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#995: Perception Management With Greg Carlwood
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#995: Perception Management With Greg Carlwood

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May 29, 2026 | 02:01:52 | Comedy | Explicit

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On the latest episode of Tin Foil Hat, Sam welcomes back Greg Carlwood of The Higherside Chats for a wild conversation covering the death and legacy of Gordon White, "The Great Tick-Spiracy," Bill Gates theories, Alpha-Gal syndrome, and fears surrounding engineered bio-events. The guys also dive into looming "Supply Shock 2027" scenarios tied to the Strait of Hormuz, Bob Greenyer and the Brotherhood of Sacred Math, and how the growing parallel economy could become an "abundance engine" for people looking to build outside collapsing systems. Please subscribe to the new Tin Foil Hat youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TinFoilHatYoutube Sam Tripoli's 5th Crowd Work Special "Hero Live From Batavia" Drops May 2nd On Youtube.com/SamTripoliComedy Grab your copy of the 2nd issue of the Chaos Twins now and join the Army Of Chaos: https://bit.ly/415fDfY Check out Sam "DoomScrollin with Sam Tripoli and Midnight Mike" Every Tuesday At 4pm pst on Youtube, X Twitter, Rumble and Rokfin! Join the WolfPack at Wise Wolf Gold and Silver and start hedging your financial position by investing in precious metals now! Go to https://www.samtripoli.gold/ and use the promo code "TinFoil" and we thank Tony for supporting our show. Grab Tickets To Sam Tripoli's Live Shows At SamTripoli.com : Costa Mesa, Ca: 5/28 La Jolla, Ca: 5/29-5/30 Albuquerque, NM: 6/12-6/13 Austin, TX: 6/18 Miami, Fl: 7/31-8/1 Lawerence, KS: 9/17-9/19 Tulsa, OK: 10/9-10/10 Dallsa, Tx: Nov 7th (TrutherCon) Austin, TX: Dec 11th-13th Please check out Word War Debate and the WordWarDebate Contenders Series: https://wordwardebate.com Please check Greg Carlwood's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/HighersideChats Website: https://www.thehighersidechats.com Twitter: https://x.com/HighersideChats Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/highersidechats Please check out Sam Tripoli's internet: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/samtripoli Sam Tripoli's Stand Up Youtube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@SamTripoliComedy Sam Tripoli's Comedy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolicomedy/%20P Sam Tripoli's Podcast Clip Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samtripolispodcastclips/ Please support our sponsors: HIMs: When thinning starts, it's not just your hair that takes a hit — it can change how you feel day in, day out. Hims makes it simple to take control of hair regrowth with personalized care that fits your life. For simple, online access to personalized and affordable care for Hair Loss, ED, Weight Loss, and more, visit Hims dot com slash TINFOILHAT.That's Hims dot com slash TINFOILHAT for your free online visit. Taskrabbit: Taskrabbit connects you with trusted local Taskers for moving, furniture assembly, home repairs, yard work, mounting, and more. Easily find help based on price, skills, availability, and reviews. Get $15 off your first task with promo code TINFOIL on the Taskrabbit app or at Taskrabbit dot com. Book today before Taskers fill up! StoryWorthy: Most Father's Day gifts end up forgotten in a drawer, but Storyworth gives Dad something meaningful that lasts forever. Each week, he gets a question about his life and can answer by email, voice recording, or even a guided phone call — no apps or tech headaches. After a year, Storyworth turns his memories, stories, and photos into a beautiful hardcover book your family will treasure for generations. Give Dad a gift that captures who he really is and save up to $20 right now at STORYWORTH dot com slash tinfoil.
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00:00:00 - 00:00:23 | Speaker 1:

This year we're eating 2025's food but in 2027 there's not going to be nearly as much food as there was because the Strait of Hormuz crisis was strategically engineered to happen right during harvest season. Many farmers did not have the diesel to actually farm their crops so they watched acres of crops just die and that's the food we're supposed to eat next year in the grocery

00:00:23 - 00:00:42 | Speaker 2:

store tinfoil hat oh what the fuck are you guys even talking about global controls will have to be imposed and a world governing body will be created to enforce them welcome to tinfoil hat we go deep homeboy

00:00:42 - 00:01:12 | Speaker 3:

eric open your mic drink from the fountain of knowledge there's lizard people everywhere That's some interdimensional shit. Wake up, Aaron. This is only the beginning. Dude, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind blown? Revolution will be podcasted.

00:01:14 - 00:02:08 | Speaker 4:

Alright, welcome to Tim Fall Hat live from the Wise Wolf Gold and Silver Studios. That's right, just go to SamEEE.Gold. Use the promo code TimFoyle and you too can get in on the Precious Metals game for as little as $50 a month. We've been telling you to get in the Precious Metals. You guys should be doing it. They're just printing us into oblivion. And it's going to be interesting to see how Precious Metals work in a digital era of digital money. But anyways, enough of that. Very excited to have our next guest on. uh i give him all the credit in the world as being one of the ogs of this shit of uh this wonderful thing that we do called conspiracy content um him and uh what is the other one i was talking about uh that we talked about recently anyways so he's one of the ogs of it very excited to have a mom please welcome the one only from higher side chats greg carlwood how

00:02:08 - 00:02:21 | Speaker 1:

are you greg hey what's happening man uh six out of ten how are you yeah hey dude six out 10 ain't bad doc yeah i mean ain't bad with a worldly perspective that is pretty true um greg

00:02:21 - 00:02:26 | Speaker 4:

for those who might live under a rock and not know who you are can you tell us a little bit

00:02:26 - 00:02:52 | Speaker 1:

about yourself and where our listeners can find you uh well i'm just a man whose intentions are good and uh you know one of the question askers as they say but i've been doing a interview-based podcast in the conspiracy space since 2010 going on 16 years now doing podcasts about as long as as anybody and that's what i do who is the higher side chats.com who's the original vj on mtv what's

00:02:52 - 00:03:04 | Speaker 4:

his name adam curry adam curry show what is that called again sorry adam no agenda no agenda you and no agenda the ogs dude been doing this for a long ass time yeah and especially in the conspiracy

00:03:04 - 00:03:36 | Speaker 1:

space at the time i was paying a lot of attention to red ice radio and alex jones and coast to coast to coast am and i thought coast to coast am had way too many ads and alex jones never let his guests talk so i was like if i just don't do those two things i think i can do half as good as these guys and uh red ice decided they were gonna go alt-right like they went from outside of uh you know non-partisan totally thinking everything's corrupt to we are an alt-right show they say it in their intro and it's like okay more for me then and uh so then i was the only one for a little

00:03:36 - 00:03:52 | Speaker 4:

a while and now we're a dime a dozen so let me ask you something was that an a terrestrial radio that you were on and then you started your own podcast or was that a podcast uh network you were on and then you said i'm just gonna go do my own thing no i mean i've never done a network i've

00:03:52 - 00:04:08 | Speaker 1:

always just it's just been me and a microphone and i've been through some occasional co-hosts but no one had the real dedication so everybody fell off and they fell off before i made money thank god and then i so no one could say i owe him anything you know so i got the whole bag

00:04:08 - 00:04:22 | Speaker 4:

that's why i've indentured service they have no they're slaves to the show um yeah i mean it's a crazy journey because i'm sure what you were talking about at the beginning of what could

00:04:22 - 00:05:58 | Speaker 1:

be coming is here and yeah it's great it's crazy it is and i actually remember i think the first time i was on your show was 2016 or 2015 it was during the first trump running election cycle and i remember we were talking about it and just the prospect that trump was courting for the first time ever the conspiracy-minded person i mean that had never really happened in an election and we were speculating on how it would go and how it could end up changing the culture and man now we're on the other side of that and it's just like insane but i miss the old days of conspiracy where you'd go to a conference and it's really just a fringe counterculture of people who are in it for the love of the truth and curiosity and it's sponsored by like a crystal company and a guy who makes copper pyramids and everybody's selling their DVDs and now it's just like now it is like I guess it's just a genre of podcasting and if you don't know what to do you can either start a comedy podcast or a conspiracy podcast or both but it just seems like now with the way the internet is all about just eyeballs and the attention economy you'll have people that are putting out stuff like what's the big conspiracy behind trees and it's like none of this is actionable anymore you know it used to kind of i don't know it used to feel like it meant something and went a little deeper and now it's like what's the most wild idea you have rather than what is the core truth of a thing

00:05:58 - 00:07:07 | Speaker 2:

yeah i mean uh you know i'm in december the show will be 10 years old you know and to be honest with you you were the first of let i would say real guests we had okay and what i mean by that is like the show started as i just want to talk comedians about conspiracies and then we had this off the grid ryan guy who's a good friend of mine i haven't heard from him in years i don't know where he is or what he's doing and i hope he's okay and happy um but you know i go hey man you help me book this thing so i started booking and he you know you you were the because you know joey diaz would come on and you know one of the big first shows was duncan trussell and doug stanhope so it was like talking conspiracies with comedians and then you came on and it kind of kick-started the show into something a little more serious which is now it is it's like news for people and you know we do say we are the training wheels i say it all the time the training wheels we get to your guys's shows or no agenda shows you know the the the shallow end of the

00:07:07 - 00:07:51 | Speaker 1:

pool i always say it's like you know you know what's really funny is i had a similar start i didn't know how to do it and i was talking to local san diego comics about conspiracy and i had duncan on and i had joey diaz on and ari i interviewed ari shafir in my car in the parking lot of the la jolla comedy store with my laptop on the dashboard and uh that's how gorilla we were back then and i that that's how i started and then when i got michael to sorry on i was like oh now here is some meat and i just was like you know instead of talking to people who are funny about stuff they don't really know anything about why don't i just forget the funny part and talk about the talk to the people directly who have the information and yeah it's been great but very

00:07:51 - 00:09:18 | Speaker 2:

similar start yeah it's how it starts one thing and ends another way is always interesting uh you brought you know you've been doing it since when did you say 2010 um you know i think we'll look back those who are blessed enough to live through it how wild and amazing around 2015 was like the internet was just amazing and everyone was you know hillary hadn't run yet well she's running and she hadn't gotten kneecapped by the internet and her just push to kind of bring in censorship or maybe that was always the plan but you know like in 2015 you could find any doc you wanted on on youtube and you know podcasts were everywhere reddit was pure fire the reddit conspiracy reddit was pure fire dude yeah and then the lizards came in and they shut everything down and and you know i know that everyone thinks and i don't know about you you know greg i'm gonna be honest with you i go and i look at like your earlier shows and this is very much about tim fall hat as well you can't find them because i took them all down in this hopes of saving this channel you know but i look back at some of your old episodes and the numbers you were getting on that and the numbers you're getting now and your numbers are great that's not me saying you're not doing well you're doing great but it's just like you know we're talking like hundreds of thousands

00:09:18 - 00:09:43 | Speaker 1:

of views yes you know and you can't offend me by the way like let's not even uh tiptoe around stuff but like my channel now so my show is mainly audio only and for the i've only done video the last year so i'm playing catch up on that i was late to that game but still the audience is 90 audio But if you look at my YouTube channel, it's in shambles. I got 100,000 subscribers, but I can't barely get 10,000 views.

00:09:43 - 00:09:59 | Speaker 2:

So there were no, I could have sworn I saw, because I texted you about it, that when I went back to the early, early years of your show, I thought you had episodes on there and I thought I saw them get hundreds of thousands of views. Was I wrong?

00:09:59 - 00:10:00 | Unknown:

No.

00:10:00 - 00:11:33 | Speaker 1:

on that no you're right but they were just audio episodes with a static screen or maybe they were a clip from when we did a live show together like the the one with eddie bravo arguing with the guy in the audience the earth scientist as a clip that's got triple digits on my channel but part of it is my fault because when youtube started like slapping me on the wrist and putting me in timeout and giving me two strikes and not letting me post for 90 days like it became really hard to be consistent so i stopped posting there and then i i kind of did a bait and switch on people which wasn't really the move but i would make a show and i would post it like it looked like an episode and then i'd say hey if you want to hear this you got to go to my website because youtube's fucking with me so people would click it probably got pissed and then i stopped posting there for several years now that i'm doing video i'm trying to get it back so i part of it is my fault but it only happened because of the censorship if they would have never fucked with me i would have never done anything but now i think yeah it's probably algorithmically suppressed and all that for sure it's fine we do what we do it's why i've always maintained my own website and encouraged people to go there specifically because no one can really you know knock on wood get to me there obviously we have pain points with our payment processors and this and that but i just couldn't ever be in the youtube ecosystem and let it and consider it part of my reliable income that was never going to work but it seems like they've taken their foot off the censorship gas a little bit i think that's because new new channels but i think you probably fall

00:11:33 - 00:13:00 | Speaker 2:

into what my my channel falls into your name tombstone algorithms which is this understanding that okay we're gonna let you guys talk because we lost so much traffic we're gonna let you do it But you old guys, we remember what you did to us, and you're the reason we have to let these guys go. We're still going to pound the fuck out of you and let all these shiny object shows go, and I'm happy they're going. This is not player hating. I never player hate. If I'm jealous, it's because I wish I was with you, not that it wasn't happening to you. I would love to be up there with you. I'm happy when anybody fucking makes it, but it's just like it's so obvious what is happening, and they're letting the new guys roam and bring in new people it's like what netflix is doing with my friends in the joe rogan sphere whatever they want to call it they're letting them back on netflix because they want they want them to bring back an audience that they left it was they were their numbers were going down and they wanted to be like look look look we're letting tony hinchcliffe roast chelsea handler and all this shit so uh you know it's all done that's all done on purpose they don't like us they don't want to and it just sucks because your show is one of the best shows and it is one of the best information uh content out there and i just was like damn dude that fucking sucks that fucking sucks yeah it does and i had ice age farmer he

00:13:00 - 00:14:10 | Speaker 1:

kind of went away for almost two years and he came back christian westbrook he's using his regular name now but you know he said something that resonated with me where he said he sees an inverse relationship maybe it's a mechanism of the universe you know the long arc of the moral universe uh tilts towards good but it is a very long arc as they say and he thinks there's a relationship where the harder they squeeze us the more people tend to wake up and you can look at youtube youtube squeezed and then what happened odyssey and rumble popped up and now they have to contend with that now they're not real competitors to youtube and there's a lot of flaws with that but it's still something so you know if they do another clamp down like that because it was kind of like just during the covid years a five-year period of clamp down and then it kind of went away and now i feel like now it's as you say we're in a bucket of algorithmic suppression but other people can do controversial shows that are really covering the same material but i think they realize that if we are become known as a place that's too censorship forward We create our own competition when we really don't need to do that.

00:14:10 - 00:15:00 | Speaker 2:

Yeah. I think Rumble's very interesting. We have some buddies who work over there that we love very much. And I was telling this to Johnny on another show. I don't know which it was. But, you know, the CIA is very much behind YouTube and who they blow up, who they don't blow up. Well, Rumble has Palantir. and you know peter thiel and palantir and as and i don't like peter thiel i do love the all drugs are good olympics i think that's fucking great let them do as much drugs as they want let's see how good they could get um but i wonder if if youtube is in trouble because they're backed by an old an old mechanism the cia if we're if we're gonna if they're gonna need the cia when they have Palantir being able

00:15:00 - 00:15:11 | Speaker 3:

able to watch every camera and everything there and then you know now now rumble has palantir behind them um i do think that could be an interesting play i think when did that merge

00:15:11 - 00:15:16 | Speaker 2:

happen or has it always happened that well peter thiel oh he's always behind rumble and peter

00:15:16 - 00:16:04 | Speaker 3:

thiel is palantir okay you know and once once they kind of take over if they do take over you know and again if they if they were winning all the time we would have barcodes on our heads we'd all be in 50-minute cities and we'd be getting vaccines every week so i i i'm i'm less uh blackpilled about that i do i have blackpill moments for sure but i definitely think that you know there's still a chance i think humanity will only go so far when they try to push us into even more absurd that people go whoa that's a little too much we'll see what happens right you know with these ai data centers there seems to be a big push now now the homeland security is labeling anybody anti data center as a terrorist have you guys seen that like that's

00:16:04 - 00:19:00 | Speaker 1:

fucking nuts yeah it's it's gonna be bad you know the crazy thing i mentioned ice age farmer and he kind of maybe he was a little bit overselling the shortages that he expected to see during covid because that was his big thing that he got attention for is the supply chain disrupted you know you expect massive shortages and maybe it didn't really happen here but from a global perspective it did happen in places that are less fortunate than the good old us of a and a lot of people the advice at the time was go get your food from a local farmer go get your meat from a local ranch get outside of the conventional system and create a parallel economy it's what katherine austin fitz is always saying and people have a weird psychology about like if it's not an absolute code red panic moment they just fail to act yeah but what you what you can look at as the is the trend so covid didn't get us there well look at everything that's going on and it seems like chaos but there's a lot of narrative cohesion between all these different sectors of life all pushing towards the same kind of thing again which will be energy rationing tracking and tracing massive data centers why do they need that if you stop the internet technology right now, I'd say it's pretty good. Everything moves pretty fast. What do we need these data centers for? If we have this without them, then we should be good. But what we don't have is digital IDs and programmable money and the tracking and tracing of every single individual and their AI companions spending their own money for them and rules on what money can be spent on what and the carbon credits and all that. So just because it isn't here today doesn't mean that isn't the trend. I don't care if it takes two years or 20 years. That's what they're going to continually try to do. It'll be a new operation, and then it'll probably cool off for five years, as it did, and then another new operation. Right now, it's World War III and data centers and the Strait of Hormuz bullshit. And they say that problem is really, really bad, and it's going to affect gas prices for several years. And who knows what... Another thing Christian Westbrook said is, this year, we're eating 2025's food. But in 2027, there's not going to be nearly as much food as there was because the Strait of Hormuz crisis was strategically engineered to happen right during harvest season. Many farmers did not have the diesel to actually farm their crops. So they watched acres of crops just die. And that's the food we're supposed to eat next year in the grocery store. So that's going to be fun. I just had Joel Saladin on from Polyface Farm, probably the most famous farmer out there, the lunatic farmer. he said that fertilizer prices went up so high that some farmers were lucky enough to have a pre-contracted price you know the corporate world you contract this price out in advance it's not

00:19:00 - 00:19:59 | Speaker 1:

going to go above this these are my margins all that and so some farmers who had a pre-contracted price they said look i'm not even going to use fertilizer this year i'm not going to plant this year i can make more money just reselling the fertilizer at the current rate than using it So that's another farmer that's not planting. So now you have half the farmers can't get the fertilizer they need, which they don't actually need. But in the corporate death system, they need it. And the other half are like, I'm not even going to plant. I'm just going to sell it to the other guy who now has to spend twice as much to get it. So what's the price of his food going to be next year? So these are the things. These are the trends that will continue. And, you know, it doesn't really matter if your store shelves are empty. if you know that's the direction they're going. So it's hard to get in front of problems that you don't see happening until 5, 10, 15 years down the road. But these are psychopaths. The management class hates us and they're going to continue to try to do these things.

00:20:00 - 00:20:21 | Speaker 3:

And it's just like, I've been trying to say, if they just give us nice things, they could probably get everything they wanted. Hey, guys, you got a fucking, you got a cell phone. Your wife's got fake tits. Nice house. Your own house. Your porn is in 4K. You're fucking, you're making money. You got a 401K coming. Oh, yeah, by the way, we're going to track you everywhere.

00:20:21 - 00:20:28 | Speaker 4:

Everyone be like, I don't give a shit. I'm living comfortable. No cancer. Can you stop with the pesticides and all that? Yeah, they did that.

00:20:28 - 00:20:38 | Speaker 3:

I mean, they could get literally everything they wanted, but it's just not their mindset. Their mindset is worshiping dark, dark energy and dark arts and all that shit. Right.

00:20:39 - 00:21:17 | Speaker 2:

That's why I do think it's a spiritual thing. I've said a long time ago, these people are in their 80s and they're still going to work. To me, that's failure. That's absolute fucking failure. How much money can you have? Clearly, you're a slave to something else. Yes. It's something that you have made a deal with that will not let you off the hook. maybe it's blood in blood out and you're in this mafia type deal and that's how you got your privileged position but it is very clear to me that just by the nature of their behavior you know bill gates does bill gates have as much freedom as i do it doesn't seem like he does because he has to constantly be doing this shit when he should just retire somewhere yeah it's

00:21:17 - 00:21:27 | Speaker 3:

hilarious his daughter's like my friends won't talk to me anymore because of my dad i'm like oh i'm sorry they don't like darth vader i'm sorry about that yeah that sucks for you yeah i heard

00:21:27 - 00:21:32 | Speaker 1:

billy hitler had a tough time making friends too yeah yeah billy sorry bro all right guys real

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00:25:56 - 00:26:10 | Speaker 3:

all this stuff yeah just stop can you i mean at least jagger can move frankie valley can just he just waddles around and and he can hardly lip sync that's how just completely out of i mean he

00:26:10 - 00:26:25 | Speaker 1:

looks like i it's see but for some reason for some reason when we talk about someone who sings i can i can maybe believe that they still love to do it but a politician you do at 80 you still want to go into fucking congress and go and sit there that's the one that literally blows my mind when you're

00:26:25 - 00:26:43 | Speaker 2:

sleep. That's power, man. Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell, just stop. Yeah. You're gonna die soon. Don't you want to just enjoy every day? You want to go stand at the fucking podium with all these idiots and just constantly navigate these giant crowds and just give it up? Yeah, but

00:26:43 - 00:27:16 | Speaker 4:

they got something on him, so he has to keep going. And none of them seem happy, right? None of them seem happy, no. Yeah, it's... Maybe they're just happy they're still alive, because you know the threat of getting assassinated. is is constantly there yes uh greg you brought up that you just lost a friend can we get into that real quick uh it's a day you know uh yeah he's been on a show before i think he's been on it twice gordon white uh passed away unexpectedly this month yeah i i'm surprised you didn't hear

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about it but you know you whatever a lot of things are happening david wilcock also died peter j carroll died um but yeah so gordon 44 years old one of my closest confidants and closest colleagues one of the only people maybe besides yourself to really transcend uh from just work the work life uh you know partition in in my life i have a work and personal partition that really doesn't get crossed very often but you've met my wife one of the only people uh i've ever done shows with who's met her but uh gordon was really something else he was one of my closest friends from the show we would talk all the time many years going the only other person i did live shows with besides yourself and you know he was always pushing me to like he was living in paraguay he's a real a real world traveling wizard and he'd be like let's let's meet up in panama bring the kids they have really good systems out there so he was always pushing me to travel more and i i know that the trajectory of my life is far different now because i'm not going to do a lot of things that i probably would have done uh with his motivation but the what happened was he uh he was working on his third book and what he calls the dot trilogy he has star ships animistic and then he was working on this third one and he was doing a lot of ayahuasca and hanging out with a lot of indigenous shamans and healers and various spiritual systems magic systems in central america south america and he what's crazy is we don't know a whole lot now i know he had a heart problem uh during covid he so he some intuitive people sometimes take in people's pain as their own and they say it has a real physiological effect on the body so gordon was hearing all these complaints and absorbing all this this stuff about like you know his friend's kid is in the sixth grade and is now paranoid to take his mask off even at home wants to sleep in his mask like all this heartbreaking shit that happened during covid like gordon took a lot of this in and internalized it and he developed this really bad heart problem like again he thinks they're connected who knows but i do think there's a connection between emotions and obviously stress and cancer for sure so he you know he was in Australia and lockdowns were really really crazy in Australia and eventually he did end up getting the Novavax because he asked his spirit team and he did his research and he thought the Novavax vax was the one with the least amount of side effects. And he thought he, his body could handle it and then he could heal it magically on the other end. And so this, but the thing that people are getting twisted is like, it didn't, he didn't get the vaccine and then

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have heart problems. He had part problems, then maybe took something that exacerbated it. And then, you know, had regular flare ups where his heart would be a problem. I remember him texting me and being like uh you know how you doing man and i said well it's the day yesterday was saint patty's day so i'm dealing with uh you know my stomach is not loving the all the green beer yesterday he's like oh yeah i woke up and my right arm was tingling but you know just got to get on with the day and uh i'm like man you know these are these are red flags buddy and then you're doing ayahuasca and he died in cusco which is is um cusco peru is one of these cities that is like at a mile high elevation and people also frequently end up in the hospital with heart palpitations because of the elevation so i feel like there is a a bunch of issues here that all point to putting pressure on an already damaged or weak heart and the thing is this is my speculation because the family won't really say anything they say he died of natural causes well this i guess that's what that means but what's odd is i know he was investigating a church the san la muerte was um this like underground you could say cult maybe cult is a bit too negative of a word but what's the difference between a religion and a cult besides size really but this this religion to san that worships san la muerte and that is basically the mexican grim reaper you know that

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It's the Virgin Mary, yeah, it's the Virgin Mary, it's like all of the Virgin Mary, La Santa Muerte, yeah.

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Well, this is different, so Santa Muerte is the female, but this is San La Muerte, which is the male figure, kind of a little lower on the hierarchy, but basically the Grim Reaper, a skeleton with a sickle and a hood, this is how it's always portrayed. So he's specifically looking into the death spirit, and his very last message to me was on May 6th, apparently he died May 9th of this month, and of course we're still in May, but he was like, oh, I'm investigating this religion, and the head of this church said that my presence triggered a prophecy where the spirit said to them, one day a powerful foreigner will come and on that day I will be done with you because he will help me spread the word of the church and that was the last message he ever sent me and then the last post he put on Substack was a little figurine that was an idol made of San La Muerte so his last post is literally a picture of the Grim Reaper and his last message to me is the same and then he dies at 44 years old and nobody will say anything now through our personal conversations I know that his family did not really respect his work let's just say that so the fact that they're not really jumping to inform the internet or his internet friends is what I'd probably be reduced to of what happened you know it's really sad because there's plenty of real friendships that are formed through the internet and a death can be taken just as hard as it would be for a brother like it is really hard it's hard not knowing those little details are strange another one a weird synchronicity so when I found out my dad died two years ago in May also within like a week of Gordon's death to the anniversary but when I got the call that my dad had passed I was wearing a shirt that I had bought a t-shirt that says content not available just a stupid goofy shirt I bought kind of to make light of the fact that we're always getting cancelled and shows removed and stuff so you know the classic content not available and I just thought it was uh morbidly funny because my dad had a good morbid sense of humor and it's like oh the day you die i'm wearing a content not available shirt like and you're not available when i woke up and got the message that gordon died i was wearing the same shirt whoa and that's weird that's weird to me i've got like 50 t-shirts whoa maybe don't wear that shirt anymore right yeah i'm going to burn it i'm gonna retire it too yeah it's gotta go um

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Anytime I text Greg, what shirt are you wearing right now? Yeah, dude, that is beyond... I think that was his last post, and it's a little figurine, like a Lego of like...

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Yeah, so this gets even crazier because through the grapevine, somebody put me in touch with the head of that church in Central America, and I've been talking to her through a translator, and she made that figurine for him, and she said that...

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Jordan was pretty skilled at communicating with the spirit that she communicates as her basic like spirit liaison. And usually you talk to these spirits through an idol. Like I've done shows about the ancient Greeks. And the reason they had all these Greek statues is because a lot of time they could be anchors for spirits. Like a spirit could attach to it and then communicate through it. and there's some weird relationship between aesthetics and proportion and the ability for a spirit to attach, like a talisman. So this was a little miniature talisman that Gordon was supposed to use to facilitate the communication. And it was apparently working, and I don't know. When I talked to her, she also said natural causes. Now, there's other people in the spiritual community who think that there could have been jealous shamans in the indigenous jungle who didn't like this guy coming around. He could have had a curse put on him. I mean, I don't know. I don't like to get all Harry Potter with it, but magic is real. So if you think magic is real, these things can't happen. I don't know to what degree, but Gordon, his impact to me was he always, he made magic real and he made conspiracy real in the sense that The anchor to his work, I think, though it was vast, was that the biggest conspiracy there is is perception management to make us feel small and to make us feel like we don't have any power at all and to make it seem like nature is just trying to kill us and nature is scarce and competition-based. The reality is nature is actually cooperation-based. Nature's best model is duplication through repetition, and it's not the bleak reality that it's presented with. But to get us to believe that it is, you had to put us in these cities, you had to get us to divest from natural living and live divorced from nature and then control the perception of it, give us the archetype of the poor farmer backbreaking work in the dust bowl barely scraping by one crop away from abject poverty and just starvation it's not really like that you plant an apple tree today and in five years you got to supply apples for the rest of your fucking life that's nature um but that's that we don't do that anymore most people have never planted a tree never planted a fruit tree in their life maybe no one in their families planted a fruit tree it's interesting because that's how we're supposed to live so gordon in a lot of ways i think his attitude was always that magic is dangerous teaching and studying magic is a dangerous act and it doesn't seem dangerous today because the perception management has been so successful as to consider magic silly so they just ignore it now but all throughout history one of the most dangerous things you could do is possess some of these grimoires that are on my shelf

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behind me some of the grimoires that gordon did courses on for rune soup this was dangerous stuff and there was a monopoly on it only uh within the secret societies in the top you know upper echelons so i think the reason why we had such a bond is and because you know i think we all have friendships where like we know i'm clearly the b side of this relationship this dude's funnier smarter always has something more interesting to say i don't know why he likes me um i think a lot of us know we have relationships where we're clearly the A-side, you know, where people in our lives come to us because we satiate their curiosity and stuff, but I think the reason he liked me is just simply because the magic community is such bootlickers for like the liberal establishment.

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Johnny, doesn't that remind you of the guy from the band that we had on? Remember he was like talking about Blondie, right? Blondie he was talking about. Oh, Gary uh gary lockman yeah i we liked him it was a weird interview and he has that he has that

00:39:00 - 00:39:07 | Speaker 2:

false paradigm in his head of politics yeah that is just yeah he's antiquated he's from that

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generation where it's like they're calcified in good guy bad guy in the left right paradigm right like he's stuck in that and it's you know i see that in comedy as well where it's like this inability to understand that both sides are two wings of the same rotten bird but they they just can't because they grew up where the church was evil conservatives were evil all that stuff and the progressives were just trying to fight for equality and love and just to live live their life and then when the left is canceling everybody they thought that was fine because they were canceling the right and fuck the right and the right's bad people and i would just be like dude they're doing the same things you hated that the right was doing in the 90s they're the exact same exact same game plan how do you not see that i get called i get called fascist nazi i got

00:40:00 - 00:40:58 | Speaker 2:

called racist this weekend i got called anti-semitic most of them were jokes most of them were jokes but still behind every joke there's some truth and that was just your mom yeah yeah that was but you know and that was in austin i got called those things so uh the in the nuance of it is is they just can't see it so i think you're totally right this this um you know i got hired to do um uh fat mike from no fx 50th birthday party this was like 10 years ago i'd say and the things i saw in there were absolutely insanity dude and i was like and i you know i'm a knuckle-dragging scumbag i'll be the first one to admit that dude you know i i'm working on my vices every day like trying to trying to get out of that uh mindset and i was shocked at what i saw and you know but they're all from the progressive left it's all progressive left stuff it's

00:40:58 - 00:42:17 | Speaker 1:

progressive left bootlicking like you've said yeah and you know gordon was outside of the political spectrum but the things i've seen said in his in the wake of his death it is so insane to me i i won't even elevate the names of the people saying it but other people in the magic community you know they'd be like oh you know he did contribute some good things but he was a covid denier and it's like that was six fucking years ago if you're gonna reduce all of his work to covid denier you are the one with a mental problem you are the one still stuck on covid gordon was over covid uh it's just like and and i said something to the guy too i couldn't help myself but rage respond to him and he's like well you encouraged people to go to covid speakeasies So that tracks for who kind of guy you are. I go, yeah, you know, keeping people in business, keeping people in business because I'm not afraid to go out and get a sandwich. You know, that's not an evil act. In fact, it's a very compassionate act. I put myself in your paradigm. I put myself at risk to keep a mom and pop deli that's been there for 50 years in business so that they didn't end up on the fucking street. but in your paradigm somehow i did something bad negative like it's it's they're goldfish dude

00:42:17 - 00:44:48 | Speaker 2:

they're goldfish they only see what's in front of them they'd have no ability to look back and go hey everything i thought that this thing was did not happen and on top of that their algorithm is shielding them from any data which states that their position is completely and early wrong and there was a guy who would attack me on twitter about covid about how i was a covid denier and all that shit and i would just send him every link i got in my algorithm about all these deaths all this this this to the he begged me to stop sending it to him please stop i go no dude you got to see the other side of the discussion your algorithm is lying to you right now it is keeping you comfortable and it's just like it's also that this thing that there's these people that are just feel like they can't compete in society so they just go just so hard the opposite way i saw this girl you know let's just be kind here she was alt attractive right she wasn't your typical yeah that's just me trying to be nice because like who am i i got bad angles who am i to judge anybody attractive you know i say that about female comics that aren't your traditional beauties because they tend to be the funny ones right because they're alt attractive right they're not your typical fucking gorgeous girl that gets everything handed to them so they need to fight for it and that's why they're so funny because their experience is so much different to a girl who suddenly realizes how attractive she is and how easy life is now so like they had to fight for that stuff so i'm gonna say this girl is alt attractive right she's attractive in her way and i can see how someone could love her right but there's a part of me that goes this woman doesn't think she can compete in the dating pool so what she's doing is she's going so hard the other way to get the ugliest haircut she can the ugliest look she can so she go i don't even want to date you and it's just really weird that the people are still holding on to covid no matter how much information's out they just can't i saw a guy at the airport the other day he was in the mask and his little like three or four year old boy was in a mask and to me that's child abuse it is it is and i can't say anything because that's their life dude but to be stuck in in that i'm still wearing a mask after fauci basically said it doesn't do anything is absolutely ridiculous

00:44:48 - 00:47:47 | Speaker 1:

to me right and you know i'm so i think we're both so sick of hearing about covid and talking about COVID. I'm sure the audience is too, but in the wake of Gordon's death, a lot of people have been talking about the cancellation he went through and i you know as his friend through the whole thing i didn't think it was a cancellation i thought it was two assholes that were just like picking apart his covet commentary and uh didn't agree with it but apparently it was more severe than that but what they did is they went into his private membership community and took private members content and pulled it out and put it public and that's not good to do because there's context you're talking to a specific audience of people who are prepared to hear what you're saying they've been vetted they've signed up to hear this and then you put it out publicly and it sounds a little harsh but i think a comic should know that you sometimes say things with poetic license he was a great great writer i mean goddamn pull up any of his blogs and you'll probably laugh a dozen times just going through any topic he wrote about he was so funny to me and uh just let's say and a part of being funny is being sharp as a writer and so he had said something to the degree of you know manage your behavior during covid pay close attention to your own behavior because if you go through history sometimes when people are siding with the state and the state is doing something wrong when you come out the other side those are the people who get put up on the fucking wall and he's not wrong that's not a wrong statement i can't agree more dude um and he was using poetic license he was basically saying make sure in this time you act in a way that you can be proud of on the other side don't act out of fear don't do things that are anti-human because you're scared like really sit down take a few deep breaths and make sure you're pro-human and anti-state and uh we'll all get through this and it was really a positive message of like just manage yourself because you might be judged on the other side of this chaos and that's true and so you know of course people who are bootlickers for fauci and the whole covid narrative they look at this like gordon said he wanted to shoot people it's like you fucking idiot do you not know what poetic license is do you not know uh the context of history so I just hate that so much of it was that because what I kind of, if we're going to talk about him, what I should say is he took old grimoires and old schools of magic and he recontextualized them for a modern digital audience like no one on earth. I mean, I wrote this down before we get on here and I don't know what's going to happen to RuneSoup but if you were a member of RuneSoup, he has a Foundations of Magic course, which is already like 10 hours to get you

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up to date on the Foundations. Then he has Elemental Magic, Prayer, Time Magic, Grimoires, Saints, Angel Magic, Ancestors in the Dead, the Greek Magical Papyri, Tarot, Journeying, UFOs, Fairies, and Psy, Wealth Magic, the I Ching, the Three-Body Solution, Playing Card Divination, Energy Healing, Protecting and Curses, Dimensional Magic, Terrain Theory, Place Magic, Road Opening, and Working the Psalms. And I think there's more. And every one of those is a full academic college level course. That's going to take you a week to complete. This is a treasure trove of information that in most other time periods could get you killed. And he, you know, he was a real G and I just hate to see people in the magic community say, oh, well, you know, he was a COVID denier. So none of that matters. It's like, oh, fuck yourself. Do half that work. Do half as good as that you know obviously i'm getting all fired up here but he he saw prayer and meditation and a lot of these things as technologies of of consciousness and they're right there available to any of us most of us don't engage with them because we're we just think they probably won't work because that's how we've been conditioned yet we know scrolling in our phone eight hours a day does make us dumber does hijack our pleasure centers does make us say hd screen-induced autism is a thing in children so you know how you spend your time matters and that's i think the heart of what he was trying to say with that statement during covid times and i just liked i don't like i said i don't know if this is even going to be available to the internet in 30 days i hope so because he did a lot of work it's his legacy rune soup rune soup like you know runes is a type of magic it's the nordic how do you spell it r-u-n-e rune s-o-u-p rune soup so you know what's so interesting i am not anything special but there's something i've learned about people in particular the quote-unquote outlaws the outlaws hate the establishment but the only thing the outlaws It's hate mo-

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00:55:30 - 00:57:51 | Speaker 1:

and let me hop in here because you just pulled up his website and it jogged a memory of mine so his last substack post was the scrim reaper statue but his last post on the website was a tribute to peter j carroll now peter j carroll is the guy who basically started chaos magic, which is the discipline that Gordon would say he was resurrecting, which is basically take what works and discard the rest. Who cares what system it comes from, what culture it comes from, if it works, use it and fold it into your personal religion and your personal magic. So that's another weird synchronicity that his very last post there at the top is a tribute to his magical hero who also died basically the same week. And there's not really much of a conspiracy to Gordon's death I don't think but I was on with Miguel Conner of Aon Bight and he brought up the he Miguel is great at thinking in spiritual terms and thinking about the archons and thinking about how there are forces in the spiritual plane that do affect things here and he was making this argument that it almost felt to him like the spirits they know where we are we're about to be at a big pressure point for World War 3 and a very tense couple of years and they're clearing the board of the gurus and the spiritual mystics who had the best advice for these times because they don't want us to have that so is it possible that an archon or some kind of demonic entity leaned on Gordon's heart and it caused him to have a heart attack and it appears as natural causes because we can only see the effects of the physical it's possible it's interesting that Peter J. Carroll also died. Of course, he was far older, but I've heard about another couple of people. Magic really isn't my thing except through Gordon. So I know there's a couple other people in the magical community who've also died recently. And I've heard researchers break down this trend that if you go back in time and you look at really tense periods, a lot of mystics and gurus die right before these periods because they don't want these examples out there leading their congregations through tumultuous times in a positive way yeah i don't know if that's true but i do find it to be

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a little interesting i don't know what the psyop is with these these dead scientists and anti-gravitational stuff i don't know exactly what the what that is but man if they if they learned anything from covid it's like you gotta get rid of anybody that can explain it to the masses so they don't follow the psyop of what is coming so you eliminate anybody that could go this is not what is happening and you even had a moment where um what's the black physicist that's famous the pop black physicist um oh neil degrasse dyson writing a ufo book now right so he came out during covid and was like you guys got nothing to worry about it's fucking fine two weeks later a sexual assault allegation comes out and then bang he's right back in line he's talking about a thousand genders he's doing he's saying whatever they want him to say so i think they learned a lot from covid maybe they had forgotten but they learned a lot from covid with all these people coming forward sound the alarm that something doesn't make sense and may and maybe with these scientists they did the exact same thing when it comes to this project blue beam ufo thing going on so when you bring up are they trying to get rid of the shamans i believe that's 100 possible now my question to you is and i'm not trying to get you to say either way is it possible that somebody in this cult was not excited about the thought of their entity leaving them for of outsider yes

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I consider all possibilities I absolutely don't know what happened or to what degree that stuff was involved and I hate to reduce Gordon down to here's another guy who got into magic and then got burned or died at a young age because I think he was so skilled and talented at that stuff that I wouldn't want to reduce it but we all know it's dangerous I mean either people think it's bullshit shit and not true at all and all superstition or they stay away from it because they think it's dangerous but i think gordon's biggest legacy was his sigil magic stuff and sigil magic anyone can do without involving any spirits at all it's really just affecting your own subconscious with an imprint of your own desire and uh i mean i guess the people know what sigils are i think but you reduce a state as you make a sigil statement of what you want you know i might say oh i want 10 000 new paid subscribers by the end of the year obviously lofty but uh you know whatever you want to say the stars here and you you you go through it uh there's a process to reduce that down to a symbol but then what gordon added to it is he added the shoal and the robo fish principles where they discovered in the lab that if you made a robotic fish and you put it in with regular fish they will follow the robot because the robot seems confident and really confidence can get a lot of things done so uh so what gordon said is he would say shoal a shoal is like a school of fish he would say shoal your sigils don't make one make five or ten sigils and make some of them things that will definitely come true i will have sausage and eggs tomorrow morning and you make that sigil right alongside i want 10 000 paid subscribers or i want that new job interesting and you do these other ones i'm going to take a shower tomorrow and you make these sigils all together and you put them out you you know meditate on them you consecrate them you go through his process and the the ones that you know are going to manifest help the other ones find the groove in which they become true and become part of your reality oh that's interesting yes wow yes now that is magic and that is what the elite hope you never find out you know we we look at we as a conspiracy show we always talk about the elite and the magic they're doing and it's very dark but it's also powerful the thing is a lot of that magic is available to you and me and everyone listening but it's never been taught to us and we've always kind of dismissed it as silly instead of scrolling your fucking phone tonight research sigil magic and get your life

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on track i 100 percent like you know i've said this a thousand times but you know in in in austin getting called racist getting called you know anti-smack and it's like hey dude i'm not that guy i don't i don't think these tiny hats are in control that's just not me if you ask me who's in control and i said it a long time ago on joe rogan when he invited me back on was it's it's sorcery the sorcerers are running everything and it's you can get in kabbalah you can get in the freemasonry jesuits but it all meets in the same place eventually they're all talking the same thing and it's old whether it's babylonian or you can go even past that old sorcery old magic manipulation of energy and this is how they do it propaganda is sorcery

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yes they're just we need good sorcerers too we need to make magicians out of everybody if we're going to get through the digital control grid plans they have for us so i know that you're not

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necessarily a uh um a um um uh religion let me just say organized religion guy i don't know what your beliefs are that's your opinion what you're into um you know i i often talk about on this show that i you know there's this whole theory that mysticism that that manifestation is evil and it's dark and it's a trick by the devil i don't necessarily believe that i think it's manipulation of energy in an energy vortex that we live in what do you what is your thoughts on all that

01:03:56 - 01:04:59 | Speaker 1:

well right gordon would say that magic is a probability enhancer that's all it is really another probability enhancer is filling out the application for the job you want sending your resume to a company is a probability enhancer that you will maybe get a call every action we do is basically just trying to make our lives as good as they can be so what is making sigils why is that automatically evil it's conveniently evil or projected and framed as evil by people who want to have power over us it's conveniently framed as evil by the religious authorities they would i mean go back in time they would peel a man's skin off and hang him on a cross and burn him alive because he did magic because magic is evil well what's that you know what is what is the action you just did you know they would pour boiling water on a person because they had a book why because the book is powerful and they want a monopoly on that power.

01:05:00 - 01:05:57 | Speaker 2:

So, I think that anyone telling you magic is evil probably doesn't know what it is. And I think a lot of these memes just run on fumes. Catholics think magic is evil. Okay, great. Well, what does magic mean to you? Is it talking directly to Baphomet? Or is it making a sigil? Is it meditation? Do you consider meditation magic? Because you can get yourself into the hypnagogic stake between wake and sleep. And you can get ideas from the ether that might absolutely change your life. most of the big inventors where'd you get your ideas oh it just came to me in a dream or it came to me yeah is that evil you know where do any of our ideas come from we don't know so this categorization is just silliness but it's usually people who want to have power over you tell you it either if they can tell you if they can't tell you it's fake entirely then they tell you it's evil because that's the next best thing sure it works but it's also bad yeah so yeah i agree with

01:05:57 - 01:06:02 | Speaker 1:

out wholeheartedly. What they don't know, they demonize. There were a lot of Christian mystics

01:06:02 - 01:09:01 | Speaker 2:

back in the day. If you look at the Cathars and a lot of the various sects that we now call Gnostics, there were no Gnostics, but there's a lot of sects we lump in, which is kind of alt Christianity. But a lot of them were totally living in peace. They had purification rituals because they thought that if you meditated and you ate clean and you lived clean and you lived celibate, you could actually attune your higher self better. And it seems to work. There's people, like if you go to Diana Pasolka's stuff where she was highlighting these guys in NASA that she was working with, one of them said the exact same thing. I can't drink coffee. I don't drink alcohol because I get my ideas from something that the signal gets fuzzy when I consume these things. Well, what is our whole culture based on? Caffeine and alcohol. Funny how it works out. It's all to keep you feeling powerless and to break up the signal between you and your higher self or the higher realms or whatever's up there. And it's to make your magic broken. But any day we want, we can just switch it on by doing the work and learning about it and starting with meditation and prayer. there's scientific studies that show prayer is real I'm not even Catholic I am nothing there's no word for what I am I'm a hodgepodge I'm a hodgepodge there's no word for it I could you know explain each individual part but I'm kind of a I've never thought of myself I'm not a magician but I'm like a chaos religion person I pull what works really I look at what indigenous cultures outside of manipulated western society what the commonalities are amongst them And I say, that's probably it. People separated by thousands of miles with no communication whatsoever often arrive at similar conclusions. Spirits are real. You want to curry favor with the good ones to help protect you from the bad ones. Animism is a legitimate thing, which is basically that all animals, all things are conscious and spirits can deliver omens and signs through the animals and plants like that kind of stuff isn't it interesting that so many cultures came to those conclusions and then the religious western powers came and killed them all yeah the first thing they do is kill everybody make them a new religion and build them a school to teach them their new history and their new paradigm that seems to be doing what they're doing to ai huh yeah the ai thing i mean it's it's gonna be a mess i'm more worried about the ticks in terms of things that are coming that are happening now ai i can avoid the ticks i worry about that i can't avoid all the all the trees on my property are getting cut below the neck i can't have ticks falling on my head uh i'm joking but i am a little paranoid because they have been trying to make us fear outside

01:09:01 - 01:09:59 | Speaker 2:

to get us to volunteer to come into the cities. Come into the cities. It's going to be good. They want us to volunteer. So they try to tell us that the sun would kill you, but people realize actually the sun is needed. The sun on your skin and the sun in your eyes without sunglasses has serious physiological effects that are helpful. Grounding, forest bathing, these things can cure you from pretty radical transformations from pretty severe autoimmune conditions. So Now, you didn't get me on that one. I'm not afraid of the sun, but I am kind of afraid of these ticks. This alpha-gale syndrome freaks me out. I like my steaks, and the rates are going through the roof. It's concerning. Did you have A.W. Finnegan on? No. The guy who wrote the Sleeper Agent book. You might look into him. I can hook you up. Please. He has Lyme disease, and he went down the Lyme disease rabbit hole, And he wrote a book about the story of Dr. Eric Traub, who is a Nazi scientist.

01:10:00 - 01:11:23 | Speaker 1:

Who then, you know, when Project Paperclip happened, we got some scientists and the Soviet Union got scientists. This guy went to the Soviet Union, but then ended up in the U.S. Naval Medical Research Institute of Bethesda, Maryland, and worked on Plum Island in Fort Detrick. And he's the one who basically created Lyme disease, and he's the one who released it in the Northeast. Because why? He doesn't give a fuck about America. he's a Nazi scientist who was working for the Soviet Union during the Cold War so you're in the middle of the Cold War and I don't know what idiot decided to invite a biological warfare expert from the Soviet Union to run a program here in the states when we're having a massive conflict with them but a lot of people think at least A.W. Finnegan thinks that that was an attack you know a covert biological attack to release ticks that had lyme disease here in the states and for a long time the medical community said lyme isn't real that's just all in your head finally they've admitted it's real funny pfizer's working on a lyme disease vaccine right now and now they're finally talking about it and look online these ticks are popping up everywhere there are boxes of ticks being found in the woods by people flame throw those things dude yes

01:11:23 - 01:11:26 | Speaker 2:

there's farmers and ranchers

01:11:26 - 01:12:13 | Speaker 1:

going out in the woods and finding these boxes of ticks and now if you look at the because there's always a cover story right there's always an answer that you know calms the conspiracy down well the answer in this case is oh those boxes aren't boxes of ticks dropped from airplanes those boxes are designed to be traps for animals to walk through them and then they get doused with pesticides and the ticks die it's like okay that might be a thing that kind of a tick that might kind of a box might exist but you know who knows the difference farmers and people who are out in the woods those kind of people know that stuff and they're looking at this this box the shoe box of ticks looks like it fell out of an airplane and they're like that's fucked up how'd that get here yeah and the question becomes

01:12:13 - 01:13:00 | Speaker 2:

why do we put up with it is it just like they've they've soaked us in so many chemicals that we just have apathy to everything it's simply that we all have to go to work tomorrow yeah there is a predator class and everyone's fighting with the people on their level and it just blows me the fuck away so you know an interesting thing about tim full hat is that we've talked about so many stuff so much stuff so often i don't know how many shows a week you put out we'll put out two sometimes even three um you know the question is have you heard everything and does that affect you that you've heard almost all of it a little bit yeah definitely

01:13:00 - 01:15:00 | Speaker 1:

sometimes i feel like especially now the only game in town is the technocracy digital control grid yes that's happening that's yes that's being built uh it is it is kind of hard to get excited about things but what's doing it for me and i know this is repetitive of the last time i was here but like you got to look at what's actionable what is because knowledge without action is nothing it is might as well not know so when it comes to who killed jfk did the shot come from the front seat or the grassy knoll or the sewer below it doesn't matter uh when it comes to 9-11 i definitely think dr judy woods got it right but if it was nanothermite it doesn't matter what matters is what you can do. And what you can do is you can recontextualize the programming that you've been given that nature is not abundant and that you are powerless. Reverse those things. Start doing sigil magic. Start meditating. Start, as Gordon would say, affecting the field in positive ways. He believed that everything is energy and everything is an energy field. And you can have outsized impacts on the field by just being, you know, armoring yourself up, doing your meditation, doing your grounding, these things like prepare yourself to deal with a crisis better than everyone else so that you can be that port in the storm when everyone in your life is freaking out. You can be like, Hey, calm down. It's going to be okay. There's no eggs at the grocery store. Luckily I got chickens two years ago. I'm drowning in eggs over here. You need to, you need compost to get your garden started. I've got it. You know, we can be the stewards of our neighborhoods like we of our communities we can be there when when they're freaking out about things that they see on the news because they've been traumatized and mk altered and stressed out to no degree like that's our role you know we are if if this is like some kind of you know gordon would say you don't get to fight so

01:15:00 - 01:17:57 | Speaker 2:

like that was a big thing is like first off who do you think you are that you get to fight the elite like you're not even on the same level so you don't get to fight sauron sometimes we have this attitude in the conspiracy world that we're gonna do this battle with the elite and then we're gonna win and then the world's gonna be fixed no that isn't it but what you can do is take your corner of the world and make it better and say you know fuck all that you know i'm not gonna let it get to me giving them too much attention makes them too big of an impact in your life but plant some fruit trees you know i hate to reduce it down to something so silly but you've got kids i've got kids on this land that i have now when my kids are 18 there will be 40 fruit trees on it there will be things that yield forever or you know for a long long time uh If you wanted to, so here's another rabbit hole, but people bring up Babylon and all the math and the science and all the different things we were given from the gods, right? The Mesopotamian gods taught us how to build civilization. One of the aspects of civilization is agriculture. Agriculture was a trap. Agriculture gets everybody in one place where the king makes the rules and who has what surplus and what supply. and they taught people to grow annual crops, things that die every year. You grow them, you harvest them, they're gone. What they didn't teach them is to plant fruit trees and passion fruit vines that yield like 3,000 pounds of fruit over the course of their lifetime. You can plant things that generate abundance and yield every year. You don't have to do monocrop agriculture soaked in poison where you harvest it, and then if you had a bad harvest the next year, everyone dies. You don't have to do that. They did that as a trap, as a mechanism to control huge swaths of people in a hierarchical system with a priest king on top. That is what their gods taught them how to do, and they've done it to us ever since Babylon. So, if you want to reverse that, look at things that grow in your area. It's very easy to find what zone you live in. Go online. There'll be food forest people on YouTube in your zone and look for, you know, things that thrive on neglect is the term people use. You don't even have to maintain the shit. It thrives on neglect. Find the top five things in your area to grow. Most of them will be way more nutrient dense than anything you'll get at a grocery store and free. So, and they regenerate over and over and over again. And you can cut off branches and replant them and give that to your friends. We have these crazy huge mulberry bushes They yield so much fruit And I've cut off probably 50 branches And you just replant them That's what abundance is You don't need the seed, you just take the branch You just take a branch and you can propagate it

01:17:57 - 01:18:43 | Speaker 2:

My 4 year old daughter propagates stuff now She thinks it's fun for her She doesn't watch television, she propagates twigs This is the way You know, this is the way it doesn't matter what they're doing out there. They can only control you if you're dependent on their systems. We've all heard the phrase, you can't bite the hand that feeds. Well, stop taking your food from the hand you want to criticize. Like there's a lot of grumbling and rumbling, but if you're suckling at that teat, you're going to get everything they want to give you the digital ID, the digital currency, and you're going to wait to the very last minute and you're going to have to opt in because you haven't armored yourself up and secured your own freedom to be able to say no. That's what it's going to be about. It might be next year, it might be 10 years down the road,

01:18:43 - 01:19:27 | Speaker 1:

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is i got two questions for you when was the last time you were let's say shocked or mind blown by something you learned uh well ties into what we're talking

01:20:36 - 01:23:36 | Speaker 2:

about probably so dr heather lynn i know you've had her on as well she is great she is great so my last interview with her she framed the secret societies as the brotherhoods of sacred math and I thought that was so great because she's basically talking about the spirit communication they had, like I said they were given these equations, but part of the equation is how to control massive amounts of people by creating bottlenecks and extracting value, and then they take this template and apply it to all kinds of things, taxes food supplies they always, they're the middleman who takes the excess, she goes deep into entropy, but so this is one component of it. The other side of it is Bob Grineer who is a fusion researcher. If people remember Pons and Fleissman, they were two scientists who said they cracked cold fusion in the 90s. They had a huge press conference. It was a big thing. And then of course the whole system shit on them and said you did not crack free energy. You're just quacks. One guy died and the other guy retired and never to be seen again. That's how it works. Many people have cracked free energy over the years. And this is what happens. But Bob Grenier gave a presentation and I have a, I have a screenshot of it, but he, in his presentation, he said, you know, my dad and my grandfather were both Freemasons. He's like, I'm not, I'm just a free energy researcher. When I was a kid, my dad woke me out of bed and told me to come outside. And he said, look at that part of the sky and a UFO flew over. And then he put me back in bed. Uh, he said, another thing that happened is when his grandfather or father i i can't recall when they died he got all their freemasonic regalia so he has all these metals these very complex geometric metals you know we've seen freemasonic stuff the florida lee symbol uh the jerusalem cross the double-headed eagle he's got all these metals and he looked at these metals for the 33rd degree and the 32nd degree level of freemasonry And he said, oh, my God, the exact patterns I see in the lab on my free energy work are these patterns on these metals. And it's like, yes, they've always known. They've always known nature is abundant. Energy is everywhere. And the only way they can rule us is to make us believe that it's not true. Scarce. They have to make us think everything is scarce. And it's not. It's not. Look at the history of people who have cracked free energy. Look at the guy who found how to make engines run on water. Another guy, no, he got engines to run 200 miles to the gallon. He could convert any engine to run 200 miles to the gallon. Somebody broke into his shop, trashed everything, and destroyed his work, and you never hear from him again. This happens. Dozens and dozens of people have gone down this way because nature is abundant, because we are God. This is a playground to experience reality. And it's not, it is the Garden of Eden.

01:23:36 - 01:25:49 | Speaker 2:

It is here. We've concreted over it. We've asphalted over it, but it is here. And the thing about nature is no matter how much concrete and asphalt you pour on it, it'll reemerge. It'll take time, but nature has time. And it will rise up again. And so all it needs is for us to kick over the first few dominoes, plant the trees, learn about the things that grow in your area. Get out of the fucking HOA That won't let you grow anything but pointless grass This is another control mechanism You gotta get control of some land They've taken it all from us Go to the outskirts of town Get yourself an acre You don't have to have a house on it either Go to places where the land is cheap That's maybe 20 minutes from your home There's gotta be a place Get an acre And instead of going to the grocery store Go out to this acre on the weekends Plant your fruit trees when they start to get bigger propagate more for free get some chickens that run around out there get a dozen chickens that run around on this land get a solar panel door that locks at night they will go in to their own coop at night you don't have to be there and you'll go there every day and chickens lay about an egg a day by the end of the week you'll have 200 eggs for free it is crazy how easy this stuff is and they've robbed us of all of it it's got me motivated and jazzed up because gordon not only taught me about magic but then he also became the head of like a permaculture group in tasmania and i was like why is this why is my wizard friend all worried about permaculture this is pretty lame this is not fun well now i don't think it's lame now i think it is like that is the magic the magic is in nature the magic is in grounding and meditation and prayer we don't do any of this stuff we just scroll on the fucking phones you know so the last thing that really blew my mind to actually answer your question was that bob grenier showed exactly that these symbols that are that lead to free energy the patterns that lead to free energy the frequencies are embedded in the regalia of the freemasons because they always fucking knew from babylon they've known

01:25:49 - 01:25:54 | Speaker 1:

are Freemasons bad are some

01:25:54 - 01:28:51 | Speaker 2:

bad I think every organization has good and bad people in it every single one it has to by the nature of any organization and the people that join it I think there's a filtration mechanism where only the worst people get to the top of course and it's a drinking club for the rest of them but the point is if you want to get if you're mad at them for what they've crafted around you the best thing you can do is just engage with nature and start the abundance engine where you are and armor yourself up spiritually and mentally and practice magic in a safe way whatever is safe to you but sigils and prayer and manifestation and messing with the hypnagogic state that's all very basic shit that does not involve spirits as far as we know there might be something going on there but you know you don't have to summon baphomet with a ouija board to do magic and remote viewing they don't want us to know remote viewing is real because it's a threat to national security because you can't guard any secrets if people know you can remote view anything anywhere but you can with a little bit of training you can two weeks training you can probably remote view most things that you want to see that's the secret is how easy it is and how much work has been done to suppress it all if you want to win do you think there's risk to that remote viewing you know i have heard that there is i have heard some stories of people remote viewing and then they get caught doing it and then other remote viewers that work for the bad guys catch them and see them and then like they have problems but you don't have to remote view area 51 you know you can do you can do a lot of other stuff uh really i think that you should level up your own game to create abundance in your life in one way or another whether it's money or resources or compost because people are going to need you and you know the same people in our lives if we have the strength to do it the same people in our lives that think we are the crazy conspiracy people in 10 years down the road they might be asking you hey how do you take care of chickens how do you make compost please help me because the writing's on the wall and do you have chickens oh yeah are you happy in florida dude uh i miss all my friends in california i miss so much about it but in terms of like what's best for my family yeah i fell on the sword i have uh no no uh social male camaraderie out here that's all girls that sucks well it's just my wife we don't know anybody me and my wife and my kids you know that's all i got and the internet so uh my closest friend that I, you know, really vibed with the best is dead. My dad is dead. My mom's 82 years old. She's going to need to be taken care of soon. But what I'm, what I'm figuring out is that, you know, when I moved here two years ago, I didn't know anything. And now I grow,

01:28:52 - 01:29:43 | Speaker 2:

I, the top five things I grow are super nutrient dense that you cannot buy in a grocery store. Most people have never heard of Jabba Takaba. It is a Brazilian grape that grows on the actual trunk packed with vitamin C. Most people, you can't access a Barbados cherry anywhere. I don't know that you can buy a Barbados cherry in any grocery store, but it has more vitamin C than two oranges and we grow that. The mulberries that we grow, the reason why you don't buy mulberries in a store is because they don't last long enough to get them to market. They'll mold, but you eat them right off the tree and they're fine. They also have three times the vitamin C of a blackberry or blueberry so the most nutrient dense stuff that exists you cannot buy in a grocery store but you can grow for free you just need land and they've worked really hard to make sure that

01:29:43 - 01:30:00 | Speaker 1:

it's hard for many of us to have land so over all the years what's your favorite conspiracy if you you love talking about it which it just you know there's certain things for me i love to hidden history viruses. I love talking about what, what,

01:30:00 - 01:30:00 | Unknown:

what,

01:30:00 - 01:32:34 | Speaker 1:

your take well i mean we're talking about it i think right now the thing that charges me up is just knowing that the biggest conspiracy is perception management that we have zero power materialism is the only name of the game you cannot affect reality and and and nature is scarce you know this shows like alone and naked and afraid they show us those to to scare you because yes you plop any person down in nature with zero resources and you might be dead in three days but that's not how it actually works you can cultivate the land and you know the the biggest problem is that our grandparents didn't do this for us like the way a family should work is that there is a big plot of land that you hand down to the next generation that has the abundance engine running on it and you know we could we could do that many times over so i i do get i mean you can kind of hear i get passionate about this now and i used to think it was quite boring but going back to the secret societies and all this stuff, all the way back to Babylon, the name of the game has always been, we can only be the kings if people think, if we scare people into thinking they need us. We don't need them. You know, Native Americans, when you look at the stories of the early settlers here, you look at their stories, they said there were so many trees that a squirrel could go from the Mississippi River to the East Coast without touching the ground they would take their horses and they would try to cross the hudson river and their horses were stomping on fish because there were so many fish in the river that they couldn't even cross without killing a bunch of fish because the name of the game for the elite is depletion they want to deplete everything and poison everything so that you can't regenerate it i mean obviously i mean i think you always can because nature's a tough bitch but they've done everything they can to poison the land and try to because first they convince you it's not possible and then while you're in that state they poison everything and trash everything so that it's really hard to get it moving again but you still can do it any soil can be revitalized any dead soil can be revitalized really easy by just putting any organic matter on it throw your chicken or throw your kitchen scraps out the chickens will eat it and what the chickens don't eat will go into the ground and then things that you plant things in that and it grows it's really super simple but we aren't taught any of it and that's intentional they want us on that titty get off the titty get off the titty

01:32:34 - 01:34:07 | Speaker 2:

what a great way to end the show get off the fucking titty well greg you are uh one of the best to do it you're a great guy um sorry for your loss sorry for your dad sorry for greg i mean for white i'm sorry about gordon that it uh it is very tragic when we the older we get the more heroes we lose yes i'm learning that and it just sucks dude it sucks when you're young your grandparent passes away it's like the shocking thing that there's an end to the story and then as you get to a certain age you start losing so many people and you know you've been in in the game for a while you've been proven right time and time again so i hope that you are enjoying your life buddy you deserve it you've done a great service to everybody and you know we you know i've gotten to this place where it's like oh don't worry about the sleeping sheep don't wake up the sleeping lions i'm like i'm not even worried about the lions dude at this point if you can't see what's going on and want to figure a way to get outside the system and like you know my story is crazy i get hit up by everybody their life is out of control and you know and it's just like dude i got kicked out of hollywood very early and created a system and through and dana is a big part of that and we create a system that's outside of the system so when covet hit we were thriving we didn't miss a fucking beat and you've done that as well so congratulations on that one more

01:34:07 - 01:34:59 | Speaker 1:

time greg please tell them where they can find you the higher side chats.com and i could use a little boost on the youtube channel watch a few shows there maybe you can uh get me out of the tombstone algorithm perhaps i know it's daunting but the website's where i like people to go and anywhere you get your podcast i mean the the thing about the website is i have it set up as like a netflix style display where i actually have categories so it's not just one big rss list you can actually find quite a few things. There's a magical toolbox set of shows there. There is a solutions set of shows. You can get into the positive stuff because yes, it's interesting to know what happened at Sandy Hook and this and that, but PSYOPs are going to PSYOP and it really is just another distraction to keep you from actually improving your life and rebuilding the world. That's what we got to do. Next time you come to Tampa, dude, I'll show you around this place.

01:35:00 - 01:35:02 | Speaker 5:

You know, you'll see I'm cooking with gas out here, as you say.

01:35:02 - 01:35:17 | Speaker 7:

I would love that. I'm going to be out there for a festival soon, so I'd love to see you, buddy. You are the man. I always don't hang up, but thank you for coming on. I hope you guys enjoyed this. You know, rest in peace, Gordon White, and let's break down the episode.

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So, what did you guys think of Greg Carlwood? Man, I felt for him. you can feel he was sad his homie passed away you know yeah yeah that sucks man it's the worst like i mean do you have like a backup in case no i have no backup and it's like you need a will

01:38:43 - 01:38:53 | Speaker 5:

i'm like i'm gonna live forever johnny what are we gonna do we're calling his brother in his shredded brother my shred brother who doesn't believe in conspiracy that's right that'll be a

01:38:53 - 01:38:58 | Speaker 7:

great conspiracy show we're just i don't know i don't want to hear this well we're gonna have a

01:38:58 - 01:39:18 | Speaker 5:

big talk with him before we're gonna be like okay you're gonna play a character called sam shrippily okay put these glasses on where this raider's hat wear this fat suit and i'll give you a script we'll just prompt him on the screen there just just move your mouth and we're gonna ai you what we're gonna put we're just gonna put his face in a shadow you know the brim of your hat is gonna come out so far that you can't quite see his face because he looks like you a little

01:39:18 - 01:39:22 | Speaker 7:

bit and then we'll tell him sure and then we'll convince the genetically superior version of me

01:39:22 - 01:39:26 | Speaker 6:

you think we can convince people that you're back on like the mask because we're gonna he's got to

01:39:26 - 01:39:50 | Speaker 7:

wear a mask i'll tell them like sam's so concerned about his face he's he's now ebola yeah he's now wearing a fucking pussy right hat terrain theory out the door i was wrong about viruses it's wrong right they're killing people i'm glad i survived anyways why sam's hands bigger

01:39:50 - 01:39:55 | Speaker 5:

anyway don't worry about it sam you're great at bowling all of a sudden it's amazing wow why is

01:39:55 - 01:39:59 | Speaker 7:

Dude, how come you don't even look at your children? It's very weird. You don't hug them.

01:40:00 - 01:40:03 | Speaker 2:

them at all. Tell them you love them. It's very fucking weird.

01:40:03 - 01:40:06 | Speaker 3:

All your boyfriends have noted the increase in your dick. It's amazing.

01:40:07 - 01:40:41 | Speaker 2:

Whoa, John just called my brother gay. Oh, boy. He disappeared. That was a breakdown Greg Carwood episode. Greg is great. Obviously, losing Gordon White is very hard. Brody was probably the closest of of losing a friend that i had that was in your life and then he's gone god he was funny and it's it's really hard i remember when i found out i came home i cried dana's like i've never

01:40:41 - 01:41:05 | Speaker 1:

seen you cry before dude you booked it you left pollyanna behind and i like polly yeah and i was there and then the producer was like did he just leave without his dog and then you you went handled your shit and then i mean obviously we hung out and it was like i mean you guys can go watch the episode it was we were literally live on the show it's super sad dude super sad dude it's hard to

01:41:05 - 01:41:44 | Speaker 2:

lose a friend it it you know i didn't want to bring up the thing with greg with greg because there was that that woman that was also dabbling in dark magic that passed and like greg somehow got caught up in it i don't know i don't know it's like liz cronkett or something like that i don't know what her name is i forget what her name is um will you look up greg carlwood liz and see what comes up but you know he had that that that situation and she was dabbling in really dark magic dude she's like trying to summon spirits that's the name liz yeah i think so

01:41:44 - 01:41:51 | Speaker 3:

nothing no liz in fact let me see if i can force it to it's something about like uh

01:41:51 - 01:41:54 | Speaker 2:

Elizabeth? Liz Merritt? Is that something? No, no, no. Greg Carlwood.

01:41:55 - 01:41:57 | Speaker 3:

Liz Dye? Those are the only names.

01:41:57 - 01:41:59 | Speaker 2:

I can't remember the name. Elizabeth Puswick?

01:41:59 - 01:42:01 | Speaker 3:

Maybe. Is there another thing I can search?

01:42:01 - 01:42:09 | Speaker 2:

Look up Greg Carlwood, woman and Ouija board. Okay. See if you can look up that.

01:42:13 - 01:42:27 | Speaker 3:

Exorcist discusses possession and Ouija board history. Greg Carlwood. Cult rejects came up. That's the first result. No, I don't.

01:42:27 - 01:42:47 | Speaker 2:

Okay, it's fine. But the point is, this woman was very well known, and she was, like, talking about the whole. She died? Yeah, mysteriously. And it was a big thing. Jessa Reed, is that? No, no, no. Jessa Reed. I miss Jessa Reed. We got to get her back on. Jessa Reed's the one who did, like, drank her own pee when she was tweaking.

01:42:48 - 01:42:55 | Speaker 1:

Oh, yes, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. we've had a couple people talk about drinking piss on the show that one's unforgettable yeah

01:42:55 - 01:43:00 | Speaker 3:

that's funny nothing it's been almost deleted I've tried every imaginable

01:43:00 - 01:43:15 | Speaker 1:

Johnny you know how he said you can just buy an acre and kind of just let stuff kind of grow is that like doable like you can like where he said get a automatic coupe pen and stuff I mean like he said you gotta

01:43:15 - 01:43:19 | Speaker 2:

Liz Cronkett that's who it is I think

01:43:19 - 01:43:21 | Speaker 3:

Crockett or Cronkite

01:43:21 - 01:43:32 | Speaker 2:

I think it is her I don't know if she's still alive Cronkin Hold on Hold on Johnny Will you shut the fuck up

01:43:32 - 01:43:38 | Speaker 3:

There's someone called Liz Crockett who is alive apparently She's an American columnist and conspiracy theorist According to Wikipedia

01:43:38 - 01:45:10 | Speaker 2:

Yeah that's not her she's still alive Sorry Liz Crockett I'm trying to figure out I don't know what her name is I'm sure we're going to get yelled at in the comment section Somebody's like it's fucking this bitch But yeah man gordon white was a good dude he's been on the show very smart guy very smart guy very interesting person and uh it sucks when you lose people like that really i mean like as you get older the more people lose listen weird transition but if you go to sam tripling.com uh tonight tonight i'm gonna be at uh tonight and tomorrow i'm in la jolla at the world famous comedy store celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Comedy Store, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 1,000th episode of Tim Fall Hat in Austin, June 18th, then Miami, then Joke World in St. Petersburg for the Joke World Comedy Festival, then Lawrence, Kansas, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and then, oh, November 7th, I'm going to get those dates up too, I'm going to be at Truth or Gone in Dallas, and then Skank Fest for New Orleans, and then rounding out at the mothership. So busy, busy, busy. Go to SamTribblee.com. All this premium content with my amazing thumbnails, trying to put up three a week, two, three a week, so you get more bang for your buck. uh really deep deep dives i'm i decide i'm going to watch some of gordon white stuff on there you know just to break it down and learn together with my listeners and fans uh cash that he's

01:45:10 - 01:45:25 | Speaker 1:

talked about johnny yeah it's it's a podcast that we host we just did our worst episode ever uh congratulations to us um where we discuss retirement finance investing and preparing for your future.

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And we have a boomer who can't run and doesn't know how to work a computer. Does not know how to work a computer, but he is fucking amazing. And we love how we do it. Yeah, and he

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this week gave a big tip on how to get into the SpaceX. I could have

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gotten in that early. I should have done it. I should have done it and I didn't. And I'm a stupid

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person. Don't offer yourself. It's all right.

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01:47:05 - 01:47:11 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, Broken Sim is out there in the world. Check it out. Also, I'm on Twitter arguing with people all the time. Johnny Woodard on Twitter.

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Okay, go to World War Debate. Good news. Things are coming. we're about to announce a date and if you okay we're more debate thank you and then we're about to announce the debate and then finally at the end if you go to youtube.com slash sam triply there it is sam triply comedy oh you want the other one? I got you if you go check that out also check out our youtube channel please support us yeah you go there um i just put another 15 minute um it's right there right there's the truth opiate for the asses teach the children well dude those are the females that are your fucking show thumbnail i know the chicks were hot though dude they were hot go check it out the comments are all like this is fucking insanely funny so check that out uh back to back to mysticism is it uh Tracy Twyman? Yes, that's it. Tracy Twyman. Thank you, Johnny.

01:48:15 - 01:48:25 | Speaker 1:

Yes, she's an American author and researcher best known for writings on occult symbolism, secret societies, and alternative interpretations of history.

01:48:26 - 01:48:40 | Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, you start dabbling in that shit, it gets bad fast. Oh, shit. She had a video right before she died. Yeah, it gets very, very crazy. Mysticism, your guys' thoughts, Johnny? As a Christian, what do you think?

01:48:43 - 01:49:34 | Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm careful with it. I don't, you know. I mean, anything where you don't know the rules, it's a game where you don't know the rules, that worries me. Do you know what I mean? Like, what are the rules to that? Whose rules are you believing, right? Like, because there are some people who will tell you that anything you get is going to cost you something. uh i i do i i totally buy into what he's saying about like what was he saying like it's a opportunity multiplier or whatever like where you apply you gotta apply you gotta apply yourself apply to the job you know be positive mentally like those things are benign and and possibly beneficial uh so but anything where you're getting into magic and the occult and all makes you

01:49:34 - 01:49:59 | Speaker 2:

nervous yeah yeah again dude i was i'm on this this sam triply tp usa thread i mean these guys are going deep dude what do they think about this well they go deep like into basically the manipulation of judaism the manipulation of christianity with who founded islam you know like all this funny business

01:49:59 - 01:49:59 | Speaker 1:

So, yeah.

01:50:00 - 01:50:15 | Speaker 2:

And all of it. And, you know, and again, it gets into like dark arts and, you know, and child sacrifice and all that shit. And it's like really crazy. The best guy to listen to is everywhere now is Wes Huff.

01:50:15 - 01:50:45 | Speaker 1:

If you want to go back on the early Christian texts, nobody knows that shit better than him. Do you like him? Yeah, I do. He knows all the, I mean, he speaks and can read all, not, I'm sure he doesn't speak all of them. Johnny, you love readers, dude. Well, he can read the original scripts, you know? Like, he knows, and he's an expert in handling the old manuscripts and stuff. And I think it takes someone like that to kind of separate the bullshit from the real shit. So, anyway, I like that guy.

01:50:45 - 01:50:47 | Speaker 2:

What's your thoughts on Miss Sism?

01:50:47 - 01:51:10 | Speaker 3:

I mean, it sounds weird because, I mean, praying is kind of like making shit happen. And it happens. Yeah, when you do it, it happens. When you pray for something and you, I mean, you can't just pray for something and not actually try to do the act of doing it. So I guess it's part of praying and actually manifestation and actually going and do it. Like, you can't just pray to get a job and sit at your house and you're going to get a job. It's also praying and then going to go and doing the action.

01:51:11 - 01:51:16 | Speaker 2:

Johnny, do you pray? I do, yeah. Every morning and night? Do you go underneath?

01:51:16 - 01:51:34 | Speaker 1:

Not every morning and night. No. I mean, you know, the Bible even says that, you know, The famous faith, faith the size of a mustard seed, is enough to move a mountain if you have genuine faith. And I just think genuine faith, genuine belief is incredibly uncommon.

01:51:35 - 01:51:40 | Speaker 2:

I wish I would have asked Greg what he thought, where Jesus' role in the whole thing is.

01:51:41 - 01:51:42 | Speaker 1:

Yeah.

01:51:43 - 01:51:56 | Speaker 2:

Even I asked this very deep thread. Was Jesus, what's your thoughts on Jesus? Was he real? Yes. so even they are like jesus what's real so you know how you brought up that santa muerta thing

01:51:56 - 01:52:51 | Speaker 3:

some of my homies some of my homies actually practiced that yeah i know yeah and one of um one of the rules is for one of the big guys that practices is when he's on tour that candle can't go out he'll send some of his like his homies is like his workers to go and keep that thing lit they have to give it it's it's rum it's got this certain thing it doesn't look evil like i'm saying it's rum you have to give it rum it likes to drink rum that's what it's yeah i know it's you're getting demon shit face or yeah or entities yeah and you give it rum and you got to keep it keep the candle lit yeah and it does and it doesn't look evil because you would assume it's evil so i don't know if it's good magic it's still magic or whatever it is but it's still creepy because you have to keep it thing and i'm like well what if it turns off do you does your magic go away like what happens if that candle for some reason a big gust of wind comes up and and blows it out like what happens to you they got relighted that's why they're there

01:52:51 - 01:53:53 | Speaker 2:

that's just weird to know like that no it is weird and like yeah listen i i i bet i said this a lot to myself when i talked to myself my brother's like what are you doing right now i go nothing he goes are you talking to yourself i'm like yeah i'm your brother you don't know that yet i talk to myself more than i talk to anybody i talk to myself more than i talk to dana she's so pissed you talk to yourself more you talk to me that's great yeah um you know but i was i was thinking about this thing about how like you know it's it's that energy johnny that we always talk about right it's like it's like elvis energy you call hitler energy and either you got it or you don't you got it or you don't and if you don't got it there's nothing you can do to get it except for one thing and that's sell your soul literally and there's a comic out there i'm not gonna say the name but like went to supernova out of nowhere and it's like that's kind of crazy it's probably

01:53:53 - 01:54:07 | Speaker 1:

not who you think it is either johnny no i'm not trying to i'm just thinking of because i mean there are guys you've seen their early clips like in open mics and stuff and you would think they were going nowhere but it's like became just monster killers yeah but oh like theo vaughn

01:54:07 - 01:55:00 | Speaker 2:

sebastian mascalco both like when you watch them at first you're like there's nothing there and then they just exploded i'm not saying it's not them but you would say now that they certainly have that it thing right well i think they always had it it's just it took time to manifest you know it's like why is sebastian mascalco as big as he is well he's a great comic he's a great writer right but there's a lot of great comics and there's a lot of great writers who nobody's ever heard of and will never hear of because they just don't have the energy but sebastian looks like john goddy yeah like he's the most plug and play motherfucker you'll ever see and i'm not saying that in a bad way god bless him dude you know the notion that if i did everything that sebastian did i would be where sebastian is not true at all sebastian has that energy

01:55:00 - 01:55:50 | Speaker 6:

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Dude, I'm telling you, there's a guy around the corner from my house that has like four goats and a whole coop of chickens in a yard the size of yours.

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I want a bigger. I'm going to talk to Dana being like, we got by land.

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01:58:46 - 01:59:02 | Speaker 4:

It's just a farmer, Johnny. Whole family of bears across the street. A what? Yeah, a couple days ago. We're just right up here in Topanga. A bear? Bears, yeah. Dude, I've been seeing coyotes all over the valley lately. Oh, dude, two of them followed me home from the grocery store last night, or two nights ago.

01:59:02 - 01:59:04 | Speaker 6:

Oh, they were like, we can eat that ass.

01:59:05 - 01:59:46 | Speaker 4:

No, they don't really want to mess with people. I think some idiots feed them, so they're looking for food. You get these stupid ladies. i just want to say you know with respect to what you always talk about with hollywood we had that huge horror movie i was talking about obsession that was done by quite a young guy in his 20s uh that just did tiktoks and shit and now it sounds like this backrooms movie 20 20 year old director dude no yeah and they're saying it might be the first 100 million dollar movie from a 20 year old director isn't that crazy when does it come out uh soon i think at the end of this month Something like that. So it could be finally what you were saying, you know, where they finally just...

01:59:46 - 01:59:48 | Speaker 6:

Go outside the system?

01:59:48 - 01:59:52 | Speaker 4:

Well, let merit take over again or for the first time possible.

01:59:52 - 02:00:00 | Speaker 6:

You're always going to have rich kids being fucking shoehorned in. It's always going to happen. But maybe better rich kids. But you can't control the spouse.

02:00:00 - 02:00:55 | Speaker 3:

right like or the bottleneck you got to open it up if you want to make money you got to get back to a meritocracy and reach people you got to you can't you like and again it's not the money that they're upset about losing it's what the money means it's the reach yeah people money right johnny if a movie does well that means a lot of people went watched it exactly that's what they're worried about no they can't program you box office is a proxy for attention yes johnny yes yes johnny all right guys enjoy the highlights here's a clip from the latest broken sim he has a uh special dropping next week it's called short notice my good friend jason ellis there he is on the road too dude gigging never stop grinding

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yeah i'm just copying you dude trying to get there try to i don't even know where there is

02:01:02 - 02:01:22 | Speaker 3:

to be honest with you uh good if i get there i'll let you know i'll let you know where are you right now i'm in charlotte oh dude johnny's old stomping grounds nice is it yes yes drop woodard anywhere you want you'll get 10 off yeah i like it here yeah it's all right

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man it's all right it's uh it's uh they're trying to get they're trying to get things sorted out there what does that mean johnny well i mean it's uh it's a liberal city in a state that's more conservative and uh so there's that tension and you know i didn't see any gays i was on the street all day yeah not as much of that it's definitely not like la in that way so jason

02:01:42 - 02:01:49 | Speaker 3:

real quick before we get into anything um your special short notice what what day does it drop

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and where can they find it so i already did it and then uh my skateboard sponsor wants to sponsor it and then they want me to release it on rumble so now after just like accidentally doing a show short notice and then accidentally somebody had a really good camera and then accidentally i called my friend sam dribbling was like you should just make that a special and i was like i could do that and then my skateboard sponsor was like well we want to be a part of it and i was like yeah man that's cool i i i'm not in a hurry i just had it so it's no big deal and now they're like we're we're networking on a on an intro and i'm uh i don't think they realize that there's gonna come a point where they're gonna go so here's the idea and i'm gonna go yeah i don't really i'm not gonna

02:02:40 - 02:02:48 | Speaker 3:

do that you know like yeah it's my art dude let me do my art and it's already got weird because

02:02:48 - 02:03:17 | Speaker 2:

skateboarding because sam there's this thing where skateboarders like a lot of people are just like yeah i know you told a funny story one time about you know you when you're a skateboarder i'm like no this is i'm really this is what i do i don't really skateboard i i try to do comedy all the the time and skateboarders don't understand that it's weird they don't understand that that could be your whole life like it is when you're a skateboarder yeah i get that and it's also like

02:03:17 - 02:03:46 | Speaker 3:

trying to bring your demographic your people to comedy some people can do it some people can't i know guys who have huge shows and they can't get anyone to come see their show so that is a hard thing i you know the tim the conspiracy wherever i go to stand up every conspiracy theorist in that town shows up and it's usually about 100 people you know that's pretty good i'll take that man maybe i should talk about conspiracies more get into it dude get into it so you moved to utah

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are you enjoying it oh yeah i love it man yeah and i don't even have my own horse yet once i have my own horse going into the mountains i'm gonna camp out there with my horse and i'm gonna hunt with a compound bow. And then I'm going to have like coyote fur stuff and like hunt and live in the mountains and stuff and bring back meat to the wife and then like boner and stuff by the fire.

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It's a very Taylor Sheridan lifestyle. If you come over, I could like maybe barter some potatoes for like a sweatshirt or something.

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I love that, dude. That's the best life. That's the best all together. So you were in LA and now you're back. You're on the road. Do you miss LA at all?

02:06:48 - 02:07:16 | Speaker 5:

uh i missed like a couple of friends i miss being able to it's weird i miss my kids but i talked to my kids on the phone and when i was in la they were they're at this age where hey do you want to have a coffee they're like i'd love to dad but i'm studying or i'd love to dad but i'm at work or i'm actually out with my friends at a car show and i'm just like well everything you keep saying is way cooler than having coffee with me so you should probably just go so i get that that's why

02:07:16 - 02:07:33 | Speaker 6:

don't go on the road like uh who's just oh big jay last night was like every weekend he's on the road and i'm like that sounds great but also my kids are at that age where they're fun so i'm just gonna enjoy them until they call me dicks yeah because there'll be a day where they're like

02:07:33 - 02:07:56 | Speaker 5:

maybe not even like i think my kids love me they're just like i'd love to dad but you you kind of suck as you mean like to hang out with you're you're pretty gay i mean like you just sort of like hang out and talk about like how are you like i don't want to hear about how am i i just want to know like what's lit or like who sucks or like i'm not i'm not a part of it dude i cannot

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be a part of it well i i i am not good at showing affection dana still fights that war after 23 years she still gets mad at me when i don't show affection i'm like i show affection by paying every for everything that's how i show fucking i literally i was in a therapy session with the baby's mama back in the day when i was trying to make it work and the the therapist is like that's how he shows affection he pays for everything that's how he outside of that i am i am emotionally bankrupt i'm not i'm not gonna cry i'm not gonna you look like you're a little bit more affectionate than i am i see you taking pictures and like i'm never that guy i'm just not i'm just a caveman knuckle dragger yeah i must be the gay in me or something but

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i like i like i tell my kids i love them and stuff oh i tell my kids i love them that's because i

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like you got to you always hear my dad never told me he loved me i'm like okay i remember yeah okay

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well then fucking whatever it's not that big i don't know what i don't go i mean i don't want to embarrass my son like he's 17 so it's just like what's up you know what i mean like if i text him i'm like i love you dude he's like love your dad but that you know you don't want him to get over over excited about it in public around his homies that's not cool oh i can't wait to embarrass my daughters okay yeah that happened too but now that now she's like really doing well so i really can't help it it's not even there anymore every time i see her i just go wow you know like you're just amazing and you're doing all this amazing stuff and uh i'm i'm like i don't know did i are you sure your mind you know because you're just yeah

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i've learned about kids if you keep them away from trauma they're on their path in life that is to keep them away from trauma get them to their 18 years old when they're they become themselves they become themselves very early

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like yeah i was telling my i was trying to do a joke but people take it too serious but it makes me laugh like one day i took away my daughter's ipad and she's like she's only like five or six at the time she's six now but it was i think she was five at the time and she's i took her pat she goes you son of a bitch and i yeah that was my reaction i'm like you're lucky that's the cutest thing i've ever seen in my fucking life any other time in history you get thrown across the room but you are too cute oh my dad chucked me man one time i didn't just grab me and threw me across the room you can't hit them they're too cute oh wow yeah yeah i agree you can't hit your kids sam i know i'm making a very political statements here right if you'd like to hear

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