about probably so dr heather lynn i know you've had her on as well she is great she is great so my last interview with her she framed the secret societies as the brotherhoods of sacred math and I thought that was so great because she's basically talking about the spirit communication they had, like I said they were given these equations, but part of the equation is how to control massive amounts of people by creating bottlenecks and extracting value, and then they take this template and apply it to all kinds of things, taxes food supplies they always, they're the middleman who takes the excess, she goes deep into entropy, but so this is one component of it. The other side of it is Bob Grineer who is a fusion researcher. If people remember Pons and Fleissman, they were two scientists who said they cracked cold fusion in the 90s. They had a huge press conference. It was a big thing. And then of course the whole system shit on them and said you did not crack free energy. You're just quacks. One guy died and the other guy retired and never to be seen again. That's how it works. Many people have cracked free energy over the years. And this is what happens. But Bob Grenier gave a presentation and I have a, I have a screenshot of it, but he, in his presentation, he said, you know, my dad and my grandfather were both Freemasons. He's like, I'm not, I'm just a free energy researcher. When I was a kid, my dad woke me out of bed and told me to come outside. And he said, look at that part of the sky and a UFO flew over. And then he put me back in bed. Uh, he said, another thing that happened is when his grandfather or father i i can't recall when they died he got all their freemasonic regalia so he has all these metals these very complex geometric metals you know we've seen freemasonic stuff the florida lee symbol uh the jerusalem cross the double-headed eagle he's got all these metals and he looked at these metals for the 33rd degree and the 32nd degree level of freemasonry And he said, oh, my God, the exact patterns I see in the lab on my free energy work are these patterns on these metals. And it's like, yes, they've always known. They've always known nature is abundant. Energy is everywhere. And the only way they can rule us is to make us believe that it's not true. Scarce. They have to make us think everything is scarce. And it's not. It's not. Look at the history of people who have cracked free energy. Look at the guy who found how to make engines run on water. Another guy, no, he got engines to run 200 miles to the gallon. He could convert any engine to run 200 miles to the gallon. Somebody broke into his shop, trashed everything, and destroyed his work, and you never hear from him again. This happens. Dozens and dozens of people have gone down this way because nature is abundant, because we are God. This is a playground to experience reality. And it's not, it is the Garden of Eden.