this is 30 years ago he's you know, screwing around with internet graphics and...

He flies up and catches a helicopter. He lands on the ground. He's standing on top of Microsoft? What is he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back then.

No! No! No! Please don't shoot me!

That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates. What the fuck? It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill him. He just wrote Linux around him. So he got in trouble for these? Nah. Nah, not really. I mean, I think people just thought those were silly. He got in trouble for that mega upload site. So the way it used to work is, do you remember Napster?

Yeah.

Right. So Napster worked where you could take songs, you could upload them, and anybody could download these songs. The way Mega Upload worked on a lot of these upload sites is you could take a film and you could turn it into a digital file. Let's say you take like Avatar, turn it into a digital file and upload it. And people could then download it and watch it on their home entertainment system through the internet. Just download the file, plug an HDMI cord from a computer into the TV, and boom, you're watching movies. Yeah. And you don't have to pay anything. And the thing was, it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material. And I think his argument was like, yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm hosting this service. And they're like, well, this service is used to do illegal things. So you're in trouble. So it's like I don't know what the argument is there. I don't know who's right. Do you understand it, Jamie?

Yeah, you explained it, but I mean it's a Most people would go like copyright law, American copyright law only matters in America. I don't know if that's the argument he was making.

That's true too, right? Because he's in New Zealand.

And this site was hosted in Hong Kong. Yes, on January 20, 2012, they seized more than $300 million of his Hong Kong money. It's $40 million in American money. Damn, son. He denied any wrongdoing.

I wonder how he's earning money now.

i wonder if they took all his money or i mean he did they did craft that i just looked it up mega is a like a cloud service website now i don't know if he owns it or runs it um he's trying to do cryptocurrency stuff i'm sure he was big into bitcoin when it started he's probably doing okay

yeah i don't know what the story is but i'm kind of rooting for him he's a fun character online oh he's very fun online i don't know if he's right about the palantir stuff but forget about palantir we know that what's happening now in terms of you talking into your phone about sardines and then your phone showing you ads like there's they're definitely listening to something grok said it's unverified as of february oh so this was grok commenting on it kim.com's claims about a palantir hack and uh related allegations remain unverified major outlets like reuters bbc and new york times show no coverage palantir's site has no statements Some sources echo the post, but no independent evidence confirms it right, but you got to think if you know a dude who's Deeply connected into the hacker world. It's that guy Right, like yeah, I think he's the most public one. Yeah, he'd be the guy that would know some shit I wouldn't be surprised if it's not Palantir and I'm not accusing Palantir of anything but there's got to be at least one point in time there's going to be a corporation that has the power to do those things and that's what's going on with all this surveillance shit that people are missing i'm sure i'm sure there already is um you know they're already doing that you know yeah i mean a hundred percent if i was an evil person running some hackers corporation i would do it some especially if i thought i was right yeah doing the right thing i can imagine like

China probably has. Of course. You know. A hundred percent. I forgot what I was reading that someone got arrested. I think like some government official or something got arrested and admitted to being a spy. Oh, yeah. For China.

Well, yeah. Well, there was a mayor in California. Oh, yeah. In Arcadia, California. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a spy for China. She was the fucking mayor. Yeah. The mayor of a city was working for China.

Yeah, and admitted it.

Yeah. it's crazy oh china's playing a long game they they infiltrate universities they give money to universities they they fund programs they give money to research labs they uh sell cell phone towers at a discounted rate to the military and these dumb motherfuckers put them around where their military bases are yeah yeah i've had guys that are you know cia guys on the podcast tell me about that how dangerous it is that they've they bought farmland all around these military bases china has yeah what's up did you say something i thought you said something yeah that's crazy it's crazy that they are even allowed to do that like you imagine you you're in conflict with another country and they buy land right next to your house you're like hey yeah what are you doing forget about your house a fucking military base anybody buying any land around a military base should be thoroughly vetted it should be there should be different laws if you want to buy land around a military base it should be like no you know yeah background check for sure not just background check like you should be american citizen a and you should have like a legitimate verifiable reason for owning this land like you're a farmer or you're gonna put fucking windmills up there whatever you're gonna do it should make sense it shouldn't be like all you have to do is have money and you could buy land right next to a military base yeah where they're doing who knows

what yeah and you know china has like some of the top top uh you know um some of the the like you never know what they're watching yeah the technology oh their technology is off the charts

their drone technology is beyond ours and they they have like crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons oh yeah i've seen that fly them over the sky like thousands and thousands of drones and they make a dancing dragon in the sky like whoa so they're all coordinated but some sort of a computer program and they all work autonomously it's nuts man like their technology their cars are insane china's cars they have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in america yeah and they can't sell them here which i think is kind of crazy. I think that's kind of fun.

it's kind of i mean i guess we're in competition with china but like it should be survival of the fittest when it comes to cars like if you're making the best fucking cars and you happen to be in china they should be over here right you know yeah i mean it would suck if i was ford and these chinese cars were way better than anything that we're making here but everybody that i've talked to and i've talked to some guys that work for major automobile organizations and they went over to china and they're like oh my god we're fucked

like these cars are insane yeah yeah i mean just tesla alone yeah i know i know it's not china but i mean oh those cars are insane yeah they're pretty dope but they make them here and they

make them in china too they made a lot they were making a lot of them in china during the pandemic because the pandemic didn't really close things down in china the way it closed things down here but they're they have electric cars now that have like these insane suspensions they go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds they're nuts yeah they there's this dude that i follow online god what's his name forest auto reviews i'm trying to remember but he does these quick reviews and somehow or another he always gets these chinese cars i'll find his name but he gets you know you

No, but I don't think this is his channel, but I'm looking at the Xiaomi SU7. I can find his video if you want me to.

Yeah, these cars are nuts, man.

It looks like a Tesla, but...

Oh, that's the dude. It is? Yeah. What is his channel?

This isn't his channel, I don't think. Somebody else uploaded it? Maybe. I don't know.

Maybe. Maybe somebody else uploaded it. I think it's the same guy. Let me find it. I think it's Forrest Auto Review. No, that's not him. He's not that guy. Hold on.

this guy

yes Forrest Jones that's it so he keeps finding he keeps reviewing these just scroll down for his videos go to his video section

if you search you can just narrow it down more but it didn't really work one year ago a Tesla minivan China minivans

they have some crazy shit find find a good one i don't know if it's electric it's just a luxury car though yeah this is it this is electric look look at these things they're nuts

with this gorgeous speaker i also get two wireless charging pads with a fan to keep them cool i have this gorgeous drive mode selector i have cup holders right in here and i have a dash cam that can do this

oh that's crazy quick selfies for the blicky a big one i have built-in fragrances that slot

right here if i push this button i have more storage space and i can do this if i push the button on the side of my seat that'll fold down my armrests my seats are heated ventilated and massaging i have an area right down here for my phone have built-in sunscreen shades if i push this button my cup holder comes out and i can do this

this is 37 000 and these cars are not available no us

What if I want to watch a movie? That one's $37?

Is that one? I don't know. No, maybe I'm looking at the wrong video. That sounds like it would cost more than $37. It says luxury cars. Yeah. What car is that? Does it say? No, it doesn't say. It doesn't say in the description? No description has been added to this video. No. See, go over to the beginning and see what it says.

Inside, I get a moonroof, pillows on my headrest, these heated, ventilated, and massaging seats. Oh, okay. I get a passenger screen, a main...

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Yeah, they have, like, facial recognition and everything. That's crazy.

Yeah, you can't step out of line at all. They'll make you, turn you into a handbag. They'll fuck around over there.

Yeah.

You know, they have, do you know that bodies exhibit? Do you know what that is? Yeah. Like the dead bodies exhibit?

I think there's one in Vegas.

Exactly. they get their bodies most of them from china and they're yeah they're they're called like chinese i think it's undeclared bodies so like if you die within a certain amount of time if someone doesn't claim your body unclaimed bodies if someone doesn't claim your body within like 30 days they just can turn you into a statue wow well here's the problem with that in order to do this process where they turn you into a statue it has to take place within 48 hours of your death so there's no way they're waiting a month yeah so they have to start this process like pretty soon after you die and they have this process called plastination and they take the bodies and they basically strip all the fat from the body and they turn it into this plasticized statue of all your muscles and tendons and ligaments and so you're out there like playing basketball and like you could see like the rib cage and all the ligaments that was a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing or he worked for a company and he fucked up or he was banging someone's wife or he was doing something and they turned this dude into a statue and now he's at the luxor in vegas playing golf yeah for real we looked into it it's there's not not just me saying this there's a bunch of stories online about these different bodies and how they've found ones with bullet holes in them. They found one of them is crazy. So this lady was having an affair with a mayor in this town in China. And she was an online or a television broadcaster. She was like a news lady or something like that. And she was having an affair with the mayor. The wife finds out about it the lady goes missing she gets scrubbed from the internet turns out the lady was pregnant she was eight months pregnant she goes missing then all of a sudden this pregnant lady appears at the bodies exhibit with the baby inside of her same exact size same features everything as this lady the wife of the mayor who she was having an affair with the wife was the manager of the plastination factory where they turn everybody into statues damn damn and and these bodies

there's no skin on them no skin it gets even crazier years later she gets arrested for killing

another person she gets arrested for poisoning some english business man and then it goes to trial well the person who stood trial for her the person who stood was not her there's pictures of lady on the stand it's a different lady so she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail like paid their family off or something like that and she got free so this is all alleged by the way yeah all alleged but the you could see the video or the um the body is still exhibited the body of the pregnant lady so there's a pregnant lady and you see a cross section of her stomach where she's, like, holding onto her stomach, and you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady with an eight-month-old fetus inside of her body, that they find it, and then somehow or another they know it's cool, so you can just turn it into a statue. But you have to do that within 48 hours of someone's death. But no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense.

Yeah.

The whole thing is nuts. Some of them are people that, like, I'm going to die. I want to donate my body to this exhibit okay if you're crazy and that's what you want to do that's cool but that's not all those people some of those people are it's very sketchy circumstances see if you can find that image of the wonder how often or how many how many times that happened like

because wouldn't like the the pregnant uh body like they never investigated it the family wanted

to the family wanted to investigate they wouldn't let them exactly they were trying to do that but they wouldn't let them do it these people have What?

like obviously have immense power if she got someone allegedly got someone to stand in line and this is like in china this is in china so look at this this is the baby pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her and so the family looked at the face and they're like jesus christ

oh someone stole the fetus oh also i was digging there's another scandal that happened in 2024 with a bunch of corpses in China, too.

Well, there's a video where this investigative reporter visited one of these plastination factories and there was bodies that were laying down. There's a video of it. You can watch the video. These bodies are laying down. They have sheets over their head and they have their arms tied behind their back and the sheets are bloody. So it looks like they all got whacked and they're all at this plant getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as shit, man.

This body was... They just stole the fetus. Two women in L.A. stole it. Two women? This was 20 years ago. They probably stuffed it inside of their belly.

Look at him, Frank.

This is probably on my Instagram algorithm right now.

There's another scandal they had where over 4,000 bodies were in a corpse scheme, they said. Oh, my God. Where they were being sold... Families thought their family member was being cremated. Was not they were being sold into I was trying to find out what they were using. That's a lot of bodies Jesus Christ for bone grafting. Oh

Allogenic bone graft products. Oh, that's another thing. One of these schizophrenic ladies was telling me and that is true that A lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers So they take fat from cadavers and then they inject that fat in their ass To give them a BBL like no bullshit and Whitney Cummings. I told I sent it to Whitney. She's like, oh my god, it's literal dead ass Because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You're taking a dead person's fat and they're stuffing it in their ass cadaver fat transfer utilizing processed human donor fat That has become a major emerging alternative to traditional autologous fat transfers like traditional Brazilian butt lifts or BBLs and synthetic implants. How does it work? Instead of harvesting fat from your own body via liposuction, surgeons use donated human fat harvested via authorized tissue banks, allegedly. The fat is rigorously screened, sterilized, and processed to remove all the donor's DNA, cells, and genetic material. What remains is a structural clumpy butter.

So hot.

Clumpy butter ass is so hot. Matrix of collagen, proteins, and growth factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate volume and also acts as a biological Scaffold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it Deadass Actual deadass and women are doing this how see if you can find a video of him doing house I was thinking like how you don't want to they call it zombie filler oh it's so nasty that's so nasty how about you just do some squats you lazy bitch yeah but that's people like a real ass anyway the ass and the legs it has to match folks it has to match can't fake it it's like you ever see those dudes that they don't really have muscles but they get oil injected into their arms it's all weird

it's almost like an Indian dude

I saw this Brazilian dude He had it on his biceps He had it on his traps Giant traps Giant crazy shoulders Big tits Crazy And he's like flexing Doing all this stuff But it looks weird Because it's Your body It's like It doesn't fit It doesn't fit your body That's the same thing When a girl gets a Crazy fat ass And she's got these Toothpick legs Because she's lazy Yeah Like that doesn't fit your legs This is It looks like you're wearing a diaper This is crazy Don't do that

Yeah Man dude Commit to the process Women go to the extreme. I know. You know?

Well, the thing is, I think if you do just a little bit, just a little bit of dead ass, maybe it's nice. Yeah. You know, I bet there's girls that have done it that you go to the right doctor, like, this Beverly Hills dude, he's like, I got you. Just enough. You're just going to plump that sucker up just a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah, a little bit of dead ass. A little bit of just a touch, just a touch of dead ass.

that's pretty gross like for someone to put someone else's clumpy butter and it's fucking completely disgusting how do your body even react to that or how to like

well yeah not well and then to have all that sleep take out the DNA and all this other stuff what what if they don't what if that's bullshit what if the DNA is in there what if you start getting weird memories yeah weird memories from

ass tissue like weird nightmares photos here let's go well pull them up right here elderly male fresh cadaver underwent a layered dissection of all

So they're taking a fat from an elderly guy's face actual dead body Whoa, does it matter where the fat comes from? I guess not. I guess it's just fat So this is a dead guy and they're peeing. So who sold his body to some fucking laboratory?

Yeah, have the clumpy butter in this look at that in the upper right hand corner a whole crazy

So this is pre dead ass and post dead ass see that's not bad It's not bad, but that lady could have done that with the gym That lady could have done that which she didn't go crazy there That's just a little dead ass just a just a touch. That probably is good on the side if you turn it sideways

Does there any photos where they show this video there says one shot cost 20 grand? Let's see that guy

He looks like a demon

That's a false done. It falls down a weird weird path here. Oh my god

yeah i'm not showing those photos either it's disgusting so they're just sucking fat at a dead people i had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft on my acls i gotta they use a um the achilles tendon because the achilles tendon is thicker and stronger than the actual acl and they put it in my right knee it's never been a problem holy works great well from from your from your own from your own no no from a dead dude oh okay oh what's that that says uh gluteal

augmentation so that's butt right right it says fat grafting so that would be putting fat into

the butt oh where's that scar oh bro that scar is gigantic you can have this got a fork holding it open look how green everything looks in there oh that looks so nasty it looks like bad cheese That's disgusting. That looks like, you know when you go to see dry-aged meat and you pass by those nice steakhouse? They have the dry-aged meat container. So you're going to get your fat put in your ass or an implant, but then you have this massive scar.

I mean, these pictures are gnarly. That is another head. Look at the ear right there.

So that's where they're getting the fat.

How much fat do you have in your head?

Oh, well, that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection. So that's someone getting that done to their head.

Maybe it's like tightening up the skin.

Yeah, maybe, right? Like a filler.

Oh, yeah, there you go. Look, it says here.

Oh, she looks good. That actually looks good. So that's from her fat graph.

Sorry, I can't show these photos, guys.

You have to Google it. Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting. But if you look at, like, people's face when they get older, that's one of the things that happens is you lose collagen and fat in your face. And that does make sense that putting it in would be better. See, that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that. Go to the gym, lazy bitch. What is that one to the right of it, though? That one to the right? Yeah, like there. So she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that. But, again, go to the gym. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah, look at the rest of the body. Yeah, go to the gym. This is crazy. Questionable tattoo. Yeah, questionable choices. You get dead ass. You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt so that more people want to fuck you. Like, hey, find Jesus. Go find Jesus. Okay? If you are out there, I don't give a lot of advice, but this is my advice. If you're out there and you're thinking about getting dead people's fat pumped into your ass, you probably need Jesus.

yeah yeah i mean dbls are kind of going out of style man yeah you know i think naturals are coming back they should naturals are making a comeback yeah just work out like there's a lot

of ladies that have flat butts that they put in the time they put in the effort and now you're like damn you can do that too yeah anybody can do it's just the process yeah people don't like that process quick results exactly and they don't want to work for it they want ozempic and then they want dead ass they don't want to lose the weight like a nice combo they could put together now now they're saying and then put it back where you want to remember true a tide what is that called reddit true tide reddit true tide and dead ass they should have like a one-stop shop

yeah now they're saying uh well zempick eats up your bones oh yeah so definitely so everybody's

everybody's fucked who's been taking it well it's not just that it also kills your desire this is what's weird like people are falling out of love when they get on ozempic like they lose their desire really yeah the people lose ambition they lose desire they also lose addiction like people that are addicted to cigarettes people that are addicted to alcohol and gambling apparently ozempic helps that because you're basically killing desire like your your desire to go and smoke a cigarette your desire to have a drink yeah it's killed by ozempic yeah it also changes

your whole face right oh yeah eats up all your fat that's a problem yeah yeah that's a problem

especially for ladies as they get older like the more fat you have on your face the better you look like you when your skin gets real thin and starts draping over your bones like you don't that

doesn't look healthy yeah it looks like a problem you like they cut they just cut weight i know

Yeah, it's fucked. It's fucked that that's a part of our society now. And it's just preying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result. Because of all these ladies that wanted to do this instead, if they just went to a gym, started eating healthy, they would feel better. They would think better. Their body would look better. Everything would be better. And they wouldn't have to get dead ass.

yeah yeah it's just people being really self-conscious you know about themselves like i know a hot hot ass chicks that i'm like wait you take ozempic why like why oh just like a little you know i'm like you don't need it i think some women say there's a real benefit to

taking a micro dose after a certain age i was watching a video this lady's talking about how micro dosing um these glp ones is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age because it helps reduce inflammation. It does a bunch of different things to them. But I don't know.

Do you gain the weight? Say if there's people that are just, oh, I'm just going to do it, like really overweight people, who obviously do that struggle with diet and working out. When they get off, do they gain all the weight back like everything else?

Most likely, if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue is going to return.

Because that, like, shrinks your stomach or something, right?

Yeah, well, it does, but it's basically you're starving yourself. Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheeseburger, right? It's because your stomach shrank because you weren't eating much. That's kind of the same thing that happens with Ozempic. I mean, what happens to them when people say, oh, my God, it makes you lose bone mass. It makes you lose muscle mass. Right, but so does starving yourself. That's one of the things that happens when people, they go on these crash diets. They go, I'm just 30 pounds overweight. I'm just not going to eat. Okay, well, your body's going to find food somewhere, so it's going to eat itself. And, yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also going to eat muscle tissue. It's also going to eat bone tissue. Your body's going to consume itself to survive, which is crazy. So these things that you're getting, these side effects of, like, bone loss and muscle loss, that's what would happen if you just stopped eating, too. It's your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein. You weren't growing any muscles.

Yeah.

Your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs, so it's just shrinking. So retitrutide, is that how you say it? I believe so, yeah. So that, the difference between this retitrutide, this one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss, but you don't lose the muscle loss. It's not the same thing.

I want to show you a picture of what I look like, bro. Oh, yeah, please do. It was horrible.

You got my number. Send it to me, and I'll send it to Jamie. All right. if um it's shocking bro holy hell bro if this reddit two tide am I saying it right reddit true tide reddit two tide whatever it is this one they think is going to be incredible because this one is going to give you all the fat loss but none of the muscle loss none of the bone density loss and I wonder if it's going to be the same for like desire and whether it's going to fuck with addictions and all those other things too because I was reading this thing where employers are they're getting upset at people taking GLP-1s because it changes their ambition.

I saw it too. I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it, and I can't find it. And it's not that it is, but it makes me wonder if it's like propaganda against it from the people who are selling the good stuff now. They don't want to get replaced.

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Are people working?

Yeah.

Habits change.

Do – are there employers who are having a problem with their employees taking GLP-1s because it affects their –

work or ambition i think what they were saying was ambition it's making people less ambitious which kind of makes sense because i think a lot of people their ambition is probably an addiction they're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things here it goes yes but the main employer issues with glp ones today are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity, not a clearly documented widespread loss of work

ambition. I'd be the same thing, kind of, probably.

Yeah, productivity, sure, if you're not as ambitious. But attendance is, unless you're injured, you're hurt. That was fine. You might just

show up. You might be like, I don't even feel like going.

Right, right. So side effects and performance. Common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, plus headaches and fatigue can result in comfort, increased absenteeism, and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanaged. Legal and HR complexity, employers must balance cost control with ADA, HIPAA, and non-discrimination rules when deciding coverage and when asked about employee medication use. Evidence of motivation and ambition. There are anecdotal stories, media and personal accounts of people feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP-1s, But these are not yet backed by large workplace-specific studies. So employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue. But I bet they're thinking about it. Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it. I mean, it makes sense. Did you find it? I'm having a sentiment. Okay. What did you look like right when you got out? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy, dude. I can't find it right now. I'm having someone send it to me, though. Okay. No worries. i'm kind of embarrassed to show you but i gotta i gotta see this because if you see me now i'm

like holy hell bro yeah crazy good before and after is great yeah the people that are really brave are the ones that say i'm gonna get in shape so here's what i look like right now and they post that on the internet like whoa that's that's crazy yeah but that's also it's a good way to hold yourself accountable you know yeah you want a bunch of people to shit on you fat like fat shaming works i know it's not nice people don't like it but when someone calls you a fat fuck and you're like oh man you start thinking and you go to work yeah man yeah a little

bit of hard work you know a little bit of hard work get it you know well listen if there's a way

where massively obese people that are dying can get healthy and if it's a glp1 i'm all for it but for everybody else just get to work and you'll you'll you'll respect yourself so much better like right now like you you could look in the mirror and go damn i look so much better than i did when i got out of jail yeah because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way right if you got discouraged when you were saying like i don't know if i'm going to be able to do this i have no endurance i don't know if it's ever going to come back a lot of people would just quit right there yeah and if you quit right there you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going and that's the that's the case with everybody that's at a bad place right now just go to work go to work write it down go to work put it together yeah and yeah man

i think it just makes you that much like uh stronger and and like aside from the work but like internally 100 you know yeah value yourself so much more and health absolutely you know it's

also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things if you get through something difficult you realize like oh i've been here like the next time some fucked up shit happens to you like i've been here before i know it sucks right now but i'm gonna just trust this process exactly

keep on trucking so right when i when i got back to work and i was like man i'm in the phase right now where it it sucks you know like waking up sore as hell i remember the first time i did leg day

i couldn't i couldn't even fucking walk dude did you have somebody walking you through it like how to do it correctly where you don't overdo it in the beginning because like did you work with a

trainer or anybody um yeah yeah uh like over at the pi there so when we first got started we obviously didn't want to like because i was so eager to just get back in shape and and it was it was tough you know but that's like one of the things that that uh like while running why like i like i love to run and is it's like one of those things where like a lot of people they reach to with a point where they get tired and then they just stop you know that they'll just quit you know and like you got to push yourself more and more harder and more harder next thing you know you catch a second wind and you know you're you're jamming but when i first

first started i swear dude like i would like so when i first got out my my oldest son he he wrestles for high school um and he was like oh you're gonna wrestle you know right you want to wrestle because like you know he knew i was out of shape i'm like oh man he might you might get me you know so in my mind i'm like all right i got one good one good takedown in me and right and and yeah sure enough um we wrestled and then shot for that takedown got the takedown and got up, and now I'm just like, whoa, whoa. And, like, he just ragdolled me after that. He just ragdolled me, man. And then actually a couple days ago I got back from Vegas, and I hit him up. I was like, what's up now? You know, like, what's up now? And, yeah, man, from that first workout to this one, you know, we made it through a whole workout, you know. it's such a good feeling because i got really like really discouraged bro i'm not even gonna lie and there was points where i was like got real emotional i was like dude how am i this tired like this is crazy you know and then i just always told myself like dude you've made it through so much in your life that you could come back and you can bounce back for this so that's this whole this whole process has been like to me it's just like a comeback comeback comeback story you know

of course yeah and it's just about trusting that process it's just so hard when you used to be at one point and now you're way way way below that and you got to build back up to get to where you used to be you know but yeah that's that's kind of a blessing there's a blessing in that because you realize like after it's over it's like wow i did it i did it i pushed through all that bullshit i got my body back in shape again i'm back like when you get done with your camp when you're peaking and on that last week you're gonna feel so good yeah man honestly i feel great now and and

like i feel like i've i've done such a great job and and actually recovering more doing like a lot more recovery stuff and i've been i've been incorporated that so much and before i should just go go go and like now like i take the time to recover and and um i've been i've been taking this stuff from regenerate um what is that uh regenerate is uh uh like and and what is it nad

or something like that okay yeah stuff like that and so it's nmn so it's like a precursor to nad yeah uh the ufc provides it yeah okay so that means it's third party tested

regenerate hmm does that um who who makes that stuff do you know um i know i know that that they're they're definitely ufc uh approved approved and like i think they might even sponsor

thorn is the main supplement company that you that the ufc uses right yeah because they're

all third-party tested it's like safe for sport yeah the uh yeah it's um true shield certified products for professional athletes and uh yeah i started i started taking that like about two two fights ago and yeah i feel great i guess it's like nad like some kind of anti-aging or something

like that and stuff yeah it's uh it basically lengthens your telomeres and it is uh it sort of brings your body back to like a level of recovery that it had when it was younger allegedly there's a lot of there's a lot of people that take iv nad and they take um nad and um you know you can get it in the subcutaneous um what's it called subcutaneous uh under the fat injections they do it that way too yeah yeah but um but i think some of the best ways is actually nmn that stuff because it what it does is it it's like a precursor and your body just makes more nad that way yeah I take it yeah yeah it works I take it before I go to bed every night you know Andrew Huberman was telling me about it he was saying it he noticed that when he really felt like it was working one of the things that he noticed was that his fingernails were growing quicker and that's the same thing with me I texted him the other day I go this is crazy like my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to I think it's because of that yeah that's

crazy I just noticed that too if I may have been going crazy too yeah I think

your body's ability to regenerate you know and and heal and like for fighters like there's nothing more important than your ability to recover from a hard workout so you can get to another one

yeah and um i spent a lot of time like in hyperbaric hyperbaric chamber and now there's this thing um like this pimp pimp pmf pmf pmf p yeah

PMF or something like that uh-huh, and it's like actual like a whole bed and just like right just kicks up like like just Some like electric little pulses mm-hmm, and I'll be taking naps on that thing So some of the stuff I don't even know what it does and I was like always for recovery

I'll do it, you know hyperbaric works and it works in the same way that NAD and NMN work in that it lengthens your telomere. So I did do this study out of a A university in Israel, I believe it was, where they put people on a protocol of, for 90 days, they did 60, 90-minute sessions at a hyperbaric chamber. And they showed that their telomere increase was equal to a 20-year difference in biological age. So it makes your cells younger because you're infusing them with energy. You're infusing them with oxygen. Every time I do it, when I do it for, like, a series of it, when I get, like, real consistent with it, when I have the time, I always feel better. I'm always like, why don't I do this all the time?

Yeah. Yeah, I'm in there, like, four or five times a week.

That's huge. That is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know, because it makes your body react like a young body does, you know?

Yeah, so I'm over here racing against the clock, man, so I'm, like, trying to do everything possible for my body just to recover from these hard-ass workouts you know how long was it after you got out before you started sparring again um i recently just started sparring about three weeks ago so you gave yourself yeah so what i wanted to do was was definitely get in shape get get get in good enough shape to like because if you go to extreme and you're out of shape they're gonna you're gonna get killed yeah they're gonna it's gonna be very demoralizing yeah yeah so i i definitely wanted to to get my my get myself in good enough shape so like this whole time i've been doing like a whole bunch of like weight lifting stuff and and technical stuff and and a lot of snc stuff and and and strength and conditioning just getting your body back and yeah again yeah so just recently i'm like I feel I feel I feel good enough to to to spar and and um yeah I have pretty hard sparring

sessions well you were a guy that was known for your endurance before you know you're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much you know so it's like and you always push a good pace too so for you to get back to where you used to be and have that same style like you have to be in

shape first yeah yeah yeah i feel like i've been getting getting ready just to start getting ready

you know right right right yeah do you wish you had more time than august or do you think it's a

good enough time period i think it's a good enough time especially like the way i feel now and you have two months to go yeah and i have like another eight eight and a half weeks eight nine weeks

something like that that's nice have you been to serbia before never been i've been watching videos

of, like, the Serbian crowd, like, in basketball. Yeah, it's wild.

Bro. That shit is wild. Those crowds are crazy.

So in my mind, that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting, like, to be chanting and crazy. They might be.

Have they had a UFC in Serbia before?

This is the first one.

Whoa.

First UFC in Serbia.

We've played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times. Here we go. There's an outside one. There's an outside one. They got fires and shit.

What I don't hear anything I don't yeah, so I had looked I had to look this up because I'm only these people

They treat it like war yes, and the audiences they chant like they're like a war is going on Yeah in the middle of a basketball game And you know all these Serbians that are coming over and dominating an American basketball guess why?

why yeah yeah so tough motherfuckers that's originally why i had looked this up a long time ago and um was it nikola yokich yokich one of the top nba players uh and i was like when i when i uh when i found fanboy over like and i love basketball basketball is like one of my favorite sports um i always like look into like the background of the basketball player where he came from and i had already seen the serbian basketball crowds like man i'd be dope to go to like a a basketball game in serbia you know yeah i'd be careful what i ate and drank you know i'm

saying yeah going over there to fight their main dude in the main event yeah yeah that's crazy

yeah in my mind i'm like dude that's that's crazy man it's like especially they've never had a fight

over there before never had a ufc over there i'm not accusing the serbians of doing it might be a few unscrupulous gamblers a few people yeah so look at this look at here we go this is a basketball game

i mean they got war drums they got war drums they're pounding

bro this is viking shit yeah i love it so this is what this is what i'm expecting when i love it i love it i want to go see a basketball game especially fighting their their guy oh yeah

it's gonna be nuts yeah for sure but it's gonna be exciting it's gonna be so weird for you just to when they shut that cage like oh my god i'm back yeah i was in jail in mexico i was in a different kind of cage yeah like a way less preferable cage yeah wild man what a crazy

fucking story you know yeah man and and i get to um you know tell a whole keep the story going you

know make it even make it even better yeah does it does it piss you off because like you had so much momentum after beating kevin holland like that was a big victory for you yeah it couldn't have happened out of at the worst time man i know because kevin's a tough guy and a tricky guy and that was a welterweight fight right yeah and fighting him at welterweight that's where he's at his best you know kevin at welterweight is really that's where he belongs yeah for you to beat him

that's huge yeah dude and he's such a tricky guy too man yeah it was an amazing fight dude i hadn't I don't think I've had a fight like that in my career where there was so much going on. I was almost, I dropped him in the second, you know, I almost blew my fucking gas tank trying to finish him. And then come the third round, he drops me and almost finishes me and I bounce back and then end up on top. It's like those are the fights that I train for, bro. In my mind, that's what I'm training for, you know. and it couldn't have worked out that fight was amazing that's my third time being scheduled to fight him and finally happened and it was an amazing fight it was everything I expected it to be and I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well dude's got a couple knockouts looks pretty good he's a very skillful guy

Eros Medich is no joke he's very good

Yeah, it's gonna be a good fight. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, I'm gonna bring it, you know, I'm sure I'm

Bring that you always do yeah, but for that man, it's gonna be so emotional for you like having that moment like Realize that you're fully all the way back Yeah, I can't imagine. Yeah, man. What is the craziest shit you saw in jail in Mexico?

The craziest shit I saw in jail in Mexico

nothing really too crazy man really yeah i would imagine tijuana jail is pretty fucking crazy

was it because you were in sort of a protected area no to be honest with you the the area i was in was kind of like it's like the vip section bro it was like right everybody was like they're like someone with money or like you know what we paid to be there you know i wasn't like very it wasn't like that protected it was kind of dangerous in a sense where like at night all the cell doors are open you know so it's kind of like a little little dangerous on that sketchy yeah a little

sketchy nobody got killed or anything while you were there not on my not in my section but in

other sections of the jail people got killed yeah um how many in my since the whole time i was there like I'd say like two or three you know but um I don't know the craziest thing I saw in jail probably probably some of this I bought an ounce of weed you bought an ounce of weed that was the last thing I would buy if I was in jail for weed I bought an ounce of weed were you worried about they're gonna piss test you or anything yeah no no well the guards brought it in so I figured like oh my god I might be in trouble for this

if the guards are bringing it that's crazy the guard sold you weed that is wild how much is an

ounce of weed in mexico in jail about 300 it's crazy bro you could you could pay for girls to come in bro really yeah they have like a a menu shut the fuck up yeah and you can't get a steak

i'll be like keep the ladies can you get me a ribeye yeah dude we had a we had a barbecue one

time yeah yeah we had we had a a fucking um we literally had like a barbecue it was like well not on a grill but when i first got there we had like these hot these hot plates and and the leader uh would always like do stuff for the whole tier you know like he'll always like oh today we you know like every once in a while say like once or twice a week maybe um nah not once or twice a week i say like once or twice maybe uh and every couple weeks like we'll get like pizza like the order pizzas and yeah dude and and and for like i think it was like a thousand five hundred the you could like order a chick bro like a thousand like a thousand bucks for like a thousand five hundred something like that and they'll put you in the conjugal in the conjugal rooms with some random chick and you could you know have your time order for like three four hours something like that so you could

basically if you have money and influence you could kind of do anything in there yeah i mean

if you got if you got money you'll you'll be okay i guess yeah as okay as you're gonna be in a tijuana of jail yeah but i mean you're still locked in a cell i mean we would only go we only get um two days of yard for one one and a hour and a half you know an hour and a half and the whole time i spent it running wow trying to run trying to keep my my cardio up and it was crazy dude because i was like the only dude out there like working out you know and and honestly by the time i left i had everybody like working out running or or like doing some kind of like it was it was crazy how how i i uh my just me working out and doing like my daily thing just like affected other people you know like sure yeah i was like how i remember like i would have like i would come out on the tier and um i'll be like doing doing workouts with with dudes right there you know and like i said there's a couple dudes in there that are some dogs you know and uh yeah hopefully hopefully i don't know if if they do get out you know can they contact you if they get out do you have their information yeah i'm still in contact with them that's cool hopefully you get them set

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no no i don't know but oh my god this picture's crazy yeah when uh stuff like that happens like there's obviously like you hear because because um oh you know what lot of dudes were overdosing in there really yeah from fentanyl i think so bro a lot of dudes were in there like doing heroin and stuff yeah yeah yeah that picture's crazy though huh it is crazy yeah and then like to it's crazy dude it's crazy how how i've how i've bounced back from there it is wow you look so thin yeah dude just malnourishment at its finest bro oh my god

yeah you look like a dude who's just getting out of prison that's what you look like

yeah so that's the first what do you got a burrito there uh some tacos so that's like right after i had the burger i only took like two bites of those tacos like yo i'm full i'm imagine your

stomach must have been super shrunk but yeah you could see where you lost all your muscle mass

yeah yeah yeah so to bounce back from that and to be to you know be in decent shape right now

and how many guys died of overdose while you're there about three or four of them damn so you could kind of get anything you want really in jail yeah any kind of drug could you get steroids

uh i don't think so i try to get protein protein powder yeah yeah some protein powder but we never

it was never able to happen that's crazy they get your heroin no problem yeah protein powder oh it's kind of an issue yeah that's ridiculous that's crazy yeah i had i had turned myself into

like a little gym man i was like just trying to trying to stay busy man i always told myself like man there's for some this is there's got to be some way that is gonna just gonna work out for me you know and you know i ended up i ended up having to you know pay a nice amount of money you know to be here to be here today is a lot bro i'm sure we'll talk about that later but i'm

listen i'm glad you got out you know i i had only heard about it um maybe a few months ago i'd heard about it like i want to say three four months ago because someone had asked where you were like you know someone's saying you know who we haven't seen in a while is d-rod and then someone said dude i heard he's locked up in tijuana and i was like oh no like what a fucking hat like that could be it forever you hear someone's locked up in a mexican jail like that could be it forever yeah never hear from you again yeah man uh i'm so happy to be out dude i can only imagine yeah i can only imagine i mean listen it's you don't appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain unfortunately that's how people operate you know you get real accustomed to things being great and then you don't feel good about it anymore you need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes just a little bit of a wake-up call to let you realize like you should be so happy and so thankful that you get to experience this life especially the way you're experiencing it i mean what a dream to go from being a guy who's in and out of jail fucking up your whole life to being a top 15 ufc welterweight contender and arguably one of the toughest divisions in the sport if not the toughest i mean the ufc welterweight division is fucking crazy yeah you got carlos protest you got sean brady you got morales you know yeah dude

and before i got arrested we we were i was gonna fight protest wow i would have fought him in brazil whoo yeah that would have been wild yeah dude and yeah i mean it's crazy to see like how the division has changed like right now the top five dudes are it's ian gary protest morales uh makachev's champion and it's completely top completely like different now from from from when i when i got arrested did you see the uh jdm protest fight uh no i wasn't able to see

that protest looks so good he's he's so clever that's a tricky striker man and he's so long so long for the weight class it's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall you know what I mean like his arms and legs are so long he's so slick yeah when I um when I first

got released um we were we were planning to fight Leon Edwards yeah but um I think it would have been July 11th and that would have been way too it would have been too soon you know but I mean the August fights a couple weeks after that but you know that's a big factor though those couple

weeks when you're dealing with like your body recovering from what you've been through does that's

august sounds right july sounds early yeah yeah so now i'm gonna i'm gonna be ready bro i'm gonna be in super good shape um and and i just i just trust all the work that's ahead of me all the work that i have lined up and and and all the recovery and and just just it's like like like i said man like just appreciating everything you know my like my life bro i've been out of jail before and no one ever gave a fuck you know like now i'm out and i have these amazing opportunities

and i'm sitting here talking to you bro well it's crazy and more importantly you got a big fight coming up so that's very exciting i'm very happy for you brother hell yeah man i can't imagine what you went through i can't imagine what it felt like wondering if you're ever going to get out you know and thank god you had the resources and you knew the right people and yeah they figured out i do it and turn you into a mexican yeah that dual citizenship that's wild yeah well i can't wait to hear all about it off air but uh congratulations on getting out i look forward to your fight i'm really pumped i'm really pumped for you i'm very happy very happy you're out yeah man biggest fight

of my life coming up man i'm just embracing all the work and just everything bro just everything

i'm living the whole process well i can't wait to see the fight so congratulations i know the people are rooting for you so thank you for being here man it was a lot of fun thanks for having me my pleasure my pleasure all right